Creating a Graphic Label Manually

Hi Dan,

Yes, this is exactly my problem.
The information is being read even if it cannot be seen.
I am using an old version of office, but i have the latest update for adobe
reader.
Is there any way that you know of, to have only those words read out that
are visible?
My problem is, that when i save something to send to someone else, i think,
that the formatting is all right, as jaws reads everything.
Its only when someone asks "where is my info" that i find out it is not
there.
I tried saving it as a web page, but this is of little use either.
I read somewhere on the web, that if you select the entire work sheet and
then paste it into word, it creates a table.
Yes it does, and jaws reads it out, but if there is too much text in the
table column, it is wrapped in a way, that the first line of text seems to
belong to the column above it.
Again, this can only be verified by someone who can see it.

pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan
Longmore
Sent: Wednesday 15 July 2020 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdf documents with jaws.

The screen reader will always read all of the text in an XL column even if
the column is truncated and the words are not visible.

Hi All,

Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop.  We just started using it at work.   Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive.  Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to  keep offline copies of?  The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works.   Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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According to Eric Damery and Glen Gordon in today's NFB meeting on JAWS, Mozilla is aware of this issue which was caused inadvertently by them in the Firefox 78.x update and it should be fixed when version 79 is released on the 28th of this month.

Alan Lemly

I'm thinking 78.0.2 is crashing less than 78.0.1 but still definitely not good! I'm using Chrome a lot more now, or else using Firefox with NVDA. I tried Jaws 2019 and 2020 and they both crash often with latest Firefox.

78.02 which is now the latest version, also crashes, I mostly use the new Chromium based Edge for the most part.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2020 9:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

It crashed occasionally before 78.0.1 but it was a tolerable level of wankiness. This update is definitely unveiling something nasty. Mozilla apparently had a twitter back and forth trying to reproduce this bug and it was a tricky one to both find and solve. I guess we wait for next update, which with FF…should be soon.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: July 12, 2020 4:59 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

For what it’s worth, I have JAWS 2020 and I have stopped using Firefox for the most part because it crashes frequently. I spoke with tech support at Freedom Scientific who told me they are well aware of it.

 

 

Shirley Tracy

 

From: JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2020 2:43 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Any thoughts on getting latest version of Firefox (78.0.1) to work better with older JFW (2018)?

 

Hey folks. Yes, I know JAWS 2018 is behind the curve, now, and that an upgrade would be beneficial. However, I’m not in a position to upgrade at this time. At the risk of running a huge struggle to continue using outdated software, I would like to know if anybody has any ideas of configuration settings that might make Firefox less crashy using this screen-reader. I know its’ an issue between interaction with JAWS and firefox and, frankly, always has been since the advent of Quantum. I tested this with nVDA (2019.3 and 2020.1) and it’s a lot less crashy. In fact I have failed to make Firefox crash even once using this other screen-reader. I know some users of JAWS 2020 have reported crashes, too, but I’m unable to test that currently and at a guess, newer versions of JFW should probably work better as well as NVDA. Anyway, since I’m not looking to downgrade firefox and not quite ready to either upgrade or give up JFW for the web browsing experience, in part because it works so nicely with my Focus braille display, just wondering if there are any flags/options I can alter in about:preferences or about:config (firefox’s “hidden” advanced settings page containing literally thousands of configurable options) that might help me have a smoother experience. Right now, since FF updated to 78.0.1 a week or two ago, everything from wikipedia pages to my old wisp’s webmail is crashing tabs. This only happens when jFW is running.

 

NB: I’m aware of other browsers  and use them, so no need to suggest just switching browsers. Thanks!!

 

 

 

I too, prefer using one drive over drop box. I used drop box mainly to send files to people. Then I found out I could do the same with one drive just by providing a link to my one drive and the item they needed. Drop box was costing me $150 per year for 2 or 3 Tbs, far more then what I needed, one drive gives you 1 TB of storage and is included in office 365, which only cost $119. Per year.

Maybe not. Maybe it just need someone to have a quick look at its Windows Update screen, or the event logger. I can do some of that for you via a screenreader connection, JAWS Tandem or NVDA Remote, your choice. I can't guarantee a solution, but another pair of ears on a problem is never a bad thing.

I did mean 2004. I guess I will have to hire someone to fix this problem. The 2004 update is not here. This computer was bought new in 2018.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

 

19-09 update? Don't you mean 20-04?

 

Try this:

 

1. Press Windows Key + Shift +I to open the Windows Settings pane.

2. In the search field, type update and press the Down Arrow Key until you hear "Windows update," then press ENTER.

 

You're now in the dialog where you can do things like check for updates, pause updates for seven days, etc.

 

If you press the "Check for updates" button and your system tells you you're up to date, then there's something either on or in your system that can't be updated to the latest version of Windows 10, or any later versions than your current version for that matter.

