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Re: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Wish we'd contracted with them instead of Xerox, but that's another story.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Johan van Zyl via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Johan van Zyl
Subject: Re: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

I using CRM for the last 8 year with jaws Like they say The developers must be up to date with jaws, but 99% jaws and CRM works fine.

On 6/15/15, Michael Mote via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I have seen the Microsoft Dynamic program in a call center
environment. I have several clients who run this using JAWS. We did
have to do some scripting for the combo boxes that are used in the
CRM, but I believe that was in large part due to the way the
developers created the drop down menus.
It does work fairly well with JAWS, but again, the developers need to
be advised to properly code it correctly. When I say code, I mean tag
buttons and labels with text so that JAWS will read the element name properly.
Hope
this helps!


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Brolin via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:31 PM
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Cc: Kane Brolin; Doug.Lee@ssbbartgroup.com
Subject: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Greetings.

Does anyone happen to have experience using this program with JAWS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics_CRM

By the end of the year, my company of affiliation plans to have rolled
out a newly self-developed program to handle CRM, and I have been
invited to take part in a beta test so this program can be made
accessible. So for those in tech-driven, compliance-oriented sales
environments who have experience with client relationship management
software, what programs do you recommend as being most compatible with
JAWS off the shelf? Or which ones can be most easily scripted?

Thanks to anyone who sees fit to help answer my queries.

-Kane

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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

As I recall, the training material said something about it early on, and I thought, "That's for me." I have never understood why Word can't do what WordPerfect and DisplayWrite could do decades ago, and what Excel can also do--bring you in where you left off without fuss and bother!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 8:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

I had no idea placemarkers would work in Word. This is awesome!
At 06:57 AM 6/16/2015, you wrote:
I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert
function in Word. Defining temporary, they stay after you close the
document, but are superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect
for my purpose.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
announce the various place markers.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately,
I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that
I use all the time, including a document management Web App that I
access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to
PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift
K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know
the element will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

And all this time I thought you knew all there was to know about Jaws, lol.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 5:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

I had no idea placemarkers would work in Word. This is awesome!
At 06:57 AM 6/16/2015, you wrote:
I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert function in Word. Defining temporary, they stay after you close the document, but are superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect for my purpose.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I
use all the time, including a document management Web App that I access
(keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k
key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker
often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K
to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the
element will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Johan van Zyl <johan.vanzll@...>
 

I using CRM for the last 8 year with jaws
Like they say
The developers must be up to date with jaws, but 99% jaws and CRM works fine.

On 6/15/15, Michael Mote via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I have seen the Microsoft Dynamic program in a call center environment. I
have several clients who run this using JAWS. We did have to do some
scripting for the combo boxes that are used in the CRM, but I believe that
was in large part due to the way the developers created the drop down
menus.
It does work fairly well with JAWS, but again, the developers need to be
advised to properly code it correctly. When I say code, I mean tag buttons
and labels with text so that JAWS will read the element name properly.
Hope
this helps!


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kane Brolin; Doug.Lee@ssbbartgroup.com
Subject: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Greetings.

Does anyone happen to have experience using this program with JAWS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics_CRM

By the end of the year, my company of affiliation plans to have rolled out
a
newly self-developed program to handle CRM, and I have been invited to take
part in a beta test so this program can be made accessible. So for those
in
tech-driven, compliance-oriented sales environments who have experience
with
client relationship management software, what programs do you recommend as
being most compatible with JAWS off the shelf? Or which ones can be most
easily scripted?

Thanks to anyone who sees fit to help answer my queries.

-Kane

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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

I had no idea placemarkers would work in Word. This is awesome!

