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Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If you really want to do it, go in and alter your profile's voice adjustments. I don't know how comments would be classified, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:21 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

There may be, but why do you want to do this? To me, it makes perfect sense that JAWS reads comments in a different voice, as it makes it easier to distinguish them from the body of the main text.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi again,

I have one more question regarding track changes. When I arrow through my document, and come to a line that has a comment, the Jaws voice changes to Rocko when reading the comment. Is there a way to prevent the Jaws voice from changing when it reads a comment?

Thanks,

Russell

On 5/14/15, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ed,

Thanks so much! You saved me a lot of time combing through the archives.

You guys are great!

Russell

On 5/13/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Russell:
I just reviewed Paul's very thorough tips on using track changes in Word.
I
think I was in that thread with Paul, and I cannot think of a thing
he left out.
You should know that turning on the quick access keys with JAWS key
plus z is pretty much useless in large documents. So, don't rely on
that.
Also, don't rely on JAWS to give you the colors of the added and
deleted text. In the end, that's not all that important because the
colors depend on everyone's computer. So a deletion that is in red
on your computer may be green on someone else's computer.
In the verbosity settings, turning on "count" is crucial. That way
you'll know if there has been a change in a line if you are reading
by line.
This
is not too reliable if you are jumping by paragraph. JAWS won't
always tell you when an entire paragraph has been deleted if you are
jumping through a document with control plus down arrow.
Paul is also right about sighted users having some of the same
problems, especially in identifying who made what changes. JAWS will
actually announce the names. Sighted users have to jump through way
more hoops to figure out who made what change -- particularly when
there have been 4 or
5
people editing a document.
Good luck.
Ps
As frustrating as JAWS is on track changes, the other screen readers
either don't attempt to follow track changes or do so crudely.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi Kimber,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions… very helpful. You
and Paul suggest the same trick of using the Quick Access toolbar… a
great idea.

Take care,

Russell
On May 13, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Track changes are, quite honestly, a pain in the butt with any
version of jaws. It can be done, but you will need patience and perseverance.

Now having said that, what I've done is place accept and reject
changes on the quick access toolbar so I can use control key
combinations to perform these functions. The whole operation is
still a bit clunky, and there are times when you will need to use
your jaws functions to list revisions and the like. But it can be done.

Kimber

On 5/12/15, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

What is the most efficient way to use track changes in MS Word 2013
or
2007 using Jaws 16? It seems a little tedious to bring up a list of
revisions with shift + Insert + R and then work through all the
listed insertions and deletions one by one, especially in a long
document. Is there a way to accept or reject a change and then jump
directly to the next revision and so on without having to bring up
the list again?

Any suggestions for using track changes more efficiently would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks all.

Russell

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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Tom Behler
 

Thanks, Michal.

This is good information.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 3:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

I have Avira on both my laptop and desktop, and I like it because unlike
most antivirus programs, it does not use a lot of computer resources.
Consequently, it doesn't impact overall system performance. The only
problem is that it has recently become inaccessible because it no longer
runs in a normal window. Fortunately, I don't have to mess with its
interface, as it seems to block potential threats automatically.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

I don't remember any accessibility problems, but it once quarantined my
volume control! I discontinued using it when I began experiencing update
problems, but would consider trying it again.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Thanks. ... Will wait to read what others might have to say.

Dr. Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

I've heard of the name, but recollect that it was prone to triggering false
positives for things that were be nine and lacked screen reader
accessibility. that was some time ago but I don't know if it has changed for
the better. I heard it is accessible with NVDA but don't know to what
extent.




