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moderated Re: summer convention specials

Van Lant, Robin
 

Haven’t seen one yet.  I saw one for AIRA and ACB that came out from ACB, but I think that’s the only one I’ve run across so far.

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:30 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: summer convention specials

 

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 

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moderated Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Cook, Steve
 

You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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moderated cool trick with signatures in Outlook

Van Lant, Robin
 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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moderated Question for other Webex meeting users

Van Lant, Robin
 

We use Cisco Webex at my company.  I’ve had a frustration that I wonder if any other users have experience and have thoughts on. 

 

When I  click on a link to a meeting, my browser (Chrome), will open.  The meeting screen will load.  I will often hear JAWS say something like, “You are having trouble with the connection”, but pretty soon I can tab around some of the features, including the participant list.  I have enough vision to see that a window has popped up where the audio & video connection information is.  It used to be that focus would land in that window and I could tab through the options on where to  do my audio connection, then I would click the Audio Connection button for Webex to call my phone.  After some upgrade a while back, I typically cannot get focus into that window.  As I tab around the initial screen that loads, I’ll hear something called audio Connection checked, but hitting this doesn’t seem to do anything.  I hear reference to a “floating panel”, but cannot seem to get to it. My current workaround is that I go to the audio menu with Alt A and open the audio & video connection window from there.   This can take precious time when I’m about to run late to a meeting.    

 

Anyone else have a similar issue?

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

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moderated Re: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Ann Byrne
 

You can buy an inexpensive Office 2019 from Kevin. nocm@juno.com

At 09:24 AM 6/2/2020, you wrote:
Hi Morey,

I assume you are in the US? Can you afford $69.99 a year or $6.99 a month? If you can you could subscribe to Microsoft 365 Personal, formerly known as Office 365 Personal. This allows you to download the full Office suite to your computer including Excel, Word, Outlook, Power Point etc. In addition you also get 1 Tb of OneDrive cloud storage. You can buy this from the Microsoft Store at the following link:

<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/p/microsoft-365-personal/cfq7ttc0k5bf?activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab>;Buy Microsoft 365 Personal- Microsoft Store

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morey Worthington
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:45 AM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Free screen reader Spreadsheet Program

Morning all. Looking for a Jaws friendly SpreadSheet Program to download. I tried Open Office but cannot even figure out how to get it to load. Tried Google Sheets and Jaws will not work in it either. Any other suggestions?

Currently using a version of Office 2007, but Excel keeps shutting it off in the middle of work saying it is not being offered anymore and it wants me to try "X number of days" trial.

So any other help appreciated. I cannot afford new Office Version. I have JART on this tcomputer but how the heck does a person even get past the first page???

Thanks

Morey Worthington
moderated Re: Jaws And Open Book

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  You had Twain right except that the “I” stands for Informative . 

Also, with the latest Windows 10 update the JAWS OCR may not work properly and a JAWS repair may be needed.  This happened to me and JAWS could not see the scanner even though OpenBook still detected the scanner. 

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

I just checked my Windows 10 scanner, and after doing the keystroke to scan a document with Jaws OCR it took a couple of minutes for the list to populate and show the Epson Perfection WIA option.  When someone is referring to a, TWAIN driver, it's the, WIA driver option you will see in Openbook if OB were installed.

Below are what the acronym TWAIN supposedly stands for:

 TWAIN literally means a, Tool Without an Interesting Name, or technology without an interesting name.

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Please remind me as to how to check that.  I am using Windows 7.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
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Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Does this HP all in one has a Twain Driver or does it just use the HP software?

I’m not sure the Jaws Convenient OCR would see it if it has some other software that drives it.

 

You might want to check for a Twain driver.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Marty,

 

To be honest I've never run into this issue you've encountered.  Is your printer scanner set as the default?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 1:32 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike, this is the message that I get.

“OCR failed to start.  No supported scanners or cameras available.”

There is no list to arrow through.

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

So, when you invoke the, Insert + spacebar, then press the letter, O , then pressing the letter, A , your HP scanner isn't in the scanner and camera list?  What does show in the list of options?  Have you tried using left & right arrow keys as well as the up and down arrow keys?


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 10:06 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Mike,  Thanks for this.  I was not aware that this was possible.  When I tried to acquire a document, I got a message saying that there were no scanners or cameras available.  I have a HP Photo Smart all in 1 printer/scanner connected.  How do I get JAWS to recognize it?

