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Re: Visual studio with jaws

Aqil Sajjad <aqilsajjad@...>
 

Hi Paul:

Thanks for the detailed response. I am indeed using the console. But part of the problem is that I don't know if I am not seeing an output because there is an accessibility issue or if there is something wrong with the way I am using the cout command. In recent years, they have changed the way the iostream header is included. Is there some other compiler that is more accessible than visual studio?

Aqil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Martz via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Paul Martz" <skewmatrix@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: Visual studio with jaws


It sounds like you are writing a program in C or C++ and I'm guessing it is
what Visual Studio calls a "console application". If that assumption is
correct, then when you run the program, it opens a console window and
displays all text output in that window. When the program exits, the console
window says "press enter to close the window" or something like that. Before
you press enter to close the window, you should be able to read the text in
the same way as you would with any Windows command shell.

In my experience, Windows command shells are kind of difficult to use with
JAWS. If the amount of text output is small (that is, it all fits in the
console window without scrolling), then you might be able to read it by
virtualizing the window (INSERT + ALT + W). This displays ONLY the text
visible in the command shell, so anything that has scrolled off the top will
not show up in the virtual viewer.

If your application is NOT a console application (that is, it's some kind of
GUI application), then I'm not sure where standard output goes. There might
be a compile option to open a command shell, in which case it would be
displayed there, just like a console application. But I really don't know.

If I remember correctly, there are some JAWS scripts that make Visual Studio
easier to use (hotkeys to examine the value of variables under the debugger
and that sort of thing).

You might consider joining the program-l mailing list, which is for blind
software developers. You might get more help in that list. For information
about that list, send email to program-l-request@freelists.org with the
subject "faq" and you should get a reply with info about subscribing, etc.

I hope this helps.
-Paul



-----Original Message-----

I just installed visual studio 2010 and am using it with Jaws. When I run
the
program, I get some lines telling me that the program has successfully
run,
but I don't see the text I designed the program to print on the screen. I
am
not sure if this is an issue of properly accessing the output window with
jaws or if it is an issue with how I am using the cout and iostream
commands. Should the text come out in the same wwindow as the output
that gives the errors and other such stuff about how the program ran? Is
there anyone here who is familiar with the use of visual studio with jaws
and can help?
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Re: Visual studio with jaws

Soronel Haetir
 

My experience is that jaws works very well with the console. You do
need to go into jaws cursor mode rather than PC, but other than that
reviewing what is in the console is easy.

One thing to note about Paul's description of how VS runs console
programs, the hit enter to continue bit is only displayed if the
program is _not_ run in the debugger. If you just use the debugger but
don't have a breakpoint then the program will run and then exit and
the console will go away.

To deal with that you can either add a breakpoint at the end of main
or call system("pause") yourself before returning from main.

On 8/20/15, Paul Martz via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
It sounds like you are writing a program in C or C++ and I'm guessing it is
what Visual Studio calls a "console application". If that assumption is
correct, then when you run the program, it opens a console window and
displays all text output in that window. When the program exits, the
console
window says "press enter to close the window" or something like that.
Before
you press enter to close the window, you should be able to read the text in
the same way as you would with any Windows command shell.

In my experience, Windows command shells are kind of difficult to use with
JAWS. If the amount of text output is small (that is, it all fits in the
console window without scrolling), then you might be able to read it by
virtualizing the window (INSERT + ALT + W). This displays ONLY the text
visible in the command shell, so anything that has scrolled off the top
will
not show up in the virtual viewer.

If your application is NOT a console application (that is, it's some kind
of
GUI application), then I'm not sure where standard output goes. There might
be a compile option to open a command shell, in which case it would be
displayed there, just like a console application. But I really don't know.

If I remember correctly, there are some JAWS scripts that make Visual
Studio
easier to use (hotkeys to examine the value of variables under the debugger
and that sort of thing).

You might consider joining the program-l mailing list, which is for blind
software developers. You might get more help in that list. For information
about that list, send email to program-l-request@freelists.org with the
subject "faq" and you should get a reply with info about subscribing, etc.

