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Re: getting Skype off of task bar

Daniel McBride
 

Adrian:

Thanks for the help on accessing all icons in the system tray. Mitchell,
thanks for the help on how to completely close Skype. I have successfully
completed the tasks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: getting Skype off of task bar

Daniel,

It sounds as though your system tray is set to hide some icons. Below are
instructions for how to reveal them in Windows 7. I believe they originated
with David Bailes, and I added notes from my own experience when I went
through the process some years ago.

Open start menu properties with Win key, escape, alt-enter.

In the first dialog, tab to and press the Notification Area Customize
button. I found that the list of options appears when I shit-tabbed once.

The first item there is always turn on all icons. I pressed the spacebar on
it, then tabbed to Okay.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:10 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: getting Skype off of task bar

Earlier today someone posted instructions for getting Skype off of your task
bar completely.

The first instruction was to access Select A System Tray Icon and arrow down
to Skype.

I tried this. After entering Insert F11, I have only 4 choices to arrow to.
They are Get Windows 10, Solve PC Issues, Network 5 Internet Access and
Speakers.

So, will the instructions not work for JAWS 14?


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Re: Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Tom Behler
 

Andre:

During one of our sessions, the tech support representative returned IE 11
back to the default settings, but that didn't seem to help.

Of course, that might not help if my IE instalation is corrupt anyway.

Will keep this suggestion in mind.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 4:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when
in forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Tom,

You might want to try installing IE10 to see if the edit fields open
properly. If they do then it is likely IE11 on your machine is corrupt. It
kind of sounds that way.

If edit fields do not open properly then you have a good reference to work
with Freedom Scientific. Worst case Windows 7 and/or Microsoft Office might
have to be reinstalled or rebuilt in some way. Hopefully this is not the
case. Just a thought.

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:55 PM
To: Jaws users list; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when in
forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Hello, again, everyone.,



Well, it has been a frustrating few hours here.



I have had three phone sessions with Freedom Scientific Tech Support today,
and my problem with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode on the
internet has still not been solved.



I won't name names here, but will summarize the results of each session.



Session 1: It was suggested that, since I have Jaws 14 on the home Windows
7 PC, that I upgrade to Jaws 16. The rationale for this was that I am using
Internet Explorer 11, which was not supported until Jaws 15. The thinking
was that Jaws 16 would solve the issue. I upgraded to Jaws 16.0.3048, but
the problem still persisted, both with Internet Explorer and Firefox.



Session 2: It was suggested that the Avast antivirus software was the
problem, and was likely confflicting with Jaws. So, I un-installed avast,
using the Avast removal tool from the avast.com web site while in safe mode.
Still no change.



Session 3: After trying a number of basic settings, which all proved to
be ok, a major Jaws repair was invoked. The Jaws repair did not change the
situation. In fact, I now think Internet Explorer and Firefox actually
work a bit worse than they did before.



As a result of this last session, my case has been "escalated" to the next
level of assistance. I have been given a ticket number, and hope to hear
from FS tech support within the next day or two.



I'm sure glad I have my work laptop to use as a backup!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Tom,

You might want to try installing IE10 to see if the edit fields open
properly. If they do then it is likely IE11 on your machine is corrupt. It
kind of sounds that way.

If edit fields do not open properly then you have a good reference to work
with Freedom Scientific. Worst case Windows 7 and/or Microsoft Office might
have to be reinstalled or rebuilt in some way. Hopefully this is not the
case. Just a thought.

Andre

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Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 2:55 PM
To: Jaws users list; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when in
forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Hello, again, everyone.,



Well, it has been a frustrating few hours here.



I have had three phone sessions with Freedom Scientific Tech Support today,
and my problem with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode on the
internet has still not been solved.



I won't name names here, but will summarize the results of each session.



Session 1: It was suggested that, since I have Jaws 14 on the home Windows
7 PC, that I upgrade to Jaws 16. The rationale for this was that I am using
Internet Explorer 11, which was not supported until Jaws 15. The thinking
was that Jaws 16 would solve the issue. I upgraded to Jaws 16.0.3048, but
the problem still persisted, both with Internet Explorer and Firefox.



Session 2: It was suggested that the Avast antivirus software was the
problem, and was likely confflicting with Jaws. So, I un-installed avast,
using the Avast removal tool from the avast.com web site while in safe mode.
Still no change.



Session 3: After trying a number of basic settings, which all proved to
be ok, a major Jaws repair was invoked. The Jaws repair did not change the
situation. In fact, I now think Internet Explorer and Firefox actually
work a bit worse than they did before.



As a result of this last session, my case has been "escalated" to the next
level of assistance. I have been given a ticket number, and hope to hear
from FS tech support within the next day or two.



I'm sure glad I have my work laptop to use as a backup!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Continuing Frustration with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode using IE and Firefox on home Windows 7 PC

Tom Behler
 

Hello, again, everyone.,



Well, it has been a frustrating few hours here.



I have had three phone sessions with Freedom Scientific Tech Support today,
and my problem with entering text into edit fields when in forms mode on the
internet has still not been solved.



I won't name names here, but will summarize the results of each session.



