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Re: JAWS 13 on a Thumb drive Question

Dave Durber
 

I wish people, would not call a computer a "CPU". A computer is not, a CPU and vice versa. It is one of those Americanisms, which are, as usual, completely inaccurate and, therefore, definitely wrong.

For those of you who do not know, the achronym, CPU, stands for Central Processor Unit. It is the brain of your computer. It is a chip, which plugs into a socket on the motherboard.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: JAWS 13 on a Thumb drive Question


Good morning,



I'm using JAWS 13 and would like to know how to put JAWS on a thumb drive.



I would just like to place it into the correct slot then turn on the CPU and
it'll come up spitting out the desktop icons. Thank you,



Have a great day,



Paul Bolduc



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Microsoft word 2007 and read only

John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
 

Hi: I'm encountering a strange problem in preparing legal documents using
word 2007. Some of my documents are being saved as read only and I don't
understand why. I am using Google cloud and sometimes take motions from
Google drive and alter them and save them with a new name.
How can I check to assure that the document is not read only? Secondly, have
any of you have this experience when using Google drive? I ask that simply
because this may be the source of my problem.
Thanks for any help. John


Re: Laptop purchasing advice

Feliciano G
 

I am very happy with Dell laptops. I currently own a delve Austro 3560. It is Windows 7 64-bit and has the thumb them identification. The laptop feels solid keys are great and everything else. You can always upgrade RAM so that is not really something to worry about. These modern laptops are solidly built as far as hardware now a days A important thing to look at is whether you want a number pad or not. My laptop does not have a number pad and I love it. If you have any questions. You can email me off the list.

Sent from the Super-iPhone

On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Deddajay <deddajay@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Having just set up laptops for 2 friends, we went to a business supplier rather than somewhere selling consumer laptops.

This had the advantage of being able to get rock solid laptop without all the consumer crap usually installed by the manufacturer. In our case we went for Dell business machines which originally came with Windows 8, but because they have a licence to revert to Windows 7, it was easy to migrate over to this. In fact the supplier did this for us.

We were then left with a plain, vanilla version of Windows 7 Home so that we could install the software of our choice without having to go through the hassle of uninstalling all the trial software that usually comes with a consumer machine. As it is getting increasingly difficult to buy a new machine with Windows 7 on it these day, a business supplier may be your answer. The main thing to consider is as much ram as you can afford, a minimum of 4gig, preferably 6 or 8. Processor speed is not that important unless you want a lot of intensive applications running at the same time.

The Dell Inspiron laptops are solidly built, with good, well spaced keyboards with number pads and accessible usb ports. The only downside is that there is no application key, but shift F10 will do the same thing.

Hope this might help.

Cheers
Deddajay



On 13/12/2013 06:08, Allison Nastoff wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very
few issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am
going back to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all
of the resources I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites
are kind of vague about the system requirements needed for JAWS,
especially with regard to processor speed. I am not a tech expert, so
all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five years ago, I worked with DVR who
purchased my laptop through a vendor, but this time since I have some
money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun to pick out my own
laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be. So I am
wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell,
Lenovo HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your
opinion, and exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Re: Laptop purchasing advice

Deddajay <deddajay@...>
 

Having just set up laptops for 2 friends, we went to a business supplier rather than somewhere selling consumer laptops.

This had the advantage of being able to get rock solid laptop without all the consumer crap usually installed by the manufacturer. In our case we went for Dell business machines which originally came with Windows 8, but because they have a licence to revert to Windows 7, it was easy to migrate over to this. In fact the supplier did this for us.

We were then left with a plain, vanilla version of Windows 7 Home so that we could install the software of our choice without having to go through the hassle of uninstalling all the trial software that usually comes with a consumer machine. As it is getting increasingly difficult to buy a new machine with Windows 7 on it these day, a business supplier may be your answer. The main thing to consider is as much ram as you can afford, a minimum of 4gig, preferably 6 or 8. Processor speed is not that important unless you want a lot of intensive applications running at the same time.

The Dell Inspiron laptops are solidly built, with good, well spaced keyboards with number pads and accessible usb ports. The only downside is that there is no application key, but shift F10 will do the same thing.

Hope this might help.

Cheers
Deddajay



On 13/12/2013 06:08, Allison Nastoff wrote:
Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very
few issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am
going back to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all
of the resources I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites
are kind of vague about the system requirements needed for JAWS,
especially with regard to processor speed. I am not a tech expert, so
all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five years ago, I worked with DVR who
purchased my laptop through a vendor, but this time since I have some
money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun to pick out my own
laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be. So I am
wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell,
Lenovo HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your
opinion, and exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Re: table help

Allen Stutts <astutts@...>
 

I've never had to do this before, but I suggest trying this.

