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moderated Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

 

Hello Pat,

I don't wan to minimize the issues you had, but Jaws 2020 has been out for over 6 months and while there will always be certain configurations and systems with various issues, these may not always be 100% the fault of Jaws. I, for example, had one computer where for over a year I could not use any of the Windows apps like Calculator and in addition to that Jaws would read absolutely nothing in the start menu or the Settings app. I could open Settings and when somebody checked I was told visually everything was fine, I could right arrow and down arrow and focus would move, I could press enter and whatever category I was on opened up and so on, but Jaws was absolutely silent. This was even before Jaws 2020 came out and it was like this with Jaws 2018 and Jaws 2019 and nothing I did including completely uninstalling both versions, deleting all Jaws folders and reinstalling would fix it. At the same time I had another almost identical computer at my business with very similar hardware and all worked fine. Finally I read a post somewhere where another user had the same problem and somehow they either found out or were told to check if a particular item in the group policy editor in Windows 10 Pro was enabled. I checked the same setting and it was disabled on this particular computer, I have no idea why or how, but it was and as soon as I enabled it all worked perfectly. Narrator, by the way, worked just fine in the Settings app, start menu and calculator, it was just Jaws which had the problem and the problem which fixed the issue had nothing to do with Jaws, but was simply a Windows setting.
I mentioned this because it shows how sometimes a problem with Jaws can be extremely specific to one system and be caused by something which is directly not even related to Jaws. I am convinced that if I had wiped the system and reinstalled Windows this would have also fixed the problem, but this happened to be on the PC we use as the main register at my retail store and there is other software on this system which is not quite so easy to reinstall so for the longest time I just put up with it and used Narrator if I wanted to do something in the Settings, I hardly ever use the start menu anyways and when I needed to calculate something I'd just open up Excel instead of using the Calculator. This way I could work around the problem, but it was sure nice when it turned out to be such a simple fix which took me all of 30 seconds to make.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Hi,

Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10.
Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything.
Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and take the bugs out of it.
God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet.
Pat
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: jaws and the new edge chrome.

Milton Ota
 

Hi,

 

I will assume that you have this version number of the new Microsoft Edge:

Microsoft Edge Version 81.0.416.68

 

You also need to be running the latest version and build:

Version 2020.2004.66

 

This is JAWS 2020. This build came out earlier this week.

 

If you don’t have JAWS 2020 and this latest build you can download a free use of JAWS from the Freedom Scientific website which will be good until the end of June.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick Murphy
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 10:26 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws and the new edge chrome.

 

Hi All,

 

I have just installed the new chrome edge (stable version).

Can anyone make sense of this so called new brilliant browser?

No matter what i do in settings, it still insists on using the “bing” virus as a search engine. I imported my settings from google chrome, and it ignored them completely.

It wont let me edit a profile.

However, it keeps adding them. Now i have “profile1” and “profile2”.

Has anyone got rid of this “thing” after installing it?

Can someone with a science degree tell me how to use this piece of what seems to be rubbish?

Sorry, i don’t mean to be sarcastic, but i am sick and tired of Microsoft saying that their things are great, only to find, that they just don’t work with jaws.

Pat

 

 


moderated Financial tracking software that is relatively cheap and accessible! quicken sure was not.

Jenni Kent
 

Hi, I want software for money management where a I can connect to my online banking b its not a hundred bucks a year forty is nice c it actually works with jaws and doesn’t have outdated scripts from 2003.

My story begins yesterday when I looked for excel templates those just weren’t for me. I am not good with excel I just don’t know how to operate it with jaws. I will be honest.

So I got a tip on an offer for quicken. I grab it for thirty percent off on quicken deluxe. Forty bucks later I discover that the program is less than forth coming in the accessibility department and that’s with nvda and jaws 2020 this morning I requested a reason for this and they asked me what a screen reader was. I almost cried but then explained. They said there was nothing they could do and would I like a refund. I said yes. Because I am sorry that is so not cool. So I beg of you do yall know of anything that will do what I seek let me get stuff from my bank automatically and track when bills are due and the like oh and quicken wouldn’t even open a qfx file which it apparently used to open yeah I am not happy right now.

Please help me I suck at keeping this budget in my head.

 

 

Jennifer Kent

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Skype: lightsrage

Whatsapp: Ask.

Telegram: ask

Twitter: lights_rage

Facebook: http://facebook.com/lights_rage

 


moderated Re: jaws and the new edge chrome.

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi All,

 

I have just installed the new chrome edge (stable version).

Can anyone make sense of this so called new brilliant browser?

No matter what i do in settings, it still insists on using the “bing” virus as a search engine. I imported my settings from google chrome, and it ignored them completely.