Session 1: It was suggested that, since I have Jaws 14 on the home Windows
7 PC, that I upgrade to Jaws 16. The rationale for this was that I am using
Internet Explorer 11, which was not supported until Jaws 15. The thinking
was that Jaws 16 would solve the issue. I upgraded to Jaws 16.0.3048, but
the problem still persisted, both with Internet Explorer and Firefox.



Session 2: It was suggested that the Avast antivirus software was the
problem, and was likely confflicting with Jaws. So, I un-installed avast,
using the Avast removal tool from the avast.com web site while in safe mode.
Still no change.



Session 3: After trying a number of basic settings, which all proved to
be ok, a major Jaws repair was invoked. The Jaws repair did not change the
situation. In fact, I now think Internet Explorer and Firefox actually
work a bit worse than they did before.



As a result of this last session, my case has been "escalated" to the next
level of assistance. I have been given a ticket number, and hope to hear
from FS tech support within the next day or two.



I'm sure glad I have my work laptop to use as a backup!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Windows 7 book

Gennie Eachus <eachusgm@...>
 

Sorry, Someone beat you to it.

Gennie

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tom Lange
Subject: Re: Windows 7 book

Hi Gennie,
It's a great book. If you haven't already sent that book to someone, I'm
sure my students would love it. We're using the audio version of the book as
part of our computer training curriculum, and having a Braille copy on hand
would be fabulous. If you like, you can send it to

Tom Lange
Junior Blind of America
5300 Angeles Vista Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90043


Thank you so much for your kind offer.

Sincerely,
Tom Lange


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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gennie Eachus" <eachusgm@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:50 PM
Subject: Windows 7 book


Would anyone like a braille copy of "Windows 7 and Vista Explained" by Dr.
Sarah Morley?

It is in five volumes. If interested, please email me off list.



Gennie



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Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Merv Keck <blind5sparrow@...>
 

Hi,
I just read this morning that beginning later this year new computers will
begin vastly improving the speed of computers by changing the way graphics
chips work inside the machines. They said this will be a major step forward
for hardware but a major headache for software. This was on a CNET article.
Right away I thought of how my improved GPU on my new machine made using
Magic and Jaws at the same time so much easier. My machine doesn't even get
warm after being on for hours. But I already know that if this new way of
programming software is going to be a major headache for mainstream software
that it will be a migraine for the rest of us. And I also know that there
will be expectations that assistive companies like Freedom and AI Squared
will already have those products available yesterday.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 11:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Absolutely, Brad, I think the exact same thing.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology


I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do crazier and
crazier things with software and websites every day, and the people at FS
aren't psychic. It's been this way since before I got into computers I'm
sure, and that was 1992. You can't redesign software to fix a problem until
the problem exists. So what happens. A new version of Windows comes out,
and then JAWS has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of
Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the software has
to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix changes their website,
and again something has to be tweaked to handle the new wrinkle. If the
site designer would use Alt tags on their graphics, graphical links
wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and that
means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the latest fixes
to the latest problems. I don't generally update to every new release,
because for what I do, I can usually skip five or so versions. It's
cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If you're more on
the cutting edge of technology, you may have to update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about the
cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change, programmers
are always having to work writing code to accommodate those new features
and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft Office, which people use by the
millions and millions of copies, assistive technology has an extremely
small market share. People want the very latest and greatest, and they
want the software authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in the days
of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way to read a news
article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no virtual cursor), and you
had to read three or four columns of articles at one time with all the
stories mixed together. We've come soooooo far since 1997 when I started
teaching people how to use the Internet. When you step back eighteen
years, it's really quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up
with the rest of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList,
especially
regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm having my share of woes
regarding these-I think the fault lay not only with sites like Netflix
that
change configurations as often as they change their underwear, but also
with
Freedom Scientific for not keeping the programs compatible and current
with
a lot of new programs and changing graphics. If screenreaders were able
to
recognize changing graphics, I think things would be a lot more
accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD queue; if they
were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have been announced
to
subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a configuration issue where
more
is made of graphics, well, then I guess that, right now, they'll lose a
lot
of subscribers who can't figure out the situation, but my hope is that
screenreading software is keeping up with the times, because they're
certainly *NOT* slowing down for us.


Kevin

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Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Daniel McBride
 

I believe all of you completely missed my earlier point.

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:21 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Drew Hunthausen
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology

If Jaws was free I too would love it from a financial standpoint, but it
probably would only be updated about every 10 years when some techy had a
few extra minutes to play around with it. Freedom scientific is a company
and everyone needs to make a living. I also wish I didn't have to pay for my
internet or cable!!!!!

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I thought that too about 13, dummed it down back to 12.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ed Marquette" <marquette.ed@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology


Mitchell is right.
I too always upgrade. Sometimes, as in JAWS 13, I upgrade but
never use it. For instance, with JAWS 13, I used version 12 until
version 14 came out. For my dime, I thought JAWS 13 broke more
than it fixed, and sometimes versions of software will do that.
Still, it is such a hassle skipping versions that it makes sense,
at least for me, always to keep up to date.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology

"Skipping five or so versions" is not cheaper if, all of a sudden,
a new version comes out containing something you really want or
need. It would be cheaper if FS charged a flat upgrade fee, but
that's not the case; the older the version, the greater the cost
of upgrading to the newest release. That is why I always keep my
license up-to-date, even if a particular release does not contain
any new features I feel I'll need.

