On Jun 3, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



We use Cisco Webex at my company.  I’ve had a frustration that I wonder if any other users have experience and have thoughts on. 

 

When I  click on a link to a meeting, my browser (Chrome), will open.  The meeting screen will load.  I will often hear JAWS say something like, “You are having trouble with the connection”, but pretty soon I can tab around some of the features, including the participant list.  I have enough vision to see that a window has popped up where the audio & video connection information is.  It used to be that focus would land in that window and I could tab through the options on where to  do my audio connection, then I would click the Audio Connection button for Webex to call my phone.  After some upgrade a while back, I typically cannot get focus into that window.  As I tab around the initial screen that loads, I’ll hear something called audio Connection checked, but hitting this doesn’t seem to do anything.  I hear reference to a “floating panel”, but cannot seem to get to it. My current workaround is that I go to the audio menu with Alt A and open the audio & video connection window from there.   This can take precious time when I’m about to run late to a meeting.    

 

Anyone else have a similar issue?

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

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Hi,

  You had Twain right except that the “I” stands for Informative . 

Also, with the latest Windows 10 update the JAWS OCR may not work properly and a JAWS repair may be needed.  This happened to me and JAWS could not see the scanner even though OpenBook still detected the scanner. 

Dan

Richard,

Yes.  No problem.  But I know I’ve had your frustration, I just don’t know what changed for me.  I was just pushed an office update here at work last week to Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.11929.20776

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Yes and i wait a little while to see the join button

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

That's what everyone is saying, Robin. You should be able to edit the signature field while you are in it. You shouldn't need to format the signature in Word, the email body, or somewhere else. The fact that you need to format the signature somewhere else says explicitly that the edit box is inaccessible.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

On Jun 3, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Richard. I have been able to use CONTROL plus A to select all text within the signature box, and then put in any new information. Even though the signature box does not read the content, CONTROL plus A should allow selection of the entire content of the dialog box, thus making it easily deletable by using the delete key one time, after the entire content of the signature box has been selected.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

 

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

 

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

I could I suppose have created an  entirely new signature, but that was not what I neded for work.

 

Very interesting.

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

 

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

 

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 1:26 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Or, do you have a trick for that other than getting someone with eyes that work?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

www.turner42.com

 

 

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

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OK, so you opened that edit box and edited an existing signature in that edit box without any issues?

On my Work machine, running Jaws 2020, Windows 10 Pro, and Outlook 2016, that edit box does not read at all with Jaws or Narrator.  NVDA will read the first line and that is it.

With sighted help, I can do what you said and write it in Word, then paste it in, but the sighted person has to delete the text of that one is there.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Richard,

I just tweaked one of my existing signatures without issue.  I find it most straight forward to shift tab past the Cancel and OK buttons to the edit field.  This is what JAWS tells me when I do that:

Cancel
OK Button‑
Edit signature

Alt Tl
Signatures and Stationery

So, it’s a bit verbose as it lands in that edit field, which is the first shift tab after the OK button.  I typically type and format the signature as I want it in Word or in the email body, then cut and paste it into the edit box. 

The list of signatures you have created seems to be the found as a list with one tab from when the dialog opens.  There is a lot of clutter between this list and the edit box, which is why shift tabbing  works best.  H

HTH,

Robin

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

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On 4 Jun 2020, at 5:07 am, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



We use Cisco Webex at my company.  I’ve had a frustration that I wonder if any other users have experience and have thoughts on. 

 

When I  click on a link to a meeting, my browser (Chrome), will open.  The meeting screen will load.  I will often hear JAWS say something like, “You are having trouble with the connection”, but pretty soon I can tab around some of the features, including the participant list.  I have enough vision to see that a window has popped up where the audio & video connection information is.  It used to be that focus would land in that window and I could tab through the options on where to  do my audio connection, then I would click the Audio Connection button for Webex to call my phone.  After some upgrade a while back, I typically cannot get focus into that window.  As I tab around the initial screen that loads, I’ll hear something called audio Connection checked, but hitting this doesn’t seem to do anything.  I hear reference to a “floating panel”, but cannot seem to get to it. My current workaround is that I go to the audio menu with Alt A and open the audio & video connection window from there.   This can take precious time when I’m about to run late to a meeting.    

 

Anyone else have a similar issue?

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2019, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

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Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

Now if the Outlook engineers would only make the edit box for creating your signature accessible ... it isn't as far as I can tell.

On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Cook, Steve <Steve.Cook@...> wrote:



You can also use Alt M and then choose your signature.

 

Thank You,

Steve Cook, CPM

Assistive Technology Consultant

SC Commission for the Blind

1430 Confederate avenue

Columbia, SC 29201

Office: (803) 898-8788

Cell: (803) 908-3856

1-888-335-5951                        

www.sccb.state.sc.us

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 3:16 PM
To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: [External] cool trick with signatures in Outlook

 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

 

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

 

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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I’m curious if one can find any announcements of specials that Freedom Scientific is offering this summer.  They usually do offer some sort of discount, and I have seen somewhere plans to do so, but the last FSCast didn’t reveal them. 

I accidentally discovered a cool trick in Outlook.  If you have more than one type of  email signature, based on the audience of your email, I thought we  had to go select the one we wanted each time from the Insert Ribbon under signatures.  Here’s the trick, as long as you have a default signature in any new email you create, you can simply arrow down into that signature text and open the context menu.  The list of your signatures are right there for you to select from and the whole thing will quickly update.   Sometimes the Outlook developers surprise me with the shortcuts they code.

Using Windows 10, JAWS 2020, Office 365

Robin Van Lant

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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