 

You also may not be getting updated because during the hours you've chosen for those updates to be applied, your computer is off or offline. You can force the update(s) to happen by tabbing through the updates dialog and finding a list of available updates chosen for your system, then tabbing to the download or "install" button immediately after that list.

 

HTH

 

On 7/14/2020 6:17 PM, Gary Ketler wrote:

I never received the 1909 updates. I guess I’m out of luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:40 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

 

There's nothing to check. Updates are no longer an option in Windows 10.

That is, you can't say you don't want them. The best you can cd is pause

them for seven days.

 

 

On 7/14/2020 4:23 PM, Madison Martin wrote:

> How do I check to see if automatic updates are inabled?

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee

> Sent: July 14, 2020 3:21 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Windows 10 question

> 

> Hi,

> The fastest way to find out what Windows 10 release you are using is: Start

> menu, type "winver" (without quotes) and press Enter. Listen to the line that

> starts with "Version".

> As for automatic updates: yes, it is advised to keep this enabled. In the past,

> people gave conflicting advice in regards to keeping automatic updates on or

> off, mainly because of concern that you may find yourself upgraded to more

> recent Windows 10 release (termed "feature updates"). Times have changed since

> then - Microsoft will not install new Windows 10 feature updates (releases)

> unless your system (hardware and software) is deemed compatible with the new

> update.

> Although the following will not directly address automatic updates question

> posed, it provides a short overview on what is happening with feature updates

> (source: the Win10 forum I mentioned earlier):

> https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/45181?p=,,,100,0,0,0::Created,,featu

> re+updates,100,2,0,74554449

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin

> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 1:11 PM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Windows 10 question

> 

> Hi again all,

> Can someone please tell me how to find out what vertion of Windows 10 I'm

> running? Just curious to know that's all. Also, should I have automatic updates

> turned on? Thanks Madison

 

Hi Dan,

Yes, this is exactly my problem.
The information is being read even if it cannot be seen.
I am using an old version of office, but i have the latest update for adobe
reader.
Is there any way that you know of, to have only those words read out that
are visible?
My problem is, that when i save something to send to someone else, i think,
that the formatting is all right, as jaws reads everything.
Its only when someone asks "where is my info" that i find out it is not
there.
I tried saving it as a web page, but this is of little use either.
I read somewhere on the web, that if you select the entire work sheet and
then paste it into word, it creates a table.
Yes it does, and jaws reads it out, but if there is too much text in the
table column, it is wrapped in a way, that the first line of text seems to
belong to the column above it.
Again, this can only be verified by someone who can see it.

pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan
Longmore
Sent: Wednesday 15 July 2020 19:36
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: reading pdf documents with jaws.

The screen reader will always read all of the text in an XL column even if
the column is truncated and the words are not visible.

I use oneDrive at home with my Microsoft 365 plan.

I believe you have a choice to store everything on your local drive, but even if it is in the cloud, you can opt to make it available off line.

In fact, if it is in the cloud and you open it locally, it gets made available off line automatically I think.

I’ve not notice any lag in opening files or anything.

I can access my files from my iPhone anywhere this way, which I like.

And after the latest DropBox update, I’m inclined to just use OneDrive.

I get 1 TB of storage with my Microsoft 365 and likely won’t ever come close to that amount.

My wife, who also is using the Microsoft 365 subscription also has her own 1 TB of space from the one subscription.

I think it works great and is easier than the current DropBox on my computer.

Hi All,

Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop.  We just started using it at work.   Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive.  Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to  keep offline copies of?  The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works.   Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

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On 15 Jul 2020, at 17:20, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop.  We just started using it at work.   Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive.  Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to  keep offline copies of?  The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works.   Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

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I really like one drive and find it easier than dropbox. I can access my files and make them available off-line if I wish. The one drive account is always available on the computer from which I said it up and I can access the one drive files from any device once I sign into OneDrive from that other device such as my phone.

On Jul 15, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:



Hi All,

Microsoft keeps prompting me to think about using One Drive on my home laptop.  We just started using it at work.   Can someone explain to me if One Drive is like DropBox in that I can store my files on my hard drive and choose which files to move to One Drive.  Or, if I enable One Drive, will all my files be transitioned to One Drive and I’ll have to flag which ones I want to  keep offline copies of?  The latter is how we do it at work, but since I didn’t set it up on my work laptop, I’m not sure if I have a choice on my personal laptop as to how One Drive works.   Just a little flustered about changing how I do things and being able to find my files.

 

Robin Van Lant, Sr. Program Manager - Sales Enablement

Key Equipment Finance & Key Institutional Bank

720-304-1060

 

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy. This communication may contain nonpublic personal information about consumers subject to the restrictions of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. You may not directly or indirectly reuse or redisclose such information for any purpose other than to provide the services for which you are receiving the information.

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