Date   

Windows Key

Steve & Shannon Cook <cookcafe@...>
 

Where do I go to find my windows activation key on a computer running
windows 7 64 bit? Thanks in advance!

Steve Cook
Steve on Dice World: Steve6009
Steve on Twitter: @SteveCook67
Today I married my best friend.
The one that I laugh with, live for, love.
October 11, 2003


Re: Can I get start up sound back in Windows 10 and the action center with JAWS

 

Hi,
1. Regarding startup sound: I have provided a feedback to Microsoft with
detailed steps to reproducing this bug.
2. Regarding Action Center: You cannot disable it at this time.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: Can I get start up sound back in Windows 10 and the action center
with JAWS

Hi everyone



1. After I have upgraded one of my computer from Windows 8,1 to Windows 10,
the operating system not longer play the start up sound.



On Windows 8.1 I could make a fix via the Windows registry database so the
sound came back, but the fix dont work in Windows 10.



Can I get the start up sound back again, so I as blind can hear when Windows
10 is ready?



2. What is your experience with the new build action center in Windows 10,
and can I disable the action center?



Thanks in advance.



Regards,

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Can I get start up sound back in Windows 10 and the action center with JAWS

Anders Boholdt-Petersen
 

Hi everyone



1. After I have upgraded one of my computer from Windows 8,1 to Windows 10,
the operating system not longer play the start up sound.



On Windows 8.1 I could make a fix via the Windows registry database so the
sound came back, but the fix dont work in Windows 10.



Can I get the start up sound back again, so I as blind can hear when Windows
10 is ready?



2. What is your experience with the new build action center in Windows 10,
and can I disable the action center?



Thanks in advance.



Regards,

Anders

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Removing lock screen from Windows 8.1

Cristóbal
 

Hello list,

I’m trying to set up a Windows 8.1 machine and have more or less got
everything set up and am now trying to get rid of the lock screen that pops
up when turning on the desktop, but am running into difficulties.

I go through the prompts of adding the snag-in as apparently whatever group
policy that is needed was not included in my Win 8.1. When I go through the
steps however, I get an error message more or less saying that this snag-in
may not vve used with this version of Windows 8.1. To manage accounts for
this computer, use the user accounts tool in the control panel.

This isn’t getting me anywhere though.

I’ve poked around online and it seems that this issue isn’t unusual.

Anyway, most solutions entail adding the group policy via the snag-in that I
explained can’t be installed.

I also want to disable the windows hints, but again, same issue.

Has anyone delt with this issue and if so, how did they resolve it?

Using Jaws 16 if it makes any difference. And yes, I know I can also try
upgrading to Windows 10, but don’t wish to do so at the moment



Any help would be appreciated.



Regards,

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Re: how do i make sure that the correct windows are visible?

Mr. Eyeball (AccessTelevision.tv Gmail)
 

You can try Jaws key + F10

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Subject: how do i make sure that the correct windows are visible?

Hi list members, I have another question about Microsoft outlook 2013 and
that is how do I make sure that certain windows are visible while hiding
others? Thank you for any information that you might have concerning this
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Re: Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

JAWS has a help topic on Outlook, which you can access by pressing Insert F1
twice quickly from within Outlook. Among other topics, the help covers
recommended Outlooks settings for the most accessible experience.

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Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:53 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

Is there a comprehensive turtorial on using Outlook 2013 with Jaws? My I SP
recently forced me to give up my comfortable Outlook Express, and I'm now
flying blind, so to speak, with Outlook. I've combed the Freedom Scientific
website, and there's some useful info there, but I can't find anything on
the basics, like configuring Outlook to work easily with Jaws. Such a
tutorial might save a bunch of traffic on this list.



Thanks,



Cliff

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Re: Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

Ann Byrne
 

KathyAnne Mertha has a $90 textbook: access technology institute.

At 04:52 PM 7/31/2015, you wrote:
Is there a comprehensive turtorial on using Outlook 2013 with Jaws? My I SP
recently forced me to give up my comfortable Outlook Express, and I'm now
flying blind, so to speak, with Outlook. I've combed the Freedom Scientific
website, and there's some useful info there, but I can't find anything on
the basics, like configuring Outlook to work easily with Jaws. Such a
tutorial might save a bunch of traffic on this list.



Thanks,



Cliff

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Re: reading screen

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

You may need to press Enter before pressing F6.

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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 4:17 PM
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Subject: reading screen

I went into jaws help by hitting f1.
When I picked the subject and then hit f6 to read the screen, it did not
read it as I hit up or down arrow. I had to hitinsert plus 8 on the num pad
to read the current line.
Did I change something in my jaws setting> What do I need to change so jaws
will read line by line as I go through the help menus?