It wont let me edit a profile.

However, it keeps adding them. Now i have “profile1” and “profile2”.

Has anyone got rid of this “thing” after installing it?

Can someone with a science degree tell me how to use this piece of what seems to be rubbish?

Sorry, i don’t mean to be sarcastic, but i am sick and tired of Microsoft saying that their things are great, only to find, that they just don’t work with jaws.

Pat

 

 


moderated Re: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

Patrick Murphy
 

Hi,

Not surprised you are having trouble. I myself, only recently, had trouble
with installing jaws 2020. I had an authorization problem with windows 10.
Like you, i had to uninstall everything and reinstall everything.
Perhaps freedom scientific should look at this version of jaws again, and
take the bugs out of it.
God knows what else is wrong that hasn't been discovered yet.
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of ratshtron
Sent: Friday 1 May 2020 16:37
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit
system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get
the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to
reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the
jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on
my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update
of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: Changed order of items shown outside of email

kevin meyers
 

Thanks! I had made the change a few days ago from a suggestion.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pramit
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 12:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Changed order of items shown outside of email

 

Hi Kevin,

 

Seems like you have Conversation view Turned On. In this the emails will show up as Threads

If you Turn this Off you'll get separate individual emails, rather than an email with multiple threads.

 

Hope this helps

 

Pramit

 

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:11 PM kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:

Hello, I’m using WS10, Office2016 and most recent version of Jaws2020. I switched the order of the information that shows when on the outside of an email in Outlook. Prior to the most recent version of Jaws I had the subject appear first. Installing the most recent version of Jaws2020 it put the person sending the email appears first. I then changed the view to have the subject first. Now there are emails that I have to press enter on twice. I talked to Microsoft accessibility and they said it was caused by the email having a string of emails and the subject lines are different from one to another. Looking at the email The emails after the current one doesn’t show a subject line. Not sure how MS could say the subject line was different. Plus why would a different subject line cause me to need to press enter twice. I have other emails that have multiple emails within the current one and I only have to press enter once. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: Changed order of items shown outside of email

Pramit
 

Hi Kevin,

Seems like you have Conversation view Turned On. In this the emails will show up as Threads
If you Turn this Off you'll get separate individual emails, rather than an email with multiple threads.

Hope this helps

Pramit

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 7:11 PM kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:

Hello, I’m using WS10, Office2016 and most recent version of Jaws2020. I switched the order of the information that shows when on the outside of an email in Outlook. Prior to the most recent version of Jaws I had the subject appear first. Installing the most recent version of Jaws2020 it put the person sending the email appears first. I then changed the view to have the subject first. Now there are emails that I have to press enter on twice. I talked to Microsoft accessibility and they said it was caused by the email having a string of emails and the subject lines are different from one to another. Looking at the email The emails after the current one doesn’t show a subject line. Not sure how MS could say the subject line was different. Plus why would a different subject line cause me to need to press enter twice. I have other emails that have multiple emails within the current one and I only have to press enter once. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Accessibility of Whatsapp web

turab chimthanawala
 

Hi all,
How can I effectively use Whatsapp web? Per my experience, JAWS
doesn't read everythin in a sequential manner.
If not, Whatsapp web, any other way of using whatsapp on a laptop?
Thanks
Best
Turab


moderated Re: Zoom question

David Diamond
 

I was in such a meeting on Wednesday. And what happened was the organizers sent each of us a group invitation to as he would say break off. Once receiving the invitation, we clicked on the link and we were in a separate group. Simple.


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Milton Ota <mota1252@...>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:18:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Zoom question
 

Hello,

 

My guess is that if there are breakout sessions you will have to login into the session/room that you want to participate.

 

The Organizer should be sending out instructions and links to the separate rooms for you to choose from.

 

In other words I don’t think you can just split off to separate rooms while on the main session.

 

Hope this is clear.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Zoom question

 

Hello group,

Tomorrow morning, I will be participating in a Zoom conference that includes break-out sessions. I assume that there is a tab within Zoom that identifies break-out sessions, (I would think by number) from which I can select the one that I want to join. Is this how it works? I would appreciate some clarification regarding this scenario.

 

Best, Justin  


moderated Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

John Doering
 

I seemed to have solved my problem.

I could not understand why when I hit the JAWS key page down to get the number of messages in my In Box, that I would get something like 8 messages when there were none.

Today I hit shift tab from my In Box list and found a button saying other In Box.  I hit that and other messages showed up.  Once I deleted those messages the key stroke works fine.  On another In Box I monitor, I had to shift tab several times until I found other check box not checked.  When I checked it the missing messages showed up.  To get back to the original In Box, shift tab until you find focus check box not checked and check it.

