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Re: could not load braille driver
mike mcglashon
Dam,
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It was supposed to only go to the lady; Oh well, Sorry guys, You got to see my "true confession" Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:49 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: could not load braille driver Ms. Anne: First, I am sorry that I didn't call right away after I got home; And, Second, I apologize for writing this email so late to let you know what happened; And Third, The thing is working now, Both "no error message" and the pacmate is alive; (dots are popping); Whenst I plugged it in, She came alive; I then turned off/on jaws and "voila no error"; Not calling you right away: As far as not calling you right away, Our bus was late arriving at indi; We had a non-compliant non-mask wearer who persisted; Hence, we pulled over, Allowed authorities to attend to him, And then moved on; We arrived at about 945 eastern time; I supposed that it might be too late to call, (you did say it was landline); And, The matter was not so important as to disrupt your evening. Emailing so late: As far as emailing you nearly an hour later, (probably unreasonable), I had a beer, Unpacked, Watched the islander game, And frankly lost track of time; Hence, I just now remembered to correspond with you as to the situation; Again, thank you for your instructions, As I executed them as prescribed; And, It seems to have resoluted the issue.. Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331 -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: could not load braille driver I had this one earlier this week. It has to do with the Windows 10 Braille driver setting. You can't have both Narrator and JAWS displaying Braille. Press the windows key, and in the searchbox type Braille. Arrow down to 'turn Braille on and off" and press enter. Be sure the 'turn on Braille' button is off. Tab to 'add a braille display'. Tab to 'add a Braille display' and ignore it. Tab again to the list of active Braille displays. there should be two: one that says windows something or other, and one that says Freedom Scientific packmate something or other. Be sure the windows is *not chosen and that the Freedom scientific display is chosen. Press enter and hope for the best. Good luck!
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Re: could not load braille driver
mike mcglashon
Ms. Anne:
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First, I am sorry that I didn't call right away after I got home; And, Second, I apologize for writing this email so late to let you know what happened; And Third, The thing is working now, Both "no error message" and the pacmate is alive; (dots are popping); Whenst I plugged it in, She came alive; I then turned off/on jaws and "voila no error"; Not calling you right away: As far as not calling you right away, Our bus was late arriving at indi; We had a non-compliant non-mask wearer who persisted; Hence, we pulled over, Allowed authorities to attend to him, And then moved on; We arrived at about 945 eastern time; I supposed that it might be too late to call, (you did say it was landline); And, The matter was not so important as to disrupt your evening. Emailing so late: As far as emailing you nearly an hour later, (probably unreasonable), I had a beer, Unpacked, Watched the islander game, And frankly lost track of time; Hence, I just now remembered to correspond with you as to the situation; Again, thank you for your instructions, As I executed them as prescribed; And, It seems to have resoluted the issue.. Please advise as you like. Mike M. Mike mcglashon Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net Ph: 618 783 9331
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:03 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: could not load braille driver I had this one earlier this week. It has to do with the Windows 10 Braille driver setting. You can't have both Narrator and JAWS displaying Braille. Press the windows key, and in the searchbox type Braille. Arrow down to 'turn Braille on and off" and press enter. Be sure the 'turn on Braille' button is off. Tab to 'add a braille display'. Tab to 'add a Braille display' and ignore it. Tab again to the list of active Braille displays. there should be two: one that says windows something or other, and one that says Freedom Scientific packmate something or other. Be sure the windows is *not chosen and that the Freedom scientific display is chosen. Press enter and hope for the best. Good luck!
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Jaws And Catholic Bible Question
Pastor Gilbert Pries
Use Biblegateway and go to the classic site. It is easy to navigate. The site is www.biblegateway.com and navagate to back to classic site and press enter. I use that site regularl
Hope this helps.
Pastor Gily.
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Re: Copying from clipgboard history
Justin Williams
Virtualize Clipboard Contents (Desktop or Laptop Layout) INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by C or CAPS LOCK+SPACEBAR followed by C
Read Clipboard Contents (Desktop or Laptop Layout) WINDOWS KEY+INSERT+X
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 2:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Copying from clipgboard history
Hello there,
I missed the beginning of this topic string, so I need to ask; How do I pull up the Windows 10 clipboard history?
