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Re: When on the net.

Tom Behler
 

FB Ted.

Maybe I'll catch you on the air sometime.

If you want to chat more, or if you want info on a blind hams list I belong
to, write me off list:

tombehler@gmail.com

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 8:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: When on the net.

KD4EXK, 73.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Yeah, I know, Ted.

As an active ham radio operator, I can tell you that the arrl.org web site
drives me nuts too.

I wish we could all figure out a way to tell them about the problems
pertaining to easy accessibility in a way they could understand.

Dr. Tom Behler: amateur call sign KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: When on the net.

That find command is a good one. If you ever want to go stark raving nuts,
visit www.arrl.org. It'll tell you everything you ever wanted to know about
the organization in particular, or ham radio in general, but it'll wear you
out trying to get to a particular link, even if you searched on that link.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a lot,
such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick
navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find searching
for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the content I want,
such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word "helpful." On another
website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me through the content I need,
while yet another website is best navigated with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1 for
heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across web
pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you
very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: Jaws refresher courses?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Never overlook the obvious. You can start with the rather exhaustive documentation (written and oral) that comes with the program, then tap into the sources the other folks are telling you about.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Charles Coe via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Charles Coe
Subject: RE: Jaws refresher courses?

You can get some training on the basics at the FS web page or at the following web site:

www.blindtraining.com

Charles


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shane Clark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Shane Clark
Subject: Jaws refresher courses?

Hello list,
I'm wanting to refresh myself on Jaws for possible employment opportunities down the road. Are there any good online resources yall could recommend that starts from thebasics and work on up? I'm still familiar with Jaws, just hadn'd used a pc in awhile.
Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
Shane.
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Re: When on the net.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Right, Bill. If it works on something as large as a PDF bible, its good--it does, and it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, again, Keith. One thing I've found is that if you're using Adobe PDF Reader, the Control plus F command is not available. So the only way to do an accessible "find" command in Adobe PDF Reader is with JAWS KEY plus CONTROL plus F. Interestingly, when used in this way, it can search the whole PDF document instead of just searching the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. That's what I was thinking. When would one choose to use
the Screen Finder? Off hand, I can't think of a time I would choose that.

Thanks again, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a
webpage, it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There
will usually be more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed
with JAWS KEY plus Control plus F. If you use the screen find command,
the content you are looking for may not currently be on the screen,
but it may be on the web page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a
JAWS find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website
a lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which
quick navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I
find searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest
to the content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews,
the word "helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level
4 takes me through the content I need, while yet another website is
best navigated with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start
with 1 for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time
to experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally
across web pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark
the start of the main content with either heading level 1 or ARIA
regions. If that doesn't work on pages you need to access, try
pressing the letter n, which skips past blocks of links. This
method, however, won't always work either. In short, quick
navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly
to the content of something on the web? I have experimented with
everything that I can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone
can tell me, thanks you very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: When on the net.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

KD4EXK, 73.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Yeah, I know, Ted.

As an active ham radio operator, I can tell you that the arrl.org web site drives me nuts too.

I wish we could all figure out a way to tell them about the problems pertaining to easy accessibility in a way they could understand.

Dr. Tom Behler: amateur call sign KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:26 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: When on the net.

That find command is a good one. If you ever want to go stark raving nuts, visit www.arrl.org. It'll tell you everything you ever wanted to know about the organization in particular, or ham radio in general, but it'll wear you out trying to get to a particular link, even if you searched on that link.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word "helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me through the content I need, while yet another website is best navigated with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1 for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across web pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the main content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't work on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In short, quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to the content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that I can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: When on the net.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We have such links on one or two of the programs we use, but I never bother with them, as I know where I'm going. I wear out my links list on one program. For me, it's the functional equivalent of scrolling. The thing has more links than Carter has liver pills--useful, but you'd never get anywhere in a hurry without a mental road map.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jimmy Jones
Subject: RE: When on the net.

That is a link that skips over all the navigation links at the top of a web page. Not all pages have such a link however.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: When on the net.

That sounds like a link, and should take you directly there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Example, on the AFB site, it said "skip to contents". Thanks.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: When on the net.


Hi, Carolyn. We don't have enough information from you as to what type of
content you are trying to directly navigate to.

With that said, If you are looking for some sort of text on a webpage, you
can use Control plus the letter F when not in a form field, and it will
bring up a search box where you can enter text you're looking for.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: When on the net.


Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to
the content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything
that I can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me,
thanks you very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: Dropbox Automatic File Importing Problem Solved

Rob Hill
 

What was the solution, Tom?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Dropbox Automatic File Importing Problem Solved

Hello.



I just wanted to let everyone know that my recent problem with Dropbox
automatically importing photos from my working thumb drive when inserting
the drive into the computer has been solved.



