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Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
Glenn / Lenny
What are you using for a keyboard?
If it is a USB one, if you can, try another
keyboard.
If it is a laptop, try plugging in another
keyboard, and if that prevents it from happening, you will know what is causing
the problem.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: O.Addison Gethers
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem Hi Glenn Well it did it again 2 time today (Sunday) when I was finish reading website and came on email when I press enter on unread email to open it’s say jaws tandem and enter the id number from who want to do tandem computer I said oh no not again so I press alt f4 to closed tandem window . I don’t know what to do stop this jaws tandem keep popped in window screen for no reason at all!! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
So perhaps the alt key is sticking for Addison, and if she is doing insert T for Title, that would cause this. Usually alt is the culprit in cases like this. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
The keystroke to start tandem is insert alt T.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
There is a key to launch Jaws Tandem, I forget what it is because I usually get to it through the menus, but I suspect that you might be inadvertently pressing that key combination. Maybe you have a sticky key which is part of that needed key combination and you are just doing the rest of the combination that launches Jaws Tandem. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: O.Addison Gethers To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 11:28 AM Subject: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
Hello All I’m using desktop computer window10 and jaws2019 !! I don’t know what’s going on for some reason about jaws tandem keep popping up on window screen while I’m on IE ,firefox and email window !! When I open IE and was on website reading about 10 or 15 minute later I went to email suddenly while I was trying to press enter on the email to read it’s say alt left arrow then I press insert t for title it’s say microsoft outlook then I try to press insert down arrow to read the email however it’s say alt down arrow then I press insert t then it’s say jaws tandem enter the id number who is doing to do tandem then I say what?? So I press alt f4 to close it out it’s say jaws tandem closed !! So it’s doing that when I opened firefox too. Does anyone have this problem ? It have been going on in March,April and last month and again 3 day ago !! Addison
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Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
O.Addison Gethers
Hi Glenn Well it did it again 2 time today (Sunday) when I was finish reading website and came on email when I press enter on unread email to open it’s say jaws tandem and enter the id number from who want to do tandem computer I said oh no not again so I press alt f4 to closed tandem window . I don’t know what to do stop this jaws tandem keep popped in window screen for no reason at all!! Addison
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 2:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
So perhaps the alt key is sticking for Addison, and if she is doing insert T for Title, that would cause this. Usually alt is the culprit in cases like this. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: NFB Lab 4 Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
The keystroke to start tandem is insert alt T.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
There is a key to launch Jaws Tandem, I forget what it is because I usually get to it through the menus, but I suspect that you might be inadvertently pressing that key combination. Maybe you have a sticky key which is part of that needed key combination and you are just doing the rest of the combination that launches Jaws Tandem. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: O.Addison Gethers To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 11:28 AM Subject: Jaws2019 Strange for Jaws tandem
Hello All I’m using desktop computer window10 and jaws2019 !! I don’t know what’s going on for some reason about jaws tandem keep popping up on window screen while I’m on IE ,firefox and email window !! When I open IE and was on website reading about 10 or 15 minute later I went to email suddenly while I was trying to press enter on the email to read it’s say alt left arrow then I press insert t for title it’s say microsoft outlook then I try to press insert down arrow to read the email however it’s say alt down arrow then I press insert t then it’s say jaws tandem enter the id number who is doing to do tandem then I say what?? So I press alt f4 to close it out it’s say jaws tandem closed !! So it’s doing that when I opened firefox too. Does anyone have this problem ? It have been going on in March,April and last month and again 3 day ago !! Addison
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Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Norma A. Boge
Hi,
All I have to go on is problems that occur when using J2020 do not occur when using 2019. They include:
Even more sluggishness in outlook 365, esp. when replying to a message
In Word 365, Jaws says “normal” when I arrow up and down through lines whether they have text or not. I spent an hour with a FS tech trying to resolve this issue and we finally ended up restoring J2020 factory settings. Major PITA. J2020 was OK for a few months, and now it’s happening again. So I need to use J2019 when working in Word.
