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table help

Starner, alicia M. <astarner@...>
 

Hello All,

i ausing JAWS 15 and Microsoft Word 2007 and have a question related to
removing the lines in a table. I have a document created in a 2 column
table, but I don't want the lines to show on the final document. how do I
use the keyboard and JAWS to remove these lines. The only directions I can
find related to doing it with a mouse.

Thanks,

alicia


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom Behler
 

Bobby:

Well, the latest development here is that I believe I have convinced my
University to keep me on Office 2010 at least for the time being.

The hope is that if we give things some time, maybe some of the bugs will be
worked out with Jaws and Office 2013 so that it will be less likely that we
will have problems.

I'll obviously keep monitoring this situation with interest in the coming
months.

If things change again, I'll let everyone know.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harris, Robert
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Dr. Tom

The Office Web Apps of MS365 will not be an affective tool no matter what
version of JAWS you use nor will Shared Documents and/or Cloud Apps.

They have an IM sort of built in that is not user friendly for a totally
blind user; a little vision would go along way. This IM also has color
icons here that display on everyones desktop you work around. I was not
comfortable with that and shut the IM off.

Ben through this with FS a while ago.

2013 works OK but we are having some trouble with address book issues.
Addresses you use regular seem to show up in contacts but not regular
emails. Crashes and Cursor Wanderings are as prevalent in 2013 as any
others including Lotus Notes.

Bobby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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what are the best English, French and Spanish vocalizer voices

Guy Castonguay
 

Hi Zdenek,
To get an accurate recommendation, you must specify the country as this may influence greatly pronunciations.
Keep in mind that your hearing ability may also play a part in the preferences as well.
Some people prefer female voices as the pitch is higher or maybe because it reminds them of their mom calling them for lunch,...(smile)
Being in Canada, I can give you the following recommendations.
(U S English) Samantha
(Canadian French) Julie
((Mexican Spanish) Javier

If I were in Europe, my recommendations would go as follows.
(Australian English) Karen
(French France)Virginie
(Castilian Spanish) Diego

Regards
Guy Castonguay
Ottawa, Canada

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Re: Laptop purchasing advice

Charles Coe
 

Hi,
Hi,

Go to www.cnet.com or pcmagazine.com for advice or a equivalent site. You
will probably have to find a retailer who sells a lap top with Win 7 since
most off the shelf computers will have Win 8.1 on it.
As far as the software you wish to have installed that is a matter of what
you prefer or need to have for work, for instance.


Hope this will be of help in making a purchase.

Charles

----Original Message-----
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Nastoff
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Laptop purchasing advice

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very few
issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am going back
to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all of the resources
I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites are kind of vague about
the system requirements needed for JAWS, especially with regard to processor
speed. I am not a tech expert, so all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five
years ago, I worked with DVR who purchased my laptop through a vendor, but
this time since I have some money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun
to pick out my own laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be.
So I am wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell, Lenovo
HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your opinion, and
exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Tutorial for Track Changes

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hello Everyone,

I'd be very grateful if anyone here could share the link to any
podcast which pertains to track changes.
I am unable to use track changes effectively.
Any help would be immensely appreciated.

Best,
Rahul


Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:44 AM, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know what photo story is, but the powerpoints I need to access often
Yu cn read powerpoint as a ptf, jus save it as a ptf by changing th file typecome from others, not myself.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Use photo story

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Mario:

Well, in my current teaching job, I'm not sure how much I'll actually
need to use powerpoints, so don't know if I can justify myself or my
University purchasing any tutorials, but will certainly keep this in
mind if the need is greater than I think it will be.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario
Brusco
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

FS has tutorials you can purchase for Powerpoint 2010. ATI has
tutorials for 2013you can purchase, but not sure about 2010.
If you're looking for free tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 04, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010


Hi.



Does anyone have a link to an easy-to-understand tutorial for
Powerpoint 2010?



