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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Thanks for making this more clear. Andre

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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:59 PM
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Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I don't see why not. Before they do anything, though, make sure to retrieve
your Windows 10 product key. Otherwise, you may not be able to activate
Windows 10.

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Cc: Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

My computer needs repair. Can tech take all software off hard disc, put
win10 and Office 2010 then download J16 without doing a repair on J16?

Could be a silly question but I would like to know for sure.

Thanks

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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:45 AM
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Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Because the upgrade will change technical components and the way jaws
interact with windows so you must repair jaws.
So josef, just too things. If I use the media creation tool, can I build an
iso wich include a product key and where will I find the key if it being the
case? And also, will I stil need sighted help or a talking desktop bootable
when using that tool for install? If not, does that mean you build the
complete install, or just the windows iso you need like it comes on the dvd?

On 08/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and
Jenna via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are
upgraded you need to run a repair on jaws.

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Portillo via Jfw
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Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want
to make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Nermin
 

Hi Pablo,

I don't think it has anything to do with age.
If you want to go back to Windows 7, there is an easier way.
From within Windows 10, you can downgrade and restore the old system during
30 days from the point of installation. Try to see if that works. You won't have to fiddle with JAWS activations, and your authorisation number should be retained.
And no, you cannot put the authorisation back onto the FS server.


And here's a tip for anyone wanting to spare the hastle when reinstalling.
Provided your machine stays the same and does not change its locking code after a reinstall, you can always authorise JAWS by putting JAWS.cps back onto the drive.
This file can be found in c:\program Files\Freedom Scientific\Activator.

Copy that to a save place, and whenever you have to reinstall your OS, copy it back to the same place.
You will not have to reauthorise, provided the locking code of the machine hasn't changed.

Regards,
Nermin


Basics of Scripting Manual

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

The JAWS Basics of Scripting Manual is located here:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/ScriptManual/01-0_I
ntroduction.htm

I found a reference to this in the JAWS help topics, under Script Manager,
but the link in the help topic erroneously took me to the Freedom Scientific
downloads page. So, I did a web search to find where it actually lives, and
thought I'd post it here.
-Paul


Re: balarc advisor:

Charles Krugman
 

regardless if its compatible you could copy the product key information from Belarc advisor in to a word document and enter it that way.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 2:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kenny
Subject: balarc advisor:

Hi what version of balarc advisor is compatible with windows 10?
Kenny Peyatt

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removing jaws license

Pablo Morales
 

Hi all guys,

I think that my old computer, doesn't like windows 10 so much, and it is
working very slow, opening programs like Outlook 2007, it takes forever to
open. So I am thinking that probably will be healthy for my old computer go
back to windows 7. I have been reading on internet, that If I have the media
of windows 7, I just need to reinstall windows 7 on my computer like
formatting the whole hard drive. But I am trying to keep my jaws
authorization key, and I read that if I uninstall the license on my older
computer, I will not add this key in the fs server, so I will need to call
FS and ask them another key. It is true?
It doesn't make any sense, but can someone confirm that if I uninstall the
license in my computer, I will not be able to use it again, unless I call FS
and ask them for another key?
Thanks


Re: Installation of Windows 10

Pablo Morales
 

Yes Mike, it is what FS recommend. Running windows 10, if you were running
windows 8.x or windows 7, they recommend to repair jaws.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mote via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:02 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike Mote
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hello! I hate to correct anyone on the list, but I have to say that just
because you are running Windows 8.1 does not mean you won't have to do a
JAWS repair. I installed Windows 10 last night, and upon turning on my
computer this morning, I got a message saying that the mirror display driver
was not working properly. I did indeed have to run a JAWS repair. I was
running the latest build of JAWS 16 as the FS instructions stated you had to
install first. Not sure why this happened. Those of you who are upgrading
from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 may encounter the same thing I did. Not to
worry, once you run the repair, all seems to work OK.


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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:08 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: David Jennette <dcjenn@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

If your upgrading from windows seven you'll have to do the repair so the
mirror display driver can be removed. If your upgrading from windows 8.1
you won't need to do a repair at all because it and windows ten access
things the same way.

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Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:45 AM
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Cc: Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Because the upgrade will change technical components and the way jaws
interact with windows so you must repair jaws.
So josef, just too things. If I use the media creation tool, can I build an
iso wich include a product key and where will I find the key if it being the
case? And also, will I stil need sighted help or a talking desktop bootable
when using that tool for install? If not, does that mean you build the
complete install, or just the windows iso you need like it comes on the dvd?