On 5/14/2015 10:41 AM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have
your experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is
free from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have
heard about AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program.
It has caused problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a
program on my computer running in the background, and interfering with
Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest
version of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is
AVG
15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal
with it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using
with Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly
anti-virus program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan









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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

I have Avira on both my laptop and desktop, and I like it because unlike
most antivirus programs, it does not use a lot of computer resources.
Consequently, it doesn't impact overall system performance. The only
problem is that it has recently become inaccessible because it no longer
runs in a normal window. Fortunately, I don't have to mess with its
interface, as it seems to block potential threats automatically.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

I don't remember any accessibility problems, but it once quarantined my
volume control! I discontinued using it when I began experiencing update
problems, but would consider trying it again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Thanks. ... Will wait to read what others might have to say.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

I've heard of the name, but recollect that it was prone to triggering false
positives for things that were be nine and lacked screen reader
accessibility. that was some time ago but I don't know if it has changed for
the better. I heard it is accessible with NVDA but don't know to what
extent.




On 5/14/2015 10:41 AM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have
your experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is
free from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have
heard about AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program.
It has caused problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a
program on my computer running in the background, and interfering with
Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest
version of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is
AVG
15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal
with it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using
with Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly
anti-virus program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan









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Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

There may be, but why do you want to do this? To me, it makes perfect sense that JAWS reads comments in a different voice, as it makes it easier to distinguish them from the body of the main text.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi again,

I have one more question regarding track changes. When I arrow through
my document, and come to a line that has a comment, the Jaws voice
changes to Rocko when reading the comment. Is there a way to prevent
the Jaws voice from changing when it reads a comment?

Thanks,

Russell

On 5/14/15, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ed,

Thanks so much! You saved me a lot of time combing through the archives.

You guys are great!

Russell

On 5/13/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Russell:
I just reviewed Paul's very thorough tips on using track changes in Word.
I
think I was in that thread with Paul, and I cannot think of a thing he
left
out.
You should know that turning on the quick access keys with JAWS key plus
z
is pretty much useless in large documents. So, don't rely on that.
Also, don't rely on JAWS to give you the colors of the added and deleted
text. In the end, that's not all that important because the colors
depend
on everyone's computer. So a deletion that is in red on your computer
may
be green on someone else's computer.
In the verbosity settings, turning on "count" is crucial. That way
you'll
know if there has been a change in a line if you are reading by line.
This
is not too reliable if you are jumping by paragraph. JAWS won't always
tell
you when an entire paragraph has been deleted if you are jumping through
a
document with control plus down arrow.
Paul is also right about sighted users having some of the same problems,
especially in identifying who made what changes. JAWS will actually
announce the names. Sighted users have to jump through way more hoops to
figure out who made what change -- particularly when there have been 4 or
5
people editing a document.
Good luck.
Ps
As frustrating as JAWS is on track changes, the other screen readers
either
don't attempt to follow track changes or do so crudely.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi Kimber,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions… very helpful. You and
Paul suggest the same trick of using the Quick Access toolbar… a great
idea.

Take care,

Russell
On May 13, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Track changes are, quite honestly, a pain in the butt with any version
of jaws. It can be done, but you will need patience and perseverance.

Now having said that, what I've done is place accept and reject
changes on the quick access toolbar so I can use control key
combinations to perform these functions. The whole operation is still
a bit clunky, and there are times when you will need to use your jaws
functions to list revisions and the like. But it can be done.

Kimber

On 5/12/15, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

What is the most efficient way to use track changes in MS Word 2013
or
2007 using Jaws 16? It seems a little tedious to bring up a list of
revisions with shift + Insert + R and then work through all the
listed insertions and deletions one by one, especially in a long
document. Is there a way to accept or reject a change and then jump
directly to the next revision and so on without having to bring up the
list again?

Any suggestions for using track changes more efficiently would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks all.

Russell

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Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi again,

I have one more question regarding track changes. When I arrow through
my document, and come to a line that has a comment, the Jaws voice
changes to Rocko when reading the comment. Is there a way to prevent
the Jaws voice from changing when it reads a comment?

Thanks,

Russell

On 5/14/15, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ed,

Thanks so much! You saved me a lot of time combing through the archives.

You guys are great!

