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Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

Stephanie Switzer
 

I'm glad. That's why I wrote it. :)

On 8/23/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Well, your message certainly did help me! I believe that I was able to
straighten out my preferences - finally. Of course, only time will tell.

Jim H

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Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

I agree. However, I'm kind of wondering who will read that. Because the
same
thing is listed in the monthly reminder that we all get on the first of the
month.

Sent from my iPhone

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Thank you. I am sure that will save more hair from being pulled out! By
this time however, I would bet that some listers have simply "blocked"
all
JAWS list serve messages. This is rather extreme; but, it does work!

Jim H


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Subject: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

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Re: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Yes, outlook 2013.


Kimsan Song
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Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

Do you have Outlook?

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

Hold on, I'm confused?

So, do not open the email and just CTRL c, and CTRL V in the contacts folder
after creating a new contact form that is?
Before I opened up ann's email I did CTRL C and this is what I got...
From Subject Received Size Categories
Ann Byrne via Jfw RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to
contacts? 8:58 PM 14 KB. However, when I shift-tab to the to field
all I see is The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com.



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Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:44 PM
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Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

It works! Smooth as silk. I don't even have to open the email, or press
control-n for new contact. Awesome!
At 08:23 PM 8/21/2015, you wrote:
OK, Keith. If I hit escape, I'm outside your message. So,
right there, I hit Control C; then Control 3 (to get to Contacts); then
Control V to paste in the new address. I think that in a list like
this, it is better to do it the old way to Alt 1 to the To field, copy
it, start a new e-mail just to have a place to get out the < and > and
list
stuff, just get yours.
But if you get an individual one, or you can even try with mine to
Escape, then hit Control C, then Control 3, then Control V. Then you'll
have the e-mail address. I did it with yours, and then deleted it;
somehow or other I deleted it twice, but it's out. Anyway, that is one
way that it can be done in Outlook 2013.

The good thing about the older harder way, I think, is a little more
control of the data.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 8:17 PM
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Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

What do you mean by "going outside your message"? Thanks, Keith

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Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 7:07 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

Ann, I did as I was instructed yesterday - went outside your message,
hit Control C for copy, then Control 3 for Contacts, then Control V for
paste.
Your address is in my contacts, which I will delete, but my instructor
told me to practice what he taught, so I did that one. It definitely
works in Outlook 13 and is so easy! I hope it will work for you.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

I tried everything. would you believe it just doesn't show up in my
Office
2010 Professional? But I do know how to shift-tab to the from field
and copy and paste. (LOL) At 10:02 PM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Ann,

Just to be sure, did you use the applications key? The "add to sender"
option doesn't appear in the right-click menu. It's one of those
cases when they aren't identical.

Also, did you try Paul's later suggestion of going to the "From" field?

That it's in the applications/context list means it's an MS control,
not a JAWS command.

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Byrne via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:09 PM
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Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

Add to sender isn't an option on my computer. Rats!
At 04:56 PM 8/20/2015, you wrote:
Paul,

You can go right into the "To" field by holding down the alt key
and pressing 3 (number row above the letters) twice quickly. Each
of the other numbers 1 through 6 take you into one or other field
(1 for "from," etc.).

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Martz via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 5:49 PM
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Cc: Paul Martz
Subject: RE: keystroke in outlook 2010 to add sender to contacts?

I do SHIFT + TAB back to the From field. Once I get there, I hit
the application menu and select the "add sender to outlook contacts"
option.
It
works, but it'd be nice if there was a better way.

I imagine this would make a nice beginning JAWS script project. If
I put this together, I'll post about it.
-Paul


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What's the best way in outlook 2010 to add the sender to your
contacts?



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Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

HAMILTON
 

Greatstuff! I have been struggling mightily with the JAWS cursor for some
time. This sounds like just the ticket! Thanks to all the contributors on
the various below messages. The whole package is a tour de force, through
collaborative effort - even if by accident.

Who says that you can't teach new tricks to an old dog!