I have some older tutorials here, but since I now have Powerpoint 2010
both at home and at work, I'm not sure whether they would be useful.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Laptop purchasing advice

 

Hello,
First, it'll depend on tasks you'll be doing with your laptop. But the most
important thing is not just brands, but the components does matter.
I'd recommend the following configurations:
* Brand: Asus, HP, Toshiba, Samsung.
* Processor: Intel Core I3 or I5 or AMD equivalent.
* RAM: At least 8 GB.
* Hard disk size: At least 750 GB or 128 GB SSD.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Allison
Nastoff
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Laptop purchasing advice

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very few
issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am going back
to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all of the resources
I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites are kind of vague about
the system requirements needed for JAWS, especially with regard to processor
speed. I am not a tech expert, so all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five
years ago, I worked with DVR who purchased my laptop through a vendor, but
this time since I have some money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun
to pick out my own laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be.
So I am wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell, Lenovo
HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your opinion, and
exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Laptop purchasing advice

Allison Nastoff
 

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very
few issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am
going back to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all
of the resources I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites
are kind of vague about the system requirements needed for JAWS,
especially with regard to processor speed. I am not a tech expert, so
all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five years ago, I worked with DVR who
purchased my laptop through a vendor, but this time since I have some
money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun to pick out my own
laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be. So I am
wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell,
Lenovo HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your
opinion, and exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Harris, Robert <harris.robert@...>
 

Dr. Tom

The Office Web Apps of MS365 will not be an affective tool no matter what version of JAWS you use nor will Shared Documents and/or Cloud Apps.

They have an IM sort of built in that is not user friendly for a totally blind user; a little vision would go along way. This IM also has color icons here that display on everyones desktop you work around. I was not comfortable with that and shut the IM off.

Ben through this with FS a while ago.

2013 works OK but we are having some trouble with address book issues. Addresses you use regular seem to show up in contacts but not regular emails. Crashes and Cursor Wanderings are as prevalent in 2013 as any others including Lotus Notes.

Bobby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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firefox extended support release

Doris and Chris
 


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Jean <jemenzies@...>
 

So, what is Document Object Mode and why should it be disabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom,

As embarrassing as it might be to say, Until joining this list, I never knew
what "Document Object Mode" was. I, to this day, have done nothing with
this, and I have used Office 2013 with Windows 7, 8, and now 8.1. When I
need to write a document, I open the application, open a blank document,
format it the way that I want it, and write away. I have never had a problem
with it. And, what ever you say, do not say "Ignorance is Bliss." Ha Ha Ha.

Truly though, Tom, I hope that you get it figured out. I write about the
things that I know about on this list, and like all of us, I ask questions
when I need to know how to do something.
Mike

If your eyes cannot see, then your mind's eye is your window to the world.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Mike:

This is encouraging.

My one question, though, is whether you had to do something to disable
"document object mode".

I have heard that if "document object mode" is enabled, a number of Jaws
functions won't work properly with Office 2013.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I am running JAWS 14 and Office 2013, and like it very well. I also ren the
two with Windows 7 for quite some time, and it worked well. I had the Office
365 for a short while, just the trial period, and the desktop applications
are the same as 2013, but I did not care for the cloud applications though.
The only thing I do not like about Office 2013 is that there are no drop
down menus, and the ribbons are harder to navigate to find the particular
item you are looking for.

Mike
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's
and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013
within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the
Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and
I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Michael and Tom,
I do not know what Document Object Mode is, but it was my impression from the webinars that it is disabled in MS Word 2013, and that it is enabled in 2010.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom,

As embarrassing as it might be to say, Until joining this list, I never knew
what "Document Object Mode" was. I, to this day, have done nothing with
this, and I have used Office 2013 with Windows 7, 8, and now 8.1. When I
need to write a document, I open the application, open a blank document,
format it the way that I want it, and write away. I have never had a problem
with it. And, what ever you say, do not say "Ignorance is Bliss." Ha Ha Ha.

Truly though, Tom, I hope that you get it figured out. I write about the
things that I know about on this list, and like all of us, I ask questions
when I need to know how to do something.
Mike

If your eyes cannot see, then your mind's eye is your window to the world.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Mike:

This is encouraging.

My one question, though, is whether you had to do something to disable
"document object mode".

I have heard that if "document object mode" is enabled, a number of Jaws
functions won't work properly with Office 2013.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I am running JAWS 14 and Office 2013, and like it very well. I also ren the
two with Windows 7 for quite some time, and it worked well. I had the Office
365 for a short while, just the trial period, and the desktop applications
are the same as 2013, but I did not care for the cloud applications though.
The only thing I do not like about Office 2013 is that there are no drop
down menus, and the ribbons are harder to navigate to find the particular
item you are looking for.