-----Original Message-----
From: JFW [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Martin via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do
crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day,
and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since
before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't
redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So
what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS
has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of
Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the
software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix
changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to
handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on
their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and
that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the
latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to
every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five
or so versions.
It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If
you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to
update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about
the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change,
programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate
those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft
Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies,
assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People
want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software
authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in
the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way
to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no
virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of
articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've
come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to
use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really
quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest
of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList,
especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm
having my
share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only
with
sites like Netflix that change configurations as often as they
change
their underwear, but also with Freedom Scientific for not
keeping the
programs compatible and current with a lot of new programs and
changing graphics. If screenreaders were able to recognize
changing
graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is
definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD
queue; if
they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have
been
announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a
configuration issue where more is made of graphics, well, then I
guess
that, right now, they'll lose a lot of subscribers who can't
figure
out the situation, but my hope is that screenreading software is
keeping up with the times, because they're certainly *NOT*
slowing
down
for us.



Kevin

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Re: Blogging and reformatting

Adrian Spratt
 

This works fine. Another method is to add the alt key to the control-v paste command, which gives you options.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Blogging and reformatting

On the blogging and reformatting, if you copy the material to Note Pad, that
should clean it up. Then you can repaste it back over into a word document
and run Spell Check, proof read, etc.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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From: "Hassan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: <dreamy.eyes.ten@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Blogging and reformatting


Hi all

I know Kevin, I think it was who told me how to format in word. But is
there a way of reformatting a document, where all the headingfields etc is
taken out of the document? For example if I copy text from a website and
paste it into word, jaws reads it funny and it looks odd too, so is there
a way of just making the document into a clean cut word document?

I hope it makes sense.

Cheers



Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Jun 2015, at 6:10 pm, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Hassan,
I am interested in learning about blogs as well, but have little personal
experience. Word press appears to be most popular among Jaws users Here
is some information about Word Press I copied from a letter to The Jaws
List a while ago. .
Where is my WordPress page? What’s the address?
Unless you’ve customized it, your WordPress page address is your
username, plus “.wordpress.com”. For example, If your username is
“tomsmith”, then your address is tomsmith.wordpress.com.
If you’d like to view your WordPress page while you’re logged in to
WordPress, try the following:
1. Follow the “My Site” link. It’s the first link on most WordPress
pages.
2. This takes you to a page containing statistics for your page.
However, on this page, you’ll find another link, labeled “View Site”.
Follow that link.
3. Your WordPress page will open as a new tab. Each blog is a heading,
so use H or SHIFT+H to move between blog articles.
Because it’s in a new tab, you can switch back to the previous page with
CONTROL+!, then to your WordPress page with CONTROL+2. While viewing your
WordPress page, you can close it with CONTROL+F4.
How to create a new blog.
1. From the main wordpress page, arrow down to the link “New Post”.
Follow that link
2. Find the “Title” form field and press ENTER to start editing. Type
in the title of your blog post.
3. Arrow down about 20 times until you hear “Edit”. Press SPACEBAR to
activate this control. You are now editing the body of your post. Type in
your post, or paste it, as needed.
4. When you’re done, hit tab to leave the edit area. This takes you to
the “Publish” button. Activate this button with SPACEBAR.
5. Your blog is now published, but WordPress leaves you in edit mode
on your blog, so you can make additional changes if needed.
6. If you want to save an intermediate draft and come back to publish
later, there is a “Save Draft” button near the “Publish” button.
How to get the web address of a specific blog
Go to your WordPress page, and find the blog you’re interested in. Each
blog is a heading, but is also a link, so you can find it easily with
INSERT+F7. Follow the link to your blog post. Then use ALT+D to go to the
address bar and copy the address.
How do I get a simple list of my blogs?
1. Follow the “My site” link (usually one of the first links on any
WordPress page).
2. Bring up the list of links, then find and follow the link labeled
“Blog posts”.
3. Each blog article is a header. Use INSERT+F6, or H and SHIFT+H, to
find your blog article.
After you find your blog article, arrow down or TAB down to find related
information and links pertaining to that article, including an “Edit”
link that lets you make changes.
How do I edit a post after I’ve published it?
Go to your WordPress page (or bring up the list of blog posts), and find
the header for the blog you want to edit.
Press TAB 2 or 3 times until you find the “Edit” link, then press
SPACEBAR to follow it. Note that there are multiple links labeled “Edit”,
one for each blog article. So be sure to follow the first “Edit” link
after the header for your blog. This should only be about 2 or 3 TAB
presses away. If you hear the title for another blog, you’ve probably
tabbed too far. SHIFT+H back to the blog article header and try it again.
How do I find a saved draft?
Go to your list of blog posts (that is, follow the “My Site” link, then
follow the “Blog posts” link). On the page containing the list of your
blog articles, find and follow the “Drafts” link.
Can I customize my page?
From the “My Site” page, find and follow the link called “Themes”. This
lets you pick a look and feel for your WordPress page. It might be
helpful to have assistance from a sighted person for this task.

For formatting in Word try control, shift S, or Alt H, L, A, to get to
styles, and tab to modify button, press space bar, and then tab to select
font size, colour, indentation spacing etc.