Thanks.

Marty

If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 11:44 PM

Subject: Re: Jaws And Open Book

 

Hi Pastor Gil,

 

Here's another option to use for scanning files.  I more often than not get better scans scanning this way.

 

How to scan files using a scanning device with the Jaws OCR feature.  Steps are below.  This will only work with JAWS2018 and newer.
 
1. Place whatever you want scanned with the OCR feature on your scanner.
 
2. Press the JAWS Key + Spacebar, then, O, for OCR, and press, A , for acquire.
 
3. Choose the scanner from the, Scanner & Camera combobox pop-up, tab to the, Acquire button, press the spacebar, and the scanner will scan the file using
the Jaws OCR feature.  It will then read it to you.  This is GREAT!
Note:  The shortcut keystroke to acquire is, Alt + Q.
 
To save the file you can export it to Excel or, after scanning select all the text with, Control + A, press, Control + C, to copy to the clipboard, then
paste the text, Control + V, into a text or Word
file and save.

 

 


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, June 01, 2020 4:27 PM

Subject: Jaws And Open Book

 

I bought my Openbook program and really like it.

 

Pastor Gil
moderated Re: jaws with text area boxes.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

 

Here is the html fix I found for it.

<label for="Query">Enter your query:*</label></td>

<textarea rows="4" id="query" name="query" aria-label="Enter your query:*"></textarea></td>

The label for and aria-label together, allows jaws to say “enter your query:*”.

However, the user just sees the actual label.

Without either one of these, jaws will not say anything in relation to the textarea box.

I have tested this with jaws 2018 and 2020.

I used a chrome based browser to try it. The browser is called brave.

I do not have google chrome or edge chrome installed, as I found their foot print on the laptop to be too great.

Brave performs in exactly the same way, as it is built on the chrome engine, but is a lot smaller.

 

Thanks,

 

Pat

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday 2 June 2020 00:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws with text area boxes.

 

I definitely see this with regularity, but deal with it the same way you do.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2020 1:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: jaws with text area boxes.

 

Hi,

 

Maybe someone else has seen this.

On a web page form, you will obviously have a number of different types of input, text boxes, combos, radio buttons etc.

One of these is a “textarea” which typically is used for entering something like a large query or something to be sent.

When tabbing through the various form controls, jaws will read out the labels associated with other input controls, but just says “edit” when it comes to the text area control.

If you tab away from it, and return to it after entering something, it just says “contains text”.

The label attached to it could say something like “please enter your query”.

If you come out of forms mode, and read the page normally, you will see the label text.

Has anyone seen this?

Any work arounds?

 

pat

 

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moderated Re: amazon

Glenn / Lenny
 

Even without support from Microsoft for IE, if it is a known site like
Amazon.com or the BARD site, there are no security threats and Internet
Explorer is perfectly safe.
Most people come across malicious sites either from fishing eMails or a web
search.
Even if I believe a message is from a legitimate site, I will typically go
to that site from my bookmarks and look for the information that the eMail
refers to.
I see a lot of fishing messages like my account needs updating or something
like that, and they want you to follow the link to your account.
When you check the properties of that link, you find it is not going to the
site that they are claiming.
That is where IE has problems, in fact, many browsers may have problems with
a link from a fishing message.
And even if folks prefer IE, it should not be your default browser, because
if you are tired and make a mistake on such a message, you want to have some
protection that Chrome or FireFox is better suited to provide.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <adrian@adrianspratt.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: amazon


I have never experienced this problem, no matter which version of JAWS I
use. For the record, it's now the latest release of JAWS 2020.

The reason to avoid Internet Explorer is the diminished security support
that I understand Microsoft now provides.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via
groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon


I have noticed that both Google Chrome and Mozilla firefox frequently crash
when accessing Amazon.com using JAWS 2019. This most often happens after I
enter a search term into the Amazon search field. The search results page
will begin to load, but as soon as I try scrolling through the results,
boom, the browser crashes. Trying to restore the session from the restore
dialog that pops up when I relaunch the browser never works, and almost
always causes the browser to crash again when it attempts to reload the
Amazon search results page. It does not matter whether I use the latest
version of Chrome, the latest version of Firefox or Firefox 52 ESR.
Interestingly,I do not experience these problems when using IE to access
Amazon.com, proving yet again that reports of IE's uselessness as a web
browser have been greatly exagerrated.