I do  not know if this is something with Office 360 or what, but I hope this may help someone else.

 

Regards,

 

 

John Doering
Pricing Analyst

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barbara Sheinbein
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 8:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

I had this exact issue.  You need to turn off formatting in Outlook.  You may need to do this for each Outlook folder since sometimes apply this view to all folders does not work.  Since I had trouble figuring where to turn this off, I did have the rep at the Microsoft Disability Help Desk do this for me.  All has worked since.  Sorry I cannot provide detailed steps to turn this off for you.

 

Barbara

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of james hooper
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: issue with jaws not reading number of message in my outlook folder

 

Greetings all can someone suggest how I might fix this problem. Instead of reading the number of messages jaws says   connectivity to your server I think it has to do with how outlook is set up in terms of the folder view but not sure.


moderated Re: Zoom question

Milton Ota
 

Hello,

 

My guess is that if there are breakout sessions you will have to login into the session/room that you want to participate.

 

The Organizer should be sending out instructions and links to the separate rooms for you to choose from.

 

In other words I don’t think you can just split off to separate rooms while on the main session.

 

Hope this is clear.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Mcdevitt
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Zoom question

 

Hello group,

Tomorrow morning, I will be participating in a Zoom conference that includes break-out sessions. I assume that there is a tab within Zoom that identifies break-out sessions, (I would think by number) from which I can select the one that I want to join. Is this how it works? I would appreciate some clarification regarding this scenario.

 

Best, Justin  


moderated the latest update to jaws 2020 giving me a fit

ratshtron
 

I have tried to update to the latest jaws 2020 on a windows 7 32bit system and when I do my system starts rebooting over and over. I get the error that the gdihooks.dll is missing from my computer and to reinstall the software. I finally got it to work removing all the jaws installations and only installing a 2003 build of 2020. Now, on my laptop running windows 10 had no problems with the 2004.66 update of jaws 2020. go figure!


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moderated Re: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

HH. Smith Jr.
 

Hi,

I have installed Firefox, Google Chrome, coupled with IE 11, and edge. I am primarily using IE 11 and edge is close behind. However, some sites that I have to visit for college purposes requires me to utilize all of them some time or the other.

 


moderated Zoom question

Justin Mcdevitt
 

Hello group,

Tomorrow morning, I will be participating in a Zoom conference that includes break-out sessions. I assume that there is a tab within Zoom that identifies break-out sessions, (I would think by number) from which I can select the one that I want to join. Is this how it works? I would appreciate some clarification regarding this scenario.

 

Best, Justin  


moderated Re: Changed order of items shown outside of email

John Covici
 

I wonder if you are using conversation view, this may effect your
result.

On Fri, 01 May 2020 09:41:20 -0400,
kevin meyers wrote:

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Hello, I'm using WS10, Office2016 and most recent version of Jaws2020. I
switched the order of the information that shows when on the outside of an
email in Outlook. Prior to the most recent version of Jaws I had the subject
appear first. Installing the most recent version of Jaws2020 it put the
person sending the email appears first. I then changed the view to have the
subject first. Now there are emails that I have to press enter on twice. I
talked to Microsoft accessibility and they said it was caused by the email
having a string of emails and the subject lines are different from one to
another. Looking at the email The emails after the current one doesn't show
a subject line. Not sure how MS could say the subject line was different.
Plus why would a different subject line cause me to need to press enter
twice. I have other emails that have multiple emails within the current one
and I only have to press enter once. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin




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moderated Re: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

Michael Munn
 

Sometime Firefox but mainly Google Chrome 

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu



On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 3:49 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

Hi, Gaylen. I use Google Chrome, and now the new Chromium Edge which works a lot better than the old Edge.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gaylen Kapperman
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:21 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Cc: Gaylen Kapperman
Subject: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

 

I am writing for a friend who wants to know which browsers work best with JAWS.  And would you agree that Edge does not work well? Thanks very much.

Gaylen Kapperman

 


moderated Re: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

Norma A. Boge
 

Depending on what I’m needing to do, I use Brave, Chrome, Chromium Edge, Firefox or Waterfox. With my setup, Brave is hands down the fastest. Plus browsing is safe and secure with no tracking. For quick and dirty, it rocks!

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

 

Hey guys!

I use Chrome, the new Chromium Edge, and another browser that might surprise you!

Water Fox is still a great browser, and it is so much like IE!

Water Fox is so simple to use, very fast, and very secure.

Also, another browser I use with JAWS, is the Brave browser.

It is so simple to use, great simple enterface, and it is very secure!

So, I use four different browsers for different situations!