The following are the only directions for Wi-Fi I have;
Wi Fi
1. Type control panel in search menu, and press enter.
2. Type network in search menu
3. down arrow to connect to a network
4. press enter.
5. you are on the menu of available wireless network connections
a. Current connection is at the top.
b. down arrow to desired connection
c. press enter.
6. To exit the wireless connection network menu ; press escape.

-----Original Message----- From: Hassan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: dreamy.eyes.ten@googlemail.com
Subject: Blogging and reformatting

Hi guys

I was just wondering what is the most accessible blogging website with
jaws? Also How do I reformat in word, I ask because I've been posting
blogs and the text and the format in general has been all over the place,
and finally are there short cuts to finding new wireless connections
quickly?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
HK

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Re: Blogging and reformatting

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

On the blogging and reformatting, if you copy the material to Note Pad, that should clean it up. Then you can repaste it back over into a word document and run Spell Check, proof read, etc.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: <dreamy.eyes.ten@googlemail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Blogging and reformatting


Hi all

I know Kevin, I think it was who told me how to format in word. But is there a way of reformatting a document, where all the headingfields etc is taken out of the document? For example if I copy text from a website and paste it into word, jaws reads it funny and it looks odd too, so is there a way of just making the document into a clean cut word document?

I hope it makes sense.

Cheers



Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Jun 2015, at 6:10 pm, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Hassan,
I am interested in learning about blogs as well, but have little personal experience. Word press appears to be most popular among Jaws users Here is some information about Word Press I copied from a letter to The Jaws List a while ago. .
Where is my WordPress page? What’s the address?
Unless you’ve customized it, your WordPress page address is your username, plus “.wordpress.com”. For example, If your username is “tomsmith”, then your address is tomsmith.wordpress.com.
If you’d like to view your WordPress page while you’re logged in to WordPress, try the following:
1. Follow the “My Site” link. It’s the first link on most WordPress pages.
2. This takes you to a page containing statistics for your page. However, on this page, you’ll find another link, labeled “View Site”. Follow that link.
3. Your WordPress page will open as a new tab. Each blog is a heading, so use H or SHIFT+H to move between blog articles.
Because it’s in a new tab, you can switch back to the previous page with CONTROL+!, then to your WordPress page with CONTROL+2. While viewing your WordPress page, you can close it with CONTROL+F4.
How to create a new blog.
1. From the main wordpress page, arrow down to the link “New Post”. Follow that link
2. Find the “Title” form field and press ENTER to start editing. Type in the title of your blog post.
3. Arrow down about 20 times until you hear “Edit”. Press SPACEBAR to activate this control. You are now editing the body of your post. Type in your post, or paste it, as needed.
4. When you’re done, hit tab to leave the edit area. This takes you to the “Publish” button. Activate this button with SPACEBAR.
5. Your blog is now published, but WordPress leaves you in edit mode on your blog, so you can make additional changes if needed.
6. If you want to save an intermediate draft and come back to publish later, there is a “Save Draft” button near the “Publish” button.
How to get the web address of a specific blog
Go to your WordPress page, and find the blog you’re interested in. Each blog is a heading, but is also a link, so you can find it easily with INSERT+F7. Follow the link to your blog post. Then use ALT+D to go to the address bar and copy the address.
How do I get a simple list of my blogs?
1. Follow the “My site” link (usually one of the first links on any WordPress page).
2. Bring up the list of links, then find and follow the link labeled “Blog posts”.
3. Each blog article is a header. Use INSERT+F6, or H and SHIFT+H, to find your blog article.
After you find your blog article, arrow down or TAB down to find related information and links pertaining to that article, including an “Edit” link that lets you make changes.
How do I edit a post after I’ve published it?
Go to your WordPress page (or bring up the list of blog posts), and find the header for the blog you want to edit.
Press TAB 2 or 3 times until you find the “Edit” link, then press SPACEBAR to follow it. Note that there are multiple links labeled “Edit”, one for each blog article. So be sure to follow the first “Edit” link after the header for your blog. This should only be about 2 or 3 TAB presses away. If you hear the title for another blog, you’ve probably tabbed too far. SHIFT+H back to the blog article header and try it again.
How do I find a saved draft?
Go to your list of blog posts (that is, follow the “My Site” link, then follow the “Blog posts” link). On the page containing the list of your blog articles, find and follow the “Drafts” link.
Can I customize my page?
From the “My Site” page, find and follow the link called “Themes”. This lets you pick a look and feel for your WordPress page. It might be helpful to have assistance from a sighted person for this task.

For formatting in Word try control, shift S, or Alt H, L, A, to get to styles, and tab to modify button, press space bar, and then tab to select font size, colour, indentation spacing etc.

The following are the only directions for Wi-Fi I have;
Wi Fi
1. Type control panel in search menu, and press enter.
2. Type network in search menu
3. down arrow to connect to a network
4. press enter.
5. you are on the menu of available wireless network connections
a. Current connection is at the top.
b. down arrow to desired connection
c. press enter.
6. To exit the wireless connection network menu ; press escape.