Go inside your table and right click.
Arrow down to Borders and Shading and hit Enter.
There is a tab called Borders.
Tab down once in this tab and arrow to None if it is not already selected.
Tab to Okay and hit Enter.

This is in Word 2010, but it might be the same in 2007. Good luck.

Allen

-----Original Message-----
From: "Starner, alicia M." <astarner@charter.net>
Sent: Dec 13, 2013 8:43 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: table help

Hello All,

i using JAWS 15 and Microsoft Word 2007 and have a question related to
removing the lines in a table. I have a document created in a 2 column
table, but I don't want the lines to show on the final document. how do I
use the keyboard and JAWS to remove these lines. The only directions I can
find related to doing it with a mouse.

Thanks,

alicia


JAWS 13 on a Thumb drive Question

Paul Bolduc
 

Good morning,



I'm using JAWS 13 and would like to know how to put JAWS on a thumb drive.



I would just like to place it into the correct slot then turn on the CPU and
it'll come up spitting out the desktop icons. Thank you,



Have a great day,



Paul Bolduc



Amateur Radio Operator: WR1X also M0CHG

Email: <mailto:WR1X@ARRL.net> WR1X@ARRL.net

Alternate Email: <mailto:pcbolduc@verizon.net> pcbolduc@verizon.net



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world.

Royalston is located in North Central Massachusetts

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Re: what are the best English, French and Spanish vocalizer voices

Zdeněk Vopat <vopat@...>
 

merci beaucoup monsieur. Qu'est-ce que vous faites pour le governament du
Canada?
Salut
Zdenek

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
guy.castonguay@parl.gc.ca
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 2:22 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: what are the best English, French and Spanish vocalizer voices

Hi Zdenek,
To get an accurate recommendation, you must specify the country as this may
influence greatly pronunciations.
Keep in mind that your hearing ability may also play a part in the
preferences as well.
Some people prefer female voices as the pitch is higher or maybe because it
reminds them of their mom calling them for lunch,...(smile)
Being in Canada, I can give you the following recommendations.
(U S English) Samantha
(Canadian French) Julie
((Mexican Spanish) Javier

If I were in Europe, my recommendations would go as follows.
(Australian English) Karen
(French France)Virginie
(Castilian Spanish) Diego

Regards
Guy Castonguay
Ottawa, Canada

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table help

Starner, alicia M. <astarner@...>
 

Hello All,

i ausing JAWS 15 and Microsoft Word 2007 and have a question related to
removing the lines in a table. I have a document created in a 2 column
table, but I don't want the lines to show on the final document. how do I
use the keyboard and JAWS to remove these lines. The only directions I can
find related to doing it with a mouse.

Thanks,

alicia


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom Behler
 

Bobby:

Well, the latest development here is that I believe I have convinced my
University to keep me on Office 2010 at least for the time being.

The hope is that if we give things some time, maybe some of the bugs will be
worked out with Jaws and Office 2013 so that it will be less likely that we
will have problems.

I'll obviously keep monitoring this situation with interest in the coming
months.

If things change again, I'll let everyone know.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harris, Robert
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Dr. Tom

The Office Web Apps of MS365 will not be an affective tool no matter what
version of JAWS you use nor will Shared Documents and/or Cloud Apps.

They have an IM sort of built in that is not user friendly for a totally
blind user; a little vision would go along way. This IM also has color
icons here that display on everyones desktop you work around. I was not
comfortable with that and shut the IM off.

Ben through this with FS a while ago.

2013 works OK but we are having some trouble with address book issues.
Addresses you use regular seem to show up in contacts but not regular
emails. Crashes and Cursor Wanderings are as prevalent in 2013 as any
others including Lotus Notes.

Bobby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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what are the best English, French and Spanish vocalizer voices

Guy Castonguay
 

Hi Zdenek,
To get an accurate recommendation, you must specify the country as this may influence greatly pronunciations.
Keep in mind that your hearing ability may also play a part in the preferences as well.
Some people prefer female voices as the pitch is higher or maybe because it reminds them of their mom calling them for lunch,...(smile)
Being in Canada, I can give you the following recommendations.
(U S English) Samantha
(Canadian French) Julie
((Mexican Spanish) Javier

If I were in Europe, my recommendations would go as follows.
(Australian English) Karen
(French France)Virginie
(Castilian Spanish) Diego

Regards
Guy Castonguay
Ottawa, Canada

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Re: Laptop purchasing advice

Charles Coe
 

Hi,
Hi,

Go to www.cnet.com or pcmagazine.com for advice or a equivalent site. You
will probably have to find a retailer who sells a lap top with Win 7 since
most off the shelf computers will have Win 8.1 on it.
As far as the software you wish to have installed that is a matter of what
you prefer or need to have for work, for instance.


