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moderated Re: browsers

 

The original Edge released with Windows 10 was not Chromium-based, thus people speak of Chromium-based Edge to differentiate the new (and current) stable-version Edge from original Edge, which is what is still on the vast majority of Windows 10 machines unless the user has downloaded and installed the stable version of new Microsoft Edge or one of the three insider channel versions, which are testing versions for what will eventually come to the stable version.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: browsers

Judy
 

Thanks Bill, that’s all I wanted to know since a couple people kept calling one chromium-edge I just wondered. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 2:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: browsers

 

Hi, Judy. As Brian said, a Chromium browser is one that is written in a specific code (Chromium). That being said, what is also meant is that Chromium browsers, (Edge, Firefox, Waterfox, Google Chrome, etc.) have a general look and feel to them. If you use one of them, and then install and use another Chromium browser, they all seem to look and feel similar as you use them.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:51 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: browsers

 

Hi, what do you mean by chromium-based browsers? Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: browsers

 

Brave is an excellent choice, and its built in ad blocking and privacy features make it ideal for a screen reader user.

You can do a web search on whatever browser it is you want to download, along with the word download, and it's almost certain to be the first result returned.

Brave, the Chrome browser, and new Chromium-based Edge are all based on Chromium, and, thus, are very, very similar to use.  If you know one of them well, you know at least 90%, if not more, of what you need to know to jump in to the others.

Waterfox is a spin-off of Firefox.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Blank Line Keystroke

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi Mike,
In word processors, the new line is shown as \n
It might depend on which program you are reading in.
For example, when I am using notepad ++ and I want to remove blank lines, I do a search and replace for \n
two in a row may represent a blank line where \n alone may represent the beginning of a new line.
Not sure if Jaws would look for this in the hidden characters though.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
To: JList
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 6:43 PM
Subject: Blank Line Keystroke

Howdy All,
 
Does anyone know if there's a keystroke that will take you to the next blank line?  And if so, what is this keystroke?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.


moderated Resolution to my Jaws2020 and Outlook 2016 issues

Alan Robbins
 

Hello group,

 

With some helpful suggestions from list member Mike B. I have resolved the issue I wrote about last week Jaws was reading all types of gratuitous information in emails.

Anyway Mike reminded me of the layered Jaws command (insert, spacebar, then letter Z) This puts Jaws into default mode with no altered settings I made. As soon as I did this there were no issues with reading any type email. At this point I knew somehow my settings in Jaws 2020 had become changed or corrupted in some manner. So, I exported my settings from Jaws 2019 and imported them into 2020 with the replace command rather than the merge setting. Jaws 2020 now reads emails correctly like my Jaws 2019 did. So if you find yourself having issues with Jaws all of a sudden for some unknown reason try that layered command to see if JAWS still does that in default mode. Incidentally, that keystroke is a toggle so doing it again puts you back to regular JAWS

 

Thanks,

Al


moderated Blank Line Keystroke

Mike B
 

Howdy All,
 
Does anyone know if there's a keystroke that will take you to the next blank line?  And if so, what is this keystroke?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

John Covici
 

I am afraid its not cheap, maybe $200 for the quickbooks and something
for the scripts, not sure of the price.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 12:00:28 -0400,
Jenni Kent wrote:

Where do I get that and how much does it cost. I am on an extreme budget.
And was hoping for fifty and under. I will and grab those scripts


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Quickbooks can do what you want, although you do need scripts from
myblindspot.com and its not perfect, even then, but it should work, and
although I have not used it, the online version is supposed to be more
accessible.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:37:18 -0400,
Jenni Kent wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my
online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it
actually works with jaws and doesn't have outdated scripts from 2003.

My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just
weren't for me. I am not good with excel I just don't know how to
operate it with jaws. I will be honest.

So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent
off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program
is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that's
with nvda and jaws
2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what
a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said
there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes.
Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know
of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank
automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken
wouldn't even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am
not happy right now.

Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head.





Jennifer Kent

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Skype: lightsrage

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moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni Kent
 

Yeah accept I cant get the banking file in the banking grid I had to import it into the registery and my bank doesn’t show pending transactions in my stuff or at least it didn’t in mine. If it had loaded the entire file it would have had five months of transactions in the file. But that’s ok I will get this all done on Monday and reconcile it on Monday or whenever they get me my code.

Its actually fun doing this tracking how much money  I spend on useless stuff.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

No, they are not open today.

From your message, I thought you had no idea then how to get it.

So, did his demo meet your needs?

 

Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."

 

Sent with the iPhone SE 2020

 



On May 2, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Jenni Kent <jennipalmer@...> wrote:

Yes, on Monday I doubt they are open today. Its Saturday.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

cann you give them a call?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:jennipalmer@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 4:36 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible!
quicken sure was not.
_I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it
online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found._

__

__

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last
updated.

Alan Lemly

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn't been updated in a decade. How long has it been for
the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see
if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each
and every passing message.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

/The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./
        ~ Lawrence Krauss











moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Richard Turner
 

No, they are not open today.
From your message, I thought you had no idea then how to get it.
So, did his demo meet your needs?


Richard

Linus to Charlie Brown: "Worrying won't stop the bad stuff from happening, it just stops you from enjoying the good."


Sent with the iPhone SE 2020
www.turner42.com


On May 2, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Jenni Kent <jennipalmer@...> wrote:

Yes, on Monday I doubt they are open today. Its Saturday.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

cann you give them a call?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:jennipalmer@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 4:36 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible!
quicken sure was not.
_I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it
online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found._

__

__

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last
updated.

Alan Lemly

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn't been updated in a decade. How long has it been for
the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see
if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each
and every passing message.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

/The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./
        ~ Lawrence Krauss












moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni Kent
 

Yes, on Monday I doubt they are open today. Its Saturday.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

cann you give them a call?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:@lightsrage]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 4:36 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible!
quicken sure was not.
_I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it
online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found._

__

__

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last
updated.

Alan Lemly

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn't been updated in a decade. How long has it been for
the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care. There is a free demo you can download to see
if it meets your needs or not. That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each
and every passing message.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

/The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./
~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Mario
 

cann you give them a call?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:@lightsrage]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 4:36 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
_I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot
purchase it online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page
not found._

__

__

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was
last updated.

Alan Lemly

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it
been for the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download
to see if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for
others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with
each and every passing message.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

/The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I had to call APH on the phone a few months back when I purchased Money Talks. Use the number (800) 223-1839. And you're just going to have to be patient because they don't have an online ordering system for purchasing their software.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 3:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last updated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each and every passing message.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Richard Turner
 

From their web site:

Purchase the software through Digital Download. Download the demonstration version of the software from our website (http://tech.aph.org/

Then call our toll free number, (1-800-223-1839), and give us your credit card number. Within 24 hours, we will give you a code key that transforms your demo copy of the software into a full copy.

 

HTH,

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jenni Kent
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 1:36 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last updated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each and every passing message.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni Kent
 

I am discovering that however I am also discovering that I cannot purchase it online. I clicked the purchase link and it sorta said page not found.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last updated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each and every passing message.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I'm with Brian. Money Talks works very well regardless of when it was last updated.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:

The manual for that hasn’t been updated in a decade. How long has it been for the software?

I don't know, and nor do I care.  There is a free demo you can download to see if it meets your needs or not.  That's your work to do, not for others to do.

