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moderated Jaws2020 New notification question

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi All I have jaws2020  and desktop and laptop computer Window10 !! When I opens google chrome  browser  on desktop  computer and go on m.facebook.com  or messenger.com  website  whenever someone post or send me a message  I have been hearing google announced  saying google chrome new notification  Walton Jones comment on my post  when I close out google chrome browser  I went on desktop by pressing window key + m  I heard it’s say new notification  on desktop computer  then the same things on Laptop computer too. Does anybody know why it’s saying new notification everytime I opened google chrome browser ?

 

Also when I opened firefox browser  to go on any website  including facebook  then when I close out firefox browser  then press window key +  m to desktop  I hear jaws say new notification  too. Why is 2 browser saying new notification  everytime  on desktop after closing both browser?

Addison


moderated Re: problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

 

Have you reported it to Vispero ro called their technical support?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Shumate
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

I see this same issue.
I just go up into the links list and hit I until it says inbox.
Then I go to the message I replied to if it's there and then enter on it and hit B for Buttons until I get to the delete button and delete the Message.
Laura Shumate
larelishumate@gmail.com
If you need Android or Jaws for windows Support: Call 254-300-7667



On 11/21/20, Jim Ruby <jimruby67@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Since upgrading from jaws 2020 to jaws 2021 wen replying to email
jaws don't behave like it did in 2020.

when I finish a reply and click send jaws does not update and I still
see my message in the edit field and I can not click on any links, it
does nothing.

steps.

open gmail
use the html view
click on a message
go down to the reply edit field and enter a message and click send

At this point jaws breaks or at least is no longer responding like it
did in 2020

In jaws 2020

you would hear message sent and the reply edit field would be empty
and you could go down and click the link to return the the mail box
you were working in such as in box.

If I go back to jaws 2020 it works as expected.

Anyone else noticing this?






--


moderated Re: Jaws question

 

The checkbox to run Jaws from the system tray has been there for a very, very long time, I have been a Jawsuser since the Jaws for DOS version 1.something in 1989, used the first Jaws versions to support Windows 3.1 and 3.11 and then the Jaws for Windows we know today which started with Windows 95 so I honestly can't remember if it's been there for 10 years or 15 or 20, but I am pretty sure that certainly since Windows XP its been there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws question

Hi, in the 2021 version under the basics settings there is a checkbox to determine if jaws appears in the system tray. If unchecked jaws comes up on the taskbar which is the default


moderated Re: Usin Standard View in GMAIL

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Brian. Try,

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian albriton
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Usin Standard View in GMAIL

I am not familiar with these keyboard commands where would I find them? All the best brian

On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:57 PM, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks
On 14-Nov-2020, at 11:52 PM, Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello,
I have found from the documentation and then testing that you have to type the star (asterisk) followed very quickly by a to select all conversations. The reverse of this is star N.
There is the possibility of changing this setting but the table to modify keyboard shortcuts is not veery intuitive.
Jonathan


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:10, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I have enabled the Keyboard commands in Standard View. However, they
are not working. For instance, after choosing mails received from a
Sender 'through the search function' I wish to delete all of them at
once. However, the * command for 'selecting all mails' is not working.
Other commands such as 'e' for archive are also not working.
What mistake am I making?
Thanking you
Best
Turab












moderated Re: problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

Shan Noyes
 

The one suggestion I might make would be try it with the interface with a different browser it might help you out not sure though because I don’t use Gmail that way but I do know that from experience different browsers do react differently to HTML document when you’re working with things like jaws and NVDA Have a good day Shan

On Nov 21, 2020, at 11:16 AM, Jim Ruby <jimruby67@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Since upgrading from jaws 2020 to jaws 2021 wen replying to email
jaws don't behave like it did in 2020.

when I finish a reply and click send jaws does not update and I still
see my message in the edit field and I can not click on any links, it
does nothing.

steps.

open gmail
use the html view
click on a message
go down to the reply edit field and enter a message and click send

At this point jaws breaks or at least is no longer responding like it
did in 2020

In jaws 2020

you would hear message sent and the reply edit field would be empty
and you could go down and click the link to return the the mail box
you were working in such as in box.

If I go back to jaws 2020 it works as expected.

Anyone else noticing this?





moderated Re: Usin Standard View in GMAIL

brian albriton
 

I am not familiar with these keyboard commands where would I find them? All the best brian

On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:57 PM, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks
On 14-Nov-2020, at 11:52 PM, Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io <jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello,
I have found from the documentation and then testing that you have to type the star (asterisk) followed very quickly by a to select all conversations. The reverse of this is star N.
There is the possibility of changing this setting but the table to modify keyboard shortcuts is not veery intuitive.
Jonathan


On Nov 14, 2020, at 08:10, turab chimthanawala <turabhvc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I have enabled the Keyboard commands in Standard View. However, they
are not working. For instance, after choosing mails received from a
Sender 'through the search function' I wish to delete all of them at
once. However, the * command for 'selecting all mails' is not working.
Other commands such as 'e' for archive are also not working.
What mistake am I making?
Thanking you
Best
Turab












moderated Re: Additional info for my previous inquiry

Richard Turner
 

What are you expecting to hear with insert+tab?