There are other issues which I can’t recall now. And I know I’m not the only one who’s expressing frustration with J2020 problems.
Regards, Norma
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:43 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Well…what problems are you having? Is there any particular reason you feel your performance issues are related to jaws?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Hi group,
I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: Antivirus software.
Jason White
I don’t know about “most accessible”, as I haven’t been comparing security software for accessibility, but it is highly accessible.
Note also that Microsoft has strengthened Windows Defender over time. For example, in Windows 2004, there is now an option to block “potentially unwanted applications” that may not be malware as such, but which have effects that you probably don’t want or don’t intend. Another Windows 10 release (I can’t remember whether it was 1903 or 1909) added “tamper protection” to Windows Defender, which you also need to turn on in Windows Security.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:37 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Antivirus software.
Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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Re: Antivirus software.
Patrick Murphy
Hi,
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I too use eset. Despite a number of calls to them about accessibility, it has fallen on deaf ears. pat
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: Sunday 7 June 2020 00:00 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Antivirus software. I have heard a lot about how Windows Defender has improved. So much so I abandoned the ESET Smart security subscription I had because of deteriorating accessibility. I have however kept my old 1.7 version of Malwarebytes going and resisted program upgrade to maintain accessibility although I let the virus database keep up to date. Thank goodness I did. During the last week Malwarebytes identified a Trojan on my laptop that Windows Defender was completely oblivious of despite my performing a complete Windows Defender scan after the Malwarebytes alert. I turned to Windows Defender as Initially Malwarebytes was struggling and failing to quarantine this Trojan threat. On investigation it had infected one of the plug-in directories of Videoland VLC. Uninstalling VLC did not succeed in removing the offending files and predictably trying to delete these files manually also failed as Windows identified them as being used by another process. Eventually a full scan by Malwarebyte was able to remove this trojan from my registry in memory and I was finally able to also delete the offending VLC directories as a failsafe. What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely unaware of this problem and failed to react. David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette Sent: 06 June 2020 23:37 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Antivirus software. Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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latest Outlook issue
Rick Mladek
Hello all,
When going through my inbox with outlook 2019 single key type and not 365, also Jaws 2019 due to Jaws 2020 being too troubled and latest Windows 10.
When in my inbox, having many emails to go through, I highlight the first, listen to the subject and if nothing I choose to listen to, I simply delete. The inbox then shows zero messages within until I arrow down and it then will read the next message. Before, it would automatically read the next message in succession for me to either delete again or read. I’ve not changed any settings.
Any ideas why this is listing my inbox as having zero messages within when it actually may have many? Then not recognizing the next until I arrow down to the next, then it will tell me how many messages within the inbox. Odd and hope someome can tell me what may need changed to correct this issue.
Thanks all,
Rick
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Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Cornelius
Go for the latest JAWS2020.
From: Norma A.
Boge
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 11:49 PM
To: list Jaws
Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1 Hi group,
I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: Antivirus software.
david Jennette
Thanks. It's still looking like defender is the package of choice. I do know it's improving but I did want to see if anyone had heard of any accessibility improvements in other security software. Just a head's up. Your probably going to see a repeat of my original message because for some reason it took an hour or two to post to the list so I sent it again. Sorry about that.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Emre Rencber Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:23 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Antivirus software. Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard. I recommend Kaspersky. But, there are very accessibility problem this software. Of course it is very very very good antivirus. 2020-06-07 1:37 GMT+03:00, david Jennette <dcjenn@bellsouth.net>: Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask
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Re: Antivirus software.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 08:20 PM, david Jennette wrote:
I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again.--------- It posted the first time, and you have received multiple responses. Check your spam folder and/or filters. You can review what has already been said here: https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/74722542 -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Antivirus software.
david Jennette
I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again. Sorry if you all get the message a second time. I’m wondering if windows defender is still the best antivirus software to use with jaws or if there are now other packages that are accessible now. I figured I’d ask because some time has passed and things might have changed. Thanks.