Russell

On 5/13/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Russell:
I just reviewed Paul's very thorough tips on using track changes in Word.
I
think I was in that thread with Paul, and I cannot think of a thing he
left
out.
You should know that turning on the quick access keys with JAWS key plus
z
is pretty much useless in large documents. So, don't rely on that.
Also, don't rely on JAWS to give you the colors of the added and deleted
text. In the end, that's not all that important because the colors
depend
on everyone's computer. So a deletion that is in red on your computer
may
be green on someone else's computer.
In the verbosity settings, turning on "count" is crucial. That way
you'll
know if there has been a change in a line if you are reading by line.
This
is not too reliable if you are jumping by paragraph. JAWS won't always
tell
you when an entire paragraph has been deleted if you are jumping through
a
document with control plus down arrow.
Paul is also right about sighted users having some of the same problems,
especially in identifying who made what changes. JAWS will actually
announce the names. Sighted users have to jump through way more hoops to
figure out who made what change -- particularly when there have been 4 or
5
people editing a document.
Good luck.
Ps
As frustrating as JAWS is on track changes, the other screen readers
either
don't attempt to follow track changes or do so crudely.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi Kimber,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions… very helpful. You and
Paul suggest the same trick of using the Quick Access toolbar… a great
idea.

Take care,

Russell
On May 13, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Track changes are, quite honestly, a pain in the butt with any version
of jaws. It can be done, but you will need patience and perseverance.

Now having said that, what I've done is place accept and reject
changes on the quick access toolbar so I can use control key
combinations to perform these functions. The whole operation is still
a bit clunky, and there are times when you will need to use your jaws
functions to list revisions and the like. But it can be done.

Kimber

On 5/12/15, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

What is the most efficient way to use track changes in MS Word 2013
or
2007 using Jaws 16? It seems a little tedious to bring up a list of
revisions with shift + Insert + R and then work through all the
listed insertions and deletions one by one, especially in a long
document. Is there a way to accept or reject a change and then jump
directly to the next revision and so on without having to bring up the
list again?

Any suggestions for using track changes more efficiently would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks all.

Russell

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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I don't remember any accessibility problems, but it once quarantined my volume control! I discontinued using it when I began experiencing update problems, but would consider trying it again.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:03 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Thanks. ... Will wait to read what others might have to say.

Dr. Tom Behler


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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

I've heard of the name, but recollect that it was prone to triggering false positives for things that were be nine and lacked screen reader accessibility. that was some time ago but I don't know if it has changed for the better. I heard it is accessible with NVDA but don't know to what extent.




On 5/14/2015 10:41 AM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have
your experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler



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Mote via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is
free from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have
heard about AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program.
It has caused problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


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Behler via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a
program on my computer running in the background, and interfering with
Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest
version of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is AVG
15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal
with it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using
with Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly
anti-virus program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



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Re: JAWS Not Reading Links

Jimmy Jones
 

Thanks Tom. I gave it a try but it didn't work.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:22 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: JAWS Not Reading Links

Try JawsKey+Escape to refresh the screen. I find this often fixes the
problem.
Regards
Tom Bisset
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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Jimmy Jones
Subject: JAWS Not Reading Links
Importance: High

Good morning to everyone,



I have a strange JAWS problem where JAWS 16 will not read or recognize links
or other elements that appear on the screen.



I had this issue with JAWS 14 and 15, but JAWS 16 seemed to fix everything.
However, a day or two ago, it started to do the same thing.



For example, I would type in a search term and press the enter key and the
information would appear on the screen as usual. But JAWS would not read it.
It would not recognize links, headings, combo boxes, etc. In short, it would
ignore the information generated by the search. It reads the information
that was present on the screen before the search, but not the result. I did
get a message saying that there are no aria controls on the page. I should
mention that the result is present on the screen and that a sighted person
has no difficulty using it.



I am using JAWS 16, Windows 7, I.E. 11.



Thanks for your help.