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:55 PM
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Cc: Mike B. <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Hi Mark,

Yes, you do have a Touch Cursor, follow these notes & it will be explained:
Original Message
From: Londa Peterson
I have found that I can navigate malwarebytes with the touch cursor. This
even works in Windows 7. In fact, I find that the touch cursor works better
than the JAWS cursor most of the time these days. Sometimes I think I even
get access to more content than I ever did with the JAWS cursor. Give it a
try.
Londa

From: Maria Campbell
Touch cursor in Windows 7? Where to find it? How to access it?
Sunny Day
Maria Campbell

From: Londa Peterson
Press shift with the PC cursor command. Press the PC cursor twice to turn it
off. The gestures won't work in Windows 7 of course, but the keyboard
commands will. If you go into JAWS help and search for touch cursor, you
should find a list of the keyboard commands. If you can't find it, I'll post
a copy if necessary.
Londa

From: Dave Carlson
Shift+NumPad Enter will activate touch cursor. Pressing NumPad Enter twice
quickly will return to PC cursor. Haven't experimented yet with it, but it
does come up in Windows 7.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Oops. Should have been NumPad Plus, not NumPad Enter. Sorry.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Here's more information, cut from the JAWS Keyboard Help pages:

Using the Touch Cursor
Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in
Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the
standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new
Touch Cursor enables you to use the ARROW keys on your computer's keyboard,
or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual
objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a
tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and
progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press SHIFT+NUM PAD
PLUS, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout, to
activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other
cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD
PLUS) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain
active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message
"Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice
quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to
improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever
you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically
activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application,
press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where
you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and
then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application
where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

Navigating With the Touch Cursor
To move to the next or previous object on the screen, press RIGHT or LEFT
ARROW. You can also use TAB or SHIFT+TAB.

To move by a specific object type, press UP or DOWN ARROW. By default, the
UP and DOWN ARROWS will move by regions, or by groups if you are on the
Windows 8 Start Screen. To change what object type these commands move by,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to cycle through the available types using the
navigation rotor.

For example, if you want the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move by headings,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN until you hear "headings. Now, pressing UP or
DOWN ARROW will move to the next or previous heading.

Press CTRL+HOME to move to the first object and press CTRL+END to move to
the last object. To announce the current object, press INSERT+UP ARROW. To
perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the
application and speak each object, press INSERT+DOWN ARROW.

As you navigate using the ARROW keys, the system focus does not follow the
Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate through objects without
changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing SPACEBAR
or ENTER on the current object will move focus to that object and perform
the appropriate action. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box,
or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed
around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of
the Touch cursor for sighted users.

To quickly move the Touch Cursor to the object that currently has focus,
press INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS, or CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE if using the laptop
keyboard layout. JAWS will route the Touch Cursor to the currently selected
object and announce it. The Touch Cursor will remain active after performing
this command.

To determine what object types will be announced as you navigate with the
Touch Cursor, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor
Options group, then move to Configure Types. This group lists all available
types that can be navigated to using the Touch Cursor. Use the SPACEBAR to
select or clear a type. Types that are selected are announced while types
that are not selected are ignored.

Note: The Configure Types option only appears in Quick Settings if the Touch
Cursor is currently active when Quick Settings is opened.

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys
While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to
quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links,
form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick
Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual
PC Cursor.

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch
Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support
typing in the main window. For example, the Windows 8 News app lets you type
so you can quickly locate specific stories.

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically
when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press INSERT+V
to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the
Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press
INSERT+Z while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch
Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

The following Navigation Quick Keys are available:

Note: You can add the SHIFT Key to any of these commands to move to the
previous occurrence of that element.

A - Next radio button
B - Next button
C - Next combo box
D - Next document
E - Next edit field
F - Next form field
G - Next image
H - Next heading
I - Next list item
K - Next link
L - Next list
M - Next menu
O - Next tool bar
P - Next pane
Q - Next tab
R - Next region
S - Next occurrence of static text
T - Next table
U - Next group
V - Next tree view
X - Next check box
Z - Next status b

Dave Carlson

From: Londa Peterson
Here's some more from the JAWS help

Touch Cursor SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object CTRL+HOME
Last Object CTRL+END
Say Current Object INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation NUM PAD STAR
Londa

From: Londa Peterson
Actually, I use the keyboard commands for said gestures. I don't have a
touch screen on my Windows 7 computer. It seems to do what the JAWS cursor
used to do. I haven't had a whole lot of luck with the JAWS cursor of late,
and several people have told me that this works. So I decided to give it a
try, and it works quite well.
Londa


From: Londa Peterson
The touch cursor was introduced in JAWS 15 in order to allow JAWS to work
with modern apps. In Windows 8 and above you can use the touch screen with
gestures or keyboard commands that simulate the gestures. In Windows 7 you
can't use the screen gestures even if you happen to have a touch screen, but
you can use the keyboard commands. They've gotten me out of many a jam.
Londa

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Furness via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?