What is the short cut key to have jaws tell me what key I am hitting?

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Tutorial on Outlook 2013 with Jaws?

Cliff Self
 

Is there a comprehensive turtorial on using Outlook 2013 with Jaws? My I SP
recently forced me to give up my comfortable Outlook Express, and I'm now
flying blind, so to speak, with Outlook. I've combed the Freedom Scientific
website, and there's some useful info there, but I can't find anything on
the basics, like configuring Outlook to work easily with Jaws. Such a
tutorial might save a bunch of traffic on this list.



Thanks,



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reading screen

Mark Furness
 

I went into jaws help by hitting f1.
When I picked the subject and then hit f6 to read the screen, it did not read it as I hit up or down arrow. I had to hitinsert plus 8 on the num pad to read the current line.
Did I change something in my jaws setting> What do I need to change so jaws will read line by line as I go through the help menus?

What is the short cut key to have jaws tell me what key I am hitting?

Mark


Re: Windows 10

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

No, it's free if acquired within the first year. I don't know how updates will work, but this is something different for Ms--a long-term platform, rather than an OS which will be superseded within two years or so

Ted

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Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 12:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Jim Portillo
Subject: Windows 10

Good morning,

It may be too soon to ask, but I know some of you guys probably have been playing with or exploring already.
Has anyone successfully and independently installed and used Windows 10?
I've heard/read a couple of different things about not being able to install it without Narrator or something along those lines.

Also, does anyone know about Windows 10 being free for a limited time before we'd have to actually subscribe to it? I don't like that idea. What would that mean...One day I wake up and my computer wouldn't work any more until I pay money for the Windows service?
I'm a bit confused about that.

Thanks.
Jim


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Re: Windows 10

 

Hi Jim,
A few things:
* Yes, you'll need to use Narrator. But before installing Windows 10, remove
JAWS first (all versions except 16.0.4350).
* You might be thinking of Windows 10 as a subscription service. The good
news is that it isn't - once upgraded within a year, Windows 10 will be
yours forever.
Cheers,
Joseph

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via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 9:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Windows 10

Good morning,

It may be too soon to ask, but I know some of you guys probably have been
playing with or exploring already.
Has anyone successfully and independently installed and used Windows 10?
I've heard/read a couple of different things about not being able to install
it without Narrator or something along those lines.

Also, does anyone know about Windows 10 being free for a limited time before
we'd have to actually subscribe to it? I don't like that idea. What would
that mean...One day I wake up and my computer wouldn't work any more until I
pay money for the Windows service?
I'm a bit confused about that.

Thanks.
Jim


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Windows 10

Jim Portillo
 

Good morning,

It may be too soon to ask, but I know some of you guys probably have been playing with or exploring already.
Has anyone successfully and independently installed and used Windows 10?
I've heard/read a couple of different things about not being able to install it without Narrator or something along those lines.

Also, does anyone know about Windows 10 being free for a limited time before we'd have to actually subscribe to it? I don't like that idea. What would that mean...One day I wake up and my computer wouldn't work any more until I pay money for the Windows service?
I'm a bit confused about that.

Thanks.
Jim


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Re: Microsoft outlook

Adrian Spratt
 

Some time ago, David Whitehead posted the following detailed instructions on how to create a message rule in Outlook 2010.

