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Re: need instructions for getting started in excel

Mario
 

I've been following this thread, and I'd also would like to understand formulas, especially if there's a method to building your own.I think this kind of information is invaluable, especially myself.

On 9/24/2015 9:19 AM, Barbara Hansen via Jfw wrote:
Hi Barbara M

The instructions you sent regarding excel were great! They provided the
basic info I needed to better understand the excel program.

I believe there is also something involved regarding doing formulas in order
for the program to calculate and total numbers. Any help regarding this
would also be appreciated.

I have listened to a web&R training from Freedom Scientific on creating
headers and formula's, but, honestly, the presentation was not very useful
to me. I think there was about 3 sentences throughout the presentation, that
might be helpful to me.Glad I wasn't paying for it.

I would like to communicate with you off list, if that's okay. My email is:
the2skibears@embarqmail.com.

Thanks for your clear explanation of excel.

Barbara Hansen

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Re: Where to get the jaws 17 public beta

Feliciano G
 

I simply googled jaws 17 download

Then navigate by headings after you find the results that you're looking for and you will find the download links.

Regards,Feliciano For tech tips and updates, LIKE www.facebook.com/theblindman12v Follow www.twitter.com/theblindman12v

On Sep 24, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Kimber Gardner via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi All,

Where may I download the jaws 17 public beta? I've searched the FS web
site but couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: need instructions for getting started in excel

Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@...>
 

Hi Barbara M

The instructions you sent regarding excel were great! They provided the
basic info I needed to better understand the excel program.

I believe there is also something involved regarding doing formulas in order
for the program to calculate and total numbers. Any help regarding this
would also be appreciated.

I have listened to a web&R training from Freedom Scientific on creating
headers and formula's, but, honestly, the presentation was not very useful
to me. I think there was about 3 sentences throughout the presentation, that
might be helpful to me.Glad I wasn't paying for it.

I would like to communicate with you off list, if that's okay. My email is:
the2skibears@embarqmail.com.

Thanks for your clear explanation of excel.

Barbara Hansen

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I want to understand more about writing jaws scripts

David Ingram
 

Hi how are you? It seems that you have a lot of knowledge concerning
scripting. The problem that I seem to have is that I think that I know
where the buttons are but how do I make sure that these buttons are labeled
and a script is written so that if for example I press enter or the space
bar that the desired action would happen? I can be reached at
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Re: Where to get the jaws 17 public beta

Marshall Scott
 

Hi Kimber,
There is a link at the bottom of the FS Home page that will take you to the download page. This page has a lot of text but the download links are toward the bottom of this page. It's funny you should ask because I had the same issue yesterday afternoon. I even tried searching for the link and couldn't find it.
Go figure!
Marshall

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Hi All,

Where may I download the jaws 17 public beta? I've searched the FS web
site but couldn't find it.

Thanks,
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Where to get the jaws 17 public beta

Kimber Gardner
 

Hi All,

Where may I download the jaws 17 public beta? I've searched the FS web
site but couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Steve Griffiths
 

Hi Paul,

The following might be more detail than you want, but I wrote some notes on this topic in 2006 when I worked for RNIB. They assume JAWS 6 or 8.

1. Sorting by the Arrange By submenu of the View menu

The items in the Arrange By submenu change according to the type of folder you are in, and the view you have for that folder.

For Mail folders using the default view, the first thirteen items in the Arrange By submenu offer different criteria by which the current folder can be sorted. For Calendar, Contact and Notes folders using the default view, there are no options in the Arrange By submenu for sorting items.

Most of the criteria for Mail and Tasks folders are self-explanatory, but a few points are worth making:
* Not all the criteria necessarily refer to fields which are on screen.
* The Conversation and Subject options both arrange messages according to their Subject, but Conversation groups the messages and only shows the latest message.
* The Folder option is only available in search folders, where items from more than one folder may appear.
* The Email account is not very useful within RNIB, because each member of staff has only one email account.
* You can use the Arrange By submenu to check how the folder is currently sorted; the relevant heading will be reported as "checked".

