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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Niall Gallagher <nialljg91@...>
 

Hi Kevin,

jAWS Key + T should do it.

Kind regards,

Niall

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.
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Title of MS Word Document

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thank you.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Carolyn,

With the PC cursor at the location you wish to mark, press Ctrl Shift K to
bring up the placemarker dialogue box. From there pressing Enter should
activate the button to add a placemarker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be
useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker
to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose
of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Control-shift-k. You land on a field where there will be a list of placemarkers if you already have any, which I assume you don't. Tab once to the "Add..." button and press spacebar. From there, tab through the options. Earlier posts today comment on some of these options, such as "anchor to text," "define for all pages domain," etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be
useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker
to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose
of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Carolyn,

With the PC cursor at the location you wish to mark, press Ctrl Shift K to
bring up the placemarker dialogue box. From there pressing Enter should
activate the button to add a placemarker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be
useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker
to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose
of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Great point!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

This is a useful point about anchoring to text for certain webpages, but
anchoring text is still advisable for other websites and situations.
Remember, Ed refers to online documents. For myself, I find anchoring to
text so useful in website navigation that I will set a placemarker at
permanent text nearby instead of exactly on the spot I want if I know the
text there will change.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I use
all the time, including a document management Web App that I access (keep
loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k key,
which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker often
skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K to go
backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker. Sometimes it
does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been assuming
that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable because of the
peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I know
it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the element
will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be linked
to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my thinking is
backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue with my
thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

This is a useful point about anchoring to text for certain webpages, but anchoring text is still advisable for other websites and situations. Remember, Ed refers to online documents. For myself, I find anchoring to text so useful in website navigation that I will set a placemarker at permanent text nearby instead of exactly on the spot I want if I know the text there will change.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Yes, as confirmed in JAWS identifier mode.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 11:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Is control, windows K, and control shift K the difference between permanent
and temporary?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

Surf's Up may be out of date. I just went to the Internet and then into key identifier mode with insert-1. Nothing is verbalized when I press Win key-k, but when I press control-shift-k, JAWS says, "brings up the placemarkers list dialog." I use placemarkers extensively, and control-shift-k has set permanent placemarkers every time.

In my experience, placemarkers tend to be unreliable unless they're set at links. I don't know why, and nothing in the JAWS materials says this should be the case. I always anchor the placemarker to text, but sometimes setting it for the entire domain adds needless placemarkers on other pages within the domain.

I suspect the fewer placemarkers, the more reliable they are. Besides, it saves skipping past placemarkers I never or rarely use.

I'm using JAWS 16. I have a vague memory that the placemarker keystrokes changed several versions ago.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Is control, windows K, and control shift K the difference between permanent and temporary?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Maria Campbell
 

I didn't know how to review place markers, and I probably will forget it quickly but thanks for this key combo.

On 6/14/2015 9:52 AM, david via Jfw wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.

At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

david <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using,
but, the keystroke for creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k,
I'm using jaws 16,
the keystroke is ctrl+shift+k,
now tab to add,
also, alt+windows+k will announce the various place markers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Maria Campbell
 

Place markers are the greatest things since the wheel, to my thinking. I use them all the time and have no problems. I just anchor to text and leave the domain checked.

On 6/14/2015 5:00 AM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:
With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

the steps sound right to me. I do find, though, that if the cursor is below the placemarkers, it doesn't wrap to the top to find them. So if JAWS doesn't find the placemarker I hit control-home and try again. Shift-k would be faster, though.

At 04:00 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
 

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: virus protection, sound and video editing

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

It is reliable; that is why I use it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: virus protection, sound and video editing

Isn't Avira reliable? An IBM engineer recommended it to my son, and we all
use it.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michal Nowicki via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: virus protection, sound and video editing


I use Avira, even though it is no longer accessible, because it does a good
job protecting my computer, and because it does not take up a lot of
resources. I too am running JAWS on Windows 8.1.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Deidre
Muccio
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 8:41 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Deidre Muccio
Subject: virus protection, sound and video editing

Hello,
I will have a new computer set up soon. I will be running Windows 8.1,
with
16 ggs RAM and a lot of storage space. I'll update to J16 Home.
Can anyone tell me what free virus protection should I consider using that
is accessible and would do a good job of protecting my new computer? I use
AVG on my current XP computer and though I might have some strange stuff
happen on occasion, I've never lost files or rarely have gotten mailings
from suspicious senders.

Also, I have used sound Recorder in years past to edit sound files. Is
anyone using it with J16 and Windows 8.1 and finding it easy to use?

Is anyone using a video editor that is accessible with J16? All I
would need to do is cut files up not embellish them in any way. I
obviously
would need the audio to be running while I trimmed so I could know where
to
trim based on that. I don't need a professional program to play with sound
quality or any of that though probably all the programs include that.

Thanks.

Deidre


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Re: help with Google Docs, please tell me how to get rid of Google docs

roydubriel@...
 

Hello everyone,as I said in the subject line I think I have Google doc ,at least there is not an empty space between each word I type. When I read-word-by word, Jawssays dot or doc. this is annoying and I have to read each wordto make sure that there is a space and not somekind of punctuation mark between the words.

If I can send Google out beyond the sun,I will be happy!I do not like Google and all of its works!

I thank you.

Roy Dubriel .

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:03 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Paul Martz
Subject: RE: help with Google Docs

Hm. I downloaded the MS Windows Google Docs app, and that lets me view my
Google Docs directory as if it were a part of the Windows filesystem (that
is, I can access Google Docs files using Windows Explorer).

But I've never had anyone share a doc with me using Google Docs, so I'm not
sure how shared docs would show up using this interface. But if you could
get this to work, then accessing the shared doc would be a no-brainer.
-Paul




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