Message rules
I have made a few changes to the creating a message filter in Microsoft Outlook 2010&2007
here's how I create a message rule/filter in Microsoft outlook 2010.
First I create the folder, By doing the following; Ctrl+shift+e=create new folder. Now type in the name you wish to assign to the folder. Tab once you will hear; Folder contains: Mail and Post Items This is okay, no need to change, Now tab again, You will hear something like; Tree view, and then inbox, and all of the other folders are listed, So, I arrow up to personal folders, or, you could press the letter "p"=personal folders, And then tab to okay, press enter. So now you're folder is created. Next we need to assign a rule/filter to the newly created folder, By doing the following;
1, highlight a message which you wish to create a folder for, Example; One of the messages from this group. Email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com 2, press applications key, up arrow and enter on, Rules sub menu, Or, you could right arrow to open. Another way to do this is: Press applications key, press the letter "s" And then press the letter "u", which will directly place you into the message wizard. Here you will see the following screen; Always Move Messages From: email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
Always Move Messages To: email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
Create Rule... Manage Rules & Alerts... you now need to down arrow and enter on, create rule.... Note, as I indicated, if you use the shortcuts, the letter "s"&"u" no need to arrow anywhere, since you're in the message rule wizard. 3. you will now see a screen; Create Rule When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions From email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com by default this box is unchecked you can check this box.
When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Subject contains [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007, this box is unchecked by default I would leave this box as it is.
When I get e mail with all of the selected conditions Sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com this box is unchecked by default you can check this box. Do the following Display in the New Item Alert window by default this box is unchecked, you can leave as is. Do the following:Play a selected sound: this box is unchecked by default, you can check this box,
Browse... Here you could browse for a specific sound; Move the item to folder:this box is unchecked by default, however you need to check this box, Folder...press enter here, Now, you can arrow to the particular folder, Or, you can letter navigate, Then tab okay, press enter. OK Cancel Advanced Options... now you need to tab and enter on, Advanced options...
4. You will see the following screen;
Rules Wizard Which condition's do you want to check? Step 1: Select condition's checked on this computer only checked from email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com not checked
with RE: [email clients with screen readers] Outlook 2007,... in the subject
checked sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com not checked
with RE: [email clients with screen readers] Outlook...in the subject or
body not checked through the specified account not checked sent only to me where my name is in the To box not checked not checked marked as importance not checked marked as sensitivity not checked flagged for action not checked where my name is in the Cc box not checked where my name is in the To or Cc box not checked where my name is not in the To box not checked with specific words in the body not checked with specific words in the message header not checked with specific words in the recipient's address not checked with specific words in the sender's address Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
and sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com
and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish
This screen is fine, Just tab next and press enter.
5. now you will see the following screen; Rules Wizard What do you want to do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more rules
checked play a sound

checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay, just tab next and press enter.
6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions? Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the next button and press enter.
7. now you're presented with the final screen;
Rules Wizard Finish rule setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on messages already in "email clients with screen readers..." You need to check this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen readers@yahoogroups.com <mailto:email clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop processing more rules Cancel < Back Next Finish Now, tab to finish and press enter.
The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the inbox to they're respective folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has been created.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lelia via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 11:55 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Lelia
Subject: RE: Microsoft outlook

Hi, I am actually using jaws 13 and ms office 2010 and when I go to rules it
won't let me create the rule, I see step one for conditions and step 2 but
it keeps telling me something like I'm not setting the value right.

I am using Jaws 13, ms office 2010 and windows 7

Thanks

Lelia

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: Microsoft outlook

Hello Lelia,
In Jaws 16, Office 2013, and Windows 7, it is in the context menu, down
arrow to rules, left arrow, down arrow to manage rules and alerts, press
enter, and tab, or control tab around in the following warren, and you
should come across what you are looking for, lol.
Cheers Kevin.

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Cc: leliaStruve@gmail.com
Subject: Microsoft outlook

Can any one tell me how to get sounds turned on in Microsoft outlook to
notify me of incoming emails? I am using jaws 13 on a Windows 7 desktop.
With Microsoft office 10 or 2010 Thanks

Lelia

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Re: Microsoft outlook

Lelia <leliastruve@...>
 

Hi, I am actually using jaws 13 and ms office 2010 and when I go to rules it
won't let me create the rule, I see step one for conditions and step 2 but
it keeps telling me something like I'm not setting the value right.

I am using Jaws 13, ms office 2010 and windows 7

Thanks

Lelia

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: Microsoft outlook

Hello Lelia,
In Jaws 16, Office 2013, and Windows 7, it is in the context menu, down
arrow to rules, left arrow, down arrow to manage rules and alerts, press
enter, and tab, or control tab around in the following warren, and you
should come across what you are looking for, lol.
Cheers Kevin.

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via Jfw
Sent: July-30-15 6:45 PM
To : Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: leliaStruve@gmail.com
Subject: Microsoft outlook

Can any one tell me how to get sounds turned on in Microsoft outlook to
notify me of incoming emails? I am using jaws 13 on a Windows 7 desktop.
With Microsoft office 10 or 2010 Thanks

Lelia

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Re: Microsoft outlook

Kane Brolin
 

Aside from just the sound that notifies you of an incoming message,
many functions within Microsoft Office can come with sound
alerts--including when a file is saved or printed. To have full sound
feedback capability in Office, you need to download and install the
Office Sounds add-in, which can be found at
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=7015. This
works in every edition of Office I have ever used, up to and including
2013. (Not sure about how to implement this in Office 365.)

Kind regards,

-Kane


Re: Is anyone familiar with outlook 2013

Kane Brolin
 

David:

I use Outlook 2013 in my workplace. And while I certainly would not
call myself a power user, I have created several folders, and I make
it a point to move manually different kinds of messages into these
different folders after they have entered my inbox.