The benefit of this method of sorting messages is its ease. A downside is that you can only choose from one of the predefined options - you cannot choose, for instance, to have the messages listed with the latest message at the bottom of the list, only at the top.

2. Sorting by column headings with the JAWS cursor

The second way to sort messages makes use of the field headings that appear above the list of messages. Some of the field headings are text and some are icons. A mouse user can click on one of these headings to sort the messages by that field, and click a second time on the heading to reverse the sort order. A keyboard user can use the JAWS cursor to accomplish the same effect, but only on field headings that are text, which in the Inbox means the From, Subject and Received field headings.

The steps required for this are: move to the first message in the list, which will be directly underneath the column headings. Then route the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor and move up a line, find the heading you want to sort by and click it. The keystrokes for this are as follows:
Home - to move to the first message in the list.
UpArrow to move up a line - if the folder is grouped, there is an extra line above the first message. If the folder isn't grouped, this keystroke does nothing.
Insert + NumPad Minus - to route the JAWS to the PC cursor.
UpArrow to move up a line; this should put the JAWS cursor on the column headings.
Insert + RightArrow and Insert + LeftArrow to check which heading you are on and to move to the one you want to sort the folder by.
NumPad slash - perform a left mouse click with the JAWS cursor on the column heading with focus.
NumPad Plus - to switch back to the PC cursor.

You should now find that the messages are listed according to the column heading you clicked on.

The JAWS Find feature can be used to search for field headings that consist of text, i.e. the From, Subject and Received fields. Here are the keystrokes needed:
Control + Insert + F - starts the JAWS Find dialogue.
Type in the text of the field heading you are interested in.
Tab to the Direction radio button.
DownArrow to change it to "reverse".
Enter - to start the search. The JAWS cursor will find the field header and take focus.
NumPad slash - performs a left mouse click on the field header.
NumPad Plus - to switch back to the PC cursor.

Accessing the field headers that are icons is not so easy. Starting with the JAWS cursor on the From field header, press LeftArrow repeatedly to move to the attachment field, the message type field and the importance field. It is still possible to do a left mouse click to sort by these fields, but JAWS gives no feedback on any of the headers. As far as I know, it is not possible to alter these field headers to anything other than an icon.

Hope that helps,
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Sent: 23 September 2015 22:10
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Cc: Paul Martz <skewmatrix@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Thanks, Kimber. I was hoping for some slick hotkey that would take me to the column header controls. I know I can do that in "add or remove programs", for example (allows me to sort installed programs either by name or by install date). Not sure why all list view controls don't work the same.
Frustrating.
-Paul


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Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

I haven't had outlook 2003 for a while now and I'm a bit fuzzy, but I
want
to
say look around under the view menu. I'm pretty sure you can change
the view/sorting under there.

Kimber

On 9/23/15, Paul Martz via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Does anyone know an easy way to change the email sort order in
Outlook 2003?

The list view of emails has headers for each column, and a sighted
user can just click on the column header to sort by that column. But
I can't find an accessible way to get to those column headers in JAWS.

Using the current version of JAWS16. Thanks for any help.
-Paul



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Re: Tapin radio and Jaws

Charles Krugman
 

I haven't had any problems with it other than for some reason when selecting a particular category under genre or under country such as U.S. headers are listed in reverse alphabetical order so it can be a bit confusing.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim L via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Jim L
Subject: Tapin radio and Jaws

Heya folks,

Anyone else having issues with the last 2 latest versions of Jaws 16 and
Tapin radio when in the preference dialog area, where Jaws just announces
every option in there and one doesn't know what's what or which options is
checked or unchecked.