Mike
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's
and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013
within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the
Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and
I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's good to know. I will be going to Windows 7 Pro at home in a few days, and wondered whether to break open my factory-fresh 15, or stay with 14. I could field test it here at the office, but don't usually do that. The workload around here doesn't lend itself to experimentation, so I always use my home setup as a test bed.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom, I made the leap from JAWS 10 to JAWS 15, so I can't speak to JAWS 14. But I am currently running JAWS 15 with Windows 7 Pro, and I'm having no major issues. One change is that if you're on a website, pressing R no longer takes you to the next Radio Button--you have to use the letter A now. Again, I can't compare it with JAWS 14, but in a Windows 7 environment, I'm having no issues.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 3:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Tom,

As embarrassing as it might be to say, Until joining this list, I never knew what "Document Object Mode" was. I, to this day, have done nothing with this, and I have used Office 2013 with Windows 7, 8, and now 8.1. When I need to write a document, I open the application, open a blank document, format it the way that I want it, and write away. I have never had a problem with it. And, what ever you say, do not say "Ignorance is Bliss." Ha Ha Ha.

Truly though, Tom, I hope that you get it figured out. I write about the things that I know about on this list, and like all of us, I ask questions when I need to know how to do something.
Mike

If your eyes cannot see, then your mind's eye is your window to the world.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Mike:

This is encouraging.

My one question, though, is whether you had to do something to disable
"document object mode".

I have heard that if "document object mode" is enabled, a number of Jaws
functions won't work properly with Office 2013.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I am running JAWS 14 and Office 2013, and like it very well. I also ren the
two with Windows 7 for quite some time, and it worked well. I had the Office
365 for a short while, just the trial period, and the desktop applications
are the same as 2013, but I did not care for the cloud applications though.
The only thing I do not like about Office 2013 is that there are no drop
down menus, and the ribbons are harder to navigate to find the particular
item you are looking for.

Mike
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's
and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013
within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the
Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and
I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: what are the best english, french and spanish vocalizer voices

Michael Boyd <mikeboyd61@...>
 

Hi,

My vote goes to the U S English voice, Samantha Premium High. She's got style, she's got beauty, and she's got pinache. l o l...

Mike

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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:08 AM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: what are the best english, french and spanish vocalizer voices

Hello listers:

which voices are the best in terms of accuracy. I am looking for suggestions
about all english voices, all french and all spanish voices.

Many thanks.

Zdenek



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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Brad Martin
 

Tom,

I should've been more specific. I was addressing your concern that JAWS 15 might be built more for Windows 8 than Windows 7. I haven't yet touched Office 2013. This computer came with Office 2010 Starter, which doesn't work with JAWS at all. For the reasons why, Google "click to run" "office" "JAWS" and you'll read more than you want to. But I'm no help with Office 13. Sorry for the confusion.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 8:41 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Thanks,Brad. This is helpful.

Can you tell me what applications you mainly use in Office 2013?

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom, I made the leap from JAWS 10 to JAWS 15, so I can't speak to JAWS 14.
But I am currently running JAWS 15 with Windows 7 Pro, and I'm having no
major issues. One change is that if you're on a website, pressing R no
longer takes you to the next Radio Button--you have to use the letter A now.
Again, I can't compare it with JAWS 14, but in a Windows 7 environment, I'm
having no issues.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 3:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom Behler
 

Thanks,Brad. This is helpful.

Can you tell me what applications you mainly use in Office 2013?

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom, I made the leap from JAWS 10 to JAWS 15, so I can't speak to JAWS 14.
But I am currently running JAWS 15 with Windows 7 Pro, and I'm having no
major issues. One change is that if you're on a website, pressing R no
longer takes you to the next Radio Button--you have to use the letter A now.
Again, I can't compare it with JAWS 14, but in a Windows 7 environment, I'm
having no issues.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 3:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Brad Martin
 

Tom, I made the leap from JAWS 10 to JAWS 15, so I can't speak to JAWS 14. But I am currently running JAWS 15 with Windows 7 Pro, and I'm having no major issues. One change is that if you're on a website, pressing R no longer takes you to the next Radio Button--you have to use the letter A now. Again, I can't compare it with JAWS 14, but in a Windows 7 environment, I'm having no issues.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 3:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom Behler
 

Thank you, Kevin.

