Date   

moderated classic shell

dennis
 

anyone know where i can download classic shell? thanks for any help.

--
Dennis Cornelison


moderated Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I just deleted the dir and it worked. I just like having everything in great order. Thanks!

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Matthew Bullis
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 3:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts

 

My answer is it probably won't cause problems, but you can email Jim and ask.

Alternatively, they shouldn't take up much space, so it wouldn't be a problem to leave them there.

Matthew

 



On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



Hi,

I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I just needed THAT! Its name is autostart. Thanks 😊

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 3:22 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I would try sticking it in the auto start function, this way, it should start when JAWS is started, either automatically or manually.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Thursday, March 5, 2020, 6:04 AM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade,

so I just need to call it when JFW starts.

 

Pozdrawiam,

 

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss

*Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language

however here is pseudo code that may help:

 

Wants Jaws script is loaded

Confirm jaws has started

Enable required functionality

 

Thanks,abraham

 

 

On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...

<mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:

 

     I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will

     execute just after startup

 

     Pozdrawiam,

 

     Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

     *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

     <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of

     *Abraham Sweiss

     *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM

     *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

     *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

     I do not think this is possible.

 

     You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

 

     Thanks,abraham

 

 

     On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...

     <mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:

 

         I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen

         shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

         Pozdrawiam,

 

         Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

         *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

         <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of

         *Sieghard Weitzel

         *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM

         *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

         *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

         Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle

         screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

         *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

         <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of

         *Richard Turner

         *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM

         *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

         *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

         For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and

         the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

 

         Later,

 

         Richard

 

         "There's a nap for that."

 

             On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...

             <mailto:mb69mach1@...>> wrote:

 

             

 

             Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was

             too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL

 

             I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

             The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws

             Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered

             keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings.

 

             The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the

             Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both

             keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.

             In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen

             Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

             Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now

             let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

             With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear

             Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

             Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the

             Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways

             mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting

             through Jaws quick settings:

 

             BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen

             shade setting is found in the General Options category of

             Jaws quick settings.

 

             So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press,

             Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

             Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and

             if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

             Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report,

             Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the

             spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being,

             On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

             If you make a settings change for this setting or others,

             then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your

             settings changes & close quick settings.

 

             If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it

             in an easier fashion?!

 

             Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become

             attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL

 

 

             Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 

             ----- Original Message -----

 

             *From:*Adrian Spratt <mailto:adrian@...>

 

             *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

             *Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

 

             *Subject:*Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

             Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a

             little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his

             famous barstool.

 

             *From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

             <main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf

             Of *Jessica D

             *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM

             *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

             *Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

             Hi,

 

             Can you please retype your response in English?

 

             I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but

             can't read your response.

 

             Thanks,

 

             Jessica

 

 

 

 

 

                 On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B

                 <mb69mach1@... <mailto:mb69mach1@...>>

                 wrote:

 

                 

 

                   Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the,

                 Print Screen key.

 

                 Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

                 To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the

                 quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v

                 if you are using the laptop layout.

 

                 Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.

                 Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it

                 isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay,

                 and press enter to save / close.

 

 

                 Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

 

                 ----- Original Message -----

 

                 *From:*Arkadiusz Świętnicki <mailto:nuno69a@...>

 

                 *To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

 

                 *Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

 

                 *Subject:*Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

                 Hi,

 

                 I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to

                 make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done.

                 Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my

                 friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to

                 have the curtain on all the time..

 

                 I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to

                 change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

                 Pozdrawiam,

 

                 Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Mario
 

I would try sticking it in the auto start function, this way, it should start when JAWS is started, either automatically or manually.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Arkadiusz Świętnicki [mailto:nuno69a@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2020, 6:04 AM
Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws
The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade,
so I just need to call it when JFW starts.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Abraham Sweiss
*Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language
however here is pseudo code that may help:

Wants Jaws script is loaded
Confirm jaws has started
Enable required functionality

Thanks,abraham


On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...
<mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:

I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will
execute just after startup

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Abraham Sweiss
*Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

I do not think this is possible.

You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

Thanks,abraham


On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...
<mailto:nuno69a@...>> wrote:

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen
shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle
screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*Richard Turner
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and
the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

Richard

"There's a nap for that."

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...
<mailto:mb69mach1@...>> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was
too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL

I'll try to put in more simpley:

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws
Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered
keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings.

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the
Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both
keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.
In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen
Shade, On or Off task is below:

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now
let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear
Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the
Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways
mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting
through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen
shade setting is found in the General Options category of
Jaws quick settings.

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press,
Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and
if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report,
Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the
spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being,
On, and unchecked being, Off.

If you make a settings change for this setting or others,
then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your
settings changes & close quick settings.

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it
in an easier fashion?!

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become
attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Adrian Spratt <mailto:adrian@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

*Subject:*Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a
little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his
famous barstool.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf
Of *Jessica D
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English?

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but
can't read your response.

Thanks,

Jessica





On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B
<mb69mach1@... <mailto:mb69mach1@...>>
wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the,
Print Screen key.