On 08/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and
Jenna via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are
upgraded you need to run a repair on jaws.

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Portillo via Jfw
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Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want
to make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

 

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core, that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine, some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: Nermin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Pablo Morales
 

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core, that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine, some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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From: Nermin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: balarc advisor:

 

Hi,
8.5.
Cheers,
Joseph

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 17:57:29 -0400
Subject: balarc advisor:

Hi what version of balarc advisor is compatible with windows 10?
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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

I don't see why not. Before they do anything, though, make sure to retrieve
your Windows 10 product key. Otherwise, you may not be able to activate
Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:40 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

My computer needs repair. Can tech take all software off hard disc, put
win10 and Office 2010 then download J16 without doing a repair on J16?

Could be a silly question but I would like to know for sure.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Because the upgrade will change technical components and the way jaws
interact with windows so you must repair jaws.
So josef, just too things. If I use the media creation tool, can I build an
iso wich include a product key and where will I find the key if it being the
case? And also, will I stil need sighted help or a talking desktop bootable
when using that tool for install? If not, does that mean you build the
complete install, or just the windows iso you need like it comes on the dvd?

On 08/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and
Jenna via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are
upgraded you need to run a repair on jaws.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Portillo via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want
to make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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balarc advisor:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi what version of balarc advisor is compatible with windows 10?
Kenny Peyatt


Re: Installation of Windows 10

Daniel McBride
 

Hello List:

If I am not mistaken, the upgrade to Windows 10 is free. Then I was reminded
that, for Bambi, the feed in the deer feeder is also free. So is the bullet
Bambi gets when she shows up for dinner.

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Nermin
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu. It
will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
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Re: Installation of Windows 10

 

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder if
FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Nermin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu. It
will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Nermin
 

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu. It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS, but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


Re: Installation of Windows 10

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Only if you are upgrading from Windows 7; if upgrading from Windows 8.1, a
JAWS repair is not necessary.

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via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are upgraded
you need to run a repair on jaws.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make
sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to
change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V,
c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the
"view" menu, nothing happens. It just says "blank". I also tried arrowing
and tabbing and still says "blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@...>
 

Hi,

If you are upgrading from 7 you need to run a repair on jaws sense 7 uses
the mirror display driver and 8 and 10 do not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are upgraded
you need to run a repair on jaws.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to make
sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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Re: Something to keep in mind when installing

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You know that the first setting I made after speed, punctuation and that
sort of stuff was making it say dollar after the number. That would seem
like a simple fix in the original program, but just glad there is a remedy.
Thanks.

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 12:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Something to keep in mind when installing

I learned something when installing Windows 10. First of all, I'm now using
it on my tablet; although, I have some learning to do. I will need help!

When running the utility that Freedom Scientific has for removing older
versions of JAWS and preparing the computer for Windows 10, make sure and
check that your JAWS settings are how you want them. What I found out was
that my setting to start JAWS at the log-in screen had been unchecked, so
when the computer was restarting and such, JAWS was not coming on at all.
I still don't know why Narrator wasn't coming on though, and I did have to
get someone sighted to read the screen to me. Everything installed well
though, I think.

So, check your JAWS settings once you've used that utility.

Jim


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 9:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
You'll first want to upgrade to Windows 10, as then you'll be able to clean
install. Various sources tell me that a new activation mechanisms are used -
your computer hardware information will be used to generate a secure hash
which will then be sent to Microsoft and will be kept for you, and once
cleanly installed, Windows 10 will be activated without having to enter a
product key.
Cheers,
Joseph

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via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 8:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have a question about Win10 install. I have Win7 and can free upgrade.
Did someone say a Win10 could be installed without using Win7 or 8? I would
like to completely wipe out my hard drive then run a destroyer program to
assure the only thing on the disc is binary zeros. Then a clean Win7 can be
installed and a downloaded J16, new Outlook ect. Too many files on my hard
drive are corrupt. Outlook will run but freezes and crashes and is
sometimes extremely slow. Just want the best out of my machine.

Clarity would be greatly appreciated.

