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moderated need help with loading narrator on a new computer

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


Thanks MUCH for the help...I plan on getting started in setting it up today.



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moderated scrolling a web page

Don H
 

So with NVDA you can turn off touch interaction and use one finger on the screen to scroll up and down on a web page.
How do you do this same thing with Jaws 2021?
Thanks


moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

Jim Weiss
 

Shortly after pressing the power button Cortana will greet you with an audio introduction.  At that point in time Cortana will tell you how to enable Narrator (Control + Windows + Enter) and how to disable Cortana during setup.  My Dell provides all of the audio through the internal speakers.  Several years ago I had an Asus which required me to plug in headphones until the audio drivers were installed.
Jim Weiss


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On Nov 27, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Marie <magpie.mn@...> wrote:

When you can activate Narrator is sort of a guess, but not long after you press the power button, press the ctrl+windows key +enter. If it does not start up, wait a few minutes and try again. This is the toggle to turn Narrator off or on.
Marie
 
 
From: G. Gray
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:59 PM
To: jaws list
Subject: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


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(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

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Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Steve Matzura
 

Good tag. Are you Buddhist by chance? ;-)


On 11/27/2020 7:50 AM, Leo wrote:

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: Setting for Jarte

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

As an aside I don't understand why screen reader mode can't be included as an option in the program's menu system to make it a bit easier for users who either want to enable or disable this mode in a way that is a bit more obvious. I will suggest this to the developers but I encourage others to do the same if this is a feature you feel is important.
As another aside there are several other ways to enable screen reader mode, including modifying a line of text in the .ini file but the method described in my previous message is perhaps the simplest.
If NVDA is running Jarte does seem to detect this screen reader and the screen reader mode is usually enabled automatically. I wish a similar arrangement could be made for JAWS users.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 




moderated Re: Setting for Jarte

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. From this page:

If Jarte does not recognize your screen reader program then you can force Jarte to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen reader mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to be done one time.

Note to JAWS users: Jarte is currently unable to recognize the presence of the JAWS screen reader. If you are using JAWS then you will need to use the method described in the preceeding paragraph to force Jarte into screen reader mode.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 8:02 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



moderated Setting for Jarte

David Griffith
 

Could somebody remind me of the setting change needed to make Jarte work properly with Jaws? I think it was David who helpfully provided this a few weeks ago. Now I have JFW 2021 of course Jarte is no longer usable and I have instantly forgotten the setting change to Jaws needed to make it work again.

I can switch back to Jaws 2020 but it would be good to make 2021 compliant as well.

I will remember to save the tip this time.

David G.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Leo
 

well, that's a very good mnemonic device!

Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/27/2020 5:26 AM, David Goldfield wrote:

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Hi. The problem is that the JAWS key with down arrow is just a standard say all and doesn't do a true skim read. However, you can use Keyboard Manager to add your custom keystroke for either the skim read command or for the skim read dialog. The quickest way to enter Keyboard Manager is to press the JAWS key with the number 8 on the row of numbers, not the number 8 on the numeric keypad.
Once you're in the Keyboard Manager, press shift-control-D to open the default configuration.
Next, in the list of keys type st and look for the Start Skim Read hotkey. Pressing control-a allows you to add the keystroke to another key without removing it from its current hotkey.
David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:50 AM, David Diamond wrote:

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 



moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

Marie <magpie.mn@...>
 

When you can activate Narrator is sort of a guess, but not long after you press the power button, press the ctrl+windows key +enter. If it does not start up, wait a few minutes and try again. This is the toggle to turn Narrator off or on.
Marie
 
 

From: G. Gray
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2020 8:59 PM
To: jaws list
Subject: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated Re: creating desktop shortcut

Adrian Spratt
 

When that prompt comes up, press enter. Unless your system is set up differently, it’s a big tease: Don’t come in. Oh well, come in anyway.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of CJ &AA MAY
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 2:54 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: creating desktop shortcu

 

And I want to create a desktop shortcut key for jaws  so I open the current version and not the 220 version. However when I press the context key and then go into properties and try  to create a shortcut key, it tells me that I need the administrators permission. My husband cannot see how to actually give permission. How is this done?

by Alison may

0777 315 8181



On 27 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Diamond
 

When wanting to skim read a document or email post, I myself just use the JAWS key and down arrow.  I like to keep things simple rather then cross my hands, then holding up a finger to do something. 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: November 27, 2020 3:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow

 

 

Leo
 
“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?