At 06:57 AM 6/16/2015, you wrote:
I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert function in Word. Defining temporary, they stay after you close the document, but are superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect for my purpose.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I
use all the time, including a document management Web App that I access
(keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k
key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker
often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K
to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the
element will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I use them in Word documents, rather than the equivalent Insert function in Word. Defining temporary, they stay after you close the document, but are superseded by the next one, which makes them perfect for my purpose.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
announce the various place markers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I
use all the time, including a document management Web App that I access
(keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k
key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker
often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K
to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the
element will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Yes, but Ctrl Windows K creates a "temporary" placemarker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

You can also do it directly with Ctrl-Windows-K; Alt-Windows-K will allow
you to return to your place.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Thank you.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Carolyn,

With the PC cursor at the location you wish to mark, press Ctrl Shift K to
bring up the placemarker dialogue box. From there pressing Enter should
activate the button to add a placemarker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be
useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker
to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose
of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Michael Mote
 

I have seen the Microsoft Dynamic program in a call center environment. I
have several clients who run this using JAWS. We did have to do some
scripting for the combo boxes that are used in the CRM, but I believe that
was in large part due to the way the developers created the drop down menus.
It does work fairly well with JAWS, but again, the developers need to be
advised to properly code it correctly. When I say code, I mean tag buttons
and labels with text so that JAWS will read the element name properly. Hope
this helps!

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kane Brolin; Doug.Lee@ssbbartgroup.com
Subject: Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Greetings.

Does anyone happen to have experience using this program with JAWS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics_CRM

By the end of the year, my company of affiliation plans to have rolled out a
newly self-developed program to handle CRM, and I have been invited to take
part in a beta test so this program can be made accessible. So for those in
tech-driven, compliance-oriented sales environments who have experience with
client relationship management software, what programs do you recommend as
being most compatible with JAWS off the shelf? Or which ones can be most
easily scripted?

Thanks to anyone who sees fit to help answer my queries.

-Kane

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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Great that that was a solution. I read yours before I got to Ann's and made the same suggestion. I'll keep that in mind when I get my new computer.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kevin Hourigan" <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document


Hello Anne,
You got it. I pressed F6 to "Full Screen Reading Button", and Voila!
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document

Is the screen maximized?
At 11:30 AM 6/15/2015, you wrote:
Apologies, I am using Jaws 16, Windows 7, 64 bit, and MS Word 2010. Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:10 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: RE: Title of MS Word Document That's interesting, as I don't have this issue; when I press Insert T, JAWS does read the name of the Word document. I am using JAWS 16, Windows 8.1, and Word 2013. Perhaps there is a JAWS bug impacting some systems, but not others? -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:54 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document Hi, I have the same issue with Word 2013 and Jaws 15 and 16. Pressing insert + T results in Jaws saying “Print view”, but it doesn’t read the title. To find out the title, I must alt tab away and back to the document. Very Annoying. Any ideas? Thanks, Russell > On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw > <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote: > > Good morning Listers,
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Microsoft Dynamics CRM

Kane Brolin
 

Greetings.

Does anyone happen to have experience using this program with JAWS?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Dynamics_CRM

By the end of the year, my company of affiliation plans to have rolled
out a newly self-developed program to handle CRM, and I have been
invited to take part in a beta test so this program can be made
accessible. So for those in tech-driven, compliance-oriented sales
environments who have experience with client relationship management
software, what programs do you recommend as being most compatible with
JAWS off the shelf? Or which ones can be most easily scripted?

Thanks to anyone who sees fit to help answer my queries.

-Kane


Re: Title of MS Word Document

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

That being the case, would maximizing screen help?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Title of MS Word Document


This sounds like a reason to contact FS tech support. JAWS is reading the last part of the title that it still reads correctly in Word 2010. So it seems the JAWS insert-t command is no longer capturing the entire field of desired information in Word 2013.

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:54 AM
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Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document

Hi,

I have the same issue with Word 2013 and Jaws 15 and 16. Pressing insert + T results in Jaws saying “Print view”, but it doesn’t read the title. To find out the title, I must alt tab away and back to the document. Very Annoying.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Russell
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Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Will it tell you the title if you route JAWS to PC?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document


Hi,

I have the same issue with Word 2013 and Jaws 15 and 16. Pressing insert + T results in Jaws saying “Print view”, but it doesn’t read the title. To find out the title, I must alt tab away and back to the document. Very Annoying.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Russell
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Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Well, the Control lasts as long as I need it, until the next reading or editing session, but that's great to know.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 11:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Yes, as confirmed in JAWS identifier mode.

