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JAWS 16 and IE 11

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We're about to migrate to 11 here at DMS, anything I should know? I've been having serious stability problems with our Silverlight interface, and I'm hoping this might help. I've seen upgrades work before on similar problems.

Ted

Ted Lisle, PH.D., Medicaid services Specialist; phone: (502) 564-2574, X 2054; Fax: (502) 564-2228.


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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That goes for me too. I wasn't even aware of that submenu. Last time I made that change, it was under Internet Options.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 3:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Thanks. I'm glad you knew. In case Julie is still reading this thread, you get to the edit menu by pressing alt-e when Adobe is in focus.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Reading PDF with Jaws


You are on the right track. In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu and scroll all the way down to the Accessibility submenu and select Set-up Assistant.
On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up Assistant is a check box labeled "DisplayPDF documents in the web browser" which should be unchecked so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe Reader outside of the browser and not by the browser's PDF reader add-on, which does not always work, especially in Windows 7 and later. .

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different problem.

Thanks for any help.


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I would like to know when will sonar x 3 be ready?

David Ingram
 

Hi, this message is for John Martyn. I'm interested in knowing when will
sonar x3 be ready? I can be reached at dingram269@earthlink.net
<mailto:dingram269@earthlink.net> Thank you

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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Drew Hunthausen
 

I've just figured out how to read a PDF doc I have with regards to all these
settings in Adobe Reader listed below. The document reads well with Jaws,
the only thing I cannot figure out is how to save it with the changes so I
don't have to go through the whole process every time I open it to read. Any
help is greatly appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 11:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Reading PDF with Jaws


You are on the right track. In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu and scroll
all the way down to the Accessibility submenu and select Set-up Assistant.
On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up Assistant is a check box
labeled "DisplayPDF documents in the web browser" which should be unchecked
so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe Reader outside of the
browser and not by the browser's PDF reader add-on, which does not always
work, especially in Windows 7 and later. .

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find
the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which
you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe
webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to
your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple
answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe
solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch
to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: turning off virtual ribbons

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

More than welcome, J.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:44 PM
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Cc: j Bron <jbron@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: turning off virtual ribbons

Bingo! Thanks, JB

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:43 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: turning off virtual ribbons

You go into JAWS Verbosity, Insert V. Arrow down until you will find
Virtual Ribbon on or off. Check it to where you want it by hitting
Spacebar then Escape.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:38 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
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Subject: turning off virtual ribbons

Based on what a lister just wrote how do you turn off virtual ribbons?

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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks. I'm glad you knew. In case Julie is still reading this thread, you get to the edit menu by pressing alt-e when Adobe is in focus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Reading PDF with Jaws


You are on the right track. In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu and scroll
all the way down to the Accessibility submenu and select Set-up Assistant.
On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up Assistant is a check box
labeled "DisplayPDF documents in the web browser" which should be unchecked
so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe Reader outside of the
browser and not by the browser's PDF reader add-on, which does not always
work, especially in Windows 7 and later. .

Gerald



-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find
the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which
you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe
webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to
your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple
answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe
solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch
to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Using thunderbird with jfw 17

John Martyn
 

www.DoItBlind.com/ThunderbirdBlind/
HTH
John

On 10/12/2015 10:29 AM, Mark Furness via Jfw wrote:
Hi,
I just installed Mozilla Thunderbird 38 on my win 10 machine.

Does anybody have any tips for using it? For example, I can’t seem to get to my in box for the account I have configured to read mail..

Thanks!
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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I can't find it either, and I've been looking. I just scoured Internet Options and came up empty.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Gerald Levy
 

You are on the right track. In Adobe Reader, go to the Edit menu and scroll all the way down to the Accessibility submenu and select Set-up Assistant. On page 5 of 5, the last page, of the Set-up Assistant is a check box labeled "DisplayPDF documents in the web browser" which should be unchecked so that the web page is processed directly by Adobe Reader outside of the browser and not by the browser's PDF reader add-on, which does not always work, especially in Windows 7 and later. .

Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch
to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Adrian Spratt
 

I was afraid you'd ask! I think it used to be simple, but I couldn't find the relevant setting in Adobe. If it's anywhere, it's in preferences, which you can reach quickly by pressing control-k.