-----Original Message----- From: Hassan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: dreamy.eyes.ten@googlemail.com
Subject: Blogging and reformatting

Hi guys

I was just wondering what is the most accessible blogging website with jaws? Also How do I reformat in word, I ask because I've been posting blogs and the text and the format in general has been all over the place, and finally are there short cuts to finding new wireless connections quickly?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
HK

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Re: Blogging and reformatting

dreamy.eyes.ten@...
 

Hi all

I know Kevin, I think it was who told me how to format in word. But is there a way of reformatting a document, where all the headingfields etc is taken out of the document? For example if I copy text from a website and paste it into word, jaws reads it funny and it looks odd too, so is there a way of just making the document into a clean cut word document?

I hope it makes sense.

Cheers



Sent from my iPhone

On 19 Jun 2015, at 6:10 pm, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Hassan,
I am interested in learning about blogs as well, but have little personal experience. Word press appears to be most popular among Jaws users Here is some information about Word Press I copied from a letter to The Jaws List a while ago. .
Where is my WordPress page? What’s the address?
Unless you’ve customized it, your WordPress page address is your username, plus “.wordpress.com”. For example, If your username is “tomsmith”, then your address is tomsmith.wordpress.com.
If you’d like to view your WordPress page while you’re logged in to WordPress, try the following:
1. Follow the “My Site” link. It’s the first link on most WordPress pages.
2. This takes you to a page containing statistics for your page. However, on this page, you’ll find another link, labeled “View Site”. Follow that link.
3. Your WordPress page will open as a new tab. Each blog is a heading, so use H or SHIFT+H to move between blog articles.
Because it’s in a new tab, you can switch back to the previous page with CONTROL+!, then to your WordPress page with CONTROL+2. While viewing your WordPress page, you can close it with CONTROL+F4.
How to create a new blog.
1. From the main wordpress page, arrow down to the link “New Post”. Follow that link
2. Find the “Title” form field and press ENTER to start editing. Type in the title of your blog post.
3. Arrow down about 20 times until you hear “Edit”. Press SPACEBAR to activate this control. You are now editing the body of your post. Type in your post, or paste it, as needed.
4. When you’re done, hit tab to leave the edit area. This takes you to the “Publish” button. Activate this button with SPACEBAR.
5. Your blog is now published, but WordPress leaves you in edit mode on your blog, so you can make additional changes if needed.
6. If you want to save an intermediate draft and come back to publish later, there is a “Save Draft” button near the “Publish” button.
How to get the web address of a specific blog
Go to your WordPress page, and find the blog you’re interested in. Each blog is a heading, but is also a link, so you can find it easily with INSERT+F7. Follow the link to your blog post. Then use ALT+D to go to the address bar and copy the address.
How do I get a simple list of my blogs?
1. Follow the “My site” link (usually one of the first links on any WordPress page).
2. Bring up the list of links, then find and follow the link labeled “Blog posts”.
3. Each blog article is a header. Use INSERT+F6, or H and SHIFT+H, to find your blog article.
After you find your blog article, arrow down or TAB down to find related information and links pertaining to that article, including an “Edit” link that lets you make changes.
How do I edit a post after I’ve published it?
Go to your WordPress page (or bring up the list of blog posts), and find the header for the blog you want to edit.
Press TAB 2 or 3 times until you find the “Edit” link, then press SPACEBAR to follow it. Note that there are multiple links labeled “Edit”, one for each blog article. So be sure to follow the first “Edit” link after the header for your blog. This should only be about 2 or 3 TAB presses away. If you hear the title for another blog, you’ve probably tabbed too far. SHIFT+H back to the blog article header and try it again.
How do I find a saved draft?
Go to your list of blog posts (that is, follow the “My Site” link, then follow the “Blog posts” link). On the page containing the list of your blog articles, find and follow the “Drafts” link.
Can I customize my page?
From the “My Site” page, find and follow the link called “Themes”. This lets you pick a look and feel for your WordPress page. It might be helpful to have assistance from a sighted person for this task.

For formatting in Word try control, shift S, or Alt H, L, A, to get to styles, and tab to modify button, press space bar, and then tab to select font size, colour, indentation spacing etc.

The following are the only directions for Wi-Fi I have;
Wi Fi
1. Type control panel in search menu, and press enter.
2. Type network in search menu
3. down arrow to connect to a network
4. press enter.
5. you are on the menu of available wireless network connections
a. Current connection is at the top.
b. down arrow to desired connection
c. press enter.
6. To exit the wireless connection network menu ; press escape.

-----Original Message----- From: Hassan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:34 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: dreamy.eyes.ten@googlemail.com
Subject: Blogging and reformatting

Hi guys

I was just wondering what is the most accessible blogging website with jaws? Also How do I reformat in word, I ask because I've been posting blogs and the text and the format in general has been all over the place, and finally are there short cuts to finding new wireless connections quickly?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
HK

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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Monkey
 

That's odd...I'm using JAWS version 13 and I've got IE 11, and it
works fine for me.

On 6/23/15, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Bill and all:

Stand by for more details on this.

I just called FS, and since I'm authorized for Jaws 16, I'm going to install
it on this computer now.

Keith from FS says that my problem is that I'm running Internet Explorer 11,
and IE 11 does not work well with Jaws 14--only 15 and 16.

I'll keep everyone posted, and please know that I appreciate all of your
support.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. There probably is some remnant of Bing in your User folder either
in AppData, or in Roming.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Bill:

Yes, we have checked in add/remove programs, and bing is not listed there.