Gerald



On 6/2/2020 11:05 PM, Judy wrote:
I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest
thing to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and
type in what I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of
items, press enter for the one you want to check out and when you find
what you want press enter on the "add to cart button." It was
frustrating at first getting used to the layout of the page. I hope this
helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir
Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@sbcglobal.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does
differ on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Amir Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir shah, and I am trying to place a order on
amazon.com website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion
please?
moderated Re: summer convention specials

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Briefly, there are two conventions of blind people in the US. Both are virtual this year. It costs $25 to register for the American Council of the Blind convention, while registration for the National Federation of the Blind convention registration is free.  Note that my knowledge about all this is rather superficial, nothing says there won’t be other costs once you delve into it.  Both conventions will have some technology focus. 

 

To look into this further, find the convention pages on http://acb.org and http://nfb.org.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

Hello!

 

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

 

Best

 

Thabo

 

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

 

Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: summer convention specials

Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
 

Thank you!

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of NFB Lab 4 <nfbsc.lab.4@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:49:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials
 

Go to

Nfb.org/convention

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

Hello!

 

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

 

Best

 

Thabo

 

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

 

Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: summer convention specials

NFB Lab 4
 

Go to

Nfb.org/convention

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thabo Baseki
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 9:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

Hello!

 

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

 

Best

 

Thabo

 

While we’re still here, I would like to invite you to visit jw.org. There you will find answers to many questions such as: Why do we suffer? Does God care about me? How can I find true happiness? What is the key to a successful family? These and more are available on jw.org in over 1000 languages free of charge. Would you welcome a Bible discussion? I’m more than willing to chat.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials

 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:

 

Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.

 

Gerald

 

 

On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: summer convention specials

Thabo Baseki <THAB0.BASEKI@...>
 

Hello!

What do I do to be part of the virtual convention?

Best

Thabo

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:01:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: summer convention specials
 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: summer convention specials

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

I don't believe that Vispero is actively planning on phasing out SMA purchases because the home annual licenses are currently only available for personal use. Many users continue to rely on the JAWS Professional license which continues to offer SMA options.

As of now Vispero hasn't announced specific discounts on specific products for the virtual conventions but they have indicated that such discounts will be available for virtual attendees. Because specifics have not been announced all we can do at this point is speculate on what may be offered. If it's going to be like last year's offerings there were discounts on home annual licenses. If memory serves you could even get a 50% discount if you attended Eric Damery's session. My guess is that similar offerings will be made available for this year's conventions but I admit this is just speculation.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 7:00 AM, Gerald Levy via groups.io wrote:


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: Malware Program

Jason White
 

Just to amplify Brian’s point here, one shouldn’t expect people who don’t need screen readers to be proficient in their use, except for accessibility specialists whose job requires them to have this knowledge. All of the proficient screen reader users I know who are sighted are also accessibility specialists by profession.

 

Not every organization that develops software has accessibility specialists on staff. The larger and better resourced ones are more likely to employ them, but it isn’t yet the norm everywhere. Some rely on consultants who can provide training and remediation services, but not everyone can afford those either. Education for software developers is crucially important.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 11:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Malware Program

 

Mike,

           As you note, there are two sides to this coin.  The only thing I'll say is that I'm one of the very, very few sighted people I know who can use screen readers with any basic proficiency.  My central point, I guess, is that you who are screen reader users need to push, push, push and report, report, report, if you want to have any chance of moving the needle on accessibility for programs that aren't already there.

            It's not that you can't count on me to do what I can, but what I can do is a lot less than can be achieved by screen reader users becoming their own advocates on a consistent basis.  

            And I commend you on instructing the folks you were working with to install a screen reader and, I'd imagine, direct them on using same to get a direct feel for what you are presented with.  That's part and parcel of the necessary advocacy, too.  Blind folks can teach the sighted a lot more about screen readers, their purpose, and how they work than they will ever, ever be inclined to learn on their own, because they don't need them.  It cannot be helped, and it's pretty standard operating procedure, in technical support situations for the subject matter experts in a given thing to have to teach those who aren't.  And screen reader users must take on that role in regard to screen readers.