Thanks to everyone on list who provided all the helpful suggestions. I have
saved them for future reference.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


free accessible web and linked in groupshost

Marvin Hunkin <startrekcafe@...>
 

hi. its marvin here from south australia, australia, Adelaide. wondering,
any one know of any free web hosts, where i can then upload my vb, c #
students

projects. any ideas, e-mail me via startrekcafe@gmail.com, and i am also on
linked in, any other good gaming groups or web design or accessibility
groups.

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Re: Windows 7 book

Tom Lange
 

Hi Gennie,
It's a great book. If you haven't already sent that book to someone, I'm sure my students would love it. We're using the audio version of the book as part of our computer training curriculum, and having a Braille copy on hand would be fabulous. If you like, you can send it to

Tom Lange
Junior Blind of America
5300 Angeles Vista Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90043


Thank you so much for your kind offer.

Sincerely,
Tom Lange

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gennie Eachus" <eachusgm@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:50 PM
Subject: Windows 7 book


Would anyone like a braille copy of "Windows 7 and Vista Explained" by Dr.
Sarah Morley?

It is in five volumes. If interested, please email me off list.



Gennie



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Re: Anyone using Windows10?

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

What does the Mirror Display do? Is it a major component of JAWS?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kenny via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 8:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kenny
Subject: Re: Anyone using Windows10?

Hi carliss, I used the windows 10 preview with jaws 16, and it worked really
well. The only problem is the merror display not being properly installed.
Kenny Peyatt
On 6/9/2015 5:11 PM, Carliss via Jfw wrote:
Hello listers,

`I heard that there are people using window10even though its not being
officially released until July 29. So is anyone out there using it, and if
so, how well is it working with jaws. Right now I'm using Jaws14.

By the way, if you are using windows10 do you like it?

Thanks to all.





Carliss





P.S. There's a button in my sys tray to reserve a spot for a automatic
windows download when Microsoft starts that.





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Re: When on the net.

Gary King
 

I'm not sure how many JAWS versions back it has been this way, but in JAWS 16, when in a browser, Control f and Control JAWS Key f bring up exactly the same JAWS Find dialog. I tested with AUDIBLE.COM, which is a large page. I found the same text at the bottom of the page using either keystroke combination. This was true for both Internet Explorer and Firefox.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


This isn't true. Adding the JAWS key searches the entire webpage, not just the current screen. The practical difference between the two functions is that adding the JAWS key always works, whereas control-f alone doesn't always work. I stopped using control-f years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a webpage,
it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually be
more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus
Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are
looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web
page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: When on the net.


What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a JAWS
find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
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Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a
lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick
navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find
searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the
content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word
"helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me
through the content I need, while yet another website is best navigated
with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1
for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across
web
pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the
main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't
work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In
short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to
the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that
I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you
very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

Kimsan Song <kimsansong@...>
 

The f six is correct if I'm understanding you, there is also alt d,
and function key 4...

On 6/10/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Also f6, pressed either once or twice. It is a
tri-toggle, moving from the screen to the address
bar to the silly toolbars at the top of the
screen. control-f6 moves you from neverland back to the screen.
At 07:16 PM 6/10/2015, you wrote:
So does Alt d. -----Original Message----- From:
Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw Sent: Wednesday,
June 10, 2015 4:58 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows
support list.' Cc: Greg Nickel Subject: RE: how
do I get to the address field when using the
internet? F4 takes you there directly.
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf
Of David Ingram via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, June
10, 2015 2:12 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc:
David Ingram Subject: how do I get to the
address field when using the internet? Hi, list
members, I’m sometimes unsure which key
strokes that I should use when wanting to go to
the address field while using any browser. If
I’m not mistaken I can use f6 twice then I
would hear address and search field. I hope
that this is correct. P.S. I also notice that
when I use web mail and I want to make sure that
the addresses in my known spam folder go to the
blocked senders list how can I make sure that
this is done? I have not been able to select
these messages unless I select them one at a
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Windows 7 book

Gennie Eachus <eachusgm@...>
 

Would anyone like a braille copy of "Windows 7 and Vista Explained" by Dr.
Sarah Morley?

It is in five volumes. If interested, please email me off list.



Gennie



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Re: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

Ann Byrne
 

Also f6, pressed either once or twice. It is a tri-toggle, moving from the screen to the address bar to the silly toolbars at the top of the screen. control-f6 moves you from neverland back to the screen.