And, please, for the love of heaven, stop using a new, weird font with each and every passing message.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss


moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

 

I'm with Mario regarding Money Talks and how accessible it is. I'm not sure you can connect directly your bank online with it but if your bank allows you to download transactions in the proper format, Money Talks can import them. I do this with my credit card company every month. APH has been updating its website so try the following link to read about Money Talks:

https://www.aph.org/product/money-talks-bank-account-management-software-digital-download/

Also, APH has a very helpful Money Talks user manual in html format which you can access here:

https://tech.aph.org/mt_info.htm

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni, here's the solution that might be what you're looking for:

Money Talks is a completely accessible bank account management software package developed by American Printing House (APH). This software package offers the user a simple and effective means of recording and maintaining accurate information for a variety of accounts. The user can import and use electronic banking information to reconcile accounts, remember the last workspace used in the program, emboss or print the check register in a variety of formats, and print many types of bank checks. Can be used with a screen reader or with its own self-voicing feature.

https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_MoneyTalks:BankAccountManagementSoftware_1146012P_10001_11051

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:@lightsrage]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:00 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.
Where do I get that and how much does it cost. I am on an extreme budget.
And was hoping for fifty and under. I will and grab those scripts


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Quickbooks can do what you want, although you do need scripts from
myblindspot.com and its not perfect, even then, but it should work, and
although I have not used it, the online version is supposed to be more
accessible.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:37:18 -0400,
Jenni Kent wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my
online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it
actually works with jaws and doesn't have outdated scripts from 2003.

My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just
weren't for me. I am not good with excel I just don't know how to
operate it with jaws. I will be honest.

So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent
off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program
is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that's
with nvda and jaws
2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what
a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said
there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes.
Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know
of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank
automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken
wouldn't even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am
not happy right now.

Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head.





Jennifer Kent

iMessage: lightsrage@... <mailto:lightsrage@...>

Skype: lightsrage

Whatsapp: Ask.

Telegram: ask

Twitter: lights_rage

Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage






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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...








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moderated Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Rick Mladek
 

I am using Pro, sorry...

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hi,

the group policy editor is only available in windows 10 professional addition.
there is nothing like it in windows 10 home edition.
pat



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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 18:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Sieghard,

Where do we find this setting?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hello Pat,

I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws.
I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting.
I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hi,

Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10.
Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything.
Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it.
God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software.
I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Patrick Murphy
 

i think in general, jaws 2020 has a lot to answer.
In the short time i have been using it, i have had nothing but trouble with it.
in my opinion, freedom scientific need to put a lot more resources into their testing. it is becoming sloppy.
they spend a lot of time telling everyone how good their product is, but have a good look!!
all their training material is written with accessibility in mind, obviously.
i would accept their standing on the fact that they cannot test for every app out there, but some of the larger ones like netflix have been given no testing at all.
try plugging in a set of headfones into a del inspiron laptop. they run the realtec drivers for audio.
once you plug anything into the jack, you are asked by windows, what it is, mick headfones etc.
if you try to scroll down the control, you will hear things like "ms-web-****" where "****" is a number, set of letters etc.
lets face it, this is basic testing.
there is too much pride in being the market leader in my opinion. this will change, if they dont test more before releasing something. that is exactly what microsoft appears to do with windows. lets have windows 10, and then about 10 million updates to secure it afterwards.
i really think, given the burst of technology especially in the last few years, that people such as ourselves should keep comparing the latest versions of things such as jaws, with the latest versions of free software such as nvda.
pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 18:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I found the March 2020 update to be quite buggy. Mainly my Outlook 22016 calendar slowing down something terrible and Jaws saying table in cells in Word documents and just little stuff here and there.
I think the table thing is gone with the most recent April update, but haven't used it enough to say if the Outlook calendar thing was addressed.

Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 9:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hello Pat,

I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws.
I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting.
I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hi,

Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10.
Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything.
Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it.
God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software.
I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

the group policy editor is only available in windows 10 professional addition.
there is nothing like it in windows 10 home edition.
pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 18:58
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Sieghard,

Where do we find this setting?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Sieghard, could you tell us what the group policy item was, or point to the post? I'm curious as to what it might have been.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday 2 May 2020 16:54
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hello Pat,

I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws.
I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting.
I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hi,

Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10.
Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything.
Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it.
God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software.
I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jim Pursley
 

I don't know that you would want Quickbooks - it's made by Adobe Systems, the same folks who make Quicken. QB is for small businesses and probably costs more than Quicken.


