Date   

moderated Re: Jaws question

 

David,

           I don't exactly know how to describe what is very often called the system tray, also known as the notification area under Windows 10, other than to say it's a part of the taskbar, and located to the right side of the taskbar in its own section.  Windows Key+B has the shortcut to throw focus to it for a very long time.  Under Windows 10 the first item will always be the overflow area chevron, which gets announced a couple of different ways depending on the screen reader, and where icons that you don't want to have to deal with all the time get tucked.  The ones you do want to have in the notification area all the time are shown to the right of the overflow area chevron.

            I can't remember now which JAWS setting it is that controls whether the JAWS window will appear in the taskbar items that you can get to via ALT+TAB to cycle through them, versus in the system tray/notification area.  I know it exists, and even dealt with it recently, but I can't recall its location in the JAWS settings at the moment and don't have JAWS 2021 handy to check to see where it is.  Unless they've changed something recently I believe that the JAWS window will appear on the taskbar unless you tweak the setting that says to run it from the system tray.  I could, of course, be remembering the default state incorrectly.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws question

JM Casey
 

It's just a way of accessing certain information or programmes that tend to
run in the background. If you don't have JAWS set to have its own window
open all the time, it will appear in the system tray. Whether its there or
not is really up to your personal preference.

Where is JAWS located? On your hard drive? It should mostly be within
c:\program files\freedom scientific. Though it does leave stuff in several
folders and in your user profile, that's where the main executable files
should be.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: November 21, 2020 06:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws question

Hello list:

What, exactly, is the "system tray", and is thiswhere my Jaws 2021 program
should be located?

Lastly, how do I tell where my 2021 Jaws is located?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

T. Civitello
 

I have been following this thread and have two suggestions. 1. Call Freedom Scientific Monday morning. They will get into your computer remotely and resolve the problem.    2. Try one of the registry cleaner programs.  I had a problem where Windows Live Mail would not install for me. I scoured the Internet and followed the suggestion to use a registry cleaner program, tried it and it worked.  Tom
 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.
 
Have you tried to redownload the JAWS 2021 file again. It should install weather you have a license or not.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Additional info for my previous inquiry

Norma A. Boge
 

The Jaws message is being spoken every time I use Insert + tab to check where I’m at. Thanks.

 


moderated Jaws question

David Pearson
 

Hello list:

What, exactly, is the "system tray", and is thiswhere my Jaws 2021 program should be located?

Lastly, how do I tell where my 2021 Jaws is located?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Jaws too verbose with Zoom

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020.2008.24 on my Win 10 PC. There are times, When tabbing around in Zoom, Jaws says “Alerts Enabled.
Chat Messages captured only”

before identifying what is currently in focus.

This has been happening since I began using Zoom in April. Would someone please let me know what I need to do to get rid of this message.

  

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


Have you tried to redownload the JAWS 2021 file again. It should install weather you have a license or not.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

Jim Rawls
 

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: Forms mode: your preferences

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I really  dislike automatic, too many times, I have found that automatic turns off forms mode when I don't want it too. Either because I moved passed the end of what I was inputting, or because Javascript code changed something in the input area and forms mode flipped out. I usually, use semi-automatic except in places where I have overridden it with manual. The hardest part about manual forms mode is that if you let somebody else use your computer, they have the hardest time with the fact that when you click on an input field, and then type aa character it is grabbed by the Virtual Cursor and JAWS moves somewhere else.


On Nov 20, 2020, at 20:57, Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:

When it comes to forms mode, what are your preferences for settings: manual, automatic, semi-automatic? And any particular reasons for your preference? Mine is set to automatic but I'm now wondering if there might be something better.  I'd like to hear others have to say, while I experiment.


moderated Re: problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

Laura Shumate <larelishumate@...>
 

I see this same issue.
I just go up into the links list and hit I until it says inbox.
Then I go to the message I replied to if it's there and then enter on
it and hit B for Buttons until I get to the delete button and delete
the Message.
Laura Shumate
larelishumate@gmail.com
If you need Android or Jaws for windows Support: Call 254-300-7667



On 11/21/20, Jim Ruby <jimruby67@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Since upgrading from jaws 2020 to jaws 2021 wen replying to email
jaws don't behave like it did in 2020.

when I finish a reply and click send jaws does not update and I still
see my message in the edit field and I can not click on any links, it
does nothing.

steps.

open gmail
use the html view
click on a message
go down to the reply edit field and enter a message and click send

At this point jaws breaks or at least is no longer responding like it
did in 2020

In jaws 2020

you would hear message sent and the reply edit field would be empty
and you could go down and click the link to return the the mail box
you were working in such as in box.