At 07:16 PM 6/10/2015, you wrote:
So does Alt d. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:58 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Greg Nickel Subject: RE: how do I get to the address field when using the internet? F4 takes you there directly. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Ingram via Jfw Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:12 PM To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: David Ingram Subject: how do I get to the address field when using the internet? Hi, list members, I’m sometimes unsure which key strokes that I should use when wanting to go to the address field while using any browser. If I’m not mistaken I can use f6 twice then I would hear address and search field. I hope that this is correct. P.S. I also notice that when I use web mail and I want to make sure that the addresses in my known spam folder go to the blocked senders list how can I make sure that this is done? I have not been able to select these messages unless I select them one at a time if I’m correct. Thank you for any information that you might have. --------------
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Re: I3 v. I5 processor from the standpoint of a JAWS User

Brad Martin
 

You've said you're looking at laptops. The differences between I3 and I5 in laptop terms are a bit different from desktops. More important is the processor speed. As Ted told you, memory is your bigger concern. That said, if you can tell me the processor numbers, I can give you a better explanation of what to expect. For instance, I'm looking at datasheets for an I3 4005U and an I3 4000M. There's a much larger difference between those models than say an I3 4000M and an I5 4200M. I used to think a quad core would be better with JAWS because of its ability to multitask, but dual core machines (and both the I3 and I5 are dual in a laptop) have two threads per core, and quad cores often have one thread per core. So four threads either way in most cases.

On another note, if you need better battery life, you may find that the lower power of the ultrabook processors would serve you more than the speed of a more powerful processor.

Ted's got it right though. Memory is the key factor. I have a cheap Windows 7 notebook with an AMD processor that's average, and it does fine for me with JAWS 15. I basically use it like you do with very large PDF documents (tax books) etc. I haven't used JAWS on an I3 ultrabook, but I've used NVDA on same, and it handled fine. But it had 6 GB of RAM, and that made me happy.

As the subject of processors could get way off topic, feel free to email me off list with specific processor numbers if you want more detail on them. brad@formyfriends.org

Brad

On 6/10/2015 3:52 AM, Rahul Bajaj via Jfw wrote:
Hi All,

I am planning to buy a new laptop and am confused between two
machines: Dell Inspiron 3148 and 7348. My confusion stems from the
fact that the former runs on an I3 processor, whereas the latter runs
on an I5 processor. While I have been able to acquire a fairly
detailed understanding of the differences between these two on the
basis of some online research, I would be extremely grateful if any of
you could speak to the differences between these 2 processors from the
standpoint of a JAWS user. More specifically, I am a law student and
use my laptop for reading a lot of documents, using MS Office, email,
social networking and am acquired to use highly advanced MS Word
functions like track changes and footnotes all the time. Further, I
have to work with multiple applications like Adobe Reader, MS Word and
a web browser simultaneously. I am really frustrated with the
performance of the machine that I currently have, as it runs on a Dual
Core processor and merely has 2gb RAM.
While I am really keen to go for the Inspiron 7348, it is a lot more
expensive than the 3148 which is why I am not sure which one I should
choose.
Any concrete suggestions would be immensely appreciated.

Best,
Rahul

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Re: When on the net.

Adrian Spratt
 

I'm on the Net a good part of the day on all kinds of websites, and the only time that message comes up is when the search string isn't anywhere there. I remember there was a time when control-f didn't work on Firefox, which was when I decided to add the JAWS key as my default. Control-f, as you know, is a Microsoft command, so it isn't necessarily going to work on all browsers. Outside browsers, as you posted, control-f doesn't work in PDF files, and it also doesn't work on some non-MS word processors.

Perhaps control-JAWS key-f once was limited to the screen, the way Convenient OCR began life, but it is no longer restricted.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Well, it doesn't work that way for me. When I use the screen find command, I
often get "Search String Not Found".
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


This isn't true. Adding the JAWS key searches the entire webpage, not just
the current screen. The practical difference between the two functions is
that adding the JAWS key always works, whereas control-f alone doesn't
always work. I stopped using control-f years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a
webpage,
it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually
be
more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus
Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are
looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web
page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a
JAWS
find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a
lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick
navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find
searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the
content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word
"helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me
through the content I need, while yet another website is best navigated
with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1
for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across
web
pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the
main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't
work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In
short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to
the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything
that
I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks
you
very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Dropbox Automatic File Importing Problem Solved

Tom Behler
 

Hello.



I just wanted to let everyone know that my recent problem with Dropbox
automatically importing photos from my working thumb drive when inserting
the drive into the computer has been solved.



Thanks to everyone on list who provided all the helpful suggestions. I have
saved them for future reference.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: When on the net.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Well, it doesn't work that way for me. When I use the screen find command, I often get "Search String Not Found".
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


This isn't true. Adding the JAWS key searches the entire webpage, not just the current screen. The practical difference between the two functions is that adding the JAWS key always works, whereas control-f alone doesn't always work. I stopped using control-f years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a webpage,
it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually be
more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus
Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are
looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web
page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM
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Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
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Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a JAWS
find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a
lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick
navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find
searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the
content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word
"helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me
through the content I need, while yet another website is best navigated
with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1
for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across
web
pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the
main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't
work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In
short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to
the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that
I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you
very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: When on the net.