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Paul, The clipboard history command should allow you to navigate across items you've previously pasted into the clipboard. Navigating with right arrow, in most cases, should move from one item to the next and pressing enter should paste the item to which you're pointing. Sometimes, these items may be spoken in an odd way. However, since you're a JAWS user I'd recommend using the FS Clipboard to append items that you copy into the clipboard. The default hotkey to do this is insert-Windows-C but this can be changed in keyboard manager to something which may be a bit easier to press. Pressing this key appends what you've selected to what's already in the clipboard and then ctrl-V pastes the entire group of items.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/28/2020 7:49 PM, Paul Filpus wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Justin Williams
I've actually encountered them at conveiton of the NFb, so they are accessible.
Justin
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 4:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
JW, of course stands for Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Bible that they use is the New World translation, which has been written to scrub out any reference to Jesus being the Son of God and God himself. Just be careful, unless that is what you believe.
Love in Christ
From: Jon Nixey Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Hi, the jw.org website is very accessible with Jaws, and the free downloadable app is available for Android and iOS and again is very accessible with both TalkBack and VoiceOver. It doesn’t have any Catholic versions of the Bible, but there are several versions available. There is also a study Bible dating from 2013 which has a vast amount of footnotes, references, and the like. The main feature is its easy to understand modern language, and there is a vast amount of languages that it’s available in. Hope this helps, Jon
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Amir Shah
Hi Adrian I heard of a web sight called Jw.org I recommend you checking that website out and I was told their is a app you can download on iPhone hope this helps.
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Marty Hutchings
JW, of course stands for
Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Bible that they use is the New World translation, which has been written to scrub out any reference to Jesus being the Son of God and God himself. Just be careful, unless that is what you believe.Love in
Christ
Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
From: Jon Nixey
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with
JAWS Hi, the jw.org website is very accessible with Jaws, and the free downloadable app is available for Android and iOS and again is very accessible with both TalkBack and VoiceOver. It doesn’t have any Catholic versions of the Bible, but there are several versions available. There is also a study Bible dating from 2013 which has a vast amount of footnotes, references, and the like. The main feature is its easy to understand modern language, and there is a vast amount of languages that it’s available in. Hope this helps, Jon
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
Amir Shah
Hi Adrian I heard of a web sight called Jw.org I recommend you checking that website out and I was told their is a app you can download on iPhone hope this helps.
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Re: Jaws2020 facebook live
O.Addison Gethers
Hi Cathy Anne When I hear it’s say go on live button if I press spacebar that’s mean I will be start live right? If so then when I finished talks on live how to I stop then what next ? I just want to make sure I’m doing rit right !! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of CathyAnne Murtha
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws2020 facebook live
The controls you want to access are buttons. Navigate buttons in a couple ways:
JAWS for Windows Navigation Quick Keys B and SHIFT-B Display a list of buttons CTRL-JAWS KEY-B, select a button, and press ENTER
Here are the steps you need:
1. Open the Facebook Home Page www.facebook.com 2. Locate the “What’s on your mind” button and press SPACEBAR to activate it
The new post page opens.
1. Navigate to the “More” button and press SPACEBAR to activate it 2. This opens a small dialog with more buttons 3. Navigate to the “Live Video” button and activate it with SPACEBAR
That opens the Live producer. This is where you can create a live video.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers
I guess nobody have any answer or suggestion for me. Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via groups.io
Hello All I have jaws 2020 and laptop computer window10 !! I want to know if anyone of you ever try to do facebook live video with yourself on www.facebook.com on google chrome or internet explorer website ? If so how do you do it step by step ? Because my friend was helping me and I call microsoft disability support on yesterday so my friend can tell support what she see on website to tell them to send me instruction on google chrome website !! Here what the lady support told me below and I try to press insert f7 it not saying what the lady support say instruction so I have to keep tabbing How to do facebook live:
Keep pressing tab until you heared go live then enter I will appreciate if any answer from anyone and thank you Addison
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Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi again, Richard and John. Please disregard my last message in which I said to TAB to the single click and press ENTER. This no longer seems to be available in notifications. The only workaround for this I see is to make sure you have notifications set to stay around for 30 seconds or so, and to click the notification with SHIFT plus Winkey plus V, then ENTER on the notification.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center Me too. Just pressing enter on it does nothing but for clearing it. So, I am still wondering how to activate it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center Whenever I do that, it just clears the notification. On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:51:11 -0400, Chris via groups.io wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Richard and John. Try tabbing to Left Single Click, and pressing ENTER on that.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:19 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center Me too. Just pressing enter on it does nothing but for clearing it. So, I am still wondering how to activate it. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center Whenever I do that, it just clears the notification. On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:51:11 -0400, Chris via groups.io wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Copying from clipgboard history
Tim Ford
Hello there,
I missed the beginning of this topic string, so I need to ask; How do I pull up the Windows 10 clipboard history?