Andre

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 10:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I wanted to point out something regarding Narrator. I have tried using the
Windows key plus Enter command to launch it on both my Windows 7 and 8.1
computers. It does not launch it on my Windows 7 machine, but it does on my
Windows 8.1 machine. I'm bringing this up for the benefit of those who are
upgrading from Windows 8.1 to version 10. Windows key plus enter may be an
option for you. I don't mean to confuse the issue at all, but did want to
share my experience here.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:46 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
There is no command to restart Narrator.
Speaking of installing Windows, I'll go through some FAQ's I got from this
list in this email:
* Compatible JFW release: Please use JAWS 16.0.4350 or later, or if you'd
like to wait, please hold off until JAWS 17 comes out (public beta or
official build will do).
* Clean install versus in-place upgrade: You can perform an in-place upgrade
all by yourself with a screen reader running. Your computer will restart
several times, and after some restarts, you'll hear silence from your
computer. Once this happens, press Windows+ENTER to launch Narrator, and if
your sound card is detected, Microsoft David will come up talking.
* Multiple clean install options: There are two ways of performing clean
install: bootable media or from Media Creation Tool. If using Media Creation
tool option, the steps are same as above, except none of your programs and
settings will be kept. If doing bootable media installation, then you'll
indeed need some sighted assistance for the first few prompts to choose your
language, entering your product key (don't have to enter it), choosing a
partition and others. Once your computer restarts several times, follow the
steps above to finish installing using Narrator (Windows 10 will come in
either a DVD or on a flash drive).
* Some finds with JAWS 16.0.4350: My brief testing shows the following (at
least on my computer):
1. In Start search box, JAWS does not announce search results automatically.
2. JAWS does not announce Action Center notifications, aa variation of
Windows 8.x's toast notifications. They are toasts in disguise because you
can press Windows+V to move to and interact with them, and press Windows+A
to open Action Center. These are basic issues that should have been fixed in
the first place, thus (in my opinion) disqualifying JAWS from being
compatible with Windows 10 for now (I'm sure FS is working on it).
3. You can use TAB and Shift+TAB to move among links in Microsoft Edge (no
virtual cursor, no forms mode, no support for MathML yet). There were tweets
floating around which criticized FS for not supporting Edge yet, but that's
expected (the biggest nightmare for screen reader vendors is whenever
Microsoft comes out with a new version of Windows; Windows 8.x users tasted
this, and it'll happen more frequently now that Microsoft will be updating
Windows constantly to add new features which may break accessibility).
For resident geeks here:
* In order to let your app support Windows 10, you need to modify app
manifest in your application, which is what JAWS 16.0.4350 could have done.
* UIA (User Interface Automation) is more prominent now, with universal apps
using UIA.
* Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA objects, thus you need to know how UIA
works (at least a high-level overview) when scripting for Windows 10 apps
and for supporting Edge.
If you'd like to hear Windows 10 in action, there are podcasts devoted to
this (including mine). I talked about Windows 10 (although from another
screen reader's perspective) on Tek Talk for August 3rd, which can be found
at www.accessibleworld.org.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. I believe we have some Windows Insiders who uses JAWS, so you can ask
them also.







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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Rob <mr.robertcole@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Can you restart Narrator with windows+Enter?


On 8/6/2015 9:04 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
I just tried it a while ago. Of course, something went wrong when
trying
to activate narrator. Looks like it installed, but it is either stuck or
something. Now of course I have no idea what's going on on the screen.

Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Joseph and Rob,

Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process. I
just completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Rob <mr.robertcole@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I just want to remind you that Narrator on Windows 10 is started and
stopped by pressing windows key and enter.
after starting the upgrade, I believe the PC restarted twice, after
that I waited about 20 minutes and pressed windows+Enter and Narrator
helped me finish the setup.
At one point, Narrator would not read the screen, so I quit and
restarted it with windows+Enter.
dont forget to make a backup before upgrading.


On 8/6/2015 4:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to
this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to
make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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Re: outlook 2013 email reading curiosity

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I was having a similar problem in Outlook Express for the last year or so.
Now that I am temporarily parked here in Outlook, I'm not having it, but
can't figure how to navigate in the thing. It's not all bad though, by a
long shot. That double reading is irritating, and I'd hit Control, then Say
All again; sometimes that helped.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: outlook 2013 email reading curiosity

Hello Kimsan,
I have Windows 7, 64 bit, the latest Jaws, and Office 365, and have not
experienced that in Outlook 2013, but am experiencing it in Word
occasionally, which makes proof reading problematic.
Cheers Kevin.