Hope this will be of help in making a purchase.

Charles

----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Allison
Nastoff
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Laptop purchasing advice

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very few
issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am going back
to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all of the resources
I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites are kind of vague about
the system requirements needed for JAWS, especially with regard to processor
speed. I am not a tech expert, so all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five
years ago, I worked with DVR who purchased my laptop through a vendor, but
this time since I have some money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun
to pick out my own laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be.
So I am wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell, Lenovo
HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your opinion, and
exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Tutorial for Track Changes

Rahul Bajaj
 

Hello Everyone,

I'd be very grateful if anyone here could share the link to any
podcast which pertains to track changes.
I am unable to use track changes effectively.
Any help would be immensely appreciated.

Best,
Rahul


Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:44 AM, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know what photo story is, but the powerpoints I need to access often
Yu cn read powerpoint as a ptf, jus save it as a ptf by changing th file typecome from others, not myself.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Chan
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 11:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

Use photo story

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2013, at 3:38 PM, "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com> wrote:

Mario:

Well, in my current teaching job, I'm not sure how much I'll actually
need to use powerpoints, so don't know if I can justify myself or my
University purchasing any tutorials, but will certainly keep this in
mind if the need is greater than I think it will be.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario
Brusco
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010

FS has tutorials you can purchase for Powerpoint 2010. ATI has
tutorials for 2013you can purchase, but not sure about 2010.
If you're looking for free tutorials, I'm not sure what's out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: December 04, 2013 1:17 PM
Subject: Tutorials for Powerpoint 2010


Hi.



Does anyone have a link to an easy-to-understand tutorial for
Powerpoint 2010?



I have some older tutorials here, but since I now have Powerpoint 2010
both at home and at work, I'm not sure whether they would be useful.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Laptop purchasing advice

 

Hello,
First, it'll depend on tasks you'll be doing with your laptop. But the most
important thing is not just brands, but the components does matter.
I'd recommend the following configurations:
* Brand: Asus, HP, Toshiba, Samsung.
* Processor: Intel Core I3 or I5 or AMD equivalent.
* RAM: At least 8 GB.
* Hard disk size: At least 750 GB or 128 GB SSD.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Allison
Nastoff
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Laptop purchasing advice

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very few
issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am going back
to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all of the resources
I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites are kind of vague about
the system requirements needed for JAWS, especially with regard to processor
speed. I am not a tech expert, so all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five
years ago, I worked with DVR who purchased my laptop through a vendor, but
this time since I have some money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun
to pick out my own laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be.
So I am wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell, Lenovo
HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your opinion, and
exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff

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Laptop purchasing advice

Allison Nastoff
 

Hello everyone,
I have been using JAWS with windows XP for 5 years and have had very
few issues. But since support for windows xp is ending soon and I am
going back to school, I am looking to buy a Windows 7 laptop. But all
of the resources I have read on freedomscientific.com and other sites
are kind of vague about the system requirements needed for JAWS,
especially with regard to processor speed. I am not a tech expert, so
all of the jargon overwhelms me. Five years ago, I worked with DVR who
purchased my laptop through a vendor, but this time since I have some
money from a temp job, I thought it would be fun to pick out my own
laptop. Little did I know how overwhelming this would be. So I am
wondering if anyone who uses a windows 7 laptop and is happy with it
could give me specific recommendations on exactly which brands (Dell,
Lenovo HP etc) you have found to be the most blind-friendly in your
opinion, and exactly what specifications you have found to work best.
Thank you so much in advance for any input you can offer.
Allison Nastoff


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Harris, Robert <harris.robert@...>
 

Dr. Tom

The Office Web Apps of MS365 will not be an affective tool no matter what version of JAWS you use nor will Shared Documents and/or Cloud Apps.

They have an IM sort of built in that is not user friendly for a totally blind user; a little vision would go along way. This IM also has color icons here that display on everyones desktop you work around. I was not comfortable with that and shut the IM off.

Ben through this with FS a while ago.

2013 works OK but we are having some trouble with address book issues. Addresses you use regular seem to show up in contacts but not regular emails. Crashes and Cursor Wanderings are as prevalent in 2013 as any others including Lotus Notes.

Bobby and Prince

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 3:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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firefox extended support release

Doris and Chris
 


Re: Jaws and office 2013

Jean <jemenzies@...>
 

So, what is Document Object Mode and why should it be disabled?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom,

As embarrassing as it might be to say, Until joining this list, I never knew
what "Document Object Mode" was. I, to this day, have done nothing with
this, and I have used Office 2013 with Windows 7, 8, and now 8.1. When I
need to write a document, I open the application, open a blank document,
format it the way that I want it, and write away. I have never had a problem
with it. And, what ever you say, do not say "Ignorance is Bliss." Ha Ha Ha.