I hope this helps.
-Paul



-----Original Message-----

I just installed visual studio 2010 and am using it with Jaws. When I run
the
program, I get some lines telling me that the program has successfully
run,
but I don't see the text I designed the program to print on the screen. I
am
not sure if this is an issue of properly accessing the output window with
jaws or if it is an issue with how I am using the cout and iostream
commands. Should the text come out in the same wwindow as the output
that gives the errors and other such stuff about how the program ran? Is
there anyone here who is familiar with the use of visual studio with jaws
and can help?
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Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Kane Brolin
 

As a public service, I want to let everyone know that games for the
future 2016 Super Bowl Champion Kansas City Chiefs are streamed live
on KCFX-FM (101TheFox): http://www.101thefox.net/.

Regards,

-Kane


Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

The consequences are that when you remove the drive, you may or may not get a "Delayed Write Failure Notice. This means that the computer failed to write everything to the drive which you sent to it. Windows does not always perform tasks immediately. This is the function of Safely Remove Hardware. It tells Windows
"OK, I am going to remove this hardware, so you should finish any remaining tasks which are specified for that drive."

Failing to do this can have a couple of consequences. First, it can corrupt the entire drive, so that none of the files are visible. Only gibberish symbols will show up in the file list.

The second consequence is that any of the files destined for that drive may not be copied, or may be truncated or shortened because the entire file has not been copied.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McBride via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: Safely Remove Hardware question


Just curious. What are the possible consequences for unplugging an external
hard drive, or flash drive, from your desktop without using the safely
remove hardware function?

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; Jaws users list
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in your
System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back into your
System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for "hard" drives, not
flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter
within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject
Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for
Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware"
option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later
operating systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to
be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option,
if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

If you want a list F11 is the way to go.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Yes, That is one way of finding items in the System Tray. But if you want the items to come up as a list, the way links do in Internet Explorer or Firefox when you use JawsKey plus F7, then you must press JawsKey plus F11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: Safely Remove Hardware question


I press Windows Key and the letter B and use my right arrow to find the
safely remove hardware device and press enter. JAWS says you can
safely remove device from computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; Jaws
users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in
your System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back
into your System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for
"hard" drives, not flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter
within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject
Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for
Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually
have gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external
hard drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware"
option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later
operating systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used
to be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option,
if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Yes, That is one way of finding items in the System Tray. But if you want the items to come up as a list, the way links do in Internet Explorer or Firefox when you use JawsKey plus F7, then you must press JawsKey plus F11.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Mcginnis, Barbara" <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:23 AM
Subject: RE: Safely Remove Hardware question


I press Windows Key and the letter B and use my right arrow to find the safely remove hardware device and press enter. JAWS says you can safely remove device from computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; Jaws users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in your System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back into your System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for "hard" drives, not flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware"
option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later
operating systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option,
if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: data graphing ideas?

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

I'll start by saying I don't know of any off-the-shelf graphing solutions
for visually impaired users. So everything that follows is sort of "what if"
hypothetical stuff, just thinking out loud.

Presenting data to blind and visually impaired users seems like a mostly
uninvestigated area, wide open for new research. There is an annual academic
conference called IEEE Vis: http://ieeevis.org/. Historically, their focus
is to present new research in different ways to visualize data. As far as I
know, they have never bitten off the challenge of presenting data in
non-visual ways. But if you have any pull in the academic community, perhaps
you could get some grad students to research ways to display data
non-visually, with the end-goal of getting their research published through
this conference.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I could imagine a bar chart with items
left-to-right (along the x axis) and values along the y axis. We could use
JAWS to read the value for each item, but instead of just reading numbers,
modulate the JAWS speech pitch in accordance with the value: larger values
would be read with a higher pitch, smaller values with a lower pitch. So,
instead of just hearing a bunch of numbers, you'd hear pitch changes with
each number that would allow the user to immediately place the value
relative to other values. The pitch changes would give you a "picture" of
the values relative to each other.

I'm sure that's a pretty naive approach, but as far as I know, no one has
tried it yet. It might be an interesting challenge for the JAWS scripting
language.
-Paul


Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Daniel McBride
 

Just curious. What are the possible consequences for unplugging an external
hard drive, or flash drive, from your desktop without using the safely
remove hardware function?

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; Jaws users list
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in your
System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back into your
System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for "hard" drives, not
flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter
within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject
Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for
Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware"
option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later
operating systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to
be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option,
if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: Visual studio with jaws

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

It sounds like you are writing a program in C or C++ and I'm guessing it is
what Visual Studio calls a "console application". If that assumption is
correct, then when you run the program, it opens a console window and
displays all text output in that window. When the program exits, the console
window says "press enter to close the window" or something like that. Before
you press enter to close the window, you should be able to read the text in
the same way as you would with any Windows command shell.

In my experience, Windows command shells are kind of difficult to use with
JAWS. If the amount of text output is small (that is, it all fits in the
console window without scrolling), then you might be able to read it by
virtualizing the window (INSERT + ALT + W). This displays ONLY the text
visible in the command shell, so anything that has scrolled off the top will
not show up in the virtual viewer.

If your application is NOT a console application (that is, it's some kind of
GUI application), then I'm not sure where standard output goes. There might
be a compile option to open a command shell, in which case it would be
displayed there, just like a console application. But I really don't know.

If I remember correctly, there are some JAWS scripts that make Visual Studio
easier to use (hotkeys to examine the value of variables under the debugger
and that sort of thing).

You might consider joining the program-l mailing list, which is for blind
software developers. You might get more help in that list. For information
about that list, send email to program-l-request@freelists.org with the
subject "faq" and you should get a reply with info about subscribing, etc.

I hope this helps.
-Paul

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I just installed visual studio 2010 and am using it with Jaws. When I run
the
program, I get some lines telling me that the program has successfully
run,
but I don't see the text I designed the program to print on the screen. I
am
not sure if this is an issue of properly accessing the output window with
jaws or if it is an issue with how I am using the cout and iostream
commands. Should the text come out in the same wwindow as the output
that gives the errors and other such stuff about how the program ran? Is
there anyone here who is familiar with the use of visual studio with jaws
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Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Daniel McBride
 

Virtual Knight:

Thank you for these links. Your Steelers play Sunday at noon, and I am
looking forward to accessing the game through this link. Below is a
statement from freefootballradio.com.

"If there is a game that you would like to listen to just click on the team.
You will be taken to a list of radio stations that are part of that teams
radio network that have internet broadcast capability. Just click a station
and link up. You may have to try linking to many different stations from
both sides of a match up before you find a station that's streaming. If
there are no stations streaming, thank the conglomerate that is the NFL, you
will have to pay to listen. Sorry."

The Cowboys are broadcast on 105.3 The Fan. The Fan has live streaming,
however, the Listen Live button is disabled for 3 hours prior to kickoff,
during the game and for 3 hours after the game.

However, your post prompted me to call The Fan today. I spoke with the
program director and he advised me that the Cowboys games will be live
stream accessible this year, beginning with the last preseason game. If this
was to trend across the league, perhaps we will have free access to live
broadcasts of all games in the future.

Daniel

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:57 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: virtualknight
Subject: Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

here is a link to listen to the steelers.
http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/audio/Steelers_Nation_Radio/f0ac5a66
-a351-4918-97df-493ca91d9267

here is a link to find other stations for NFl teams.

http://freefootballradio.com/schedule.html

On 8/20/2015 12:59 AM, Rick Miller via Jfw wrote:
How do you access the audio broadcast of an NFL team by going to the
team's web site? I have tried to access the audio broadcast of the
Steelers, but don't know how to do it. And when you do access audio
from the team's web site, can you hear archived broadcasts?

Rick Miller

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McBride via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Thank you for that correction Michal. For mediums other than Direct
TV, NFL access is limited to the NFL Channel and NFL Red Zone.

-----Original Message-----
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Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

NFL Sunday Ticket is available to DirecTV customers only; DirecTV has
had exclusive rights for years.

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McBride via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:57 PM
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Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Tim:

The NFL is a government protected monopoly. There is no other legal
alternative to accessing the games.

Of course, if you have cable, satellite dish or AT&T Uverse, you can
subscribe to the NFL Ticket.

Daniel

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Hi list,

I recently called NFL.com and was told they are still working on
getting some screen reader bugs out of their new system. What used to
cost $39.95 is now $99.95, and they cannot say for sure if I could
access the audio feed. Does anyone out there have any ideas on
accessible alternatives for this audio content?

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Re: How to Get an "Applications Key" on a Lenovo Laptop?

Soronel Haetir
 

Also, if the keyboard has some key you aren't going to use, you can
employ SharpKeys (https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/) to remap that other
key.

I have done that with my laptop's print screen key, print screen is
simply something I don't need. It's a little annoying having it in
such a different spot than the normal applications key but I find it
less annoying than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:
Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the right
click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Often the right click and applications menus are the same. Not
always, but often.
eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no "Applications Key" as is found on a standard
keyboard. The Applications Key functions like a right mouse click. So,
how
does someone do this without an Applications Key? Or, perhaps better,
how
can someone make a key on the Lenovo act like the Applications Key?



Thanks,

Richard

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Re: How to Get an "Applications Key" on a Lenovo Laptop?

Soronel Haetir
 

Right click though is WHEREVER THE mouse happens to be. The
application menu is triggered where the keyboard is focused.

You could of course route the jaws to PC cursor before doing the right
click but that is even more cumbersome than shift+f10.

On 8/20/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Often the right click and applications menus are the same. Not
always, but often.
eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no "Applications Key" as is found on a standard
keyboard. The Applications Key functions like a right mouse click. So,
how
does someone do this without an Applications Key? Or, perhaps better, how
can someone make a key on the Lenovo act like the Applications Key?



Thanks,

Richard

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Re: Visual studio with jaws

Soronel Haetir
 

If you are using the free edition I am pretty sure it's not going to
work all that well, just a limitation of the product.

I believe 2012 and 2013 are much better in that regard but can't speak
from personal experience as I use Pro (which works very well in my
experience).

On 8/19/15, Aqil Sajjad via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I just installed visual studio 2010 and am using it with Jaws. When I run
the program, I get some lines telling me that the program has successfully
run, but I don't see the text I designed the program to print on the screen.
I am not sure if this is an issue of properly accessing the output window
with jaws or if it is an issue with how I am using the cout and iostream
commands. Should the text come out in the same wwindow as the output that
gives the errors and other such stuff about how the program ran? Is there
anyone here who is familiar with the use of visual studio with jaws and can
help?
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Mcginnis, Barbara
 

I press Windows Key and the letter B and use my right arrow to find the safely remove hardware device and press enter. JAWS says you can safely remove device from computer.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill White via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; Jaws users list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in your System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back into your System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for "hard" drives, not flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware"
option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later
operating systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option,
if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



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Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

dennis
 

this is awsome thanks.

On 8/20/2015 8:56 AM, virtualknight via Jfw wrote:
here is a link to listen to the steelers.
http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/audio/Steelers_Nation_Radio/f0ac5a66-a351-4918-97df-493ca91d9267

here is a link to find other stations for NFl teams.

http://freefootballradio.com/schedule.html

On 8/20/2015 12:59 AM, Rick Miller via Jfw wrote:
How do you access the audio broadcast of an NFL team by going to the team's
web site? I have tried to access the audio broadcast of the Steelers, but
don't know how to do it. And when you do access audio from the team's web
site, can you hear archived broadcasts?

Rick Miller

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Thank you for that correction Michal. For mediums other than Direct TV, NFL
access is limited to the NFL Channel and NFL Red Zone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

NFL Sunday Ticket is available to DirecTV customers only; DirecTV has had
exclusive rights for years.

-----Original Message-----
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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Tim:

The NFL is a government protected monopoly. There is no other legal
alternative to accessing the games.

Of course, if you have cable, satellite dish or AT&T Uverse, you can
subscribe to the NFL Ticket.

Daniel

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Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Hi list,

I recently called NFL.com and was told they are still working on getting
some screen reader bugs out of their new system. What used to cost $39.95
is now $99.95, and they cannot say for sure if I could access the audio
feed. Does anyone out there have any ideas on accessible alternatives for
this audio content?

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Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. In case the Safely Remove Hardware option doesn't show up in your System Tray, Here's how to get the Safely Remove Hardware back into your System Tray. As someone else said, this is only good for "hard" drives, not flash drives.

If you want to remove a flash drive, find the appropriate drive letter within Computer, press Applications Key, and Up or Down Arrow to Eject Drive, and press Enter.

To always show all icons in the system tray


1. Open the Start menu with the Windows key



2. Press escape followed by Alt Enter.



3. Tab to the Notification / Customize button and press Enter.



4. Check the checkbox for always turn on all icons and press Enter.



5. Tab to Okay and press Enter.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware" option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later operating
systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option, if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



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Re: How to Get an "Applications Key" on a Lenovo Laptop?

northstar1950@...
 

try using shift plus f10, that should work.


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My Lenovo L440 laptop has no "Applications Key" as is found on a standard
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Re: How to Get an "Applications Key" on a Lenovo Laptop?

Ann Byrne
 

Often the right click and applications menus are the same. Not always, but often.
eAt 08:33 AM 8/20/2015, you wrote:

Hi!



My Lenovo L440 laptop has no "Applications Key" as is found on a standard
keyboard. The Applications Key functions like a right mouse click. So, how
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can someone make a key on the Lenovo act like the Applications Key?



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Re: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

virtualknight <virtualknight@...>
 

On 8/20/2015 12:59 AM, Rick Miller via Jfw wrote:
How do you access the audio broadcast of an NFL team by going to the team's
web site? I have tried to access the audio broadcast of the Steelers, but
don't know how to do it. And when you do access audio from the team's web
site, can you hear archived broadcasts?

Rick Miller

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:18 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Thank you for that correction Michal. For mediums other than Direct TV, NFL
access is limited to the NFL Channel and NFL Red Zone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

NFL Sunday Ticket is available to DirecTV customers only; DirecTV has had
exclusive rights for years.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 4:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Daniel McBride <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Tim:

The NFL is a government protected monopoly. There is no other legal
alternative to accessing the games.

Of course, if you have cable, satellite dish or AT&T Uverse, you can
subscribe to the NFL Ticket.

Daniel

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Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 3:24 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Accessible way of listening to NFL games?

Hi list,

I recently called NFL.com and was told they are still working on getting
some screen reader bugs out of their new system. What used to cost $39.95
is now $99.95, and they cannot say for sure if I could access the audio
feed. Does anyone out there have any ideas on accessible alternatives for
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Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Tom Behler
 

Adrian:

The system tray shows up on my machine.

I just could never figure out how to invoke the safely remove option.

Between your instructions, and those I have gotten from others, I think I
should be ok.

Thank you!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:02 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Safely Remove Hardware question

I got the impression that Tom's system tray isn't showing the "safely
remove" option. If that's the case, Tom, you might post again with that
specific question. Several sets of instructions have been posted in the past
on how to get JAWS to reveal it.

Dave, I've heard much the same thing. But, ever nervous about corrupting
files, I do the following:

Close the window showing the drive of the SD card, etc., that I want to
remove. (This is consistent with your closing all applications using that
card, disc, etc.)

Go to system tray with JAWS key+F11.

Press s until "system tray" is verbalized. On my system (Win7, 64-bit),
that's just one press.

Press enter, then arrow down until the name of the item to be removed is
spoken. Press enter again.

Then JAWS verbalizes something like "Safe to remove" and I feel comfortable
ejecting the item.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Safely Remove Hardware question

Tom,

I've only used it once, and found it irritating and useless. When I copy or
paste to a USB Thumb drive, I just wait until I'm able to navigate through
the list of files on that drive, and then I know I can pull it out.

If you're using an external disc or hard drive, you might want to make sure
that there are no programs running that are accessing the drive before
disconnecting -- that might be the one and only time I'd consider using the
feature. Use JAWS+F11 to get to the system tray, arrow to "safe to remove"
item and press enter.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "Jaws users list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>; "'The Jaws for
Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 07:35 PM
Subject: Safely Remove Hardware question


Hello, everyone.



I am sure this may seem pretty elementary to some, but I actually have
gotten varying opinions on the need to use the "safely remove hardware"
option for USB devices such as USB thumb drives, and USB external hard
drives.



So, I have two questions:



1. Is it still necessary to invoke the "safely remove hardware" option
when using any of these USB devices? I have heard that in later operating
systems like Windows 7, this is not as necessary as it used to be.

And



2. How does one easily get to the "safely remove hardware" option, if
it would be a good idea for me to use it?

I am using Windows 7 and Jaws 16 here.



Thank you!



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan





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