I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen?

Mark
On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much
success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes
and
such.

Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try.

Mark


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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will
not read the screen. Doing jaws cursor or invisible cursor makes no
differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to.
Never
had this problem in windows7. Is this just a new thing in windows10 or
just
a firefox problem?

Mark
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Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

HAMILTON
 

Well, your message certainly did help me! I believe that I was able to
straighten out my preferences - finally. Of course, only time will tell.

Jim H

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Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

I agree. However, I'm kind of wondering who will read that. Because the same
thing is listed in the monthly reminder that we all get on the first of the
month.

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

Thank you. I am sure that will save more hair from being pulled out! By
this time however, I would bet that some listers have simply "blocked" all
JAWS list serve messages. This is rather extreme; but, it does work!

Jim H


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Switzer via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:07 AM
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Subject: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

Hello everyone!
I'm not posting this as admin, or to call out anyone in particular. I
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Re: Touch Cursor Keystrokes, was jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

What is the touch cursor for?

Best from,

Carolyn

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Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Touch Cursor Keystrokes, was jaws not reading screens is it
just me?

Hi Mark,

Here are the Touch Cursor keystrokes:
table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end


Take Care.
Mike
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Take care.
Mike
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From: Mark Furness via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?


I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen?

Mark
On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much
success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes
and
such.

Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try.

Mark


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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will
not read the screen. Doing jaws cursor or invisible cursor makes no
differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to.
Never
had this problem in windows7. Is this just a new thing in windows10 or
just
a firefox problem?

Mark
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Re: Touch Cursor Keystrokes, was jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Mark,

Here are the Touch Cursor keystrokes:
table with 2 columns and 13 rows
Touch Cursor
SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object
RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object
LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type
DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type
UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types
PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object
CTRL+HOME
Last Object
CTRL+END
Say Current Object
INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor
INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object
INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review
NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation
NUM PAD STAR
table end


Take Care.
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Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
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Cc: Mark Furness
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?


I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen?

Mark
On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much
success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes
and
such.

Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try.

Mark


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Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will
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differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to.
Never
had this problem in windows7. Is this just a new thing in windows10 or
just
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Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

Stephanie Switzer
 

I agree. However, I'm kind of wondering who will read that. Because the same thing is listed in the monthly reminder that we all get on the first of the month.

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Thank you. I am sure that will save more hair from being pulled out! By
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JAWS list serve messages. This is rather extreme; but, it does work!

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Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Mark,

Yes, you do have a Touch Cursor, follow these notes & it will be explained:
Original Message
From: Londa Peterson
I have found that I can navigate malwarebytes with the touch cursor. This
even works in Windows 7. In fact, I find that the touch cursor works better
than the JAWS cursor most of the time these days. Sometimes I think I even
get access to more content than I ever did with the JAWS cursor. Give it a
try.
Londa

From: Maria Campbell
Touch cursor in Windows 7? Where to find it? How to access it?
Sunny Day
Maria Campbell

From: Londa Peterson
Press shift with the PC cursor command. Press the PC cursor twice to turn it
off. The gestures won't work in Windows 7 of course, but the keyboard
commands will. If you go into JAWS help and search for touch cursor, you
should find a list of the keyboard commands. If you can't find it, I'll post
a copy if necessary.
Londa

From: Dave Carlson
Shift+NumPad Enter will activate touch cursor. Pressing NumPad Enter twice
quickly will return to PC cursor. Haven't experimented yet with it, but it
does come up in Windows 7.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Oops. Should have been NumPad Plus, not NumPad Enter. Sorry.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Here's more information, cut from the JAWS Keyboard Help pages:

Using the Touch Cursor
Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in
Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the
standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new
Touch Cursor enables you to use the ARROW keys on your computer's keyboard,
or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual
objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a
tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and
progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press SHIFT+NUM PAD
PLUS, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout, to
activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other
cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD
PLUS) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain
active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message
"Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice
quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to
improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever
you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically
activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application,
press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where
you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and
then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application
where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

Navigating With the Touch Cursor
To move to the next or previous object on the screen, press RIGHT or LEFT
ARROW. You can also use TAB or SHIFT+TAB.