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Re: Another J16 Update Available

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

If they only address one, let's hope it's the Valium Syndrome!

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 8:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Another J16 Update Available

Unfortunately, the release notes for this update are very generic; all FS says is that it corrects an issue that had been made known to the company through automatic error reporting. While this suggests that the update is minor, the timing of its release is quite thought-provoking, as it hasn't been too long since the previous update came out. Besides, why would FS release an update that addresses only one issue? To my knowledge, this has never happened before.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 7:23 PM
To: JFW List
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Another J16 Update Available

Hi All,

Another update for J16 is available, J16.0.2342. I didn't have time to find out what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.2342ENU-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.2342ENU-x64.exe


Take care.
Mike
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Re: JAWS Not Reading Links

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Try JawsKey+Escape to refresh the screen. I find this often fixes the problem.
Regards
Tom Bisset

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Jimmy Jones
Subject: JAWS Not Reading Links
Importance: High

Good morning to everyone,



I have a strange JAWS problem where JAWS 16 will not read or recognize links or other elements that appear on the screen.



I had this issue with JAWS 14 and 15, but JAWS 16 seemed to fix everything.
However, a day or two ago, it started to do the same thing.



For example, I would type in a search term and press the enter key and the information would appear on the screen as usual. But JAWS would not read it.
It would not recognize links, headings, combo boxes, etc. In short, it would ignore the information generated by the search. It reads the information that was present on the screen before the search, but not the result. I did get a message saying that there are no aria controls on the page. I should mention that the result is present on the screen and that a sighted person has no difficulty using it.



I am using JAWS 16, Windows 7, I.E. 11.



Thanks for your help.





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Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Ed,

Thanks so much! You saved me a lot of time combing through the archives.

You guys are great!

Russell

On 5/13/15, Ed Marquette via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Russell:
I just reviewed Paul's very thorough tips on using track changes in Word. I
think I was in that thread with Paul, and I cannot think of a thing he left
out.
You should know that turning on the quick access keys with JAWS key plus z
is pretty much useless in large documents. So, don't rely on that.
Also, don't rely on JAWS to give you the colors of the added and deleted
text. In the end, that's not all that important because the colors depend
on everyone's computer. So a deletion that is in red on your computer may
be green on someone else's computer.
In the verbosity settings, turning on "count" is crucial. That way you'll
know if there has been a change in a line if you are reading by line. This
is not too reliable if you are jumping by paragraph. JAWS won't always tell
you when an entire paragraph has been deleted if you are jumping through a
document with control plus down arrow.
Paul is also right about sighted users having some of the same problems,
especially in identifying who made what changes. JAWS will actually
announce the names. Sighted users have to jump through way more hoops to
figure out who made what change -- particularly when there have been 4 or 5
people editing a document.
Good luck.
Ps
As frustrating as JAWS is on track changes, the other screen readers either
don't attempt to follow track changes or do so crudely.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Track changes in Word 2007/2013

Hi Kimber,

Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions… very helpful. You and
Paul suggest the same trick of using the Quick Access toolbar… a great idea.

Take care,

Russell
On May 13, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Track changes are, quite honestly, a pain in the butt with any version
of jaws. It can be done, but you will need patience and perseverance.

Now having said that, what I've done is place accept and reject
changes on the quick access toolbar so I can use control key
combinations to perform these functions. The whole operation is still
a bit clunky, and there are times when you will need to use your jaws
functions to list revisions and the like. But it can be done.

Kimber

On 5/12/15, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

What is the most efficient way to use track changes in MS Word 2013
or
2007 using Jaws 16? It seems a little tedious to bring up a list of
revisions with shift + Insert + R and then work through all the
listed insertions and deletions one by one, especially in a long
document. Is there a way to accept or reject a change and then jump
directly to the next revision and so on without having to bring up the
list again?

Any suggestions for using track changes more efficiently would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks all.

