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Re: use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
As Dean pointed out, it is primarily useful in connection with the mouseover keystroke. If, for example, I log into my credit card processor’s portal I have items like “Administration”, “Terminal”, “Reports” etc. These items are mouseover links which means that if a sighted person hovers over, for example, “Terminal” then they see a new menu pop up further down on the screen with things like “Purchase”, “Refund”, “Void” etc. If I press enter on any of them nothing at all happens, but if I use the Jaws Key + Control + Enter keystroke to activate the mouseover link, Jaws will say “change at line 9” I then immediately press “J” and follow this by 9 and enter, Jaws will go to line 9 and now if I down arrow I can see and access all the options which have appeared there. I find many websites use such mouseover links and in some cases they are properly labelled and Jaws will announce them as mouseoever, in other cases it may just say “link” or possibly nothing at all to identify what it is, but if I press enter on something and nothing apparently happens I always try the mouseoever link keyboard shortcut.
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 8:55 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
Robin and All, It is an annoyance to me and I have never used it. LOL, As if I would know which line something is on. You are correct, a place marker makes more sense. I'm not sure what it's good for. In fact, if I didn't sometimes erroneously hit the letter J on a web page, I would not even remember the jump to line function is there to use. Glenn
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Re: use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
Glenn / Lenny
Robin and All,
It is an annoyance to me and I have never used
it.
LOL, As if I would know which line something is
on.
You are correct, a place marker makes more
sense.
I'm not sure what it's good for.
In fact, if I didn't sometimes erroneously hit the
letter J on a web page, I would not even remember the jump to line function is
there to use.
Glenn
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Re: use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
Dean Martineau
The big reason that was instituted is to support the OnMouseOver keystroke, ctrl+shift+enter. When you use that keystroke on an OnMouseOver element, if JAWS detects a change, it will say, “Change at line xx.” So you use J and type that line number to see if the change is of any benefit.
I hadn’t thought of using that feature as a sort of place marker replacement. I don’t know how many line numbers I could retain at my age!
Dean
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 11:24 AM To: JFW List (jfw@groups.io) <jfw@groups.io> Subject: use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
I’m curious how people use the Jump to line option in virtual view. Do you see a benefit of this over setting a place marker? It’s a new feature since moving to JAWS, so just wondering how to use it to my advantage.
Robin Windows 10, JAWS 2020
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use of Jump to Line feature in web pages
Van Lant, Robin
I’m curious how people use the Jump to line option in virtual view. Do you see a benefit of this over setting a place marker? It’s a new feature since moving to JAWS, so just wondering how to use it to my advantage.
Robin Windows 10, JAWS 2020
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Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws
David Kingsbury
Hello,
While it is easy to download, I would be very interested to know if it is accessible. Last time I checked, it was completely inaccessible. David
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Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws
Leo
Hi Pramit, thank you! I thoroughly followed your instructions and
successfully installed the add-in.
Best, Leo On 3/30/2020 7:44 PM, Pramit wrote:
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Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently
Arkadiusz Świętnicki
Interactive menu like in Leasey? I wonder how can I store settings for my scripts.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 11:28 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently
Here's a download link for the 2 audio tutorials on the My Extensions file and 1 audio tutorial on how to create an Interactive Menu list from the My Extensions file. Very informative.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mario Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Need to extend jFW functionality by scripts, how to do it efficiently
Mike, what version started using the myextensions method of adding
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virtual machines
Marvin Hunkin
Hi. Using jaws 2020 , nvda 2019.3 windows 10 64 bit pro. On a assus laptop. Doing a network course from http://www.upskilled.edu.au. Got a free dedicated server for assignments from http://www.heropa.com. But only for assignments and assessments. As their web tool is totally unuser friendly and not accessible. Looking to rebuild. So looking for a free vm. Did sign up for the vmware workstation education, but was rejected my application. Not sure. And also listening to videos from http://www.pluralsight.com and from http://www.linedinlearning.com. Vm ware player, asks for me to turn off credential guard manager and security settings, if people are familiar with that. Now, tried that and when trying to install windows server 2016 iso, could not turn that feature off. In vritual box, no way to turn the audio on, and it kept either crashing or powering off. Hyper v manager the same. So can any one doing a networking course, let me know. And Microsoft azure, trying to set up a free student account, would not recognize my landline voip phone. Don’t have a mobile phone, credit card, paypal. And now, any one got any good recommendations for a free, accessible vm, that will work with jaws, nvda, windows narrator. And able to then install such server os as windows server 2008 r2, 2012, 2016, docker, etc. Any ideas or help. Want to get my hands dirty and learn how to install, configure and use networking. Any one got any ideas or in the same boat. My college does not have a dedicated online server. Doing this online and with about 11 other sighted students. Any ideas. Help. Thanks.