If I go back to jaws 2020 it works as expected.

Anyone else noticing this?






--


moderated problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

Jim Ruby
 

Hi, Since upgrading from jaws 2020 to jaws 2021 wen replying to email
jaws don't behave like it did in 2020.

when I finish a reply and click send jaws does not update and I still
see my message in the edit field and I can not click on any links, it
does nothing.

steps.

open gmail
use the html view
click on a message
go down to the reply edit field and enter a message and click send

At this point jaws breaks or at least is no longer responding like it
did in 2020

In jaws 2020

you would hear message sent and the reply edit field would be empty
and you could go down and click the link to return the the mail box
you were working in such as in box.

If I go back to jaws 2020 it works as expected.

Anyone else noticing this?


moderated Re: Forms mode: your preferences

Mario
 

I have forms mode set to manual. it is just as easy to type e to navigate to an edit field and see if it's the one that's needed. I don't like the automatic setting for forms mode especially when just reviewing what's on a web page. semi automatic is ok but I still prefer manual.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Mark [mailto:mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Friday, November 20, 2020, 8:57 PM
Subject: Forms mode: your preferences
When it comes to forms mode, what are your preferences for settings:
manual, automatic, semi-automatic? And any particular reasons for your
preference? Mine is set to automatic but I'm now wondering if there
might be something better.  I'd like to hear others have to say, while I
experiment.


moderated Re: having trouble with links

Shirley Tracy
 

Hi Jim,

 

That’s part of my problem. I’m using Gmail through MS Mail with JAWS 2021. Someone else suggested clicking on the first or second letter of the link, and it does help in most cases. Funny, sometimes a link will work and sometimes the same link will not work. I have also learned to wait a bit after I enter the link. Apparently, it sometimes takes a while for it to work. I have often been impatient.

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 5:28 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: having trouble with links

 

Hi, I am having the same problem on gmail. I If I type my email and just press enter on the send button the email will send, but jaws will not update so it looks like the email is not sent, but if I move the cursor to the second or third letter on the button it works. however if I continue to scroll down and try and hit the link to go back to the mail box I am working in I can never get that to work. I'm using gmail in html with ms edge with latest jaws 2021.

Thanks

 


moderated Re: having trouble with links

Glenn / Lenny
 


If it is a button, do you move to it with the letter B?
I usually use space bar on buttons before trying the enter key.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Ruby
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: having trouble with links

Hi, I am having the same problem on gmail. I If I type my email and just press enter on the send button the email will send, but jaws will not update so it looks like the email is not sent, but if I move the cursor to the second or third letter on the button it works. however if I continue to scroll down and try and hit the link to go back to the mail box I am working in I can never get that to work. I'm using gmail in html with ms edge with latest jaws 2021.

Thanks


moderated Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

Richard Turner
 

For what it is worth, I’ve subscribed to 365 for several years and have never had any accessibility issues.

I opt to download and install the stand-alone version.

If having a downloaded version ever goes away, which I doubt, then I will look at Open Office.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

 

My concern about the subscription model is that improvements sometimes mean compromises of accessibility. I waited to buy Office 2016 until it looked like obvious accessibility hitches had been fixed. It looks like Office 2019 is now also in good shape. I’ll be sorry when I have no choice but to migrate to 365.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

 

Office 2019 is a one time purchase, but keep in mind that at some point in time Microsoft is going to stop offering updates for that when the next version comes out. With office 365 you continue to receive all the updates, so you’re currently running the most up-to-date code.

 

On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

My reason for asking was subscription versus purchasing a one time license. I would like to avoid the subscription fee for office 365. Is office 2019 available for a one time purchase price or is it a subscription as well? Thanks, Mark

 

On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,
If you
buy Office
365,
you also get access to Office
2019 for as long as you
continue
to
subscribe, so it needn’t be
an either or.