The Jaws help says that command “JAWSKey+Tab Says the current window and the associated prompt label.”

 

I’m guessing that is the associated prompt.

 

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:24 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Additional info for my previous inquiry

 

The Jaws message is being spoken every time I use Insert + tab to check where I’m at. Thanks.

 


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

T. Civitello
 

To each his own. I am still using WLM in Win 10 and 7 and haven’t had any problems. As far as the Registry program, I have had Registry First Aid on my Win 7 PC for  3 years and it runs once a week and has caused no problems, Haven’t tried it on Win 10. I used it originally to remove some previous bits of a previous installation that was blocking the installation of WLM 12, and it worked. As I said, To each his own.   I don’t recommend a registry program jus telling what I did in desperation. Tom
 

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.
 
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:31 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Try one of the registry cleaner programs.
-
No, no, no, no, no - a thousand times NO!  Any professional tech will tell you to avoid these like the plague, and Microsoft agrees:  Microsoft support policy for the use of registry cleaning utilities

One of the most risky things you can do is to use a registry cleaning program, and I have encountered machines that were sufficiently damaged by same that the only option was a completely clean reinstall of whatever version of Windows happened to be running on it at the time.

Windows Live Mail 2012 has been becoming more and more problematic in recent months, and well before Version 2004 of Windows 10, but if you want to see a confirmation that it is becoming even more so, have a look at this topic on Technibble, a tech support group for computer techs only, and where a temporary solution is mentioned:  Windows 2004 breaks Windows Live Mail.  You'll see my response, too, where I say this development has presented me with an opportunity to force the issue of moving away from Windows Live Mail.  I loved WLM, for many years, and even after it was out of support, but it's now becoming one problem after another to keep going, and it's really not a good idea to use something like an email client, that's constantly in contact with cyberspace, when security patches are no longer being done.  Moving on to something else is the thing to do, and there are many options.  All software has a finite shelf life.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 06:31 PM, T. Civitello wrote:
Try one of the registry cleaner programs. 
-
No, no, no, no, no - a thousand times NO!  Any professional tech will tell you to avoid these like the plague, and Microsoft agrees:  Microsoft support policy for the use of registry cleaning utilities

One of the most risky things you can do is to use a registry cleaning program, and I have encountered machines that were sufficiently damaged by same that the only option was a completely clean reinstall of whatever version of Windows happened to be running on it at the time.

Windows Live Mail 2012 has been becoming more and more problematic in recent months, and well before Version 2004 of Windows 10, but if you want to see a confirmation that it is becoming even more so, have a look at this topic on Technibble, a tech support group for computer techs only, and where a temporary solution is mentioned:  Windows 2004 breaks Windows Live Mail.  You'll see my response, too, where I say this development has presented me with an opportunity to force the issue of moving away from Windows Live Mail.  I loved WLM, for many years, and even after it was out of support, but it's now becoming one problem after another to keep going, and it's really not a good idea to use something like an email client, that's constantly in contact with cyberspace, when security patches are no longer being done.  Moving on to something else is the thing to do, and there are many options.  All software has a finite shelf life.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws question

Dan Longmore
 

Hi, in the 2021 version under the basics settings there is a checkbox to determine if jaws appears in the system tray. If unchecked jaws comes up on the taskbar which is the default


moderated Re: Jaws question

 

David,

           I don't exactly know how to describe what is very often called the system tray, also known as the notification area under Windows 10, other than to say it's a part of the taskbar, and located to the right side of the taskbar in its own section.  Windows Key+B has the shortcut to throw focus to it for a very long time.  Under Windows 10 the first item will always be the overflow area chevron, which gets announced a couple of different ways depending on the screen reader, and where icons that you don't want to have to deal with all the time get tucked.  The ones you do want to have in the notification area all the time are shown to the right of the overflow area chevron.

            I can't remember now which JAWS setting it is that controls whether the JAWS window will appear in the taskbar items that you can get to via ALT+TAB to cycle through them, versus in the system tray/notification area.  I know it exists, and even dealt with it recently, but I can't recall its location in the JAWS settings at the moment and don't have JAWS 2021 handy to check to see where it is.  Unless they've changed something recently I believe that the JAWS window will appear on the taskbar unless you tweak the setting that says to run it from the system tray.  I could, of course, be remembering the default state incorrectly.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Jaws question

JM Casey
 

It's just a way of accessing certain information or programmes that tend to
run in the background. If you don't have JAWS set to have its own window
open all the time, it will appear in the system tray. Whether its there or
not is really up to your personal preference.

Where is JAWS located? On your hard drive? It should mostly be within
c:\program files\freedom scientific. Though it does leave stuff in several
folders and in your user profile, that's where the main executable files
should be.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Pearson
Sent: November 21, 2020 06:23 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Jaws question

Hello list:

What, exactly, is the "system tray", and is thiswhere my Jaws 2021 program
should be located?