Russell

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JAWS Not Reading Links

Jimmy Jones
 

Good morning to everyone,



I have a strange JAWS problem where JAWS 16 will not read or recognize links
or other elements that appear on the screen.



I had this issue with JAWS 14 and 15, but JAWS 16 seemed to fix everything.
However, a day or two ago, it started to do the same thing.



For example, I would type in a search term and press the enter key and the
information would appear on the screen as usual. But JAWS would not read it.
It would not recognize links, headings, combo boxes, etc. In short, it would
ignore the information generated by the search. It reads the information
that was present on the screen before the search, but not the result. I did
get a message saying that there are no aria controls on the page. I should
mention that the result is present on the screen and that a sighted person
has no difficulty using it.



I am using JAWS 16, Windows 7, I.E. 11.



Thanks for your help.





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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Tom Behler
 

Thanks. ... Will wait to read what others might have to say.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

I've heard of the name, but recollect that it was prone to triggering false
positives for things that were be nine and lacked screen reader
accessibility. that was some time ago but I don't know if it has changed for
the better. I heard it is accessible with NVDA but don't know to what
extent.




On 5/14/2015 10:41 AM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have
your experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Mote via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is
free from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have
heard about AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program.
It has caused problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a
program on my computer running in the background, and interfering with
Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest
version of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is AVG
15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal
with it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using
with Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly
anti-virus program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Mario
 

I've heard of the name, but recollect that it was prone to triggering false positives for things that were be nine and lacked screen reader accessibility. that was some time ago but I don't know if it has changed for the better. I heard it is accessible with NVDA but don't know to what extent.




On 5/14/2015 10:41 AM, Tom Behler via Jfw wrote:
Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have your
experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is free
from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have heard about
AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program. It has caused
problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.


You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a program on
my computer running in the background, and interfering with Jaws.


Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.


Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest version
of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is AVG 15.


Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.


I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.


Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal with
it?


If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using with
Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly anti-virus
program?


I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.


Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.


For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.


Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Tom Behler
 

Has anyone else ever heard of, or used Avira? And, if so, what have your
experiences been?

Does it compare favorably to something like AVG?

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 10:07 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is free
from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have heard about
AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program. It has caused
problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a program on
my computer running in the background, and interfering with Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest version
of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is AVG 15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal with
it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using with
Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly anti-virus
program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



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Re: Verbosity

Londa Peterson
 

My guess is that you're probably pressing insert + S. Just press it a couple
more times until you hear JAWS say "highlighted". That should solve your
problem.

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 4:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: Verbosity

Hello Listers,
I am using Jaws 16, and Windows 7 64 bit. Once in a while Jaws goes totally
verbose, reading what I take to be everything in the window. I suspect it is
me pressing a keystroke by mistake, but if so I have no idea what it is, and
end up performing a system restore to get Jaws back to a usable verbosity.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Jaws And Anti-virus

Michael Mote
 

Hi Tom. I have a blind friend who uses a program called Avira. It is free
from what I understand. Just a suggestion. From what I have heard about
AVG, you made a good decision to get rid of that program. It has caused
problems for friends of mine who use JAWS. Hope this helps!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Jaws And Anti-virus

Hello, everyone.



You may recall that, a few days ago, I was having trouble with a program on
my computer running in the background, and interfering with Jaws.



Originally, I thought the problem was with Java.



Apparently, the problem was not with Java, but was with the latest version
of the AVG anti-virus software. I think the version number is AVG 15.



Last night, an AVG update occurred, which literally made Jaws totally
unusable.



I've now completely uninstalled AVG, and Jaws works perfectly.



Has anyone else had this problem with AVG, and if so, how did you deal with
it?



If AVG is not the most Jaws-friendly anti-virus program to be using with
Jaws, does someone have recommendations for a more Jaws-friendly anti-virus
program?



I'd prefer to stick with free anti-virus software if possible.



Any help would be appreciated, since I am not comfortable running this
computer without anti-virus software.