To move by a specific object type, press UP or DOWN ARROW. By default, the
UP and DOWN ARROWS will move by regions, or by groups if you are on the
Windows 8 Start Screen. To change what object type these commands move by,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to cycle through the available types using the
navigation rotor.

For example, if you want the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move by headings,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN until you hear "headings. Now, pressing UP or
DOWN ARROW will move to the next or previous heading.

Press CTRL+HOME to move to the first object and press CTRL+END to move to
the last object. To announce the current object, press INSERT+UP ARROW. To
perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the
application and speak each object, press INSERT+DOWN ARROW.

As you navigate using the ARROW keys, the system focus does not follow the
Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate through objects without
changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing SPACEBAR
or ENTER on the current object will move focus to that object and perform
the appropriate action. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box,
or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed
around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of
the Touch cursor for sighted users.

To quickly move the Touch Cursor to the object that currently has focus,
press INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS, or CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE if using the laptop
keyboard layout. JAWS will route the Touch Cursor to the currently selected
object and announce it. The Touch Cursor will remain active after performing
this command.

To determine what object types will be announced as you navigate with the
Touch Cursor, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor
Options group, then move to Configure Types. This group lists all available
types that can be navigated to using the Touch Cursor. Use the SPACEBAR to
select or clear a type. Types that are selected are announced while types
that are not selected are ignored.

Note: The Configure Types option only appears in Quick Settings if the Touch
Cursor is currently active when Quick Settings is opened.

Touch Cursor Navigation Quick Keys
While the Touch Cursor is active, you can use Navigation Quick Keys to
quickly jump to various types of objects, such as regions, headings, links,
form controls, and so on. These commands are similar to the Navigation Quick
Keys that are used when navigating HTML and PDF documents with the Virtual
PC Cursor.

By default, Touch Navigation Quick Keys are not enabled when the Touch
Cursor is activated. This allows you to fully use applications that support
typing in the main window. For example, the Windows 8 News app lets you type
so you can quickly locate specific stories.

If you would like Touch Navigation Quick keys to be enabled automatically
when the Touch Cursor is activated in a specific application, press INSERT+V
to open Quick Settings while focused in the application, navigate to the
Touch Cursor Options group, and select Touch Quick Keys. You can also press
INSERT+Z while the Touch Cursor is active to temporarily toggle Touch
Navigation Quick Keys on or off.

The following Navigation Quick Keys are available:

Note: You can add the SHIFT Key to any of these commands to move to the
previous occurrence of that element.

A - Next radio button
B - Next button
C - Next combo box
D - Next document
E - Next edit field
F - Next form field
G - Next image
H - Next heading
I - Next list item
K - Next link
L - Next list
M - Next menu
O - Next tool bar
P - Next pane
Q - Next tab
R - Next region
S - Next occurrence of static text
T - Next table
U - Next group
V - Next tree view
X - Next check box
Z - Next status b

Dave Carlson

From: Londa Peterson
Here's some more from the JAWS help

Touch Cursor SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS
Next Object RIGHT ARROW or TAB
Prior Object LEFT ARROW or SHIFT+TAB
Next Object by Type DOWN ARROW
Prior Object by Type UP ARROW
Cycle Through Object Navigation Types PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN
First Object CTRL+HOME
Last Object CTRL+END
Say Current Object INSERT+UP ARROW
Say All with Touch Cursor INSERT+DOWN ARROW
Route Touch Cursor to Focused Object INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS
Text Review NUM PAD SLASH or INSERT+ENTER
Advanced Navigation NUM PAD STAR
Londa