I go to the Create Folder wizard by pressing Alt, o, and n in
succession. . As soon as I have done this, I reach a dialog box
where I can name my folder. Then I can tab a couple of times to
arrive at the Tree View where I can choose the level in the folder
hierarchy where my new folder is to reside. In other words, just by
using my Arrow keys to manipulate this Tree View, I can choose whether
my new folder will be accessible directly from the root or whether it
will be a subfolder within my Inbox or within some other core folder.

From experience, I also know that if I goof up when placing a newly
created folder, I can move it by manipulating the Folder ribbon as
well so it is fixed the way I want.

David, I know there is a chance you are asking something more complex:
such as, is there a way to make it so messages from different list
addresses go automatically into a prescribed folder other than the
general inbox?
I'm sure a way does exist to create a rule for this purpose, but I
don't know what it is. That would require input from a power user.

Kind regards,

-Kane


Re: Trouble accessing menus in latest iTunes

Feliciano G
 

Hi,
Reboot jaws by pressing jaws key + windows key + F4 hope that helps.

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jun 30, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:


Hi,

Running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit with latest J16.

After opening itunes, I go to the menu bar with an alt key. I can navigate to various menu headings with left right cursor, but nothing I do gets me into a list of options within any given menu category.

This worked fine last night.

I've tried closing an reopening iTunes several times. I've closed JAWS and restarted. Nothing seems to help.

Sometimes I get an announcement of Context menu, but nothing reads when this is up.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Is anyone familiar with outlook 2013

Feliciano G
 

Hi,
Navigate to your mail folders column. There you can find your email folders. You will want to locate your inbox folder that is above your email then press the application key and select new folder.

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On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:51 PM, David Ingram via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi list members, I'm wanting to know if anyone is familiar with outlook
2013? The reason why I ask this question is because I want to create
folders for different messages to go to from different lists that I'm on.
I'd like to make sure that the different folders are all the same level as
my in box. I would appreciate any information that you might have
concerning my inquiry.

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Re: Navigating the New York Times

Adrian Spratt
 

Roger,

Your "mobile version" suggestion works well. The other day I tried Jimmy's suggestion, which also worked well. This morning, I tried yours and found that the mobile version is very close to the print version I've missed for so long. I wish I'd figured it out for myself, but I'm glad you did and that you posted it.

You can make it easier to get to the mobile version link and then to the article's beginning.

1. Create a placemarker at the mobile version link. You do this by placing focus on the link, then pressing shift-control-k to bring up the JAWS placemarker dialog. Tab to "Add," then keep tabbing. You should check the box for all pages on the website and to anchor to text. In the future, each time you link to an article, press k to get right away to the mobile version link.

2. Getting to the start of the article. After clicking on the mobile version link this morning, I found that pressing 1 twice, then 6, landed focus just a line or two above the first sentence. This worked twice, so maybe it's a constant, at least until the next website upgrade.

After that, I pressed "say all" and experienced no interruptions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Roger Levine via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

Hi Jimmy,
I have found that opening the heading of "view mobile version" renders the
articles quite readable friendly. After opening the article link, tab
several times past the section heading and tab to view mobile version. Tab
several more times to the beginning of the article. You will pass several
more heading, but keep going.
Roger

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
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Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 6:38 AM
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It has been a long time since I looked at the times. Does turning off inline
frames and bitmaps still help in the elimination of things you don't want to
hear? I must confess that I have not used flexible web very much.

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Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

Yes, I use all these techniques except for flexible web partly because the
NYT's webpages change from time to time and partly because the method is
just too cumbersome if used across the many websites I visit. In addition to
the minor annoyance of skipping links, etc., with n and other quick
navigation keys, the NYT format alters as I progress down each page.
Eventually lines break up, and I need to refresh. When I refresh, I often
find my focus has shifted elsewhere. I avoid "say all" on the NYT website
because I don't like to sit here as JAWS plows through ads, promotions of
other articles, photo captions, etc.

Navigation just shouldn't be this complicated. It's too distracting, as well
as time-consuming.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

Adrian,
I too miss the print feature. However, I have just gotten used to using my
navigation keys to quickly get around articles. I generally use the 1 key
to skip to the first level heading (usually the main article title), then
use the n (next) key a couple of times to skipp past the various option
info. This will generally get me close to the main text. I then use Say
All or the read paragraph keys to go through the article. I also have set
up flexible web to delete as many of the advertisements as I can. While a
little more cumbersome than the old print function I have found I can get by
pretty well. I also like to use the H (next heading) key on main pages
(such as national news) to skip through the article headings.
-- hope some of this helps --


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
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Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:01 AM
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Subject: Navigating the New York Times

Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website
that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles
impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they
were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then.

I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular
problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article.
However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted
readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the
"print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to
click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog.
Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way
the main article page is.

So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY
Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know
about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be
invaluable.)
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