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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 11:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Is control, windows K, and control shift K the difference between permanent and temporary?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

According to Surf's Up,Control-windows-k creates a temporary placemarker.
At 08:52 AM 6/14/2015, you wrote:
hello;
not sure of which version of jaws your using, but, the keystroke for
creating place markers, isn't ctrl+windows+k, I'm using jaws 16, the
keystroke is ctrl+shift+k, now tab to add, also, alt+windows+k will
announce the various place markers.



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Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list lately, I
thought I would raise a question that has been bugging me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications that I
use all the time, including a document management Web App that I access
(keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers always
work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain, but the k
key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker to PlaceMarker
often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit shift K
to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy PlaceMarker.
Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly reliable
because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am doing
something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text (if I
know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if I know the
element will always be on screen within the application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of the
PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible that the
opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should be
linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps my
thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll continue
with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Insert t will get JAWS to read title of wherever you are.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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Cc: "Kevin Hourigan" <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:23 AM
Subject: Title of MS Word Document


Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
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Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You can also do it directly with Ctrl-Windows-K; Alt-Windows-K will allow you to return to your place.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

Thank you.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Carolyn,

With the PC cursor at the location you wish to mark, press Ctrl Shift K to
bring up the placemarker dialogue box. From there pressing Enter should
activate the button to add a placemarker.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 6:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

How do you set a place marker?

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: PlaceMarkers and JAWS


Hi Ed,

I don't know the reason(s) behind your use of placemarkers, but your
thinking regarding placemarker reliability may, in fact, be backwards. I
use placemarkers within Internet Explorer, primarily on web pages I visit
frequently, where it is difficult to find the main content. For example,
some news sites don't have "skip to content" links, mark the start of
articles with a heading or ARIA region, or offer the ability to press the
letter n to skip to the next non-link block of texts efficiently due to
multiple lists of links at the top of the page. Therefore, it can be
useful
to create a "main content" placemarker on these sites to facilitate
navigation. In this situation, it is necessary to assign the placemarker
to
the entire domain, but anchoring it to specific text defeats the purpose
of
the placemarker, since the start of the main content likely contains
different text on each page within the website (e.g. article title). I
hope this helps.

Michal

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ed
Marquette
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 4:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: PlaceMarkers and JAWS

With so much good Internet advice flying around on this list
lately, I thought I would raise a question that has been bugging
me.

I use PlaceMarkers frequently, especially with Web applications
that I use all the time, including a document management Web App
that I access (keep loaded all the time) daily.

I'm wondering if there is a strategy to ensure that PlaceMarkers
always work. Frankly, the PlaceMarkers I have set tend to remain,
but the k key, which is supposed serially to jump from placeMarker
to PlaceMarker often skips PlaceMarkers that I know are there.
Sometimes, after JAWS has skipped over a PlaceMarker I can hit
shift K to go backwards, and sometimes JAWS will find the shy
PlaceMarker. Sometimes it does not.

Years ago, I had the same problem with WindowEyes, and have been
assuming that PlaceMarkers are just flakey and not terribly
reliable because of the peculiarities of the Net.

No one has told me that, and it occurred to me that I perhaps am
doing something wrong.

Here is what I do:

1. Press Control plus windows plus K

2. Choose Add PlaceMarker

3. accept the default name, link to text, use the default text
(if I know it is going to be constant), and choose domain only if
I know the element will always be on screen within the
application.

Linking to text seems like it ought to increase the reliability of
the PlaceMarker, but I do not think that is true. Is it possible
that the opposite is true?

I think I'm making the right choice in indicating when it should
be linked to the domain instead of the specific page, but perhaps
my thinking is backwards.

If everyone else has the same reliability issues, then I'll
continue with my thought that PlaceMarkers are just flakey.



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question about cursor tracking in MS Word with Magic and Jaws

Amy Bower
 

Hi again -

I'm wondering if anyone else using Magic and Jaws simultaneously has any
issues with cursor tracking in MS Word (in Office 2010 or Office 2013). I'm
finding that sometimes, the cursor is not tracked/followed when I'm
navigating word-to-word or line-to-line, but only if I do a SayAll. Under
the Magic tracking options, I have all the radio buttons on "center" as
opposed to "edge". I also have "track cursors...." checked. I've checked
that I have the default theme and display size(100%). Any other suggestions
welcome, offline please, at abower@whoi.edu. Thanks much.