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Re: Antivirus software.
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 07:00 PM, David Griffith wrote:
What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completelyDavid, I cannot definitively say this is what happened here, but you need to familiarize yourself with the concept of the false positive, which all scanners occasionally have. Also, the site, virustotal.com, allows you to submit either a file by upload, or URLs that would download something, for scanning by over 70 engines. Unless you have a huge majority of these declaring something bad, you can be quite sure it's a false positive. It's not unusual to have up to 5 of the engines flag something that all the others do not. False positives simply happen. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 07:23 PM, Emre Rencber wrote:
Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard.Absolutely, positively incorrect. And it's been incorrect ever since the redesign of Windows Defender, now Windows Security, for Windows 8.1. I trust the testing of the labs that do this sort of thing a lot more than the pronouncements of random members on any forum/group. For those who want to see what the professionals who test this stuff repeatedly have to say, See the most recent plus the last several years of historical test results from: SE Labs (Reports Page) MRG Effitas (360 Protection Testing Category) -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
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Re: Antivirus software.
Emre Rencber
Windows defender is so accessible but it is'nt good guard. I recommend
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Kaspersky. But, there are very accessibility problem this software. Of course it is very very very good antivirus. 2020-06-07 1:37 GMT+03:00, david Jennette <dcjenn@bellsouth.net>:
Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do
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Re: Antivirus software.
David Griffith
I have heard a lot about how Windows Defender has improved. So much so I
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abandoned the ESET Smart security subscription I had because of deteriorating accessibility. I have however kept my old 1.7 version of Malwarebytes going and resisted program upgrade to maintain accessibility although I let the virus database keep up to date. Thank goodness I did. During the last week Malwarebytes identified a Trojan on my laptop that Windows Defender was completely oblivious of despite my performing a complete Windows Defender scan after the Malwarebytes alert. I turned to Windows Defender as Initially Malwarebytes was struggling and failing to quarantine this Trojan threat. On investigation it had infected one of the plug-in directories of Videoland VLC. Uninstalling VLC did not succeed in removing the offending files and predictably trying to delete these files manually also failed as Windows identified them as being used by another process. Eventually a full scan by Malwarebyte was able to remove this trojan from my registry in memory and I was finally able to also delete the offending VLC directories as a failsafe. What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely unaware of this problem and failed to react. David Griffith
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette Sent: 06 June 2020 23:37 To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Antivirus software. Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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Re: Antivirus software.
Pastor Gilbert Pries
Windows Defender works well. I use it and haven’t had any viruses.
Pastor Gil
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:37 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Antivirus software.
Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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Re: Antivirus software.
Lino Morales
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From: david Jennette
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:37 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Antivirus software.
Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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Antivirus software.
david Jennette
Hi. I’ve asked this a few years ago but I figured it’s time to ask again do to things changing. I’m wondering if Windows defender is still the most accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with Jaws. Thanks.
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Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
JM Casey
Well…what problems are you having? Is there any particular reason you feel your performance issues are related to jAWS?
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 5:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Hi group,
I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Norma A. Boge
Hi and thanks. I’ll give 2020 a try with my Win 8.1 PC, but I’m not too optimistic. I can’t even get optimal performance using J2020 with Windows 10. But, maybe I’ll get lucky…
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 3:14 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Hi group,
I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.
Thanks, Norma
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Re: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
JM Casey
Get the latest version, if you can. You can always still keep older versions on the computer in case you need them at a later time.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: June 6, 2020 11:50 AM To: list Jaws <jfw@groups.io> Subject: Best Jaws version with Win 8.1
Hi group,
I’d like a recommendation as to the version of Jaws which will give me optimal performance with Windows 8.1 pro.
Thanks, Norma
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