I'll definitely take a look at the webinars, since they may help with how I
present possibilities to the University.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hello Tom,
The paid webinars are on the FS website, I think I paid $29.00 for three one
and a half hour lessons regarding MS Word 2010, and this entitles me to the
subsequent webinars on the same subject, such as MS Word 2013. I started
Jaws in the spring of 2012, and as a new comer I found the webinars very
helpful.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Kevin:

What you are saying is what I was afraid of.

Can you tell me where to find Dan's webinar?

It might be worth asking the University to buy it, just so we can assess the
true practicality of my switching to Office 2013 right now.

Perhaps we can make the switch to MS365. And still have me stay with Office
2010, at least for the time being.



Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 1:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hello Tom,
I purchased the paid webinar for MS Word 2010, which I have, and received
access to MS Word 2013, in the bargain. I just listened to the 2013 version
long enough to decide I should stick with 2010. If memory serves Dan
provided work arounds where he could, and offered the suggestion that some
fixes may be coming in the future. This was in the spring of 2013.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Kevin:

Do you know how to remove the "document object" mode in office 2013, or how
to get to Dan's webinar to obtain the needed instructions for doing so?

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan




-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hello Tom,
I am using Jaws 14, Windows 7, and Office 2010, and in the paid webinar for
MS Word 2013, Dan Clark makes reference to the removal of the Document
Object Mode, which appears to prevent Jaws from performing certain tasks it
does perform in MS 2010.
Cheers Kevin Hourigan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013 within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: opening a link in outlook 2013

Dave...
 

When your cursor is on the link, press the Enter key. Spacebar may not work.
Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician, and
woodworker.
dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net

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Subject: opening a link in outlook 2013


I hav an e-bulletin I receive from my church every week. I am trying to open
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Sincerely,



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Women: Fruit of the Spirit

Men: The Teachings of Jesus

Spanish: Hechos (Acts)



Youth Church: Children and students of all ages worship together

The Book of Daniel, History Flowing Toward an End, led by Tom Robinson



Beginning in January: The Book of Exodus



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Community of Hope Gift Boxes

We are expecting 200 guests for our Community of Hope Christmas Celebration
this Saturday so we need 200 gift boxes!



The gift boxes are an EASY way for our congregation to help our Community of
Hope ministry. And there are a lot of ways YOU can help with the gift
boxes. Read the options below and see what you can do.

* Bring your boxes! If you took a box and are filling it up, please
bring it to the church office by Thursday at 5pm

* Fund a box! Every box costs about $25. Click this
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LINK to contribute money so that the items can be purchased and the boxes
can be filled.

* Buy the gifts and deliver them to the church by 5pm on Thursday. If
you bring the supplies, other volunteers will put them into the boxes and
wrap them.
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to see the list of gifts included in each box.

* Come to the wrapping party at 6pm on Thursday evening! All hands on
deck! Please <mailto:carl@manhattanchurch.org> let Carl know you're coming.




Community of Hope Events this Saturday

Our Community of Hope ministry is has two events this Saturday.



The FIRST event is at our building from 9am - 2pm. For this event we
need...

* 4 people to help with clean-up (2:30pm)
* 5 people to greet people in the lobby and auditorium (8am - 11pm)
* 5 people to greet people in the lobby and auditorium (11am - 2pm)



The SECOND event is at the Park Avenue Church (82nd and Park). For this
event we need...

* 4 people to help give out bag lunches to guests (1:15-3:30)

Please <mailto:carl@manhattanchurch.org> contact Carl to help.



Christmas Pageant Rehearsal

This Sunday the children will rehearse for the Christmas Pageant immediately
following the service. Pizza will be provided for lunch (if your child
cannot eat pizza please bring a lunch). Please
<mailto:jason@manhattanchurch.org> contact Jason with questions.



Save the Date

Photo Sunday: December 15th

Community of Hope Christmas meal: December 14

Pageant and Choral Concert: December 21

Christmas Eve Service: December 24

Community of Hope Sunday: January 19

MLK Meal and Reflection: January 20

Women's Retreat: January 31 - February 2

Giver of Dreams mission trip to Honduras: February 15-19

Marriage Seminar: March 15-16






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John Rainbow is the hospital waiting to be taken to a temporary rehab
facility in the city. He would love visitors. He is at Lenox Hill , room
425, phone is 646-785-8450. Please <mailto:carl@manhattanchurch.org>
Contact Carl for more information.




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