Tim Ford
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:46 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Copying from clipgboard history
Paul, The clipboard history command should allow you to navigate across items you've previously pasted into the clipboard. Navigating with right arrow, in most cases, should move from one item to the next and pressing enter should paste the item to which you're pointing. Sometimes, these items may be spoken in an odd way. However, since you're a JAWS user I'd recommend using the FS Clipboard to append items that you copy into the clipboard. The default hotkey to do this is insert-Windows-C but this can be changed in keyboard manager to something which may be a bit easier to press. Pressing this key appends what you've selected to what's already in the clipboard and then ctrl-V pastes the entire group of items.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/28/2020 7:49 PM, Paul Filpus wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
There are quite a few websites that offer online versions of various editions of the Catholic Bible. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=accessible+online+Catholic+Bible
What suits one person may be entirely unacceptable to another. It's worth taking a look at a few and deciding for yourself which, if any, meet the exact needs you've got. You could even knock "accessible" out of the search terms and the results would still likely be so if you're looking at online Bibles. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Jon Nixey <jon.ofhs5790@...>
Hi, the jw.org website is very accessible with Jaws, and the free downloadable app is available for Android and iOS and again is very accessible with both TalkBack and VoiceOver. It doesn’t have any Catholic versions of the Bible, but there are several versions available. There is also a study Bible dating from 2013 which has a vast amount of footnotes, references, and the like. The main feature is its easy to understand modern language, and there is a vast amount of languages that it’s available in. Hope this helps, Jon
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Amir Shah
Sent: 30 August 2020 17:49 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Hi Adrian I heard of a web sight called Jw.org I recommend you checking that website out and I was told their is a app you can download on iPhone hope this helps.
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Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 11:57 AM, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
Every time I start my laptop, I get a pop-up notification that Intel wants to check for updates.It sounds to me like you are using the Intel Driver & Support Assistant, which does give these notices. Once you know you've seen one, it's far easier to go to the Intel Driver & Support Assistant icon in the system tray (probably in the overflow area shown by activating the chevron) and activating it. It then opens the Intel webpage where all "the magic happens" and throws focus to it. Then just wait for the system scan to be done and you'll get the install button for the update/updates on that page. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Chris
Notifications are in sections, so you are probably hitting on the section heading which clears the notification You need to arrow to the actual notification itself and not the section heading See how that works
From: Richard B. McDonald
Sent: 30 August 2020 18:19 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Me too. Just pressing enter on it does nothing but for clearing it. So, I am still wondering how to activate it.
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Whenever I do that, it just clears the notification.
On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:51:11 -0400, Chris via groups.io wrote: > > [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>] When in action centre tab > to the list of notifications, arrow down to the one you want to view > and hit enter on it > > Its as simple as that > > > From: Richard B. McDonald > Sent: 29 August 2020 16:57 > To: jfw@groups.io > Subject: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center > > Hi! > > Every time I start my laptop, I get a pop-up notification that Intel wants to check for updates. That pop-up happens too fast for me to get to it, or I otherwise just cannot get to it to say “yes.” However, I can see the notification listed in the Action Center, but I cannot figure out how to activate it so as to say “yes”; meaning check for and install any needed updates. How can I activate this notification? > > I am using the latest versions of Windows 10 and JAWS. > > Thanks, > Richard > > > > > > [2 <text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)>]
-- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it?
John Covici wb2una covici@...