So, perhaps Bing is not the issue, unless there is some remnant of it
in my computer somewhere.

I'm really stumped on this one.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. Have you checked in your Control Panel where you remove
programs to see if the Bing Toolbar is listed in your installed programs?

If it is, I would remove it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


No luck there either.

I'm wondering if my problem still relates to the Bing tool bar.

I thought I had it disabled, according to some instructions I had
received, but I think I was wrong because Bing is still mentioned
when I access the internet via Internet Explorer and Firefox.

I may try switching to another home page, just to see if that makes a
difference.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi,

Once you’re in forms mode try tab away from and then back to the edit
field… sometimes this will work.

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Bill:

I tried this, but no joy.

I still get the higher click, which indicates to me that I'm in
forms mode, but I still can't enter text into a search or edit box.

Have tried this on google, and on several other search sites.

This is the case whether I tab or arrow down to the forms field.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. I don't know that this would solve your particular issue,
but, sometimes, refreshing the page with the function key 5, F5,
will bring up a search box where you can enter data.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on
the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when
I type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the
screen when
I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in
forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I
have tried performing searches on several different web sites where
info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the
issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan











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Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Drew Hunthausen
 

If Jaws was free I too would love it from a financial standpoint, but it
probably would only be updated about every 10 years when some techy had a
few extra minutes to play around with it. Freedom scientific is a company
and everyone needs to make a living. I also wish I didn't have to pay for my
internet or cable!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I thought that too about 13, dummed it down back to 12.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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Cc: "Ed Marquette" <marquette.ed@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology


Mitchell is right.
I too always upgrade. Sometimes, as in JAWS 13, I upgrade but
never use it. For instance, with JAWS 13, I used version 12 until
version 14 came out. For my dime, I thought JAWS 13 broke more
than it fixed, and sometimes versions of software will do that.
Still, it is such a hassle skipping versions that it makes sense,
at least for me, always to keep up to date.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology

"Skipping five or so versions" is not cheaper if, all of a sudden,
a new version comes out containing something you really want or
need. It would be cheaper if FS charged a flat upgrade fee, but
that's not the case; the older the version, the greater the cost
of upgrading to the newest release. That is why I always keep my
license up-to-date, even if a particular release does not contain
any new features I feel I'll need.

-----Original Message-----
From: JFW [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Martin via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do
crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day,
and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since
before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't
redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So
what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS
has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of
Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the
software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix
changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to
handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on
their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and
that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the
latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to
every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five
or so versions.
It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If
you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to
update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about
the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change,
programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate
those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft
Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies,
assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People
want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software
authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in
the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way
to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no
virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of
articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've
come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to
use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really
quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest
of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList,
especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm
having my
share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only
with
sites like Netflix that change configurations as often as they
change
their underwear, but also with Freedom Scientific for not
keeping the
programs compatible and current with a lot of new programs and
changing graphics. If screenreaders were able to recognize
changing
graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is
definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD
queue; if
they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have
been
announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a
configuration issue where more is made of graphics, well, then I
guess
that, right now, they'll lose a lot of subscribers who can't
figure
out the situation, but my hope is that screenreading software is
keeping up with the times, because they're certainly *NOT*
slowing
down
for us.



Kevin

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Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I thought that too about 13, dummed it down back to 12.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ed Marquette" <marquette.ed@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:49 PM
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology


Mitchell is right.
I too always upgrade. Sometimes, as in JAWS 13, I upgrade but
never use it. For instance, with JAWS 13, I used version 12 until
version 14 came out. For my dime, I thought JAWS 13 broke more
than it fixed, and sometimes versions of software will do that.
Still, it is such a hassle skipping versions that it makes sense,
at least for me, always to keep up to date.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Michal Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:39 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Keeping Up With Technology

"Skipping five or so versions" is not cheaper if, all of a sudden,
a new version comes out containing something you really want or
need. It would be cheaper if FS charged a flat upgrade fee, but
that's not the case; the older the version, the greater the cost
of upgrading to the newest release. That is why I always keep my
license up-to-date, even if a particular release does not contain
any new features I feel I'll need.

-----Original Message-----
From: JFW [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad
Martin via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology

I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do
crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day,
and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since
before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't
redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So
what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS
has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of
Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the
software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix
changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to
handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on
their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and
that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the
latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to
every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five
or so versions.
It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If
you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to
update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about
the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change,
programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate
those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft
Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies,
assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People
want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software
authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in
the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way
to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no
virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of
articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've
come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to
use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really
quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest
of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList,
especially regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm
having my
share of woes regarding these-I think the fault lay not only
with
sites like Netflix that change configurations as often as they
change
their underwear, but also with Freedom Scientific for not
keeping the
programs compatible and current with a lot of new programs and
changing graphics. If screenreaders were able to recognize
changing
graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is
definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD
queue; if
they were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have
been
announced to subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a
configuration issue where more is made of graphics, well, then I
guess
that, right now, they'll lose a lot of subscribers who can't
figure
out the situation, but my hope is that screenreading software is
keeping up with the times, because they're certainly *NOT*
slowing
down
for us.