Lastly, how do I tell where my 2021 Jaws is located?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

T. Civitello
 

I have been following this thread and have two suggestions. 1. Call Freedom Scientific Monday morning. They will get into your computer remotely and resolve the problem.    2. Try one of the registry cleaner programs.  I had a problem where Windows Live Mail would not install for me. I scoured the Internet and followed the suggestion to use a registry cleaner program, tried it and it worked.  Tom
 

From: Loy
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.
 
Have you tried to redownload the JAWS 2021 file again. It should install weather you have a license or not.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Additional info for my previous inquiry

Norma A. Boge
 

The Jaws message is being spoken every time I use Insert + tab to check where I’m at. Thanks.

 


moderated Jaws question

David Pearson
 

Hello list:

What, exactly, is the "system tray", and is thiswhere my Jaws 2021 program should be located?

Lastly, how do I tell where my 2021 Jaws is located?

Thank you,



David S. Pearson


moderated Jaws too verbose with Zoom

Norma A. Boge
 

Hi group,

 

I’m using Jaws 2020.2008.24 on my Win 10 PC. There are times, When tabbing around in Zoom, Jaws says “Alerts Enabled.
Chat Messages captured only”

before identifying what is currently in focus.

This has been happening since I began using Zoom in April. Would someone please let me know what I need to do to get rid of this message.

  

Thanks,

Norma

 


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

Loy <loyrg2845@...>
 


Have you tried to redownload the JAWS 2021 file again. It should install weather you have a license or not.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Rawls
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: more on my jaws issue.

Jim Rawls
 

I did exactly that, and they told me to go to FS for help, because they said it was a jaws issue.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

If you have a smart phone with Be My Eyes you can call the Microsoft disability desk with it and then they can help you. I had them to help me change a setting in my BIOS  using the Be My Eyes app.

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 9:27 PM

Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Microsoft can't help him boot in safe mode. They don't have any control of his computer in safe mode.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 6:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Maybe he needs to reboot in safe mode and manually delete that empty folder?Or call Microsoft Accessibility and get help doing that.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert



On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Kevin. There is no longer a separate 32 and 64-bit installer for JAWS. It is all contained in one installer. Jim is getting an error which just says, "Install Failed".

 

One thing Jim neglected to tell you is that There is an entry for JAWS 21 under programs and Features with nothing in it, and it won't uninstall.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi.

 

Something to check is whether you have the 32 or 64 bit version of the installer, and make sure it matches your Windows OS.

 

Hope this helps.

Kevin and Jilly, the very empathic, flying doggie

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 8:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: more on my jaws issue.

 

What error are you getting?

 

Have you tried unloading Jaws 2019 with insert+f4 and running Narrator while you install 2021?

,

 

 

Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.

There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

--Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 

*I’m not the card shark

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Rawls
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:01 PM
To: jfw-users@groups.io
Subject: more on my jaws issue.

 

Hi all, I cannot install jaws 2021. I am authorized to have it, but it will not install. I downloaded it to my download folder, and that's as far as it goes.

I wrote to FS, and they gave me a case number, and I haven't heard from them since. Since I am authorized to have it, why won't it installs? I know a lot of you have a lot more knowledge about this kind of thing, so if you have some ideas, I would appreciate them. I am running jaws 19 at the moment on a windows ten computer. Jim


moderated Re: Forms mode: your preferences

Cohn, Jonathan
 

I really  dislike automatic, too many times, I have found that automatic turns off forms mode when I don't want it too. Either because I moved passed the end of what I was inputting, or because Javascript code changed something in the input area and forms mode flipped out. I usually, use semi-automatic except in places where I have overridden it with manual. The hardest part about manual forms mode is that if you let somebody else use your computer, they have the hardest time with the fact that when you click on an input field, and then type aa character it is grabbed by the Virtual Cursor and JAWS moves somewhere else.


On Nov 20, 2020, at 20:57, Mark <mweiler@...> wrote:

When it comes to forms mode, what are your preferences for settings: manual, automatic, semi-automatic? And any particular reasons for your preference? Mine is set to automatic but I'm now wondering if there might be something better.  I'd like to hear others have to say, while I experiment.


moderated Re: problem with jaws 2021 sending email with gmail - ms edge

Laura Shumate <larelishumate@...>
 

I see this same issue.
I just go up into the links list and hit I until it says inbox.
Then I go to the message I replied to if it's there and then enter on
it and hit B for Buttons until I get to the delete button and delete
the Message.
Laura Shumate
larelishumate@gmail.com
If you need Android or Jaws for windows Support: Call 254-300-7667



On 11/21/20, Jim Ruby <jimruby67@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Since upgrading from jaws 2020 to jaws 2021 wen replying to email
jaws don't behave like it did in 2020.

when I finish a reply and click send jaws does not update and I still
see my message in the edit field and I can not click on any links, it
does nothing.

steps.

open gmail
use the html view
click on a message
go down to the reply edit field and enter a message and click send

At this point jaws breaks or at least is no longer responding like it
did in 2020

In jaws 2020

you would hear message sent and the reply edit field would be empty
and you could go down and click the link to return the the mail box
you were working in such as in box.

If I go back to jaws 2020 it works as expected.

Anyone else noticing this?






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