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Re: Firefox Is Not Responding
Pramit
Hi Annabelle, Firefox and some plugins use your graphics card to help speed up the display of web content. Graphic cards are also used by advanced web features like WebGL. To fix problems with these features or to take advantage of them, you may need to update your graphics card drivers. Unfortunately, due to the wide range of possible driver, video card and operating system combinations, hardware acceleration or 3D web graphics (WebGL) may still not work for you in Firefox. In these instances you fix the problems by disabling hardware acceleration and WebGL. Hope this helps Pramit
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:02 AM Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote: I think I may have figured out why Firefox stops responding. I went into the
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Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws
Pramit
Hi Leo, You can get the Grammarly add-in from their website itself. Adding the link below and steps on how to activate it in your MS Word. https://www.grammarly.com/office-addin/windows To activate Grammarly, open MS Word and navigate to File > Options > Add-ins > Under Manage select COM Add-ins > Check Grammarly > Click OK. Hope this helps Pramit
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 6:21 AM Leo <literophilus@...> wrote:
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Re: email is an image of text. How do I read it?
Stan Holdeman
Thanks. This worked for me in this case at least.
Stan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Van Lant, Robin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 6:47 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: email is an image of text. How do I read it?
I have also tried saving the whole email message as a pdf by selecting Microsoft print to PDF on in the printer dialog box. Then I use JAWS OCR on a pdf or Kurzweil 1000 to scan it. Sadly, many of these images are so graphics rich that the scan is hit or miss. I might call AIRA or Be My Eyes on it if I think it’s really important.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Here are the commands for Convenient OCR which I got by pressing insert+spacebar, then o then QuestionMark. The following commands are available in the OCR layer.
And, in case this is needed, the Picture Smart commands are: The following commands are available in the Picture Smart layer. Acquire and describe an image from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A. From Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F. From the computer screen or application, you can describe a Control with the letter C. An image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B. An image can be described by saving it to the "PictureSmart" directory in your User's "Pictures" folder.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Stan Holdeman
Friends: Using W10 and J2020 last updated
I have an email in which the text is apparently an image of text. What is the best way to get it into radable form?
I assume convenient OCR is the way, but I am badly fumbling with it.
Stan
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Re: What's your thought on using Grammarly with Jaws
Leo
Hi Michael, how did you add this extension to Microsoft Word? Just for you to know, I'm using office 2019 and would like to have something like this on my machine.
Best, Leo On 3/30/2020 3:56 PM, Michael Munn
wrote:
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Re: How to Read Kindle Books with Jaws Keyboard Commands
Chris Hill
Weird, but try hitting alt to bring up the menus and then hitting it again to make them go away, that seems to let jaws start working with the content.
Loook in the options for a setting about page turn animations, make sure it is off. When on, jaws commands don't work, when off they do.
On 3/30/2020 16:05, Ed Culpepper wrote:
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Re: Speak On
David Diamond
Well, the only one I had to cut and paste was 02. The rest I just clicked on the link then put them in my VR stream.
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Re: email is an image of text. How do I read it?
Van Lant, Robin
I have also tried saving the whole email message as a pdf by selecting Microsoft print to PDF on in the printer dialog box. Then I use JAWS OCR on a pdf or Kurzweil 1000 to scan it. Sadly, many of these images are so graphics rich that the scan is hit or miss. I might call AIRA or Be My Eyes on it if I think it’s really important.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:26 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: email is an image of text. How do I read it?
Here are the commands for Convenient OCR which I got by pressing insert+spacebar, then o then QuestionMark. The following commands are available in the OCR layer.
And, in case this is needed, the Picture Smart commands are: The following commands are available in the Picture Smart layer. Acquire and describe an image from a Scanner or Freedom Scientific Camera such as PEARL, using the letter A. From Windows Explorer, you can describe any image file using the letter F. From the computer screen or application, you can describe a Control with the letter C. An image on the clipboard can be described using the letter B. An image can be described by saving it to the "PictureSmart" directory in your User's "Pictures" folder.
Richard "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Stan Holdeman
Friends: Using W10 and J2020 last updated
I have an email in which the text is apparently an image of text. What is the best way to get it into radable form?
I assume convenient OCR is the way, but I am badly fumbling with it.
Stan
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Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center
Mike B
This is wrong! I accidentally copied the wrong dialogue
box.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper! But, good news! Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to: The Daily Wipe!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings
Center Here's what the dialogue should read:
This check box allows you to enable or disable automatic
language detection. If you select this check box, JAWS detects changes in
languages within documents which support language tags and then reads using the
appropriate synthesizer voice for that language.
For example, if JAWS finds Spanish text on a Web page, that text is spoken using a Spanish voice. This detection only affects those synthesizers, such as Eloquence or Vocalizer Expressive, that support multiple languages. If you clear this check box, JAWS does not change the voice of the synthesizer when reading text written in another language. By default, this option is checked in all applications except Microsoft Outlook. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper! But, good news! Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to: The Daily Wipe! ----- Original Message -----
From: fenderwal@...
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings
Center If you arrow to general> text processing, you will hear
that same description about overall behavior. Looks like someone mislabeled
detect keyboard language. The error exists as far back as JFW 18, for what it's
worth. From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arkadiusz Swietnicki Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:33 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center Nothing really serious, but here it is: Detect keyboard language has a label that says Use the options in this group to control overall speech behavior. That is not quite correct, is it?
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Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center
Mario
from the Speech History, the following is what JAWS says about my default configuration:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Text Processing General Detect Languages checked This check box allows you to enable or disable automatic language detection. If you select this check box, JAWS detects changes in languages within documents which support language tags and then reads using the appropriate synthesizer voice for that language. For example, if JAWS finds Spanish text on a Web page, that text is spoken using a Spanish voice. This detection only affects those synthesizers, such as Eloquence or Vocalizer Expressive, that support multiple languages. If you clear this check box, JAWS does not change the voice of the synthesizer when reading text written in another language. By default, this option is checked in all applications except Microsoft Outlook. Detect Keyboard Language checked Use the options in this group to control overall speech behavior. so the description for Detect Keyboard Language should be the same for Detect Languages? the original question was about the label for Detect keyboard language being correct... so, is it correct? and if not, what should it be and is there a way to correct (edit) the description?
-------- Original Message --------
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@...] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Monday, March 30, 2020, 12:48 PM Subject: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center Here's what the dialogue should read: This check box allows you to enable or disable automatic language detection. If you select this check box, JAWS detects changes in languages within documents which support language tags and then reads using the appropriate synthesizer voice for that language. For example, if JAWS finds Spanish text on a Web page, that text is spoken using a Spanish voice. This detection only affects those synthesizers, such as Eloquence or Vocalizer Expressive, that support multiple languages. If you clear this check box, JAWS does not change the voice of the synthesizer when reading text written in another language. By default, this option is checked in all applications except Microsoft Outlook. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers! I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone can buy toilet paper! But, good news! Due to the hording of toilet paper the LA Times is temporarily changing it's name to: The Daily Wipe! ----- Original Message ----- *From:* fenderwal@... <mailto:fenderwal@...> *To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2020 3:17 AM *Subject:* Re: JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center If you arrow to general> text processing, you will hear that same description about overall behavior. Looks like someone mislabeled detect keyboard language. The error exists as far back as JFW 18, for what it's worth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Arkadiusz Swietnicki *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2020 1:33 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* JAWS bug: wrong tip for one option in settings Center Nothing really serious, but here it is: Detect keyboard language has a label that says Use the options in this group to control overall speech behavior. That is not quite correct, is it?
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Re: Tyler Littlefield creates accessible Covid-19 statistics tracker - Blind Bargains
David Csercsics
Also works with firefox. Probably works with Edge as well.
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Re: email is an image of text. How do I read it?
May I ask what file format the attachment is in to begin with?
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them. ~ Joshua Liebman
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Re: Tyler Littlefield creates accessible Covid-19 statistics tracker - Blind Bargains
Richard
Appears to work fine with Chrome.
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Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <thegothot@...> To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Tyler Littlefield creates accessible Covid-19 statistics tracker - Blind Bargains Wehn attempting to open the tracker from the blind bargains site, I got the following with IE: This page can’t be displayed This page can’t be displayed Turn on TLS 1.0, TLS 1.1, and TLS 1.2 in Advanced settings and try connecting to https://cvstats.net again. If this error persists, it is possible that this site uses an unsupported protocol or cipher suite such as RC4 (link for the details), which is not considered secure. Please contact your site administrator. Change settings Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Turner" <richardturner42@...> To: "Main JFW user list" <main@jfw.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 10:42 AM Subject: Tyler Littlefield creates accessible Covid-19 statistics tracker - Blind Bargains https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=21613 Richard "Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous (Sent from my iPhone SE) Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219&sdata=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D&reserved=0> “
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