Why not try googling for the APHB product Money Talks. It sounds like it would meet your needs.

On 5/2/2020 1:22 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
I got a page not found with that link. Trying quickbooks.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni, here's the solution that might be what you're looking for:

Money Talks is a completely accessible bank account management software
package developed by American Printing House (APH). This software package
offers the user a simple and effective means of recording and maintaining
accurate information for a variety of accounts. The user can import and use
electronic banking information to reconcile accounts, remember the last
workspace used in the program, emboss or print the check register in a variety
of formats, and print many types of bank checks. Can be used with a screen
reader or with its own self-voicing feature.

https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_MoneyTalks:BankAccountManagementSoftware_1146012P_10001_11051

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:@lightsrage]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:00 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible!
quicken sure was not.
Where do I get that and how much does it cost. I am on an extreme budget.
And was hoping for fifty and under. I will and grab those scripts


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Quickbooks can do what you want, although you do need scripts from
myblindspot.com and its not perfect, even then, but it should work, and
although I have not used it, the online version is supposed to be more
accessible.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:37:18 -0400,
Jenni Kent wrote:

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Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my
online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it
actually works with jaws and doesn't have outdated scripts from 2003.

My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just
weren't for me. I am not good with excel I just don't know how to
operate it with jaws. I will be honest.

So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent
off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program
is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that's
with nvda and jaws
2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what
a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said
there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes.
Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know
of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank
automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken
wouldn't even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am
not happy right now.

Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head.





Jennifer Kent

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Skype: lightsrage

Whatsapp: Ask.

Telegram: ask

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moderated Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jim Pursley
 

I don't know that you would want Quickbooks - it's made by Adobe Systems, the same folks who make Quicken. QB is for small businesses and probably costs more than Quicken.


Why not try googling for the APHB product Money Talks. It sounds like it would meet your needs.

On 5/2/2020 1:22 PM, Jenni Kent wrote:
I got a page not found with that link. Trying quickbooks.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni, here's the solution that might be what you're looking for:

Money Talks is a completely accessible bank account management software
package developed by American Printing House (APH). This software package
offers the user a simple and effective means of recording and maintaining
accurate information for a variety of accounts. The user can import and use
electronic banking information to reconcile accounts, remember the last
workspace used in the program, emboss or print the check register in a variety
of formats, and print many types of bank checks. Can be used with a screen
reader or with its own self-voicing feature.

https://shop.aph.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_MoneyTalks:BankAccountManagementSoftware_1146012P_10001_11051

-------- Original Message --------
From: Jenni Kent [mailto:@lightsrage]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, May 2, 2020, 12:00 PM
Subject: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible!
quicken sure was not.
Where do I get that and how much does it cost. I am on an extreme budget.
And was hoping for fifty and under. I will and grab those scripts


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and
accessible! quicken sure was not.

Quickbooks can do what you want, although you do need scripts from
myblindspot.com and its not perfect, even then, but it should work, and
although I have not used it, the online version is supposed to be more
accessible.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:37:18 -0400,
Jenni Kent wrote:

[1 <text/plain; us-ascii (7bit)>]
Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my
online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it
actually works with jaws and doesn't have outdated scripts from 2003.

My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just
weren't for me. I am not good with excel I just don't know how to
operate it with jaws. I will be honest.

So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent
off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program
is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that's
with nvda and jaws
2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what
a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said
there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes.
Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know
of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank
automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken
wouldn't even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am
not happy right now.

Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head.





Jennifer Kent

iMessage: lightsrage@... <mailto:lightsrage@...>

Skype: lightsrage

Whatsapp: Ask.

Telegram: ask

Twitter: lights_rage

Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage






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