 


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Leo, thanks so much for this tip as I also didn't know that this particular key opens the skim reading dialog. Once you have your rule set you can also press control-insert-down arrow to immediately begin skim reading. When Eric Damery first demonstrated the feature he had a great way to memorize the hotkey as he said to think of it as a controlled say all.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 11/27/2020 6:08 AM, Leo wrote:

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:
Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: What is a not well known but great JAWS commands

Leo
 

hi, great topic, there are probably dozens of commands that are very useful, but we do not use them because we don't know them. Just right off the bat, I would put on the table the command for skim reading  document, it is mostly useful for long documents. The command is as follows:

jaws key plus control plus shift plus down arrow



Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,
On 11/26/2020 6:59 PM, Mark wrote:

Just today I learned that if you turn JAWS help mode on with JAWS + 1  and then double tap a key command, you get a slightly different help description than if you press a key onces.  I had no idea about it.  Do you have any favourite but not well known JAWS commands? or commands that took you a long time to discover?


moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

CJ &AA MAY
 

And I want to create a desktop shortcut key for jaws  so I open the current version and not the 220 version. However when I press the context key and then go into properties and try  to create a shortcut key, it tells me that I need the administrators permission. My husband cannot see how to actually give permission. How is this done?

by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 27 Nov 2020, at 2:37 am, Gery Gaubert <gerygaubert@...> wrote:



I went back through list messages and went searching on the web.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I want to create a desktop shortcut for a program.  Any help is appreciated.  Thanks!!


moderated Re: need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

Richard Turner
 

It will probably come up talking with Cortanna and ask you some questions and tell you when you can launch narator to continue, but the hotkey is control+windows+enter.



Richard
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On Nov 26, 2020, at 9:00 PM, G. Gray <geogray@...> wrote:



Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated need help with loading narrator on a new windows 10 laptop

G. Gray
 

Hello All-


I just got a new win 10 HP laptop.  It is still in the box, but I want to begin to set the thing up.  How and when can I start Narrator to help with this? 

Is the command n and then enter?

Thanks!!!!


-- 
I am Listening for the Shout!,
(1 Thessalonians 4:17-18)

George
Helpful hint:
How to  protect your wealth:
"Rule No. 1: Never lose money. 
Rule No. 2: Never forget rule No. 1."  Warren Buffett
1 Timothy 6:10
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."



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moderated Re: creating desktop shortcu

 

Adding Desktop Shortcuts Under Windows 10
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: Mesage For Jim Weiss

 

Mr. Weiss gave you his e-mail address yesterday:  Jimweiss72@...

Please, take this private.

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moderated Mesage For Jim Weiss

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Guys,


I know this might be unusual, but I don't know if my messages are getting to Jim Weiss' inbox. So Jim this is for you:


VmWare and Windows Question
Hi Jim and thanks for responding so quickly. Hope things are going well with you.

I have noticed that when I log into Windows through VmWare that the fan runs high and the cpu usage goes up. I searched through VmWare's blog and support
pages and found out that it has something to do with the graphics manager and I need to place a couple of lines in the .vmx file.

The instructions say to right-click on the vmware library and choose content package and then find the .vmx file. As you know there is no keyboard shortcut
to right-click using Mac.

Do you know of any alternative way to get to this file?

Again, thanks for responding and I look forward to hearing from you.

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