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Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center
Richard B. McDonald
Me too. Just pressing enter on it does nothing but for clearing it. So, I am still wondering how to activate it.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 5:53 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: How to activate a notification that is in the Action Center Whenever I do that, it just clears the notification. On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 12:51:11 -0400, Chris via groups.io wrote: -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Amir Shah
Hi Adrian I heard of a web sight called Jw.org I recommend you checking that website out and I was told their is a app you can download on iPhone hope this helps.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 6:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
David,
A tiny postscript or your always well-informed posts. What you say is correct about the New Testament. However, what the Catholic bible calls “The Apocalypse” is called “the book of revelations” in the Protestant version. Apparently, the text is the same.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Kevin, As a Catholic I'm very familiar with the versions of the Bible to which you are referring. It contains seven additional books in the Old Testament which were eventually removed in most Protestant Bibles, along with some additional portions of Daniel and Esther. The New Testament is identical. I haven't looked for downloadable software containing Catholic Bibles or study material although I know that it exists but am not sure how accessible they are. The Bible Gateway does contain several Catholic editions, including the New American Bible, Revised Edition and the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition. Go to this page to set your preferences as to what edition you want as your default.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/29/2020 10:22 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Adrian Spratt
Richard, what you wrote concerned the Old Testament.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 12:01 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
I’m sorry, but you are completely off base. You clearly have not really researched what you are talking about. You went down the path of tyring to correct someone with very wrong information, I didn’t. I just tried to give accurate information. If you are not open to learning something new, I’m very sorry. I’m also done with this.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
We’re going far afield from JAWS, but what you say here has nothing to do with what I wrote. I merely pointed out that there is one difference, and only one, between the two versions of the New Testament, and that is the title of one book.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I was a Biblical Studies major in college. The extra books David was talking about has nothing to do with the “Apocalypse”. They are referred to as the Apocrypha by Protestants. Catholics consider them deuterocanonical And include them in the Old Testament. Some Protestant Bibles keep them but put them between the Old and New Testaments. I’m summarizing an article I found on the web here: The Roman Catholic Council of Trent declared in 1546 that the Deuterocanonical books were indeed divine. Of these books, Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees, remain in the Catholic Bible. First Esdras, Second Esdras, Epistle of Jeremiah, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasseh, Prayer of Azariah, and Laodiceans are not today considered part of the Catholic apocrypha. With one exception, all of these books are considered 'Old Testament'. The apocryphal New Testament 'Letter of Paul to the Laodiceans', was once incorporated in many versions of the Bible. However Laodiceans is now considered just a pastiche of other Epistles, and is omitted from contemporary Bibles.
HTH,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
David,
A tiny postscript or your always well-informed posts. What you say is correct about the New Testament. However, what the Catholic bible calls “The Apocalypse” is called “the book of revelations” in the Protestant version. Apparently, the text is the same.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Kevin, As a Catholic I'm very familiar with the versions of the Bible to which you are referring. It contains seven additional books in the Old Testament which were eventually removed in most Protestant Bibles, along with some additional portions of Daniel and Esther. The New Testament is identical. I haven't looked for downloadable software containing Catholic Bibles or study material although I know that it exists but am not sure how accessible they are. The Bible Gateway does contain several Catholic editions, including the New American Bible, Revised Edition and the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition. Go to this page to set your preferences as to what edition you want as your default.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/29/2020 10:22 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Richard Turner
I’m sorry, but you are completely off base. You clearly have not really researched what you are talking about. You went down the path of tyring to correct someone with very wrong information, I didn’t. I just tried to give accurate information. If you are not open to learning something new, I’m very sorry. I’m also done with this.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 8:51 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
We’re going far afield from JAWS, but what you say here has nothing to do with what I wrote. I merely pointed out that there is one difference, and only one, between the two versions of the New Testament, and that is the title of one book.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
I was a Biblical Studies major in college. The extra books David was talking about has nothing to do with the “Apocalypse”. They are referred to as the Apocrypha by Protestants. Catholics consider them deuterocanonical And include them in the Old Testament. Some Protestant Bibles keep them but put them between the Old and New Testaments. I’m summarizing an article I found on the web here: The Roman Catholic Council of Trent declared in 1546 that the Deuterocanonical books were indeed divine. Of these books, Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees, remain in the Catholic Bible. First Esdras, Second Esdras, Epistle of Jeremiah, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasseh, Prayer of Azariah, and Laodiceans are not today considered part of the Catholic apocrypha. With one exception, all of these books are considered 'Old Testament'. The apocryphal New Testament 'Letter of Paul to the Laodiceans', was once incorporated in many versions of the Bible. However Laodiceans is now considered just a pastiche of other Epistles, and is omitted from contemporary Bibles.