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Sent: August-07-15 1:27 AM
To: jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Subject: outlook 2013 email reading curiosity

Does anyone have outlook 2013, if so, when you open up an email and read it
or if it reads automatically for you, do you find that jaws reads it twice
as to say, pay attention! I'm only going to read it one more time to you!

It didn't do that in 2010, only here in 2013. Honestly, when it does that,
my brain gets confused lol.

FYI, using windows 10 pro and jaws 4350

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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You know, we had to download the thing twice, because there was some kind of
glitch in the first download.

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Good to know it comes in something besides a raw download; a flash drive
sounds like just the thing for a program that size. If I decide to get it,
it would be the first time I've ever had a Windows disc, as previous
versions have always been OEM.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 10:46 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
There is no command to restart Narrator.
Speaking of installing Windows, I'll go through some FAQ's I got from this
list in this email:
* Compatible JFW release: Please use JAWS 16.0.4350 or later, or if you'd
like to wait, please hold off until JAWS 17 comes out (public beta or
official build will do).
* Clean install versus in-place upgrade: You can perform an in-place upgrade
all by yourself with a screen reader running. Your computer will restart
several times, and after some restarts, you'll hear silence from your
computer. Once this happens, press Windows+ENTER to launch Narrator, and if
your sound card is detected, Microsoft David will come up talking.
* Multiple clean install options: There are two ways of performing clean
install: bootable media or from Media Creation Tool. If using Media Creation
tool option, the steps are same as above, except none of your programs and
settings will be kept. If doing bootable media installation, then you'll
indeed need some sighted assistance for the first few prompts to choose your
language, entering your product key (don't have to enter it), choosing a
partition and others. Once your computer restarts several times, follow the
steps above to finish installing using Narrator (Windows 10 will come in
either a DVD or on a flash drive).
* Some finds with JAWS 16.0.4350: My brief testing shows the following (at
least on my computer):
1. In Start search box, JAWS does not announce search results automatically.
2. JAWS does not announce Action Center notifications, aa variation of
Windows 8.x's toast notifications. They are toasts in disguise because you
can press Windows+V to move to and interact with them, and press Windows+A
to open Action Center. These are basic issues that should have been fixed in
the first place, thus (in my opinion) disqualifying JAWS from being
compatible with Windows 10 for now (I'm sure FS is working on it).
3. You can use TAB and Shift+TAB to move among links in Microsoft Edge (no
virtual cursor, no forms mode, no support for MathML yet). There were tweets
floating around which criticized FS for not supporting Edge yet, but that's
expected (the biggest nightmare for screen reader vendors is whenever
Microsoft comes out with a new version of Windows; Windows 8.x users tasted
this, and it'll happen more frequently now that Microsoft will be updating
Windows constantly to add new features which may break accessibility).
For resident geeks here:
* In order to let your app support Windows 10, you need to modify app
manifest in your application, which is what JAWS 16.0.4350 could have done.
* UIA (User Interface Automation) is more prominent now, with universal apps
using UIA.
* Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA objects, thus you need to know how UIA
works (at least a high-level overview) when scripting for Windows 10 apps
and for supporting Edge.
If you'd like to hear Windows 10 in action, there are podcasts devoted to
this (including mine). I talked about Windows 10 (although from another
screen reader's perspective) on Tek Talk for August 3rd, which can be found
at www.accessibleworld.org.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. I believe we have some Windows Insiders who uses JAWS, so you can ask
them also.







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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 7:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Rob <mr.robertcole@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Can you restart Narrator with windows+Enter?


On 8/6/2015 9:04 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
I just tried it a while ago. Of course, something went wrong when
trying
to activate narrator. Looks like it installed, but it is either stuck or
something. Now of course I have no idea what's going on on the screen.

Sent from my iPhone 6!

On Aug 6, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Joseph and Rob,

Thank you for describing the accessibility of the upgrade process. I
just completed it, and both JAWS and Windows 10 are working well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rob via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Rob <mr.robertcole@icloud.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I just want to remind you that Narrator on Windows 10 is started and
stopped by pressing windows key and enter.
after starting the upgrade, I believe the PC restarted twice, after
that I waited about 20 minutes and pressed windows+Enter and Narrator
helped me finish the setup.
At one point, Narrator would not read the screen, so I quit and
restarted it with windows+Enter.
dont forget to make a backup before upgrading.


On 8/6/2015 4:56 PM, Jim Portillo via Jfw wrote:
Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to
this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but
don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want to
make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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