Kevin

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Re: Keeping Up With Technology

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Absolutely, Brad, I think the exact same thing.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Keeping Up With Technology


I can't really fault Freedom Scientific for this. Designers do crazier and crazier things with software and websites every day, and the people at FS aren't psychic. It's been this way since before I got into computers I'm sure, and that was 1992. You can't redesign software to fix a problem until the problem exists. So what happens. A new version of Windows comes out, and then JAWS has to be rewritten to handle the new stuff. A new version of Office comes out replacing menus with ribbons, and again, the software has to be rewritten to deal with the new layout. Netflix changes their website, and again something has to be tweaked to handle the new wrinkle. If the site designer would use Alt tags on their graphics, graphical links wouldn't be an issue.

The other side of that coin is that you have to do your part, and that means updating to the latest version of JAWS if you want the latest fixes to the latest problems. I don't generally update to every new release, because for what I do, I can usually skip five or so versions. It's cheaper that way, and I don't feel like I'm missing out. If you're more on the cutting edge of technology, you may have to update more frequently.

Which brings me to my final point of the night. People gripe about the cost of assistive technology, but as rapidly as things change, programmers are always having to work writing code to accommodate those new features and problems. And unlike, say, Microsoft Office, which people use by the millions and millions of copies, assistive technology has an extremely small market share. People want the very latest and greatest, and they want the software authors to work for free.

Is what we have perfect? No. But if you were using JAWS back in the days of Internet Explorer 3.0, you remember when the only way to read a news article was with the JAWS cursor (there was no virtual cursor), and you had to read three or four columns of articles at one time with all the stories mixed together. We've come soooooo far since 1997 when I started teaching people how to use the Internet. When you step back eighteen years, it's really quite amazing how rapidly our technology catches up with the rest of the world compared to how long it used to take.

Brad

On 6/22/2015 6:25 PM, Kevin Wollenweber via Jfw wrote:
You know, with all the hardships that I read within this EList, especially
regarding Netflix and other such sites-I know I'm having my share of woes
regarding these-I think the fault lay not only with sites like Netflix that
change configurations as often as they change their underwear, but also with
Freedom Scientific for not keeping the programs compatible and current with
a lot of new programs and changing graphics. If screenreaders were able to
recognize changing graphics, I think things would be a lot more accessible.
No one saw this Netflix change coming; I mean, the site is definitely
changed completely to the point where I cannot find my DVD queue; if they
were phasing out the DVD queue, news of this should have been announced to
subscribers long ago, but if this is merely a configuration issue where more
is made of graphics, well, then I guess that, right now, they'll lose a lot
of subscribers who can't figure out the situation, but my hope is that
screenreading software is keeping up with the times, because they're
certainly *NOT* slowing down for us.


Kevin

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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Michael Mote
 

I hope that works for you. Keeping fingers crossed!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:37 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Bill and all:

Stand by for more details on this.

I just called FS, and since I'm authorized for Jaws 16, I'm going to install it on this computer now.

Keith from FS says that my problem is that I'm running Internet Explorer 11, and IE 11 does not work well with Jaws 14--only 15 and 16.

I'll keep everyone posted, and please know that I appreciate all of your support.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. There probably is some remnant of Bing in your User folder either in AppData, or in Roming.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Bill:

Yes, we have checked in add/remove programs, and bing is not listed there.

So, perhaps Bing is not the issue, unless there is some remnant of it
in my computer somewhere.

I'm really stumped on this one.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. Have you checked in your Control Panel where you remove
programs to see if the Bing Toolbar is listed in your installed programs?

If it is, I would remove it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


No luck there either.

I'm wondering if my problem still relates to the Bing tool bar.

I thought I had it disabled, according to some instructions I had
received, but I think I was wrong because Bing is still mentioned
when I access the internet via Internet Explorer and Firefox.

I may try switching to another home page, just to see if that makes a
difference.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi,

Once you’re in forms mode try tab away from and then back to the edit
field… sometimes this will work.

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Bill:

I tried this, but no joy.

I still get the higher click, which indicates to me that I'm in
forms mode, but I still can't enter text into a search or edit box.

Have tried this on google, and on several other search sites.

This is the case whether I tab or arrow down to the forms field.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. I don't know that this would solve your particular issue,
but, sometimes, refreshing the page with the function key 5, F5,
will bring up a search box where you can enter data.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on
the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when
I type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the
screen when
I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in
forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I
have tried performing searches on several different web sites where
info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the
issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Tom Behler
 

Bill and all:

Stand by for more details on this.

I just called FS, and since I'm authorized for Jaws 16, I'm going to install it on this computer now.

Keith from FS says that my problem is that I'm running Internet Explorer 11, and IE 11 does not work well with Jaws 14--only 15 and 16.

I'll keep everyone posted, and please know that I appreciate all of your support.

Sincerely,
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:24 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. There probably is some remnant of Bing in your User folder either in AppData, or in Roming.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Bill:

Yes, we have checked in add/remove programs, and bing is not listed there.

So, perhaps Bing is not the issue, unless there is some remnant of it
in my computer somewhere.

I'm really stumped on this one.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. Have you checked in your Control Panel where you remove
programs to see if the Bing Toolbar is listed in your installed programs?

If it is, I would remove it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


No luck there either.