For example, I use Water Fox for mobile facebook site, Chrome to fill out banking forms and the like, Edge, to read PDFs and to do searches, and Brave, to import my favorites to, because that browser is ver easy to organize your bookmarks, and also, Brave is really great if you want to play media on sites!

Have a great one, guys!

David Moore

 

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From: tina sohl
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

 

Hi. I use chrome. I think edge might've been ok , but it's been a

while since I tried it but I love chrom and jaws 20 together.

Tina

 

On 4/30/20, Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:

> Hi, Gaylen. I use Google Chrome, and now the new Chromium Edge which works

> a

> lot better than the old Edge.

> Bill White

> billwhite92701@...

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gaylen

> Kapperman

> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 11:21 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Cc: Gaylen Kapperman

> Subject: please list your favorite browsers that you use with JAWS

> I am writing for a friend who wants to know which browsers work best with

> JAWS.  And would you agree that Edge does not work well? Thanks very much.

> Gaylen Kapperman

>

 

 

 


moderated Changed order of items shown outside of email

kevin meyers
 

Hello, I’m using WS10, Office2016 and most recent version of Jaws2020. I switched the order of the information that shows when on the outside of an email in Outlook. Prior to the most recent version of Jaws I had the subject appear first. Installing the most recent version of Jaws2020 it put the person sending the email appears first. I then changed the view to have the subject first. Now there are emails that I have to press enter on twice. I talked to Microsoft accessibility and they said it was caused by the email having a string of emails and the subject lines are different from one to another. Looking at the email The emails after the current one doesn’t show a subject line. Not sure how MS could say the subject line was different. Plus why would a different subject line cause me to need to press enter twice. I have other emails that have multiple emails within the current one and I only have to press enter once. Any suggestions? Thanks, Kevin


moderated Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

soner
 

Hello, ıf you try to overview the responses coming to your Google form
on Chrome Browser, Jaws does not notify you which fields are selected
by the sender, where as, it does on IE.
If you are a Google form creator, on Chrome, after you click
"İndividual" tab on the response received, you can verify it.

On 5/1/20, soner via groups.io <soner.boun=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
The latest JFW version also causes the WhatsApp Windows app hanging
after a while of use, it simply reads nothing on the app window until
either of the 2 is restarted.

On 4/30/20, Adrian Spratt <adrian@...> wrote:
Mike,

I had the same problem with Outlook 2016, and the quick settings remedy
was
no longer working. So far this morning, the procedure you lay out here
has
worked. It makes a huge difference.

One addition. At the end, you say to close by tabbing to the apply button.
I
found I had to tab to okay, then tab to apply, then tab again to okay.

Once again, thanks.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 5:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

Hi Bill,

I don't run Outlook, so this is only something to try to see if it'll
take
care of what you're wanting.

Open the Settings Center while in the application or open the default all
applications Settings Center if you want to do this for all applications.

Down arrow to, Web / HTML / PDFs closed, right arrow toopen.

Down arrow to, Reading, right arrow to open.

Down arrow to, Configure Web Verbosity Levels closed, right arrow to
open.

Down arrow to, Medium..., press the spacebar to open. Note, don't press
enter here, only use the spacebar.

Down arrow many times to, Table grid checked, and uncheck this to see if
this helps.

Now apply and okay and hope this works for you.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
*My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I
pee
it cleans the toilet.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White<mailto:billwhite92701@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

Hi, Jonathan. How do you turn off layout tables?

Thank you.

Bill White
billwhite92701@...<mailto:billwhite92701@...>

From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 9:53 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Latest JAWS 2020 and continued Outlook 2016 issues

If the detect tables does not work, another possibility is that layout
tables are causing you grief so make sure they are turned off.
Web sites have CSS in order to put text into columns and other cute
layouts,
but Mail generally ignores CSS functions for complex layout so designers
end
up using tables with multi row or multi column spans that can not
effectively be read column by column row by row, so the screen reader
ends
up either reading things repetitively or else skipping important
information.

Sometimes the mail will have a plain text alternative either in the same
message or in a subscribe button. This of course brings its own problems.







moderated Long between clicking Google Chrome program and..

Morey Worthington
 

Morning all. Using W10 newest bill, Jaws 2020, newest bill and Googel Chrome. Lately when clicking on Chrome, Jaws takes 4-5 seconds to go to the search part, then if I hit the alt/F keys there is sometimes 10 seconds to get to another part so that a person can click on bookmarks. I am very seldom in a hurry to get anywhere, but this is getting really bad. Any thoughts?

I have tried restarting the computer, but before that tried turning off Jaws and re-starting it.

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Morey Worthington

 

 

 

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