So just now I went to Google. The following link takes you to an Adobe webpage that provides instructions. Basically, they say you need to go to your browser and make the change there. Sorry I can't give you a simple answer, but I hope this page is helpful and that opening PDF files in Adobe solves the problem:

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch
to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Julie Mclean <julie.mclean@...>
 

How do I do that? Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Reading PDF with Jaws

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch
to open in Adobe only.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Julie Mclean
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


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Using thunderbird with jfw 17

Mark Furness
 

Hi,
I just installed Mozilla Thunderbird 38 on my win 10 machine.

Does anybody have any tips for using it? For example, I can’t seem to get to my in box for the account I have configured to read mail..

Thanks!
Mark


Re: Reading PDF with Jaws

Adrian Spratt
 

Are you opening these PDF files in IE or Adobe? If in IE, you might switch to open in Adobe only.

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Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Julie Mclean
Subject: Reading PDF with Jaws

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

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Re: turning off virtual ribbons

judith bron
 

Bingo! Thanks, JB

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 10:43 AM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: turning off virtual ribbons

You go into JAWS Verbosity, Insert V. Arrow down until you will find Virtual
Ribbon on or off. Check it to where you want it by hitting Spacebar then
Escape.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Subject: turning off virtual ribbons

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Reading PDF with Jaws

Julie Mclean <julie.mclean@...>
 

I periodically have problems reading PDFs. I receive message that says it
needs to search IE for a fix. . and then it comes back saying that a
resolution could not be found. I know at one time I had to update the file
associations so that it used Adobe to access PDFs. That still seems to be in
place. Does anyone have this same problem or know of a resolution?

I know when the title bar states the document is empty I have to open it
using the Freedom Import Printer in OPenBook . So, this is a different
problem.

Thanks for any help.


Re: turning off virtual ribbons

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You go into JAWS Verbosity, Insert V. Arrow down until you will find
Virtual Ribbon on or off. Check it to where you want it by hitting
Spacebar then Escape.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Jfw
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Subject: turning off virtual ribbons

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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I agree that it seems more beneficial to do the MS way for the ribbons.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:37 AM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Carolyn, FS did a neat tutorial on the Office ribbon a while back. The
titles at the top really tell it all. Using Office ribbon allows you to
navigate through the various commands, or go straight to them with the
known shortcut keys, whereas turning on Virtual Ribbon disables the
shortcuts you already know. I decided it was easier to learn the Ms way
of doing things.

Ted
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

I think that if someone could sort of break the ribbon code, that it
would make it easier for a lot of us, especially those of us who have
good memory recall most of the time. I know there has to be a sort of
pattern, just not on to it yet. It is amazing to me that with the market
going to the clickers that it is all available on the keyboard, or most
of it anyway.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:17 PM
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Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Well, I see a lot of advantages using the virtual ribbons, especially
when we are trying to teach someone how to use office with jaws. If we
say to a blind person that is not familiar with MS Excel, press tab
repeatedly until you hear "Calculate Sheet Button It doesn't make any
sense at all, they are not understanding where is it, they are not
understanding why this item is there, just they are understanding that
calculate formula button is something that is there, and that they need
to press tab many times until they hear calculate formula button.
Now, it is very time consuming, and it reduces efficiency .
Of course, we can remember the keystrokes, but how many keystrokes do we
need to remember then?
Isn't it better that we have an idea about where something is, and we
get there with keystrokes, and just with up or down arrow we find what we
need?
It is time consuming, but a lot less than pressing tab many times.
Moreover, if we are reading a manual, the manuals are created for sighted
people, they are going to say, go to clipboard and click on copy format,
the manuals are not going to say press tab 16 times and press enter on
copy format.
I am not saying that virtual ribbons are great, because they are not that
great, but it is important to understand the structure of the ribbons,
and it would be good that we are allow to use keystrokes when we are
using the virtual ribbons, it will improve our efficiency a lot.
And efficiency is something that can give us a job, or not.



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Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:05 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For
anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with
JAWS
key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
key+"access
keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the
default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then
jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without
turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all
the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I
am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with
you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I
may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Londa Peterson
 

In the virtual ribbons, you can use first letter navigationh instead. The
ribbon keystrokes don't work with the virtual ribbons on. If there is more
than one thing that starts with the same letter, just navigate to the item
you want and then press enter. Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales; TechTalk@groups.io; blindtech@groups.io
Subject: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the keystrokes
associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the ribbons, with
the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very easy to get lost
navigating with the tab key only. But with the virtual ribbons on, the
keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I don't know what is worse, if the
virtual ribbons on or off. But if I need to get to a place in the ribbon, I
have no way to learn the keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons
and pressing tab many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the logic
structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons is
very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons, but the
ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be so efficient
in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through the
virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the structure
of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each item on the
ribbons?

Thanks



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Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Carolyn, FS did a neat tutorial on the Office ribbon a while back. The titles at the top really tell it all. Using Office ribbon allows you to navigate through the various commands, or go straight to them with the known shortcut keys, whereas turning on Virtual Ribbon disables the shortcuts you already know. I decided it was easier to learn the Ms way of doing things.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:54 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

I think that if someone could sort of break the ribbon code, that it would make it easier for a lot of us, especially those of us who have good memory recall most of the time. I know there has to be a sort of pattern, just not on to it yet. It is amazing to me that with the market going to the clickers that it is all available on the keyboard, or most of it anyway.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Well, I see a lot of advantages using the virtual ribbons, especially when we are trying to teach someone how to use office with jaws. If we say to a blind person that is not familiar with MS Excel, press tab repeatedly until you hear "Calculate Sheet Button It doesn't make any sense at all, they are not understanding where is it, they are not understanding why this item is there, just they are understanding that calculate formula button is something that is there, and that they need to press tab many times until they hear calculate formula button.
Now, it is very time consuming, and it reduces efficiency .
Of course, we can remember the keystrokes, but how many keystrokes do we need to remember then?
Isn't it better that we have an idea about where something is, and we get there with keystrokes, and just with up or down arrow we find what we need?
It is time consuming, but a lot less than pressing tab many times.
Moreover, if we are reading a manual, the manuals are created for sighted people, they are going to say, go to clipboard and click on copy format, the manuals are not going to say press tab 16 times and press enter on copy format.
I am not saying that virtual ribbons are great, because they are not that great, but it is important to understand the structure of the ribbons, and it would be good that we are allow to use keystrokes when we are using the virtual ribbons, it will improve our efficiency a lot.
And efficiency is something that can give us a job, or not.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 5:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Do you keep it on all? That is where mine is set.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Kimber,

I never understood that feature before, so thanks for mentioning it. For anyone interested, it's in the JAWS context menu, which I get to with JAWS
key+j. Press enter on "options" and again on "basics," and tab to
key+"access
keys." Arrow up or down through four options. I believe "all" is the default, only because I never tinkered with this setting and "all"
was selected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 2:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: keystrokes vs virtual ribbons

Hi Pablo,

If you set your jaws announcements to speak access keys (I think?), then jaws will tell you the keystrokes as you tab through the ribbons without turning on virtual ribbons. I have an Excel spreadsheet that lists all the various ribbon commands and associated shortcuts/keystrokes. Yes, I am a little type A that way. <g> I'd be glad to share this document with you if you'd like. I don't use Excel enough to have a similar list, but I may get around to making one up one of these days.

Kimber

On 10/10/15, Pablo Morales via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Using the virtual ribbon, there is a way to know what are the
keystrokes associated with each item in the ribbons?

Use the ribbons helps a lot to understand the structure of the
ribbons, with the virtual ribbon off, is time consuming and is very
easy to get lost navigating with the tab key only. But with the
virtual ribbons on, the keystrokes doesn't work, and sometimes I
don't know what is worse, if the virtual ribbons on or off. But if I
need to get to a place in the ribbon, I have no way to learn the
keystrokes, only deactivating the virtual ribbons and pressing tab
many many times, and probably getting lost.

So I see both ways very inconvenient.

Is there a way to get the keystrokes and at the same time keeping the
logic structure of the ribbons,?

I am trying to teach people to use MS word, and excel, but the ribbons
is very hard to make them understand the structure of each ribbons,
but the ribbon as unique tool using these programs is not going to be
so efficient in the future either.



So there is a way to get the keystrokes when we are navigating through
the virtual ribbons, and like this once we know where and what is the
structure of the ribbons, just use the keystrokes associated with each
item on the ribbons?

Thanks



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