I'm wondering if my problem still relates to the Bing tool bar.

I thought I had it disabled, according to some instructions I had
received, but I think I was wrong because Bing is still mentioned
when I access the internet via Internet Explorer and Firefox.

I may try switching to another home page, just to see if that makes a
difference.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi,

Once you’re in forms mode try tab away from and then back to the edit
field… sometimes this will work.

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Bill:

I tried this, but no joy.

I still get the higher click, which indicates to me that I'm in
forms mode, but I still can't enter text into a search or edit box.

Have tried this on google, and on several other search sites.

This is the case whether I tab or arrow down to the forms field.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. I don't know that this would solve your particular issue,
but, sometimes, refreshing the page with the function key 5, F5,
will bring up a search box where you can enter data.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on
the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when
I type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the
screen when
I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in
forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I
have tried performing searches on several different web sites where
info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the
issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. There probably is some remnant of Bing in your User folder either in AppData, or in Roming.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:14 AM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Bill:

Yes, we have checked in add/remove programs, and bing is not listed there.

So, perhaps Bing is not the issue, unless there is some remnant of it in my computer somewhere.

I'm really stumped on this one.

Dr. Tom Behler


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. Have you checked in your Control Panel where you remove programs to see if the Bing Toolbar is listed in your installed programs?

If it is, I would remove it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


No luck there either.

I'm wondering if my problem still relates to the Bing tool bar.

I thought I had it disabled, according to some instructions I had
received, but I think I was wrong because Bing is still mentioned when I
access the internet via Internet Explorer and Firefox.

I may try switching to another home page, just to see if that makes a
difference.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi,

Once you’re in forms mode try tab away from and then back to the edit
field… sometimes this will work.

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Bill:

I tried this, but no joy.

I still get the higher click, which indicates to me that I'm in forms
mode, but I still can't enter text into a search or edit box.

Have tried this on google, and on several other search sites.

This is the case whether I tab or arrow down to the forms field.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. I don't know that this would solve your particular issue,
but, sometimes, refreshing the page with the function key 5, F5, will
bring up a search box where you can enter data.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on
the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I
type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen
when
I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in
forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I
have tried performing searches on several different web sites where
info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the
issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



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Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Tom Behler
 

Me too, which is why I'm going to call FS shortly.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I'm wondering if a JAWS repair is in order in this case. Sounds like JAWS
is not treating the form field correctly. Clearly, it should work different
than what you are describing here.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I thought I had tried the space bar before, but just to be sure, I tried it
again. Still no luck.

Again, I get the higher click that indicates I'm in forms mode, but no text
gets entered when I type.

Hitting F5 to refresh the screen doesn't help either.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

This might sound stupid but for the past year I hit the space bar instead of
the enter key to get forms mode. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Michael Mote
 

I'm wondering if a JAWS repair is in order in this case. Sounds like JAWS
is not treating the form field correctly. Clearly, it should work different
than what you are describing here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

I thought I had tried the space bar before, but just to be sure, I tried it
again. Still no luck.

Again, I get the higher click that indicates I'm in forms mode, but no text
gets entered when I type.

Hitting F5 to refresh the screen doesn't help either.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

This might sound stupid but for the past year I hit the space bar instead of
the enter key to get forms mode. Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on the
internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I type,
nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen when I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in forms
mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I have
tried performing searches on several different web sites where info needs to
be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Tom Behler
 

Bill:

Yes, we have checked in add/remove programs, and bing is not listed there.

So, perhaps Bing is not the issue, unless there is some remnant of it in my computer somewhere.

I'm really stumped on this one.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. Have you checked in your Control Panel where you remove programs to see if the Bing Toolbar is listed in your installed programs?

If it is, I would remove it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


No luck there either.

I'm wondering if my problem still relates to the Bing tool bar.

I thought I had it disabled, according to some instructions I had
received, but I think I was wrong because Bing is still mentioned when I
access the internet via Internet Explorer and Firefox.

I may try switching to another home page, just to see if that makes a
difference.

Dr. Tom Behler


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi,

Once you’re in forms mode try tab away from and then back to the edit
field… sometimes this will work.

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 22, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Tom Behler via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Bill:

I tried this, but no joy.

I still get the higher click, which indicates to me that I'm in forms
mode, but I still can't enter text into a search or edit box.

Have tried this on google, and on several other search sites.

This is the case whether I tab or arrow down to the forms field.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field

Hi, Tom. I don't know that this would solve your particular issue,
but, sometimes, refreshing the page with the function key 5, F5, will
bring up a search box where you can enter data.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 5:08 PM
Subject: Can't Enter Text Into Forms Mode Field


Hello, everyone.



I'm still having issues typing characters into the edit box when on
the internet with my home Windows 7 PC.



I can arrow down or tab until I hear the forms mode sound, but when I
type, nothing gets entered into the edit box.



I had someone sighted check, and nothing gets entered onto the screen
when
I
do the typing in forms mode, even though the sound indicates I'm in
forms mode.



I find the issue both in Internet Explorer and in Firefox. And, I
have tried performing searches on several different web sites where
info needs to be entered into the search box.





Is there a Jaws or other setting I should check to troubleshoot the
issue?



For the record, I'm using Jaws 14 on this particular computer.



Thank you!



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