Truly though, Tom, I hope that you get it figured out. I write about the
things that I know about on this list, and like all of us, I ask questions
when I need to know how to do something.
Mike

If your eyes cannot see, then your mind's eye is your window to the world.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Mike:

This is encouraging.

My one question, though, is whether you had to do something to disable
"document object mode".

I have heard that if "document object mode" is enabled, a number of Jaws
functions won't work properly with Office 2013.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I am running JAWS 14 and Office 2013, and like it very well. I also ren the
two with Windows 7 for quite some time, and it worked well. I had the Office
365 for a short while, just the trial period, and the desktop applications
are the same as 2013, but I did not care for the cloud applications though.
The only thing I do not like about Office 2013 is that there are no drop
down menus, and the ribbons are harder to navigate to find the particular
item you are looking for.

Mike
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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's
and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013
within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the
Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and
I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Michael and Tom,
I do not know what Document Object Mode is, but it was my impression from the webinars that it is disabled in MS Word 2013, and that it is enabled in 2010.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom,

As embarrassing as it might be to say, Until joining this list, I never knew
what "Document Object Mode" was. I, to this day, have done nothing with
this, and I have used Office 2013 with Windows 7, 8, and now 8.1. When I
need to write a document, I open the application, open a blank document,
format it the way that I want it, and write away. I have never had a problem
with it. And, what ever you say, do not say "Ignorance is Bliss." Ha Ha Ha.

Truly though, Tom, I hope that you get it figured out. I write about the
things that I know about on this list, and like all of us, I ask questions
when I need to know how to do something.
Mike

If your eyes cannot see, then your mind's eye is your window to the world.

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From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:28 AM
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Jaws and office 2013

Mike:

This is encouraging.

My one question, though, is whether you had to do something to disable
"document object mode".

I have heard that if "document object mode" is enabled, a number of Jaws
functions won't work properly with Office 2013.

Thanks!

Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 2:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I am running JAWS 14 and Office 2013, and like it very well. I also ren the
two with Windows 7 for quite some time, and it worked well. I had the Office
365 for a short while, just the trial period, and the desktop applications
are the same as 2013, but I did not care for the cloud applications though.
The only thing I do not like about Office 2013 is that there are no drop
down menus, and the ribbons are harder to navigate to find the particular
item you are looking for.

Mike
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 5:22 PM
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Jaws and office 2013

Hello, all.



Yesterday, I was just informed at work that everyone with Windows 7 PC's
and
laptops is going to be made to switch from Office 2010 to Office 2013
within
the next few weeks.



Needless to say, this did not make my day!



They say that the switch is necessary because we will be moving from Lotus
Notes, to the Microsoft 365 e-mail and calendaring system during the
Spring
2014 University semester.



Does anyone have any thoughts on how Well Jaws 14 works with Office 2013,
and with MS365?



I was planning to stay with Jaws 14 for a while. My SMA has expired, and
I
really had no plans to ask the University to renew it for Jaws 15, since
they are sticking with Windows 7.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Jaws and office 2013

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's good to know. I will be going to Windows 7 Pro at home in a few days, and wondered whether to break open my factory-fresh 15, or stay with 14. I could field test it here at the office, but don't usually do that. The workload around here doesn't lend itself to experimentation, so I always use my home setup as a test bed.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Tom, I made the leap from JAWS 10 to JAWS 15, so I can't speak to JAWS 14. But I am currently running JAWS 15 with Windows 7 Pro, and I'm having no major issues. One change is that if you're on a website, pressing R no longer takes you to the next Radio Button--you have to use the letter A now. Again, I can't compare it with JAWS 14, but in a Windows 7 environment, I'm having no issues.

Brad

On 12/11/2013 3:55 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
Nermin:

But my dilemma is that we are all being forced to make the move to Office
2013 at work.

Supposedly, the version of the MS365 e-mail client that the University is
purchasing will not work well with Office 2010.

I also very much hesitate to switch to Jaws 15, since I have heard on this
list that Jaws 15 is made more for Windows 8, and its installation with
Windows 7 will cause some things not to work that used to work in Jaws 14.

Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws and office 2013

Hi Tom,

I was told by an FS employee from Germany that Office 2013 works best with
JAWS 15.0, cause there are certain things that won't read well and work
together in conjunction with Braille displays.
For the time being, it would be better to stick with Office 2010 for best
performance.
The support for Office is constantly being updated though.

Regards,
Nermin


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