Tapin radio was always great with accessibility but not this version Is
there a work around besides using NVDA? As that seems to read the
preferences ok

Cheers,

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Re: problem with live 365

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

HI
I use Windows 7 and Jaws 15. I hadn't been to live 365 for a long time. I have been a member for a very long time, perhaps 10 years. When I went back after seeing this question, I had no problems when I used my favorites. I was very surprised. I use Winamp to play my selections. I haven't tried finding a new station yet though. I like this new situation.

Marsha


Re: problem with live365

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Douglas. I use Windows XP, and JAWS13. I am using the latest Firefox, which is version 41.0, with no problems with JAWS13.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: problem with live365


I got this computer last spring with windows 7 installed; the latest jaws version my current license allowed was jaws 13, which doesn't support my current version of firefox or thunderbird. how will live365 work on a windows 7 machine with jaws 13 or nvda? also uninstalling and reinstalling webvisum (repeatedly based on varying situations) may be somewhat of a pain, which i don't want to have to suffer through. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/23/2015 4:01 PM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
I have no problems with it using Internet Explorer 11 and Windows 10
with latest version of Jaws. Of late Firefox has been acting a bit
clunky with the Web Visum add on installed as well as it just isn't as
responsive on many web sites. I only use it when I have to such as for
solving captchas or it sometimes handles selection points where there is
flash content better.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer
Subject: problem with live365

I went to the about:config page and carried out the steps; I have
youtube working in firefox, but still have a problem with live365.com.
When I go to that site, select a genre or station and hit Listen, I find
an "embedded object unavailable" message, and no sound is heard--the
embedded player stays silent. also the page keeps refreshing, indicated
by the constant clicking sound present since installing webvisum.
anyone else having trouble with live365? thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/22/2015 9:02 AM, Bill White wrote:
Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to access your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility
tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may
appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting to take
effect.

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
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5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
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On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

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Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should disable it.
Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it. Thing is do we
disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this. Found a checkbox for Flash in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we should know
about. I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying
again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons
weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If
it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may
or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
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Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Brad Martin
 

Paul,
I do this all the time, but it's a reflex reaction at this point, and I don't have Outlook 2003 installed here. I think I go to the View menu, choose Arrange by submenu, and then choose the column I want to sort by. But I won't be able to confirm that for you until Friday when I'm back in the office and can verify. Like I said, I do it every day, but without prompting, I can't be sure.

Brad

On 9/23/2015 12:49 PM, Paul Martz via Jfw wrote:
Does anyone know an easy way to change the email sort order in Outlook 2003?

The list view of emails has headers for each column, and a sighted user can
just click on the column header to sort by that column. But I can't find an
accessible way to get to those column headers in JAWS.

Using the current version of JAWS16. Thanks for any help.
-Paul



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Tapin radio and Jaws

Jim L
 

Heya folks,

Anyone else having issues with the last 2 latest versions of Jaws 16 and
Tapin radio when in the preference dialog area, where Jaws just announces
every option in there and one doesn't know what's what or which options is
checked or unchecked.

Tapin radio was always great with accessibility but not this version Is
there a work around besides using NVDA? As that seems to read the
preferences ok

Cheers,

Jim


Re: problem with live365

Charles Krugman
 

some of your problem may be that you are using the JAWS 13 version as it may not be that compatible with the live365.com web site. A while back I had to give up on live365.com and I don't know if it now works because of their changes my upgrades with JAWS and Windows 10. They are quite responsive to blind people contacting them as I've talked with their staff on various occasions over the past few years and they are quite concerned about trying to address accessibility issues as they are aware that a lot of blind people use their site.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer
Subject: Re: problem with live365

I got this computer last spring with windows 7 installed; the latest
jaws version my current license allowed was jaws 13, which doesn't
support my current version of firefox or thunderbird. how will live365
work on a windows 7 machine with jaws 13 or nvda? also uninstalling and
reinstalling webvisum (repeatedly based on varying situations) may be
somewhat of a pain, which i don't want to have to suffer through. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/23/2015 4:01 PM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
I have no problems with it using Internet Explorer 11 and Windows 10
with latest version of Jaws. Of late Firefox has been acting a bit
clunky with the Web Visum add on installed as well as it just isn't as
responsive on many web sites. I only use it when I have to such as for
solving captchas or it sometimes handles selection points where there is
flash content better.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer
Subject: problem with live365