Cheers,
Ed

On 21 November 2020 13:56:06 "Mark Arnold ABG" <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

List,

 

I am considering purchasing one of the two programs.  From a JFW accessibility position, are there any pros and cons between the 2019 and 365 programs?

 

Thanks,

Mark

 


moderated Re: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Mike!

 

To answer your question, an “audiophile” is someone who is interested in very high audio fidelity; typically involving very high-end, sophisticated audio equipment.

 

HTH,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

 

What is an audiophile?

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

 

Hi!

 

I am an audiophile.  I was wondering if there are any user groups or list servers for blind audiophiles?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

 

Office 2016 and 2019 are both under support until 2025.

When it comes the time when I cannot get a standalone version of Microsoft Office I'll finally make the leap to LibreOffice or SoftMaker Office Free.  I don't do subscription service (or at least not paid, as one can classify Windows 10 as being a subscription service) for things like Office or similar.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Randy!

 

Yes, I would like to speak with you off-list.  My direct email address is below.  Please email me there.

 

richardbmcdonald@...

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 12:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

 

Well, If you think audio is only properly reproduced through specialized components and very sophisticated speakers and are willing to build them yourself or spend a lot of money for them then you are a audiophile.

There are tons of audio forums on the net and I don't know if a blind specific one would get much traffic. you can e-mail me privately and we could talk. I have build cross overs and speaker systems for years and am getting back into it again with a dual 18" sub woofer build and a single 21" sub build. Basically large subs that you wont find in any box store or most brick and mortar stereo shops. At least not for several time the cost.

On 11/20/2020 8:54 AM, mike mcglashon wrote:

What is an audiophile?

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:52 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: OT - Are there any user groups for blind audiophiles?

 

Hi!

 

I am an audiophile.  I was wondering if there are any user groups or list servers for blind audiophiles?

 

Thanks,

Richard


moderated Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

Adrian Spratt
 

My concern about the subscription model is that improvements sometimes mean compromises of accessibility. I waited to buy Office 2016 until it looked like obvious accessibility hitches had been fixed. It looks like Office 2019 is now also in good shape. I’ll be sorry when I have no choice but to migrate to 365.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 9:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

 

Office 2019 is a one time purchase, but keep in mind that at some point in time Microsoft is going to stop offering updates for that when the next version comes out. With office 365 you continue to receive all the updates, so you’re currently running the most up-to-date code.



On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

My reason for asking was subscription versus purchasing a one time license. I would like to avoid the subscription fee for office 365. Is office 2019 available for a one time purchase price or is it a subscription as well? Thanks, Mark



On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,
If you
buy Office
365,
you also get access to Office
2019 for as long as you
continue
to
subscribe, so it needn’t be
an either or.

Cheers,
Ed

On 21 November 2020 13:56:06 "Mark Arnold ABG" <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

List,

 

I am considering purchasing one of the two programs.  From a JFW accessibility position, are there any pros and cons between the 2019 and 365 programs?

 

Thanks,

Mark

 


moderated Re: Office 2019 vs Office 365

Jim Weiss
 

Office 2019 is a one time purchase, but keep in mind that at some point in time Microsoft is going to stop offering updates for that when the next version comes out. With office 365 you continue to receive all the updates, so you’re currently running the most up-to-date code.


On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Mark Arnold ABG <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

My reason for asking was subscription versus purchasing a one time license. I would like to avoid the subscription fee for office 365. Is office 2019 available for a one time purchase price or is it a subscription as well? Thanks, Mark


On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Edward Green <ergreen1981@...> wrote:



Hi Mark,
If you
buy Office
365,
you also get access to Office
2019 for as long as you
continue
to
subscribe, so it needn’t be
an either or.

Cheers,
Ed

On 21 November 2020 13:56:06 "Mark Arnold ABG" <markarnold.abg@...> wrote:

List,

 

I am considering purchasing one of the two programs.  From a JFW accessibility position, are there any pros and cons between the 2019 and 365 programs?

 

Thanks,

Mark

 

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