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question about accessible text editors for scripting

Amy Bower
 

Hi All - I'm looking for an accessible text editor (Windows) for writing
program scripts (specifically for Matlab, which is somewhat like C but
unique to Matlab). I've tried EdSharp and it works pretty well, but looking
for something else that is updated. I use both Jaws and Magic, and need the
editor to work with both simultaneously. I've looked into UltraEdit, and as
others have reported, it seems to work well with Jaws, but Magic only
tracked the cursor in SayAll, not when I move word to word or line to line.
Whatever editor I use has to have a Go To Line command for debugging. I
think that rules out Notepad and Wordpad. I've read that Notepad++ is not
that accessible. I looked into emacs and emacspeak, but these seemd to have
steep learning curves. Not that interested in them.

Suggestions welcome, offline please, at abower@whoi.edu.

Thanks.

-Amy B.

P.S. I'm running on two Windows 7, 64-bit platforms, one has Magic 12, Jaws
16 and MS Office 12, and the other has Magic 13, Jaws 16 and MS Office 2013.



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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Michael B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Kevin,

I was reading a tutorial by David Bales at;

http://goo.gl/uu3XW

In this tutorial he talks about using the, Windows Key + Up Arrow keystroke
for maximizing windows. Apparently in Windows7 you can invoke this
keystroke on any window you want to maximize & Windows7 will maximize the
window & remember the setting so you don't have to maximize it again. This
maximize keystroke only maximizes the window during the current session of
the computer use. It won't remember the maximized window after a reboot or
restart. Hope this helps. Take care.

You can also set MS Word so it's maximized whenever you open it by doing the
following:
if you want to have MS Word open in the maximized state whenever it's
opened,
go into the MS Word shortcut properties/shortcut page,
set the, run combo box, to maximize, apply & okay. Now Word should open in
the maximized state every time you open it, if opening using the shortcut
icon.
no need for the windows-key+up or down arrow for maximizing / minimizing.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iGoDodgersBarstool.

Take Care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iGoDodgersBarstool.

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To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:23 AM
Subject: Title of MS Word Document


Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word document,
please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.
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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Anne,
You got it. I pressed F6 to "Full Screen Reading Button", and Voila!
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ann Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:42 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document

Is the screen maximized?
At 11:30 AM 6/15/2015, you wrote:
Apologies, I am using Jaws 16, Windows 7, 64 bit, and MS Word 2010. Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:10 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Michal Nowicki Subject: RE: Title of MS Word Document That's interesting, as I don't have this issue; when I press Insert T, JAWS does read the name of the Word document. I am using JAWS 16, Windows 8.1, and Word 2013. Perhaps there is a JAWS bug impacting some systems, but not others? -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:54 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document Hi, I have the same issue with Word 2013 and Jaws 15 and 16. Pressing insert + T results in Jaws saying “Print view”, but it doesn’t read the title. To find out the title, I must alt tab away and back to the document. Very Annoying. Any ideas? Thanks, Russell > On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw > <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote: > > Good morning Listers,
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Re: Title of MS Word Document

Tom Behler
 

For what it's worth, Insert T reads MS Word document titles here with no problem. I'm using Jaws 14 and Microsoft office 2010 on a Windows 7 64-bit computer.

It would be interesting to check on my windows 7 64-bit office laptop, which uses Jaws 16 with office 2010, which I will do when I think of it later.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Title of MS Word Document

Apologies, I am using Jaws 16, Windows 7, 64 bit, and MS Word 2010.
Cheers Kevin.

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From: Michal Nowicki via Jfw
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Subject: RE: Title of MS Word Document

That's interesting, as I don't have this issue; when I press Insert T, JAWS does read the name of the Word document. I am using JAWS 16, Windows 8.1, and Word 2013. Perhaps there is a JAWS bug impacting some systems, but not others?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
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Hi,

I have the same issue with Word 2013 and Jaws 15 and 16. Pressing insert + T results in Jaws saying “Print view”, but it doesn’t read the title. To find out the title, I must alt tab away and back to the document. Very Annoying.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 15, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
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Good morning Listers,
Is there a key stroke to get Jaws to read the title of a word
document, please? Right now I alt tab away and back to get it.
Thank you,
Cheers Kevin.
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