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this windows 7 computer.



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Re: Keytips for word and Excel 2007

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:41 AM
Subject: Keytips for word and Excel 2007


although the title says Office 2007, these keytips work for Office 2010 as well. Here are links to the files on sendspace.com.

For MS Word:
<https://www.sendspace.com/file/y5zhmc>https://www.sendspace.com/file/y5zhmc

For Excel:
<https://www.sendspace.com/file/fh0muj>https://www.sendspace.com/file/fh0muj


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Ryan, Necessity For Java?

Mario
 

Ryan, is it a good idea to keep Flash installed (and up to date) for those websites that require it? I have Web Visum installed in Firefox for solving those pesky CAPTCHAs.

-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Coverdell via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Ryan Coverdell Subject: Re: Necessity For Java? I would rather listen to streaming audio via a default player like windows media or real player. But many streaming audio, (especially major sites like IHEART media, require some sort of web-based player. So if you use your computer for streaming audio it might be good to leave java installed. I'm not a tech person, but I have found that sometimes small changes you make in a set-up can have consequences you might not know about for a while. So I would somehow turn off the up-dates but not uninstall it unless you're sure that you don't need it for the programs you use. Regards, Ryan Coverdell from Montana On 5/13/15, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I am posting this quiry to both the JFW list, and the Jaws users list,
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My question is as follows: How necessary is Java for today's computer
applications?



I seem to be having a problem with constant updates slowing down my
computer, and getting in the way of Jaws, and am seriously considering
uninstalling Java.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Ryan, Necessity For Java?

Mario
 

Ryan, is it a good idea to keep Flash installed (and up to date) for those websites that require it? I have Web Visum installed in Firefox for solving those pesky CAPTCHAs.

-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Coverdell via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Ryan Coverdell Subject: Re: Necessity For Java? I would rather listen to streaming audio via a default player like windows media or real player. But many streaming audio, (especially major sites like IHEART media, require some sort of web-based player. So if you use your computer for streaming audio it might be good to leave java installed. I'm not a tech person, but I have found that sometimes small changes you make in a set-up can have consequences you might not know about for a while. So I would somehow turn off the up-dates but not uninstall it unless you're sure that you don't need it for the programs you use. Regards, Ryan Coverdell from Montana On 5/13/15, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hello, everyone.



I am posting this quiry to both the JFW list, and the Jaws users list,
so I hope this is ok.



My question is as follows: How necessary is Java for today's computer
applications?



I seem to be having a problem with constant updates slowing down my
computer, and getting in the way of Jaws, and am seriously considering
uninstalling Java.



Any thoughts would be appreciated.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

JAWS training material is quite good; that's how I learned. I think it's the module on Office 2007 (I think that's where the ribbon first appeared).

Ted

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Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?

Dave and others,

Any advice on best way(s) to learn the ribbon? I've tried and just don't seem to get it. I often get lost and can't seem to find what I'm looking for.

Once I learn a specific set of keystrokes for use within the ribbon, I'm OK.

Thanks for any help. Keith

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Paul,

I believe you are correct. You cannot have both. I personally do not like the Virtual menus, because they do not support first-letter navigation as do standard menus. Therefore I stick to the ribbon and just learn how to use it.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 07:16 AM
Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?


Thanks, everyone.

Now here's a slightly related question. MS has their own keyboard interface for the ribbon UI, as in "Alt then H, O, I". But you can also turn on the JAWS rinnon UI to make the ribbon feel more like a system of menus and submenus. I can see how both might be useful, but they seem to be mutually exclusive. When I turn on the JAWS ribbon UI, the MS ribbon keyboard inbterface seems to stop working.

Does anyone know how to set up JAWS so that both the MS interface and the JAWS interface to the ribbon UI are available? Then I could choose to use one or the other interface, depending on which is most convenient, personal preference, etc.

My guess is that this is simply not possible. I have to choose one or the other.
-Paul



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