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moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Leo
 

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. The problem is that the JAWS key with down arrow is just a standard say all and doesn't do a true skim read. However, you can use Keyboard Manager to add your custom keystroke for either the skim read command or for the skim read dialog. The quickest way to enter Keyboard Manager is to press the JAWS key with the number 8 on the row of numbers, not the number 8 on the numeric keypad.
Once you're in the Keyboard Manager, press shift-control-D to open the default configuration.
Next, in the list of keys type st and look for the Start Skim Read hotkey. Pressing control-a allows you to add the keystroke to another key without removing it from its current hotkey.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:50 AM, David Diamond wrote:

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 



moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

When you can activate Narrator is sort of a guess, but not long after you press the power button, press the ctrl+windows key +enter. If it does not start up, wait a few minutes and try again. This is the toggle to turn Narrator off or on.
Marie
 
 

From: G. Gray
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:59 PM
To: jaws list
Subject: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


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(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

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Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated Re: creating desktop shortcut

Adrian Spratt
 

When that prompt comes up, press enter. Unless your system is set up differently, it’s a big tease: Don’t come in. Oh well, come in anyway.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 2:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: creating desktop shortcu

 

And I want to create a desktop shortcut key for jaws  so I open the current version and not the 220 version. However when I press the context key and then go into properties and try  to create a shortcut key, it tells me that I need the administrators permission. My husband cannot see how to actually give permission. How is this done?

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0777 315 8181



On 27 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Diamond
 

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Leo
 

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

CJ &AA MAY
 

And I want to create a desktop shortcut key for jaws  so I open the current version and not the 220 version. However when I press the context key and then go into properties and try  to create a shortcut key, it tells me that I need the administrators permission. My husband cannot see how to actually give permission. How is this done?

by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 27 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

Richard Turner
 

It will probably come up talking with Cortanna and ask you some questions and tell you when you can launch narator to continue, but the hotkey is control+windows+enter.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 9:00 PM, G. Gray <geogray@...> wrote:



Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

 

Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10
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moderated Re: Mesage For Jim Weiss

 

Mr. Weiss gave you his e-mail address yesterday:  Jimweiss72@...

Please, take this private.

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moderated Mesage For Jim Weiss

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Guys,


I know this might be unusual, but I don't know if my messages are getting to Jim Weiss' inbox. So Jim this is for you:


VmWare and Windows Question
Hi Jim and thanks for responding so quickly. Hope things are going well with you.

I have noticed that when I log into Windows through VmWare that the fan runs high and the cpu usage goes up. I searched through VmWare's blog and support
pages and found out that it has something to do with the graphics manager and I need to place a couple of lines in the .vmx file.

The instructions say to right-click on the vmware library and choose content package and then find the .vmx file. As you know there is no keyboard shortcut
to right-click using Mac.

Do you know of any alternative way to get to this file?

Again, thanks for responding and I look forward to hearing from you.


moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

Michael Walker
 

On Nov 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated creating desktop shortcu

Gery Gaubert
 

I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: Jaws and firefox

Tony
 

I’ve had the opposite experience with browsers.  I used to use FF but it was getting very slow on most pages.  I was advised to switch to Chrome which worked for s few months until some site changes were made.  It would only load some pages on a main site on Windows 7 and none on Windows 10.

 

I ended up using Chrome for part of the site and FF for the rest on the older Windows 7 machine.  Fortunately, the site was changed again and now workds in Chrome and Windows 10.

 

Both Chrome and FF seem to gobble memory if allowed to sit idle for a while.

 

Tony

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 7:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws and firefox

 

Jim,
This is a known issue for both Vispero as well as Mozilla. Mozilla is definitely aware of these problems and I was able to assist them in filing one of the issue reports regarding these crashes. Some users are experiencing no problems when using JAWS and Firefox and I would love to know what's different with their machines. For me, I also experience noticeable performance issues during page loads. This is just one more reason why I stopped using Firefox and switched to a Chromium-based browser.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/25/2020 8:05 PM, Jim L wrote:

Heya folks,

 

Just recently went to Windows 10 and have found firefox crashing with that latest Jaws 2020 where it did not crash on my Windows 7 PC, anyone else having this issue?

 

 

Regards,

 

Jim

 

 


moderated What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Mark
 

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

ann
 

The only thing wrong with it that I can see is that the battery is just about out of juice. It gets about 5 or 6 hours when not plugged in, but if I keep it mostly plugged in, it works fine. It even connected to my iPhone running iOS 14 which is where i sometimes used it. Only using it now while I'm waiting for my Orbit to get here tomorrow.

~Ann

On 11/26/2020 6:42 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
I'm glad that worked. I had one of those at work when it was the new thing; I'm amazed that it still works.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann



On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftech.aph.org%2Frbd_info.htm&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cababc0ed472e42ed578708d8926364f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420302874769571%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BZX%2BtetChuRRdARWhAD%2F95lfOksF5EfQM0B1HVwNIJg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann








moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

Richard Turner
 

I'm glad that worked. I had one of those at work when it was the new thing; I'm amazed that it still works.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 3:31 PM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann



On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftech.aph.org%2Frbd_info.htm&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cababc0ed472e42ed578708d8926364f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637420302874769571%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=BZX%2BtetChuRRdARWhAD%2F95lfOksF5EfQM0B1HVwNIJg%3D&amp;reserved=0
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann











moderated Re: Connecting older APH Refreshabraille 18 to Jfw2021 on Windows 10

ann
 

Hi,

Thanks Richard.

I downloaded and installed the USB driver. Apparently, it works if you don't plug it in to a USB3 port, which I guess I accidentally did. Even the bluetooth problems are solved now.

~Ann

On 11/26/2020 10:01 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
It may not work, but the documentation and necessary drivers can be gotten from the following site.If you jump by headings there is one on installing the drivers.
here is the link.https://tech.aph.org/rbd_info.htm
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 26, 2020, at 5:29 AM, ann <tate886@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone in the states.

I'm trying to connect an older model Refreshabraille 18 to my Windows10 computer which is running Jaws2021. To show how old the model is, it still has a Mini B USB connector and not a Micro B USB port. When I try and connect it using Bluetooth, other bluetooth devices malfunction, such as my headphones. When I try and connect it through USB, it only stays connected for a minute or two.

I have tried other mini USB B cables.

The same also happens when using Jaws2020.

Do I need to download drivers for this unit to work with JFW? Or, is it simply too old to be useful?

Thanks,
~Ann




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