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Gary. Even when I am reading a large document in Adobe PDF Reader, I do not set it to only read visible pages. I know it is slower this way, but it gives me the opportunity to select blocks of text, and to put them into a Word document, or to paste them into an e-mail. With it set to only read visible pages, you have minimal control over what you can select and copy.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: When on the net.


Bill,
In order for the JAWS Key plus Control plus f to search the entire PDF document, Adobe Reader must be set to read the entire document under Reading in Preferences. It might be set differently for large documents.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: When on the net.


Hi, again, Keith. One thing I've found is that if you're using Adobe PDF Reader, the Control plus F command is not available. So the only way to do an accessible "find" command in Adobe PDF Reader is with JAWS KEY plus CONTROL plus F. Interestingly, when used in this way, it can search the whole PDF document instead of just searching the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. That's what I was thinking. When would one choose to use the Screen Finder? Off hand, I can't think of a time I would choose that.

Thanks again, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a webpage, it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually be more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

-----Original Message-----
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White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a
JAWS find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website
a lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which
quick navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I
find searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest
to the content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the
word "helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4
takes me through the content I need, while yet another website is
best navigated with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start
with 1 for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally
across web pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the
start of the main content with either heading level 1 or ARIA
regions. If that doesn't work on pages you need to access, try
pressing the letter n, which skips past blocks of links. This
method, however, won't always work either. In short, quick
navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
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Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly
to the content of something on the web? I have experimented with
everything that I can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone
can tell me, thanks you very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: When on the net.

Adrian Spratt
 

This isn't true. Adding the JAWS key searches the entire webpage, not just the current screen. The practical difference between the two functions is that adding the JAWS key always works, whereas control-f alone doesn't always work. I stopped using control-f years ago.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a webpage,
it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually be
more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus
Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are
looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web
page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a JAWS
find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website a
lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which quick
navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I find
searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest to the
content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the word
"helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4 takes me
through the content I need, while yet another website is best navigated
with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start with 1
for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally across
web
pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the start of the
main
content with either heading level 1 or ARIA regions. If that doesn't
work
on pages you need to access, try pressing the letter n, which skips past
blocks of links. This method, however, won't always work either. In
short,
quick navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly to
the
content of something on the web? I have experimented with everything that
I
can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone can tell me, thanks you
very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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Re: When on the net.

Gary King
 

Bill,
In order for the JAWS Key plus Control plus f to search the entire PDF document, Adobe Reader must be set to read the entire document under Reading in Preferences. It might be set differently for large documents.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: When on the net.


Hi, again, Keith. One thing I've found is that if you're using Adobe PDF Reader, the Control plus F command is not available. So the only way to do an accessible "find" command in Adobe PDF Reader is with JAWS KEY plus CONTROL plus F. Interestingly, when used in this way, it can search the whole PDF document instead of just searching the screen.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:09 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. That's what I was thinking. When would one choose to use the Screen Finder? Off hand, I can't think of a time I would choose that.

Thanks again, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

The practical impact is that if you want to look for something on a webpage, it's better to use Control plus F to find the content. There will usually be more in that buffer than in the screen buffer accessed with JAWS KEY plus Control plus F. If you use the screen find command, the content you are looking for may not currently be on the screen, but it may be on the web page itself.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


Thanks, Bill. What's the practical impact of this difference? Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: When on the net.

Hi, Keith. JAWS Key plus Control plus F finds content on your screen.
Control plus F finds content on the entire page stored in the buffer.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: When on the net.


What's the difference between a virtual find with Control + F, and a
JAWS find with Control + JAWS key + F?

Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: When on the net.

All true. The corollary is that when you find you're using a website
a lot, such as Amazon or your local newspaper, try to remember which
quick navigation keys work well on it. For example, with Amazon, I
find searching for text with control-JAWS key-f gets me the fastest
to the content I want, such as "product details" or, for reviews, the
word "helpful." On another website, pressing 4 for heading level 4
takes me through the content I need, while yet another website is
best navigated with 3 for heading level 3.

The most time is consumed with unfamiliar websites. Here, I start
with 1 for heading level 1, then n. If those don't work, it's time to
experiment.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 1:32 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: When on the net.

Carolyn,

There is no "skip to content" JAWS command that works universally
across web pages. Fortunately, more and more web developers mark the
start of the main content with either heading level 1 or ARIA
regions. If that doesn't work on pages you need to access, try
pressing the letter n, which skips past blocks of links. This
method, however, won't always work either. In short, quick
navigation to the main content is very much page-specific.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: When on the net.

Does anyone know what commands to use when attempting to go directly
to the content of something on the web? I have experimented with
everything that I can imagine with the help of JAWS Help. If anyone
can tell me, thanks you very much in advance.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn
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