             Accessibility is not the battle of the sighted, and it never will be.  It's the battle of those that need it.  Part of that is cultivating sighted allies and increasing awareness of exactly how your world works (or doesn't, as the case may be) in interactions with technology.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: amazon

Adrian Spratt
 

I have never experienced this problem, no matter which version of JAWS I use. For the record, it's now the latest release of JAWS 2020.

The reason to avoid Internet Explorer is the diminished security support that I understand Microsoft now provides.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon


I have noticed that both Google Chrome and Mozilla firefox frequently crash when accessing Amazon.com using JAWS 2019.  This most often happens after I enter a search term into the Amazon search field.  The search results page will begin to load, but as soon as I try scrolling through the results, boom, the browser crashes.  Trying to restore the session from the restore dialog that pops up when I relaunch the browser never works, and almost always causes the browser to crash again when it attempts to reload the Amazon search results page.  It does not matter whether I use the latest version of Chrome, the latest version of Firefox or Firefox 52 ESR.  Interestingly,I do not experience these problems when using IE to access Amazon.com, proving yet again that reports of IE's uselessness as a web browser have been greatly exagerrated.


Gerald



On 6/2/2020 11:05 PM, Judy wrote:
I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest
thing to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and
type in what I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of
items, press enter for the one you want to check out and when you find
what you want press enter on the "add to cart button." It was
frustrating at first getting used to the layout of the page. I hope this helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir
Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@sbcglobal.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does
differ on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Amir Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir  shah,  and I  am trying to place a order on
amazon.com website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?
moderated Re: amazon

Gerald Levy
 

I have noticed that both Google Chrome and Mozilla firefox frequently crash when accessing Amazon.com using JAWS 2019.  This most often happens after I enter a search term into the Amazon search field.  The search results page will begin to load, but as soon as I try scrolling through the results, boom, the browser crashes.  Trying to restore the session from the restore dialog that pops up when I relaunch the browser never works, and almost always causes the browser to crash again when it attempts to reload the Amazon search results page.  It does not matter whether I use the latest version of Chrome, the latest version of Firefox or Firefox 52 ESR.  Interestingly,I do not experience these problems when using IE to access Amazon.com, proving yet again that reports of IE's uselessness as a web browser have been greatly exagerrated.


Gerald

On 6/2/2020 11:05 PM, Judy wrote:
I have used I.E as well as well as Google Chrome. I find the easiest thing
to do is press the letter F and it will find the edit field and type in what
I'm looking for and then scroll down through the list of items, press enter
for the one you want to check out and when you find what you want press
enter on the "add to cart button." It was frustrating at first getting used
to the layout of the page. I hope this helped, but write back if it didn't.
Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Amir Shah
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use internet explore

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: amazon

I use the latest version of Firefox without any problems.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Judy [mailto:bunchkinbear@sbcglobal.net]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 6:43 PM
Subject: amazon
Hi, what browser are you trying to use? My experience is that it does differ
on how easy it is depending on the browser. Judy

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Amir
Shah
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:54 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* amazon

Hi my name is Amir  shah,  and I  am trying to place a order on amazon.com
website I don’t think It is blind friendly any suggestion please?
moderated Re: summer convention specials

Gerald Levy
 


Normally, Vispero only offers special discounts to attendees at the ACB and NFB national conventions.  However, because both organizations will be holding their respective conventions entirely online this summer due to Corona virus restrictions and health concerns, it is unclear how Vispero would offer special discounts to convention participants, if they offer any discounts at all.  Almost nobody purchases JAWS outright any longer because it is far more cost effective to purchase a one-year license for only $90.  I doubt that Vispero would offer discounts on JAWS SMA's because they want to phase them out and gradually migrate all JAWS users to the one-year license arrangement, which would be more profitable for them over the long run.  Maybe as a gesture of good will to help out the thousands of blind consumers who are stuggling financially during the health crisis, Vispero will extend the free trial period for JAWS beyond June 30.


Gerald



On 6/3/2020 6:30 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated summer convention specials

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

 

 
moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

The question is, when did you  talk to them?  LOL.  It’s already been mention though that they are taking calls again.  When I called them a couple of weeks ago, they weren’t.  It never hurts to call. 

moderated Re: amazon

David Diamond
 

That’s good news.  By enlarge they are quicker then most telephone help desks.  I just don’t call them after 10 PM PST.  The reason is, often they act preoccupied or in one case, I heard the TV and children in the background and it was clear the person answering had her mind somewhere else. 

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