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the
quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v
if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.
Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it
isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay,
and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Arkadiusz Świętnicki <mailto:nuno69a@...>

*To:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

*Subject:*Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to
make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done.
Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my
friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to
have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to
change a lot from my last visit in it.

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno


moderated Re: Safe removal of Snowman scripts

Matthew Bullis
 

My answer is it probably won't cause problems, but you can email Jim and ask.
snowman@...
Alternatively, they shouldn't take up much space, so it wouldn't be a problem to leave them there.
Matthew


On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



Hi,

I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Gmail Jonas
 

I do not see why not!

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 6:05 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Will his OCR works then?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I want you to turn off the monitor

Will save on electric as well

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Will his OCR works then?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gmail Jonas
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 12:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I want you to turn off the monitor

Will save on electric as well



On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Gmail Jonas
 

I want you to turn off the monitor
Will save on electric as well

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:



Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Safe removal of Snowman scripts

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Hi,

I’ve installed some of these but I do not need them anymore. Can I safely delete them from my Roaming folder?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

The code is actually very simple. The script name is ToggleScreenShade, so I just need to call it when JFW starts.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help:

Wants Jaws script is loaded
Confirm jaws has started
Enable required functionality

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I do not think this is possible.

You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 





On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Abraham Sweiss
 

I do not know enough about the specifics of the jaws scripting language however here is pseudo code that may help:

Wants Jaws script is loaded
Confirm jaws has started
Enable required functionality



Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 5, 2020, at 4:58 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I do not think this is possible.

You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 




On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I know how to add, but I don’t know where to add the code that will execute just after startup

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham Sweiss
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 10:24 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

I do not think this is possible.

You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

 

Thanks,abraham 


On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 




On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Abraham Sweiss
 

I do not think this is possible.

You may need to write a script to add that functionality.

Thanks,abraham 

On Mar 5, 2020, at 1:56 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...> wrote:

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

I didn’t clarify enough! What I wanted to do is start the screen shade with JAWS, when the program starts up.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 7:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

Arkadiusz Świętnicki
 

Thank you. I have no LI account but I might getting up one.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 3:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Hi, Nuno.

If you are on Facebook there is a very active group which I believe is called JAWS Screen Reader Users. On LinkedIn I created a group called JAWS Users, which you are more than welcome to join if you are signed up with LinkedIn.

 

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/4/2020 9:15 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

I wish there were more groups about JFW.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jschliff@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

I agree, I am on the verge of leaving this group because there are instances where the group loses focus on its real purpose, Jaws and it’s solutions to provide all of us with real meaningful use of our computers.  I am too busy to follow the nonsense!

 

Joseph

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:23 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

Start your political nonsense group, you have no right throwing this out when this list is for Jaws, not your political views forced down the throats of those not within the United States. Stop it already!

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:20 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Excuse me, but other list members, the vast majority of whom live here in the states,  have the right to full disclosure about Kaspersky Labs and its ties to the hostle Russian government.  This Moscow-based company has been banned from doing business with US government agencies, so as the saying goes, where' there's smoke, there's fire.  Although Kaspersky's anti-virus products may be legit, the company's real mission is highly questionable, regardless of anyone's political beliefs, and I personally would not trust their software products when Windows Security is free and probably just as effective. But to each, his own.  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/4/2020 7:52 AM, Rick Mladek wrote:

Pozdrawiam,

 

So much for international relations. Please ignore those political comments. Truly not necessary when dealing with individuals from around the globe. Please Gerald, remember this when addressing our Friends all here about Jaws and not anything more.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 6:31 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Greetings and Kaspersky Total Security with JAWS

 

 

Why would anyone trust a paid anti-virus program who developers are based in Russia?  There have been allegations that this company may even be involved in the Russian hacking scheme to influence the outcomes of the 2016 and now the 2020 elections, and that it may even have close ties to Vladimir Puten. I have no idea whether these allegations are true or not, but why take chances when Windows Security is free and totally accessible and does a satisfactory job?  

 

Gerald

 

 

On 3/3/2020 9:36 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hello. While I have not used Kaspersky Total Security I have been using Kaspersky Antivirus for approximately five years with both JAWS as well as with NVDA. I can definitely confirm your findings. I won't say much about using Kaspersky with NVDA since this is a JAWS-specific list. However, the following link will take you to a detailed review which I wrote discussing NVDA's performance with Kaspersky. When using Kaspersky Antivirus with JAWS I have sometimes seen JAWS being able to read the various controls as I navigate to them with tab or shift-tab but this accessibility seemed to stop working after a while. I am guessing this could have been due to a Kaspersky program update but I cannot confirm this without uninstalling it and reinstalling an earlier version which I honestly don't wish to do. For now the tab key reads nothing and, as you say, using the touch cursor is necessary when navigating in the main window. If you access the program from the system tray choosing the Settings or Task Manager options may be more accessible with JAWS. I do feel that some scripting could solve for many of these issues. Once I learn a little more about scripting I am willing to try and write some Kaspersky scripts but it's going to be a while before this can happen.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 3/3/2020 3:47 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki wrote:

Hello guys!

