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moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Everything is allright. Wherever are people, there are opinions and stuff... By the way, anyone have an idea what to do about KTS?

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 3:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

I did copy down the incorrect line, thank you for pointing that out. No disrespect to our new member of this list. I also ask all to accept my apology for my defending all of our rights to this list and not attacking those foreign to the United States with political jargon. I'll close this note and ask all to do so as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

BTW, Pozdrawiam means Best Regards. it is not a name.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 7:52 AM
Subject: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia? There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both
JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I
won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a
JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a
detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with
Kaspersky.

<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When
using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being
able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or
shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a
while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program
update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and
reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do.
For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch
cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you
access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or
Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel
that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I
learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write
some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can
happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user
from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design
and other things. I have came here to discuss this great
screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best
of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this
software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty
wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK,
however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to
work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the
touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s
interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use
it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Rick Mladek
 

I did copy down the incorrect line, thank you for pointing that out. No disrespect to our new member of this list. I also ask all to accept my apology for my defending all of our rights to this list and not attacking those foreign to the United States with political jargon. I'll close this note and ask all to do so as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 9:27 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

BTW, Pozdrawiam means Best Regards. it is not a name.
-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 7:52 AM
Subject: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia? There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both
JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I
won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a
JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a
detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with
Kaspersky.

<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When
using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being
able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or
shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a
while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program
update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and
reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do.
For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch
cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you
access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or
Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel
that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I
learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write
some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can
happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user
from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design
and other things. I have came here to discuss this great
screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best
of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this
software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty
wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK,
however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to
work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the
touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s
interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use
it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Mario
 

BTW, Pozdrawiam means Best Regards. it is not a name.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Rick Mladek [mailto:hmladek@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 7:52 AM
Subject: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS
Pozdrawiam,

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political
comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around
the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all
here about Jaws and not anything more.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gerald
Levy via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are
based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even
be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of
the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close
ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are
true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and
totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?

Gerald

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been
using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both
JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I
won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a
JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a
detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with
Kaspersky.

<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>When
using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being
able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or
shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a
while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program
update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and
reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do.
For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch
cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you
access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or
Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel
that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I
learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write
some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can
happen.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019



WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user
from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design
and other things. I have came here to discuss this great
screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best
of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS
support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this
software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty
wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK,
however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to
work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the
touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always
convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s
interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use
it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno


moderated Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hey Norma,

Try pressing Insert+X so the smart mode is set to off. Then try and browse to your button with B, down or right arrow and hit it with space.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 3:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Hi Adrian and all on this thread,

 

Using J2020, landing on the problem button, Jaws says:

“Actions Remind Button button menu‑ collapsed‑ menu”

So, when I activated the button, I was actually hitting the remind button instead of opening the menu.

Using J2019, Jaws correctly reads the remind and menu buttons as 2 separate, one below the other. Why J2020 didn’t see this, I don’t know. But I definitely need to somehow adjust J2020 so this mistake does not happen again.

I will take the remainder of my problem directly to Paypal because although I am hitting enter on the cancel button, I’m not getting the confirm dialogue so something is still hinky.

With J2020 I’ve experienced Jaws mistakenly reading as outlined above, but the confusion didn’t create such a major problem until now.  If anyone has a fix for this in particular, please let me know.

Someone on the list once said that running the most current version of Jaws gives one the best accessibility. I disagree. And I think a number of others on this list would, as well.

 

Thanks again everyone,

Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Norma,

To add to the suggestions in the thread below, you might try any of the following:

Maximize the webpage and then press JAWS key+escape to “repaint” it.

Unload and reload JAWS.

Unload JAWS 2020 and, if you have one on your system, try an earlier version. I recently noticed that JAWS 18 can accomplish some tasks that JAWS 2020 won’t.

If you haven’t already, reboot your system and start over.

For the record, I haven’t recently had accessibility problems with PayPal, but I may not have needed to execute this particular command.

PayPal has, or used to have, a recognize accessible technology expert on staff. If you can’t resolve this problem, I’m guessing they’d be receptive to working with you, especially with cancelling this transaction.

I’m sorry you’re experiencing such frustration. It’s awful when you reach the button you need and it won’t work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Hi Norma,

Have you tried the space bar on the button?

Also, did you do insert + F5 and down arrow to the desired button?