I went to the about:config page and carried out the steps; I have
youtube working in firefox, but still have a problem with live365.com.
When I go to that site, select a genre or station and hit Listen, I find
an "embedded object unavailable" message, and no sound is heard--the
embedded player stays silent. also the page keeps refreshing, indicated
by the constant clicking sound present since installing webvisum.
anyone else having trouble with live365? thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/22/2015 9:02 AM, Bill White wrote:
Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to access your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility
tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may
appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting to take
effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should disable it.
Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it. Thing is do we
disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this. Found a checkbox for Flash in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we should know
about. I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying
again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons
weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If
it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may
or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
_______________________________________________
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My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>

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Re: flash plugin settings was: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

douglas richard dexheimer
 

I think changing the flash protection status in about:config made a difference; thanks anyway.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/23/2015 9:15 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
Firefox menu tools>addons Takes you to the addons manager.
With nvda, tab to the list of types of addons. You want plugins.
Tab to the list of plugins and go to flash... Then tab to the options
button.

You can also check to see if your addons are uptodate" in the addons
manager.
Bob


On 9/21/2015 7:53 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
how will this work with nvda? jaws 13 doesn't support firefox 40.
Once I go to the problematic site the "adobe flash plugin crash" alert
automatically pops up; i'm presented with a retry button, but
activating it only repeats the scenario. where in the firefox
tools\options do I find the control to set flash protection mode on or
off/ask to activate the plugin/allow youtube to run flash or continue
blocking?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 8:10 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
I set flash to ask to activate and now have to put up with a prompt that
doesn't read with Jaws so I did a jaws ocr to read it.

Allow youtube comtorun AdobeFlash? Continueplockng allow

On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may
or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>

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Re: flash plugin settings was: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

Robert Logue
 

Forgot to say the checkbox is unlabelled. It's the only one in the options dialog.

Bob

On 9/23/2015 8:15 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Firefox menu tools>addons Takes you to the addons manager.
With nvda, tab to the list of types of addons. You want plugins.
Tab to the list of plugins and go to flash... Then tab to the options button.

You can also check to see if your addons are uptodate" in the addons manager.
Bob


On 9/21/2015 7:53 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
how will this work with nvda? jaws 13 doesn't support firefox 40. Once I go to the problematic site the "adobe flash plugin crash" alert automatically pops up; i'm presented with a retry button, but activating it only repeats the scenario. where in the firefox tools\options do I find the control to set flash protection mode on or off/ask to activate the plugin/allow youtube to run flash or continue blocking?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 8:10 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
I set flash to ask to activate and now have to put up with a prompt that
doesn't read with Jaws so I did a jaws ocr to read it.

Allow youtube comtorun AdobeFlash? Continueplockng allow

On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE. uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
--
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brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>

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flash plugin settings was: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

Robert Logue
 

Firefox menu tools>addons Takes you to the addons manager.
With nvda, tab to the list of types of addons. You want plugins.
Tab to the list of plugins and go to flash... Then tab to the options button.

You can also check to see if your addons are uptodate" in the addons manager.
Bob

On 9/21/2015 7:53 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
how will this work with nvda? jaws 13 doesn't support firefox 40. Once I go to the problematic site the "adobe flash plugin crash" alert automatically pops up; i'm presented with a retry button, but activating it only repeats the scenario. where in the firefox tools\options do I find the control to set flash protection mode on or off/ask to activate the plugin/allow youtube to run flash or continue blocking?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 8:10 PM, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
I set flash to ask to activate and now have to put up with a prompt that
doesn't read with Jaws so I did a jaws ocr to read it.