Thank you for letting me in in to your groups! I am a JAWS user from Poland, primarily interested in programming, sound design and other things. I have came here to discuss this great screenreader with you, ask questions and help others to the best of my ability.

The first problem I have noticed and wanted to discuss is JAWS support for the Kaspersky Total Security package. I use this software and it is essential for me to have this one pretty wellaccessible.. The competing screenreader works with it OK, however JAWS has its problems. Tab and Shift+Tab seem not to work at all while I am in the PC Cursor mode. I have to use the touch cursor to operate the software, and it is not always convenient to use this specific cursor.

Moreover this behavior is very illogical to me, as KTS’s interface seems to be standard WPF or something of that sorts.

Maybe I am doing something wrong (I’m pretty new to JFW, I use it for less than a year).

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: JFW and the jumping tray

Stan Bobbitt
 

Also, when you use insert-F11 to bring up the system tray, once you arrow to an item you can tab down and there’s right single click, left single click, and left double click.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Two points:

 

First, when bringing up items in the system tray with insert-F11, you don’t right arrow to make a selection. Instead, press enter. After that, the tab and arrow keys will work, depending on the application selected.

 

Second, although the mouse right-click and applications key often bring up the same menu, they don’t always. I can’t think of an example as I write, but when you can’t get where you want to with either method, try the other in case.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Right click (alt+4) behaves the same as applications key.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:57 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

I think you get more options with the system tray using Windows B instead of insert F11, such as using the applications key.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 1:43 PM

Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

I know, but for my friend it’s a dealbreaker. I would love this problem to be fixed! If it’s possible to report it or help in any way, just tell me how.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi,

I find much more stability accessing the system tray with insert+F11.

HTH,

StanB

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:33 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: JFW and the jumping tray

 

Hi friends!

I am sorry I post so many messages, but this place is new for me and it seems I have too many questions.

I and my friends notice a weird behavior regarding the system tray. Let’s say I open the tray (Windows+B) and navigate with arrow keys through the icons. Everything is good and fun, until I press a letter to navigate to the specific entry in the area. Then, when I press arrows, JFW automatically jumps to the icon I have previously selected with a letter, making the tray unusable by standard means.

Any ideas how can I fix it?

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off, I also prefer F11.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:18 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.

Later,

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 

I'll try to put in more simpley:

 

The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 

 

The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:

 

Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.

 

With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.

 

 

Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:

BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.

 

So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.

 

Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.

 

Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.

 

If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.

 

If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!

 

Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 


 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM

Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 




On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Richard Turner
 

For what it is worth, I'm running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, and the keystroke is insert+spacebar, then f11.
Later,



Richard
"There's a nap for that." 

On Mar 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 
I'll try to put in more simpley:
 
The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 
 
The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:
 
Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.
 
With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.
 
 
Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:
BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.
 
So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.
 
Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.
 
Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.
 
If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.
 
If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!
 
Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno

 


moderated Re: JFW and the jumping tray

muhammadBilal Arshad
 

Actually I also had this system tray problem in the past.
But what I figures out is that whenever you presses the application key or enter on any icon, your mouse pointer moves to that icon, so when you press any other key to move to another icon, your mouse pointer is still on the previous icon, so your focus moves to that one.
So, use the mouse, or the keys for mouse movements to moves away the mouse from the system tray. What I use is: presses the numpad minus to activate the JAWS cursor, then presses the alt+shift+upArrow to move the mouse to upwards. then use system tray.mouse pointer 


moderated Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Mike B
 


Well, the iBarstool has nothing to blame here, it was too early in the day for doing 12 ounce curls!  LOL  LOL 
I'll try to put in more simpley:
 
The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. 
 
The layered keystroke feature is when you  hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task.  In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below:
 
Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap the, Print Screen, button.
 
With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off.
 
 
Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings:
BTW,  whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings.
 
So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings.
 
Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open.
 
Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked.  Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off.
 
If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings.
 
If this isn't plain enough, will someone please explain it in an easier fashion?!
 
Okay now it's time for me and the iBarstool to become attached at the seat, so to speak!  LOL  LOL 

 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

Actually, it is in English. It is also readable, just a little hard. Keep in mind that Mike was writing from his famous barstool.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

Can you please retype your response in English? 

I'd like to know the answer to this question as well, but can't read your response. 

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 



On Mar 4, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:



 Press the,Insert + spacebar, letup then press the, Print Screen key.

 

Or to do it in Jaws quick settings:

 

To cee if the, Screen Shade, is on or off go into the quick settings menu with, Insert + V, or Capslock plus v if you are using the laptop layout.

Type, shade, in the search field and down arrow 1 time.  Jaws should report if it's checked or not, and if it isn't press the spacebar to check it then tab to, Okay, and press enter to save / close.


Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 2:21 PM

Subject: Automatically start the screen shade with Jaws

 

Hi,

I once did it. I remember I edited some script file to make it happen but I forgot what and how it was done. Could someone help me in that direction? This is for my friend who has an serious eye problem and he needs to have the curtain on all the time..

I have searched in default.jss but that file seems to change a lot from my last visit in it.

 

Pozdrawiam,

Arkadiusz Świętnicki AKA. Nuno