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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Rick Mladek
 

I did uncheck the show in groups and the problem is now gone.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

What happens if you switch to windows 10 mail?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Same annoying issue here as well.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: How to make Jaws show links on a braille disply

Cohn, Jonathan
 

Hello, 
Might be some double typing here, the new editor is not working well for me. 
If you have status cells then the status cells should show you links, buttons, lists, menus...
If not there is an item in the Braille settings area of Jaws setting center for structured mode called "type". The help for this field is:
Select an option to determine where control type information will be included in the structured line. Off, does not display control type information. On, includes it in the main cells of the display with the rest of the structured data. On (In Status Cells), displays it in the status cells of the braille display. The default setting is On (In Status Cells).

In th
e advanced area of the structure section, you can change the abbreviations used on the display to indicate controls.
Jonathan 

 

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:35 AM, John Doering wrote:

Try this:

Alt then arrow over to view.

Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter.

Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar.

This should kick you out and should be good.

I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.


Just slightly quicker, ALT+V, AB, W   (View Ribbon, Arrange By, Show in Groups) will toggle grouping on/off, depending on its current state.  It saves a lot of tabbing and arrowing.

In Outlook 2016 this works precisely as you described.  The default view, for decades now, has been Conversation view with Group by date.  If folks had grouping off, then at some time in the distant past someone turned it off.  It appears that this latest update turned it back on.  This sort of settings switch on update has become increasingly rare over the last few years, but it still occasionally happens.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Bill White
 

Expanded usually occurs when conversation view is enabled.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Where exactly are you finding the word expanded?

 

In my list of mail box folders, mine say open or closed.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is  spoken twice.

It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.

 

Definitely very annoying

Does anyone know of a fix?

 

Thanks,

 

Jesica

.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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Mobile:
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Jessica D
 

Hi,

What happens if you switch to windows 10 mail?

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:36 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Same annoying issue here as well.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Dan Longmore
 

Same annoying issue here as well.  

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

John Doering
 

Try this:

Alt then arrow over to view.

Arrow down, then tab to arrange by button and hit enter.

Tab to show in groups and uncheck with space bar.

This should kick you out and should be good.

I am using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, and Outlook 13 I believe.

 

HTH,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Not working, are you sure this is correct?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Rick Mladek
 

No, not threaded by messages...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Rick Mladek
 

Not working, are you sure this is correct?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

ODP: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

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Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu Michael Mote
Wysłano: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 1:29 PM
Do: main@jfw.groups.io
Temat: Re: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time

Can you send me the meeting info? I would love to participate as well?
This is a good idea.

On 3/18/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
I am going to join in order to listen to it, possibly answer someone
and maybe ask something? I’d be interested in learning MS Access with
jFW, but there are people with bigger needs…

Od: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> W imieniu David Goldfield
Wysłano: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:51 AM
Do: main@jfw.groups.io
Temat: Friday Night Tech Workshop: JAWS, Just Because. Providing Help
for JAWS-specific Questions. March 20, 8:00 PM, Eastern Time



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Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Rick Mladek
 

My version, same, is having exact same issues. I am using 2019 version of Jaws until this is figured out. Thanks for all help...

 

Rick

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Jessica D
 

Hi,

Yes, I do.

It makes life easier for me.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Richard Turner
 

You must have your messages threaded by conversations, I don’t, so I never hear the word expanded.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Jessica D
 

Hi,

If you arrow through your message list, you’ll hear exactly what I’m talking about.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Richard Turner
 

Where exactly are you finding the word expanded?

 

In my list of mail box folders, mine say open or closed.

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:40 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hi,

Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is  spoken twice.

It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.

 

Definitely very annoying

Does anyone know of a fix?

 

Thanks,

 

Jesica

.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Richard Turner
 

I’m back on my computer, press alt+v then a, v, w to turn off arrange by groups.

To turn it back on do the same.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

 

On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

John Doering
 

Any idea how  to turn off that feature?

Would like to see how the messages arrange with it off.

 

Thanks,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Jessica D
 

Hi,

Yes, I find this feature helpful, so will probably leave it enabled, and wait for someone else to chime in.

 

Thanks,

 

Jessica

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:42 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.

I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.

If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Richard Turner
 

your outlook is set to arrange by groups, dates.
I'm not at my computer right now, but you can turn off that feature in outlook.
If you want it left on, but want Jaws to ignore it, maybe Mike B, or someone else who knows Jaws settings better will chime in.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com



On Mar 18, 2020, at 7:37 AM, John Doering <john.doering@...> wrote:



I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al

Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

Jessica D
 

Hi,

Using office 365, I’m noticing that the word, “expanded” is  spoken twice.

It will say what Al said, then it’ll say “expanded” again.

 

Definitely very annoying

Does anyone know of a fix?

 

Thanks,

 

Jesica

.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 10:37 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

I have noticed the same thing.

Will be tuning in to see if someone has a fix.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
https://ibvi.org

Industries for the Blind & Visually Impaired accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided, unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 9:35 AM
To: JFWList <jfw@groups.IO>
Subject: annoying verbosity in Outlook since yesterday's update

 

Hello,

 

Using latest Windows 1909, Outlook 2016, and yesterday’s update of jaws the following announcement keeps repeating as I arrow down through mail in my inbox:

Group By: Expanded: Date: Yesterday

Each time I get to a message with a different date this announcement occurs. I’ve unchecked many verbosity setting in Outlook but can’t quiet this message. Suggestions?

 

Al