Another thing to try is to get to the button and do insert + #3 (above the E key) which is enter key to pass through

and then try enter and/or space bar.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Just tried it, seems to do nothing. Thanks none the less, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Have you tried a simulated left mouse click?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Hey group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I’ve tried to activate a menu button on Paypal. Specifically, it’s in Invoice Activity. I’ve tried with Edge, Firefox 72.0.1  and Chrome 80.0.3987.122. Here’s the speech history:

 

Column 10
Actions
Remind
Button‑ 
button menu‑ collapsed‑
Column 11

 

I’ve tried PC, Jaws and Touch cursors and from the list of buttons. It doesn’t open a menu, it just takes me to the detail page of the selected invoice. (No go with NVDA, either, for what it’s worth.)

I need to cancel the invoice, and I read that option is in this menu I can’t get to open.

Ideas will be most welcome.

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I wish there were more groups about JFW.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jschliff@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

I agree, I am on the verge of leaving this group because there are instances where the group loses focus on its real purpose, Jaws and it’s solutions to provide all of us with real meaningful use of our computers.  I am too busy to follow the nonsense!

 

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi Adrian and all on this thread,

 

Using J2020, landing on the problem button, Jaws says:

“Actions Remind Button button menu‑ collapsed‑ menu”

So, when I activated the button, I was actually hitting the remind button instead of opening the menu.

Using J2019, Jaws correctly reads the remind and menu buttons as 2 separate, one below the other. Why J2020 didn’t see this, I don’t know. But I definitely need to somehow adjust J2020 so this mistake does not happen again.

I will take the remainder of my problem directly to Paypal because although I am hitting enter on the cancel button, I’m not getting the confirm dialogue so something is still hinky.

With J2020 I’ve experienced Jaws mistakenly reading as outlined above, but the confusion didn’t create such a major problem until now.  If anyone has a fix for this in particular, please let me know.

Someone on the list once said that running the most current version of Jaws gives one the best accessibility. I disagree. And I think a number of others on this list would, as well.

 

Thanks again everyone,

Norma

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 11:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Norma,

To add to the suggestions in the thread below, you might try any of the following:

Maximize the webpage and then press JAWS key+escape to “repaint” it.

Unload and reload JAWS.

Unload JAWS 2020 and, if you have one on your system, try an earlier version. I recently noticed that JAWS 18 can accomplish some tasks that JAWS 2020 won’t.

If you haven’t already, reboot your system and start over.

For the record, I haven’t recently had accessibility problems with PayPal, but I may not have needed to execute this particular command.

PayPal has, or used to have, a recognize accessible technology expert on staff. If you can’t resolve this problem, I’m guessing they’d be receptive to working with you, especially with cancelling this transaction.

I’m sorry you’re experiencing such frustration. It’s awful when you reach the button you need and it won’t work.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Hi Norma,

Have you tried the space bar on the button?

Also, did you do insert + F5 and down arrow to the desired button?

Another thing to try is to get to the button and do insert + #3 (above the E key) which is enter key to pass through

and then try enter and/or space bar.

HTH.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Just tried it, seems to do nothing. Thanks none the less, Norma

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Have you tried a simulated left mouse click?

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 5:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Unable to activate button menu-paypal.com

 

Hey group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020 and I’ve tried to activate a menu button on Paypal. Specifically, it’s in Invoice Activity. I’ve tried with Edge, Firefox 72.0.1  and Chrome 80.0.3987.122. Here’s the speech history:

 

Column 10
Actions
Remind
Button‑ 
button menu‑ collapsed‑
Column 11

 

I’ve tried PC, Jaws and Touch cursors and from the list of buttons. It doesn’t open a menu, it just takes me to the detail page of the selected invoice. (No go with NVDA, either, for what it’s worth.)

I need to cancel the invoice, and I read that option is in this menu I can’t get to open.

Ideas will be most welcome.

 

Thanks,

Norma


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Jschliff@...
 

I agree, I am on the verge of leaving this group because there are instances where the group loses focus on its real purpose, Jaws and it’s solutions to provide all of us with real meaningful use of our computers.  I am too busy to follow the nonsense!

 

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Friends, please stay civil wherever possible. He just expressed his opinion, with which I disagree, but it’s his right, I guess. Now let’s back to Jawsing please?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Rick Mladek
 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Gerald Levy
 


Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  


Gerald


 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: JAWS and accessibility of mathematical content

Jason White
 

JAWS supports MathML, including interactive navigation, speech, and Nemeth Code braille, with no plug-in or other additional software required. You should also investigate NVDA with MathPlayer.

 

From: <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
Reply-To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 07:30
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: JAWS and accessibility of mathematical content

 

Hello!