HTH,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
David,
A tiny postscript or your always well-informed posts. What you say is correct about the New Testament. However, what the Catholic bible calls “The Apocalypse” is called “the book of revelations” in the Protestant version. Apparently, the text is the same.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Kevin, As a Catholic I'm very familiar with the versions of the Bible to which you are referring. It contains seven additional books in the Old Testament which were eventually removed in most Protestant Bibles, along with some additional portions of Daniel and Esther. The New Testament is identical. I haven't looked for downloadable software containing Catholic Bibles or study material although I know that it exists but am not sure how accessible they are. The Bible Gateway does contain several Catholic editions, including the New American Bible, Revised Edition and the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition. Go to this page to set your preferences as to what edition you want as your default.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/29/2020 10:22 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Adrian Spratt
We’re going far afield from JAWS, but what you say here has nothing to do with what I wrote. I merely pointed out that there is one difference, and only one, between the two versions of the New Testament, and that is the title of one book.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 10:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
I was a Biblical Studies major in college. The extra books David was talking about has nothing to do with the “Apocalypse”. They are referred to as the Apocrypha by Protestants. Catholics consider them deuterocanonical And include them in the Old Testament. Some Protestant Bibles keep them but put them between the Old and New Testaments. I’m summarizing an article I found on the web here: The Roman Catholic Council of Trent declared in 1546 that the Deuterocanonical books were indeed divine. Of these books, Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees, remain in the Catholic Bible. First Esdras, Second Esdras, Epistle of Jeremiah, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasseh, Prayer of Azariah, and Laodiceans are not today considered part of the Catholic apocrypha. With one exception, all of these books are considered 'Old Testament'. The apocryphal New Testament 'Letter of Paul to the Laodiceans', was once incorporated in many versions of the Bible. However Laodiceans is now considered just a pastiche of other Epistles, and is omitted from contemporary Bibles.
HTH,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
David,
A tiny postscript or your always well-informed posts. What you say is correct about the New Testament. However, what the Catholic bible calls “The Apocalypse” is called “the book of revelations” in the Protestant version. Apparently, the text is the same.
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On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Kevin, As a Catholic I'm very familiar with the versions of the Bible to which you are referring. It contains seven additional books in the Old Testament which were eventually removed in most Protestant Bibles, along with some additional portions of Daniel and Esther. The New Testament is identical. I haven't looked for downloadable software containing Catholic Bibles or study material although I know that it exists but am not sure how accessible they are. The Bible Gateway does contain several Catholic editions, including the New American Bible, Revised Edition and the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition. Go to this page to set your preferences as to what edition you want as your default.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/29/2020 10:22 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
Richard Turner
One more little tidbit, It is the Book of Revelation, not Revelations. People often make the mistake of putting an “s” on the End of Revelation.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2020 7:48 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Looking for a Catholic Bible that I can use with JAWS
I was a Biblical Studies major in college. The extra books David was talking about has nothing to do with the “Apocalypse”. They are referred to as the Apocrypha by Protestants. Catholics consider them deuterocanonical And include them in the Old Testament. Some Protestant Bibles keep them but put them between the Old and New Testaments. I’m summarizing an article I found on the web here: The Roman Catholic Council of Trent declared in 1546 that the Deuterocanonical books were indeed divine. Of these books, Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees, remain in the Catholic Bible. First Esdras, Second Esdras, Epistle of Jeremiah, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon, Prayer of Manasseh, Prayer of Azariah, and Laodiceans are not today considered part of the Catholic apocrypha. With one exception, all of these books are considered 'Old Testament'. The apocryphal New Testament 'Letter of Paul to the Laodiceans', was once incorporated in many versions of the Bible. However Laodiceans is now considered just a pastiche of other Epistles, and is omitted from contemporary Bibles.
HTH,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
David,
A tiny postscript or your always well-informed posts. What you say is correct about the New Testament. However, what the Catholic bible calls “The Apocalypse” is called “the book of revelations” in the Protestant version. Apparently, the text is the same.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Kevin, As a Catholic I'm very familiar with the versions of the Bible to which you are referring. It contains seven additional books in the Old Testament which were eventually removed in most Protestant Bibles, along with some additional portions of Daniel and Esther. The New Testament is identical. I haven't looked for downloadable software containing Catholic Bibles or study material although I know that it exists but am not sure how accessible they are. The Bible Gateway does contain several Catholic editions, including the New American Bible, Revised Edition and the Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition. Go to this page to set your preferences as to what edition you want as your default.
David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019 WWW.DavidGoldfield.org On 8/29/2020 10:22 PM, Kevin Minor wrote:
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