From: Londa Peterson
Actually, I use the keyboard commands for said gestures. I don't have a
touch screen on my Windows 7 computer. It seems to do what the JAWS cursor
used to do. I haven't had a whole lot of luck with the JAWS cursor of late,
and several people have told me that this works. So I decided to give it a
try, and it works quite well.
Londa


From: Londa Peterson
The touch cursor was introduced in JAWS 15 in order to allow JAWS to work
with modern apps. In Windows 8 and above you can use the touch screen with
gestures or keyboard commands that simulate the gestures. In Windows 7 you
can't use the screen gestures even if you happen to have a touch screen, but
you can use the keyboard commands. They've gotten me out of many a jam.
Londa

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Furness via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?


I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen?

Mark
On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much
success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes
and
such.

Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try.

Mark


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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:47 AM
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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will
not read the screen. Doing jaws cursor or invisible cursor makes no
differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to.
Never
had this problem in windows7. Is this just a new thing in windows10 or
just
a firefox problem?

Mark
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mark list boxes

Mark Furness
 

Jaws is so slow in announcing which application it is on, when doing alt tab.. So I asked how I can gain focus in those list boxes.

Thank you for your suggestion/help!

Mark

On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:55 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

You select your desired running application, in Windows 10, the same way you
do/did in Windows 7 and/or Windows 8. That is to say, you use key-combo
Alt+Tab to bring up the running applications switch-to dialog box then,
without releasing the Alt key, tap the Tab key to change application focus.
When you hear the name of your desired application, simply release all of
the keys.

Mark

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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:14 AM
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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: list box

How do you go through a list box?
When I alt tab I hear running applications, how many are in the list, the
name of the focus application, but I do not know how to go through the list
so I can open up the desired program.

Thank you for your help.

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SoronelRe: list box

Mark Furness
 

In my case up and down arrows have done nothing!!!

Thank you for your suggestion!

Mark
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Re: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Mark Furness
 

I do not have a touch cursor. I believe you mean a touch screen?

Mark

On Aug 22, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hello Mark,

I have not yet installed Firefox on my Windows 10 PC but I have had much
success using the Jaws Touch Cursor when attempting to read dialog boxes and
such.

Perhaps you should give the Touch cursor a try.

Mark


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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:47 AM
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Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: jaws not reading screens is it just me?

Running windows10 and jaws 16 most internet reading with firefox jaws will
not read the screen. Doing jaws cursor or invisible cursor makes no
differance.I hear ok at time but can not read what I am saying ok to. Never
had this problem in windows7. Is this just a new thing in windows10 or just
a firefox problem?

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Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

It appears that SHIFT + CONTEXT MENU opens a context menu that contains a
superset of the functionality available from a plain CONTEXT MENU. That is
to say, SHIFT + CONTEXT MENU gives you all the functionality of a plain
CONTEXT MENU, plus some additional stuff.

When I do a SHIFT + F10, I get the same menu contents as if I do a SHIFT +
CONTEXT MENU.

As a result, if you're using SHIFT + F10, you're not missing anything.
You're getting everything that is on a plain CONTEXT MENU, plus you're also
getting the additional functionality that is on a SHIFT + CONTEXT MENU.

I hope that helps.
-Paul

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 6:34 PM
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Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Adrian & Pablo,

The, Shift + Applications key, is called the extended context menu & is
supposed to offer a few more options. Here is the only note I have
regarding this keystroke:

From: Don Marang
I am not aware of any way to add a folder to the Start menu. Individual
files
and programs can be added by locating them in Windows Explorer and
pressing Shift + Application keys and hitting Enter on "Pin to Start
menu".
Holding the Shift key while hitting the Application key adds a few
interesting extra items in the menu.

*Don Marang*
Take care.
Mike
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Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative


Pablo,

I've been confused by this thread. I've never noticed any difference in
menus between the one brought up by the applications key and one
brought up
by shift-applications key. Actually, I hadn't tried until just now, and in
Window Explorer and elsewhere, the menus look identical.

Am I mistaken?

If not, shift-F10 should always function the same as the applications key.

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Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 8:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press
application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application
key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link & invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link & use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the
context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
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Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application
key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone is using a
keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Re: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

HAMILTON
 

Thank you. I am sure that will save more hair from being pulled out! By
this time however, I would bet that some listers have simply "blocked" all
JAWS list serve messages. This is rather extreme; but, it does work!