I am a high-school student and I will be majoring in CS in some near future, meaning that I will need access to mathematic. For the competing screenreader, there is a thing named Math Player, Access 8 math and so on. What we have in terms of JFW?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Rick Mladek
 

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated JAWS and accessibility of mathematical content

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hello!

I am a high-school student and I will be majoring in CS in some near future, meaning that I will need access to mathematic. For the competing screenreader, there is a thing named Math Player, Access 8 math and so on. What we have in terms of JFW?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

What do you mean?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ingram
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

update?

-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Mar 4, 2020 5:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS


Hello Geralt,

Thank you for your information and concern. I know everything you are talking about, but I am just used to the oftware, plus I prefer Russian telemetry than the American telemetry.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: facebook messenger issue with chrome/IE and jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I am happy I could help...

Pozdrawiam,
Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of James English
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: facebook messenger issue with chrome/IE and jaws

Hello,

Thanks a lot! That fixed literally the most annoying computer issue I've had for years.

- James

On 3/3/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
Good day sir,
whenever such a think happens, press F11 to maximize the browser
window, atleast in Chrome. Keep in min though you will not be able to
access the left alt menu while the browser is maximized. You need to
press F11 again to restore the browser window to its original state again.
Best,
Nuno.




moderated Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

Chris Hill
 

Well, I've been using office 365 for a couple of years, and I just updated to the latest yesterday.  The only time I've ever had your problem is when my scroll lock got turned on.  If that isn't your problem, you should call fs tech support so they can figure out what it is.



On 3/3/2020 23:00, Rayn Darren wrote:

It sorta worked, it only read me one cell though, when I arrow through it doesn’t read anything else. Any other suggestions?

Sarah

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Excel and Jfw 2020

 

Check your scroll lock key, that'll do it every time.  Make sure it is off and then relaunch excel.

 

 

 

On 3/3/2020 18:07, Rayn Darren wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

Today, Excel stopped reading cells to me entirely. I’m able to use commands such as find, but it wont read anything in the cells once whatever I’m finding is actually found. Any ideas what’s going on?  I’m only having this problem in Excel btw, Word and Outlook work just fine and I don’t use any of the other products in the suite to test them out.

 

TIA,

Sarah


moderated Re: facebook messenger issue with chrome/IE and jaws

James English
 

Hello,

Thanks a lot! That fixed literally the most annoying computer issue
I've had for years.

- James

On 3/3/20, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:
Good day sir,
whenever such a think happens, press F11 to maximize the browser window,
atleast in Chrome. Keep in min though you will not be able to access the
left alt menu while the browser is maximized. You need to press F11 again to
restore the browser window to its original state again.
Best,
Nuno.




moderated Re: Copying contents of a sheet

Jim Pursley
 

Didn't work for me, Mike, but JAWS key/shift/s brings up a handy little list of things you can do with spreadshheets (assume Excel though I did  not see the original question) including move/copy. I've found it faster and easier to do the cursor in A1/control A to highlight the whole sheet, control C to copy and on the new sheet in A1to press control v and I'm done. an

On 3/3/2020 6:59 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
Another way to do it is to press alt+h, then o, then m to get into the move/copy sheet dialog.  Select  the sheet you want to copy before, then Tab once to 'copy' and check it.  At 12:12 PM 3/3/2020, you wrote:
Hi John,

Place your cursor on the first or beginning cell
Press shift + Ctrl then the end button.  This highlights all your cells from the first cell to the last cell.  All rows and columns in your range will be highlighted.
Then press ctrl + C to copy the cells
Move to your new sheet locate the cell where you would like to begin your paste
Once you have your cursor where you want to begin press Ctrl +V to paste

If you have special paste requirements use the application button instead of the Ctrl + V combo keystrokes.

Joseph

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Doering
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Copying contents of a sheet

Hello:
I need to copy the contents of a sheet and paste the contents into another sheet in another workbook.  The trick is that I do not know which cells in the sheet contain data.
Any suggestions on how to find out what range of cells have data.  Then the best way to select that area to copy to the new sheet.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,


John Doering
Pricing Analyst

Office: 4147783040 Extn:4063
Mobile:
445 S Curtis Rd West Allis, WI 53214
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moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

David Ingram
 

update?

-----Original Message-----
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Sent: Mar 4, 2020 5:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Hello Geralt,

Thank you for your information and concern. I know everything you are talking about, but I am just used to the oftware, plus I prefer Russian telemetry than the American telemetry.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hello Geralt,

Thank you for your information and concern. I know everything you are talking about, but I am just used to the oftware, plus I prefer Russian telemetry than the American telemetry.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 12:31 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno