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Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Michal,

You are correct… checked means on, and no status indication means off.

HTH

Russell

On Aug 13, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Russell and All,

I encountered the same accessibility barrier when trying to disable this
feature. I assumed that "checked" means "on, while no status indication
signifies "off." Can anyone confirm if this is in fact correct? I don't
have System Access to verify myself. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank
you in advance for your help.

Best Wishes,

Michal

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hi Mark,

Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze me with
some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term loosely,
feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up here, I would
have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! Amazing!
Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home computer 6
years agowas the right choice!

Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn off
this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as "checked" so it was
really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I unloaded Jaws and
loaded System Access. System Access announced "Switch button On" and "Switch
button Off", which helped me to know for sure that I was actually turning
this feature off.

Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much bandwidth,
I'm sure! :)

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 "Start Button" and select Settings

2.
Select Update & security from the Settings menu.

3.
Click Advanced options

4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered

5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off

6.
All done!


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Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Russell and All,

I encountered the same accessibility barrier when trying to disable this
feature. I assumed that "checked" means "on, while no status indication
signifies "off." Can anyone confirm if this is in fact correct? I don't
have System Access to verify myself. I would greatly appreciate it. Thank
you in advance for your help.

Best Wishes,

Michal

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Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hi Mark,

Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze me with
some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term loosely,
feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up here, I would
have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! Amazing!
Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home computer 6
years agowas the right choice!

Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn off
this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as "checked" so it was
really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I unloaded Jaws and
loaded System Access. System Access announced "Switch button On" and "Switch
button Off", which helped me to know for sure that I was actually turning
this feature off.

Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much bandwidth,
I'm sure! :)

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 "Start Button" and select Settings

2.
Select Update & security from the Settings menu.

3.
Click Advanced options

4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered

5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off

6.
All done!


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Re: firefox 40

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Jim. I'm still using JAWS13, and I have also updated to Firefox40. Not having any problems here. Could be dependent upon your version of JAWS, Windows, or something as yet to be determined. I'm hoping it is something about JAWS16, since it might work in the next JAWS update.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Cc: "Jim L" <jimscave@tpg.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:59 PM
Subject: firefox 40


Heya folks,

Just had a firefox update to version 40 or something like that, anyway, for
some reason getting around the options screen with Jaws 16 is a challenge
with alot of unlabeled buttons also, anyone else having this issue?

Cheers,

Jim



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Re: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others Without Your Permission

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi Mark,

Wow! I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but MS nevver ceases to amaze me with
some of the choices they make! Why would this, to use the term loosely,
feature, be turned on by default? If you hadn't brought it up here, I would
have unwittingly been sharing my bandwidth with who knows who! Amazing!
Another confirmation that switching to the Mac as my main home computer 6
years agowas the right choice!

Just as an aside to this... when I followed your instructions to turn off
this feature, Jaws only read the On/Off switch button as "checked" so it was
really unclear as to what I was checking or unchecking. I unloaded Jaws and
loaded System Access. System Access announced "Switch button On" and "Switch
button Off", which helped me to know for sure that I was actually turning
this feature off.

Thanks Mark for bringing this to our attention! You saved me much bandwidth,
I'm sure! :)

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'Jaws for Windows' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mark <facebookmark@candleshoreblog.com>
Subject: How To Stop Windows 10 from Sharing Your Bandwidth With Others
Without Your Permission

Hello My Fellow Windows 10 Users,

You know, I was becoming less and less enthusiastic about Windows 10 as it
does so many things, in terms of sharing our personal information, and now,
it seems, even our band-width without our expressed permission, until I
discovered how to control it's somewhat hidden options.

Please read the following, carefully, to discover how to disable this, in my
opinion, very unwelcomed feature.

Mark

How to Disable Windows 10 Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO)

By default, Windows 10 is using your bandwidth by way of a new 'feature'
called Windows Update Delivery Optimization (WUDO). In a nutshell, Windows
10 is uploading files in the background to other Windows 10 users. This
brief guide will explain how to disable the Windows Update Delivery
Optimization service.

1.
Click the Windows 10 "Start Button" and select Settings

2.
Select Update & security from the Settings menu.

3.
Click Advanced options

4.
Click Choose how updates are delivered

5.
Finally, toggle Updates from more than one place to Off

6.
All done!


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Difficulty resetting preferences for this list serve...

HAMILTON
 

Please advise re steps to change my preferences. As it stands now, I am
getting far too many messages to manage, and they are wiping out my "data
usage" on my smart phone.

Thanks.

Jim H

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test

Ryan McManomy
 


Help with Windows 8 Alarms and JAWS

Debbie April Yuille
 

Hello All



Can anyone tell me if there is away to access the alarm notification in
windows 8 with jaws when it goes off. Also the JAWS volume is turned right
down when the alarm is chiming which makes jaws really hard to hear.



Thanks

Debbie

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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Gezim Rexha
 

Hi all,

Recently I configured my gmail account with Ms Outlook 2007, however, I failed to configure mo hotmail account. It said it was finished, but then it would not show any messages in the hotmail folders. Any ideas or advice?

Cheers,
Gezim

Sent from my iPhone

On 12/08/2015, at 18:08, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I have not found a quick method for transferring my contacts from WLM to
Outlook yet.
Outlook has considerably more features than WLM, consequently more stuff to
learn. Except Outlook does not have a very useful emoticon feature, smile.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 6:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you went to Live Mail, what did you do about your Contacts?

Is it easy to make distribution lists in Windows Live Mail. I have several
that I need to make. Today, I needed to send out word of a death to one of
my groups, but do not have the lists now and not the time to go through some
130 contacts for 30.

What do you like about Windows Live Mail? Does it have a calendar?

Can you tab around in it, or do you have to give Keyboard commands?

Carolyn Arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I have used Outlook, and I was annoyed with it. So, I went to Windows live
mail, and have had no issues with it. I suppose it all depends on what you
do with it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Melissa, if you press Control Y, it asks if you want to go to another
folder and announces how many unread messages are in the file that you
are in. I wish it was as easy as Outlook Express, but there are a lot
of things that I do like about it. I can live with it. It's kind of
like getting a new job, having to leave the old one behind.

Carolyn Arnold

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Stott via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:59 PM
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Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I use Windows Live Mail.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Worth the wait? (Was "What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?")

Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...>
 

I like Dave's approach.
In a surprising number of instances, I've had JAWS seemingly come
back to life after unplugging a sound card or device. Here I'm
talking about a USB sound card or a USB headset. Who knows?
This seems to work for some reason, but perhaps the activity of
just doing something makes the wait seem shorter.
Perhaps I'll try Dave's approach to see if it produces the same
results.
<SMILE>

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:29 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Yes, I usually just get a shot of single malt to get me through
the wait.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 01:16 PM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

You have more patience than I. If JAWS does not return within a
minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of
JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened
JAWS. Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention
actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is
going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no "eyes" are around, it feels like the world has
been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing. I usually
try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System +
Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know
that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a
thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm
sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening! For some reason, I never got around to, nor
frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may
have proven
to be "far-sighted" after all. I think that I may adopt your 3
most-recent
version strategy myself. However, once someone moves to Windows
10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10. So,
for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest
JAWS
offering? Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or
miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
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Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is
running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications.
I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a
particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just
to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last
revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space
to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be "smart"; but, why would you want to use previous
versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully. I'm
sure that
there is a really good reason for it! :) :)

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: john.falter <john.falter@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground. I
don't
think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
though. Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's
dominant
position.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of
this,
um, adage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Daniel
McBride via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local
deer stand
feeder.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Adrian
Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date
refers
to the
end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time?
I'm
waiting
for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and
FS's first
rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the
year.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Bill
White via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to
upgrade,
Windows10 won't be free anymore.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great
interest, and
I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or
IE. (I'm
doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail
program;
you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm
doing that
now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF
documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem
to
indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really
like to
know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new
operating
system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only
benefit I can
see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of
2020, where
Windows
7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that
should
cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying,
"If it
ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly
like to
know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything
beneficial in
the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your
functioning
computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana,
as in
mall?
--
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Accessibility with google chrome

John Chan <aznboyz4sho@...>
 

Is jaws accessible with google chrome cast?

Sent from Mac's iPhone


Re: firefox 40

Brad Martin
 

I don't think I would. I think I'd probably uninstall the latest version, then install the older; and when you install the older, don't install the maintenance service, or you'll get the new one right back again. If you have any bookmarks, you might want to back them up before uninstalling Firefox 40.

Brad

On 8/12/2015 10:15 PM, Jim L via Jfw wrote:
Ive downloaded the previous version, how can I install it now? Can I just
install over the top of this latest version?



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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 10:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: firefox 40

Mine's still showing Firefox 39.0.3. I do know that several versions back
they rearranged the way the options were set up, so it's possible they've
done it again. I'm running JAWS 15 here, so if mine updates, I'll check for
irregularities. Meanwhile, if it's that much of a problem, I won't force the
update. Incidentally, if you ever need to, Mozilla has every single version
of Firefox (including beta versions) archived.

Brad



On 8/12/2015 8:59 PM, Jim L via Jfw wrote:
Heya folks,

Just had a firefox update to version 40 or something like that,
anyway, for some reason getting around the options screen with Jaws 16
is a challenge with alot of unlabeled buttons also, anyone else having
this issue?
Cheers,

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Re: firefox 40

Jim L
 

Ive downloaded the previous version, how can I install it now? Can I just
install over the top of this latest version?

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2015 10:51 AM
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Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Re: firefox 40

Mine's still showing Firefox 39.0.3. I do know that several versions back
they rearranged the way the options were set up, so it's possible they've
done it again. I'm running JAWS 15 here, so if mine updates, I'll check for
irregularities. Meanwhile, if it's that much of a problem, I won't force the
update. Incidentally, if you ever need to, Mozilla has every single version
of Firefox (including beta versions) archived.

Brad



On 8/12/2015 8:59 PM, Jim L via Jfw wrote:
Heya folks,

Just had a firefox update to version 40 or something like that,
anyway, for some reason getting around the options screen with Jaws 16
is a challenge with alot of unlabeled buttons also, anyone else having
this issue?

Cheers,

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Re: firefox 40

Brad Martin
 

Mine's still showing Firefox 39.0.3. I do know that several versions back they rearranged the way the options were set up, so it's possible they've done it again. I'm running JAWS 15 here, so if mine updates, I'll check for irregularities. Meanwhile, if it's that much of a problem, I won't force the update. Incidentally, if you ever need to, Mozilla has every single version of Firefox (including beta versions) archived.

Brad

On 8/12/2015 8:59 PM, Jim L via Jfw wrote:
Heya folks,

Just had a firefox update to version 40 or something like that, anyway, for
some reason getting around the options screen with Jaws 16 is a challenge
with alot of unlabeled buttons also, anyone else having this issue?

Cheers,

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firefox 40

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

Just had a firefox update to version 40 or something like that, anyway, for
some reason getting around the options screen with Jaws 16 is a challenge
with alot of unlabeled buttons also, anyone else having this issue?

Cheers,

Jim


Re: Learning JAWS scripting

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

I very much like your idea, and would be glad to see it become available. Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:54 PM
To: JAWS Users
Cc: Paul Martz
Subject: Learning JAWS scripting

Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some thoughts.

First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is here:
https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups, just straight information about JSL whenever I learn something interesting. The "JSL #1" post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language resources that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other resources.

Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project about JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting this book online as a wikibook is that the information would be much more likely to stay up-to-date and relevant; people could immediately correct any typos or mistakes; and of course the book would be free to all and readily available online. I have written technical books in the past, so this wouldn't be too much of a stretch for me. (I just need to learn it first. Ha ha.)

The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from Freedom Scientific that is already available, what kind of content would I / we need to provide in this new online resource in order to make it worthwhile? What would you like to know about JSL that you can't already learn from the FS docs? Would we want something like a brief overview of JAWS scripting? Or maybe a "quick start guide" to get you up and running with the basics? Or possibly a "scripting gems" kind of book, with several examples of JAWS scripts? Or a language reference? Or all of the above? Of course, "we don't need this, the FS docs are fine" is also an acceptable response.

Any thoughts or comments... Thanks...
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Re: Learning JAWS scripting

Mario
 

Paul, since no one has responded, here's my thought:

in addition to your ideas, what the blind user who wants to get into writing JAWS scripts really needs is to learn basic concepts of programming in order to do the nifty stuff, like using functions, arrays, etc.

about 12 years ago when I tried my hand at scripting,there was a document called "Everything you wanted to know about scripting, ...", written by Kenneth A. Gould. I think it's still on FS's website or some where else... it was divided into two parts.

the first part dealt with the basic stuff, like how to get started, syntax, etc. but the second part dealt with stuff that assumed that the user had prior programming knowledge about concepts, techniques, etc. like the knowledge one would attain after programming for a while... a good while.

since you've programmed for about 3 decades,... I think it was you, ... you could fill in the missing explanation that a newbie would need to comprehend before attempting to try their hand at scripting.

creating a wiki sounds like a good idea, this way other experienced programmers could also contribute to the cause, working out explainations of different concepts, and whatever else would be important. but it should be that a newbie needs to register and login in order to read and/or contribute. and I'd also suggest that only the experienced programmers have the right to add/modify these materials that teach the needed concepts and explainations, effectively preventing mis information by any newbie. the experienced programmer who would want to contribute would have to send an email request , to you?, to be approved. if this last part doesn't sit well with you, something has to be done to ensure that the newbie is not mis informed of explainations and whatever else would be important to understand.

your thoughts?

On 8/12/2015 2:53 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Hi all. A few days ago, there was some discussion on learning JAWS
scripting. I've started learning it myself, and wanted to post some
thoughts.

First, I've decided to blog about JSL as I learn it. My blog page is here:
https://skewmatrix.wordpress.com/ . No advertisements or popups, just
straight information about JSL whenever I learn something interesting. The
"JSL #1" post enumerates the available JAWS Scripting Language resources
that I've found. Please post comments if you know of other resources.

Second, I'm toying with the idea of starting an online book project about
JSL, for example at wikibooks.com. The advantage of putting this book online
as a wikibook is that the information would be much more likely to stay
up-to-date and relevant; people could immediately correct any typos or
mistakes; and of course the book would be free to all and readily available
online. I have written technical books in the past, so this wouldn't be too
much of a stretch for me. (I just need to learn it first. Ha ha.)

The question is: In light of the wonderful documentation from Freedom
Scientific that is already available, what kind of content would I / we need
to provide in this new online resource in order to make it worthwhile? What
would you like to know about JSL that you can't already learn from the FS
docs? Would we want something like a brief overview of JAWS scripting? Or
maybe a "quick start guide" to get you up and running with the basics? Or
possibly a "scripting gems" kind of book, with several examples of JAWS
scripts? Or a language reference? Or all of the above? Of course, "we don't
need this, the FS docs are fine" is also an acceptable response.

Any thoughts or comments... Thanks...
-Paul



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Re: JAWS REPEATING

Dale Heltzer
 

Maybe not a bug, but also *not acceptable.



Dale E. Heltzer
deheltzer@msn.com

"A foolish consestency is tha hobgabljyn Qf littwe mjndz." - Ralph Waldo
Emerson via Howard Ashby Kranz

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Paul Martz
Subject: RE: JAWS REPEATING

As others have noted, I think the repetitive title reading is within the
realm of acceptable behavior and probably not a bug.

Honestly, I can't recall the last time I visited a web page and actually
wanted it to read the whole page top to bottom. When I land on a page, I
pretty much immediately start tabbing through the links, H through the
headings, or E to jump to an edit box. Any such key press causes JAWS to
immediately stop reading the title. You could also hit CONTROL of course.

I hope that helps.
-Paul


-----Original Message-----
I have had the same irritating experience.
Anyone else?

-----Original Message-----
Running latest jaws.
When I go to a web page, jaws speaks 3 times the beginning.

Why and is there a fix?

Thank you for saving my hearing!
Mark


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Re: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8 Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Daniel McBride
 

I second this emotion for Joseph, and all others, with their generous
sharing of information to help a computer dummy like myself. It is truly
appreciated.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:22 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Joeseph,

I really appreciate some of the more technical info you offer to the list!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:48 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Daniel,
Unfortunately, this isn't available on Windows 7, as Hybrid Boot was
introduced with Windows 8.x.
Regarding having Fast Startup on or off: it depends on your needs. You
should not use Fast Startup if:
* You are using multi-boot setup - other operating systems besides Windows
8.x/10 installed. This is more so on MACBooks and other computers.
* You are doing frequent hardware upgrades. If you do enable Fast Startup,
it'll not recognize new hardware, as Windows will think it is running on the
old hardware.
* Your disk space is precious. Hybrid Boot (Fast Startup) will use some disk
space (just enough for Windows system components to hibernate).
You might try using Fast Startup if:
* You need your computer to boot in seconds. Reports claim Windows 8 boots
in as little as seven seconds with Fast Startup turned on.
* Your computer uses UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface; to find
out, from Windows 8.x and later, from Start, type System Information).
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Mark:

How does one do this in Windows 7?

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mark
Subject: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hello Everyone,

Joe is quite correct. I did use the incorrect term to describe how to truly
shut down a computer.

I should never compose emails after 11:00pm (smile).

Below you will find the steps as previously posted but with the correct
terminology. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.

By the way, as to the question of should one disable the Fast-Startup
feature; the only reason this topic got on-list was because someone asked
why Jaws kept announcing itself when she/he shut down the PC.

The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to
disable the Fast-startup option. Doing this will allow your computer to
truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.

To disable Fast-startup, do the following:

1.
Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
methods:
a.
Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press
the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
Power Options from that menu.
b.
From within the Desktop; navigate to Control Panel>Power Options.
Or c.
From within the Start Screen; type "power", click on Settings, and select
Power Options from the list of results:

2.
In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do
(from the left hand panel):

3.
In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently unavailable:

4.
Uncheck Fast-startup.

That's all there is to it.

Enjoy,

Mark


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configuring windows 10 to truly shud down:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi I have a laptop that runs windows 10, and it use the old bios firmware boot method to boot, and when I checked in the power options to see where this fast startup option was, I found the option and noticed that it was checked. I upgraded this machine from windows 7 to windows 10 and noticed that option. Should I turn this option of? And one more question.
I noticed that I see a password required radio button, and I don't have a password created on my machine. Should I turn this off as well?
Kenny Peyatt


Re: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Because Fast Startup stores the image of your computer memory on disk, and not in memory, I don't think this is going to affect battery usage.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Michal Nowicki" <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer


I don't think it would affect battery life significantly, but it might
improve it slightly. That said, it is probably not worthwhile disabling
fast startup just to preserve battery power.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:56 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Londa Peterson <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

I've had this same experience with JAWS in demo mode. A restart will reset
the clock on the demo. By the way, does disabling fast start have any effect
on a laptop's battery? I find that I'll shut my computer down and unplug it
to take it somewhere, and when I get there I find that the battery has
drained-sometimes quite significantly. Would disabling fast start fix this?

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Fast Startup should also be disabled if you are running JAWS (or any FS
products) in 40 minute demo mode because the system must shut down
completely in order for the clock in the demo software to reset. I found
this out the hard way when I purchased my laptop running Windows 8 and had
to temporarily use the JAWS demo before activating the software.

Now that I am using the paid release, though, I personally would never
disable fast startup because, as the name implies, my computer boots up much
faster than it would after a full shut down.

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Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:48 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hi Daniel,
Unfortunately, this isn't available on Windows 7, as Hybrid Boot was
introduced with Windows 8.x.
Regarding having Fast Startup on or off: it depends on your needs. You
should not use Fast Startup if:
* You are using multi-boot setup - other operating systems besides Windows
8.x/10 installed. This is more so on MACBooks and other computers.
* You are doing frequent hardware upgrades. If you do enable Fast Startup,
it'll not recognize new hardware, as Windows will think it is running on the
old hardware.
* Your disk space is precious. Hybrid Boot (Fast Startup) will use some disk
space (just enough for Windows system components to hibernate).
You might try using Fast Startup if:
* You need your computer to boot in seconds. Reports claim Windows 8 boots
in as little as seven seconds with Fast Startup turned on.
* Your computer uses UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface; to find
out, from Windows 8.x and later, from Start, type System Information).
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Mark:

How does one do this in Windows 7?

Daniel

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mark
Subject: Correction: How To Configure Either The Windows 10 or Windows 8
Shutdown Menu To Truly Turn Off Your Computer

Hello Everyone,

Joe is quite correct. I did use the incorrect term to describe how to truly
shut down a computer.

I should never compose emails after 11:00pm (smile).

Below you will find the steps as previously posted but with the correct
terminology. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.

By the way, as to the question of should one disable the Fast-Startup
feature; the only reason this topic got on-list was because someone asked
why Jaws kept announcing itself when she/he shut down the PC.

The following steps will work in both Windows 10 and Windows 8.x in order to
disable the Fast-startup option. Doing this will allow your computer to
truly be shut-down as it was in Windows 7 and earlier.

To disable Fast-startup, do the following:

1.
Access Windows 10 Power Options. This can easily be achieved using several
methods:
a.
Right click in the lower left corner of the screen (or simultaneously press
the Windows + X keys). This will bring up an 'Admin' menu. Simply select
Power Options from that menu.
b.
From within the Desktop; navigate to Control Panel>Power Options.
Or c.
From within the Start Screen; type "power", click on Settings, and select
Power Options from the list of results:

2.
In the 'Power Options' window; click on Choose what the power buttons do
(from the left hand panel):

3.
In the new window; click on Change settings that are currently unavailable:

4.
Uncheck Fast-startup.

That's all there is to it.

Enjoy,

Mark


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