Jim H

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Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:07 AM
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Cc: Stephanie Switzer <emmanrusty@gmail.com>
Subject: How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

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How to unsubscribe/subscribe.

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Hello everyone!
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Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Dave...
 

Adrian, you are correct. They are the same.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 05:21 PM
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative


Pablo,

I've been confused by this thread. I've never noticed any difference in
menus between the one brought up by the applications key and one brought up
by shift-applications key. Actually, I hadn't tried until just now, and in
Window Explorer and elsewhere, the menus look identical.

Am I mistaken?

If not, shift-F10 should always function the same as the applications key.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 8:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link & invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link & use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Adrian & Pablo,

The, Shift + Applications key, is called the extended context menu & is
supposed to offer a few more options. Here is the only note I have
regarding this keystroke:

From: Don Marang
I am not aware of any way to add a folder to the Start menu. Individual
files and programs can be added by locating them in Windows Explorer and
pressing Shift + Application keys and hitting Enter on "Pin to Start
menu". Holding the Shift key while hitting the Application key adds a
few interesting extra items in the menu.

*Don Marang*
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative


Pablo,

I've been confused by this thread. I've never noticed any difference in
menus between the one brought up by the applications key and one brought up
by shift-applications key. Actually, I hadn't tried until just now, and in
Window Explorer and elsewhere, the menus look identical.

Am I mistaken?

If not, shift-F10 should always function the same as the applications key.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 8:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link & invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link & use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Pablo Morales via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Adrian Spratt
 

Pablo,

I've been confused by this thread. I've never noticed any difference in menus between the one brought up by the applications key and one brought up by shift-applications key. Actually, I hadn't tried until just now, and in Window Explorer and elsewhere, the menus look identical.

Am I mistaken?

If not, shift-F10 should always function the same as the applications key.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 8:02 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link & invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link & use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Pablo Morales via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Pablo Morales
 

Hi Mike,
In windows explorer, if you are focused on a file and you press application
key or shift + f10, the menu is different than if you press shift +
application key. But my question is, if you don't have the application key,
how can you get the same menu as when you press shift + application key?
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: Shift + F10, alternative

Hi Pablo,

Using IE10, if I arrow to a link & invoke either, shift + F10, shift +
application key, or the application key only, I will get 1 list of results
in the context menu, but if I tab to a link & use any of the previous
mentioned keystrokes, I will get a different list of results in the context
menu.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Pablo Morales via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:46 AM
Subject: Shift + F10, alternative


Hi all,
Some laptops, and some Bluetooth keyboards don't have the application key. I
understand that shift + F10 is the same thing as the application key. But
when we press shift + application key, we have different options than when
we press just application key. In the case that someone is using a keyboard
without an application key, what is the
Thankskeystroke to replicate the function of shift application key?



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Re: list box

Ann Byrne
 

If down arrow doesn't work, open the list box with alt+down arrow. then you should be able to use the arrows to move around.

At 03:55 PM 8/22/2015, you wrote:
As for list boxes, you use the up and down arrow keys.

On 8/22/15, Mark via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hello Mark,

You select your desired running application, in Windows 10, the same way
you
do/did in Windows 7 and/or Windows 8. That is to say, you use key-combo
Alt+Tab to bring up the running applications switch-to dialog box then,
without releasing the Alt key, tap the Tab key to change application focus.
When you hear the name of your desired application, simply release all of
the keys.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: list box

How do you go through a list box?
When I alt tab I hear running applications, how many are in the list, the
name of the focus application, but I do not know how to go through the list
so I can open up the desired program.

Thank you for your help.

Mark
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audio query for anyone that can help

Joseph Weakland
 

greetings all laptop users. i have a audio query for anyone who uses a
HP EliteBook 8570p
when i tried to use the audio jack line in it says linein not plugged in
in list of audio devices.
I tried to plug a patch cord into the earphone jack the closest one to me and the mike jack the one just below the right usb port and in either case linein don't change from not plugged in to plugged in why?
if anyone here can help please write me but if not please direct me to someone that can:)
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