Allow youtube comtorun AdobeFlash? Continueplockng allow

On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE. uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
_______________________________________________
Jfw mailing list
Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>

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Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Jane Withers <pitre4@...>
 

Could anyone send me the link to unsubscribe to this list. I had
unsubscribed, deleted that message but have not been unsubscribed, and this
all took place 3 days ago. Thanks for your help. My e-mail address is
pitre4@cox.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:50 PM
To: JAWS Users
Cc: Paul Martz
Subject: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Does anyone know an easy way to change the email sort order in Outlook 2003?

The list view of emails has headers for each column, and a sighted user can
just click on the column header to sort by that column. But I can't find an
accessible way to get to those column headers in JAWS.

Using the current version of JAWS16. Thanks for any help.
-Paul



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Re: problem with live365

douglas richard dexheimer
 

I got this computer last spring with windows 7 installed; the latest jaws version my current license allowed was jaws 13, which doesn't support my current version of firefox or thunderbird. how will live365 work on a windows 7 machine with jaws 13 or nvda? also uninstalling and reinstalling webvisum (repeatedly based on varying situations) may be somewhat of a pain, which i don't want to have to suffer through. thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/23/2015 4:01 PM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
I have no problems with it using Internet Explorer 11 and Windows 10
with latest version of Jaws. Of late Firefox has been acting a bit
clunky with the Web Visum add on installed as well as it just isn't as
responsive on many web sites. I only use it when I have to such as for
solving captchas or it sometimes handles selection points where there is
flash content better.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer
Subject: problem with live365

I went to the about:config page and carried out the steps; I have
youtube working in firefox, but still have a problem with live365.com.
When I go to that site, select a genre or station and hit Listen, I find
an "embedded object unavailable" message, and no sound is heard--the
embedded player stays silent. also the page keeps refreshing, indicated
by the constant clicking sound present since installing webvisum.
anyone else having trouble with live365? thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/22/2015 9:02 AM, Bill White wrote:
Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to access your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility
tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may
appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting to take
effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should disable it.
Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it. Thing is do we
disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this. Found a checkbox for Flash in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we should know
about. I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying
again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons
weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If
it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may
or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
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Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

Thanks, Kimber. I was hoping for some slick hotkey that would take me to the
column header controls. I know I can do that in "add or remove programs",
for example (allows me to sort installed programs either by name or by
install date). Not sure why all list view controls don't work the same.
Frustrating.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kimber Gardner
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 change email sort order?

I haven't had outlook 2003 for a while now and I'm a bit fuzzy, but I want
to
say look around under the view menu. I'm pretty sure you can change the
view/sorting under there.

Kimber

On 9/23/15, Paul Martz via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Does anyone know an easy way to change the email sort order in Outlook
2003?

The list view of emails has headers for each column, and a sighted
user can just click on the column header to sort by that column. But I
can't find an accessible way to get to those column headers in JAWS.

Using the current version of JAWS16. Thanks for any help.
-Paul



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Re: problem with live365

Charles Krugman
 

I have no problems with it using Internet Explorer 11 and Windows 10 with latest version of Jaws. Of late Firefox has been acting a bit clunky with the Web Visum add on installed as well as it just isn't as responsive on many web sites. I only use it when I have to such as for solving captchas or it sometimes handles selection points where there is flash content better.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer
Subject: problem with live365

I went to the about:config page and carried out the steps; I have
youtube working in firefox, but still have a problem with live365.com.
When I go to that site, select a genre or station and hit Listen, I find
an "embedded object unavailable" message, and no sound is heard--the
embedded player stays silent. also the page keeps refreshing, indicated
by the constant clicking sound present since installing webvisum.
anyone else having trouble with live365? thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/22/2015 9:02 AM, Bill White wrote:
Flash protected mode is a security feature for Firefox which is
implemented by Adobe for Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or
above). This feature is enabled by default, to make it difficult for
attackers to access your computer.



Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility
tools.



You can turn off Flash protected mode by following these steps:



1. Press Control plus l to open the Location bar, type about:config and
press Enter.



. The about:config "This might void your warranty!" warning page may
appear. Click I'll be careful, I promise! to continue to the
about:config page.



2. Search for

dom.ipc.plugins.flash.disable-protected-mode

in the list of preferences.



3. Press Enter on the preference to toggle its value from false to true.



4. Press CONTROL plus W to close the about:config window.



5. Close Firefox, and re-launch Firefox for the new setting to take effect.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "douglas richard dexheimer" <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: latest Firefox version that supports adobe flash player


where do i find the checkbox to enable or disable flash protection?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/21/2015 9:38 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Great sleuthing, astounding Adobe message.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Logue via Jfw
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robert Logue
Subject: Re: latest firefox version that supports adobe flash player

I'm curious about turning off Flash and why we should disable it. Didn't
know labels worked better in Youtube without it. Thing is do we disable
or set to ask to activate?

I decided to look in to this. Found a checkbox for Flash in Firefox
that wasn't labeled so I read more and found something we should know
about. I'll paste it below without comment.

Adobe Flash protected mode in Firefox | Firefox Help


(Redirected from
Enable Flash Protected Mode Settings on Firefox)

Flash protected mode
is a security feature for Firefox which is implemented by Adobe for
Windows operating systems (Windows Vista/7/8 or above). This feature is
enabled by
default, to make it difficult for attackers to access your computer.

Flash protected mode might cause Flash performance problems in Firefox,
such as persistent hangs or plugin crashes. This is especially true for
users on
Windows touchscreen devices and for users who use accessibility tools.



On 9/21/2015 6:50 PM, Brad Martin via Jfw wrote:
No, it's not a security issue. Like I said, if you had said you were
getting an error that Flash was disabled, that would have been the
problem.

I have noticed that Firefox seems to crash a bit with video embedded
sites lately. Honestly, what I've found that helped me was installing
an add-on called Adblock. I installed it at the recommendation of a
friend, but when I did, almost all my crashing problems stopped. You
can download it at www.getadblock.com if you want it. It has fixed
most of my issues.

Brad

On 9/20/2015 10:15 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
I can still listen to the stations or videos in question on my
iphone; sometimes when I get a crash message in FF (on my win7
computer using nvda) I try the link in my ot her browsers--sometimes
it works, other times not. other browsers may get unresponsive, or
show the controls but no sound is heard from the embedded player.
I'll get a message like "embedded object unavailable." why would
flash's security diminish with later versions of firefox--i.e., why
did those sites work in earlier ff versions on my older windows xp
computer, but not in the current version on my new windows 7 machine?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/20/2015 9:28 PM, Brad Martin wrote:
Sorry you didn't get my response from a few days ago. Trying again...

What I wrote regarding Firefox 40.0.3 was:

That should work. I thought you were going to say the buttons weren't
reading for you correctly, because that is often the case with
Firefox.
Flash reads
better with Internet Explorer. If you're getting a message that
Flash is
disabled, it suggests that there is a security flaw in Flash and
Firefox
is blocking
access to it until Adobe releases a patched version of Flash. If it's
crashing, that's a beast of another color.


Brad
brad@formyfriends.org


On 9/20/2015 8:58 PM, douglas richard dexheimer via Jfw wrote:
did anyone get this yet? I've gotten no response so far.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 9/15/2015 3:22 PM, douglas richard dexheimer wrote:
using firefox 40.0.3; what is the latest version that supports
afp? on
some websites that use flash content (youtube, spotify, live365,
video
streaming sites with embedded objects or players, etc.) I get a
popup
saying the adobe flash plug-in has crashed. the same site may
or may
not work on other browsers such as IE, chrome or webbIE.
uninstalling
and reinstalling afp didn't improve things. thanks for your
feedback.
_______________________________________________
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--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>

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