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Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Dan Longmore
Hi, In your navigation pane you can right click or use application key, and get a list of choices for folders. These include: rename, move, delete and others. Note you cannot delete the “Inbox” folder from this method.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Ballantyne
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 9:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Hi,
How do I delete folders from outlook running Microsoft 365, Latest JAWS 2020, latest Windows 10? Is there a second step needed to do a permanent delete ? Also what are the steps to rename a folder in Outlook with JAWS 2020?
Many thanks. Sharon Ballantyne
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Re: Edge question
Maria Campbell
BS. You are not changing anything by not saying the words, because there is a difference, whether you acknowledge it or not.
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 8:35 PM, David Moore wrote:
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Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Steven Hicks
Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please? I Assume that it is disabled by default?
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Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Shan Noyes
Hi:
I’m using the latest version of outlook.
And the commands are:
Alt o give you the folder ribbon. You can cursor down and left and right to get to the item you want or
Alt o then d f is for delete folder Alt o then m f for move folder
Note if you create folders unless you change the setting they will be created inside the folder that you happen to be in at the time of the command.
Have a good day.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sharon Ballantyne via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:39 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
------------------------------------------------------------- Hi,
How do I delete folders from outlook running Microsoft 365, Latest JAWS 2020, latest Windows 10? Is there a second step needed to do a permanent delete ? Also what are the steps to rename a folder in Outlook with JAWS 2020?
Many thanks. Sharon Ballantyne
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Re: Edge question
Mario
I agree.
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From: Don Walls [mailto:donwalls@telus.net] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 9:14 PM Subject: Edge question I find it disappointing that when Brian has merely stated a reality, that all of us have to deal with change in tech, that others respond with mean-spirited criticisms and put-downs. Brian frequently responds to listers’ problems with thoughtful, helpful responses, and I appreciate his generous contributions. Don *From:* Randy Barnett *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:42 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Edge question Well, It makes a huge difference in how they use a PC and what kind of experience they have when dealing with changes in how a PC is laid out. Ignoring the difference between the way we have to deal with PC compared to a sighted person is naive and and smacks of political correctness. On 7/7/2020 5:35 PM, David Moore wrote: Why did you have to point out that he can see? I do not think of people being blind or sighted! I do not like it when blind people do this all of the time. I do not even think about my blindness most of the time, and I don’t think of people being blind or sighted. I don’t like labels. people need to stop doing this! On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote: I insulted you by saying you are sighted and young and smart? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 6:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: Maria, Please give up this kind of insulting rhetoric. It's entirely uncalled for. I really don't care how old, or blind, or not tech savvy you are. That makes not the slightest bit of difference that you, like all of us, have to go with the flow of the technology stream as it goes along. You don't get to stop the world, nor do I, nor does anyone else. Given my track record here, and on a number of blindness related forums, your statements go beyond just insulting into outrageous. I suggest you think, and a lot more deeply and carefully, before tossing out your baseless frustration at me as though that's justified. It's not, period. So stop. -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 /The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./ ~ Lawrence Krauss
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how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Sharon Ballantyne
Hi,
How do I delete folders from outlook running Microsoft 365, Latest JAWS 2020, latest Windows 10? Is there a second step needed to do a permanent delete ? Also what are the steps to rename a folder in Outlook with JAWS 2020?
Many thanks. Sharon Ballantyne
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Re: Copying Selected Text
Richard Turner
Temporary place marker, control+windows+k Go to the end of the area you want to copy, or to the beginning if you started at the end. Press insert+space, then m. Then, press control+c. Go where you want to paste and hit control+v.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Dale Heltzer
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Copying Selected Text
Have you tried using temporary place markers, and the layer command select from marker to current position, *then copying?
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Re: Copying Selected Text
Dale Heltzer
Have you tried using temporary place markers, and the layer command select from marker to current position, *then copying?
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Re: Firefox is crashing a lot now for some reason
Richard B. McDonald
Thanks Shirley! Well, at least it’s not just me!
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 3:44 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Firefox is crashing a lot now for some reason
Richard,
I am also having a problem with Firefox crashing. It only recently began happening. I’m running JAWS 2020 and Windows 10. Today, I tried Edge again after preferring Firefox. And to my happy surprise, it seems to be working much better for me. I’m more inclined to stick with Edge.
Cheerfully,
Shirley Tracy
From: Richard Turner
Microsoft Edge does not crash but Firefox certainly does and I’m using the latest Firefox, Jaws 2020 and Windows 10 2004.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Yes, here as well. I think it came with a new version of firefox. It has something to do with Jaws, I suspect because on one page where I can make it happen, it doesn't crash with nvda.
If anyone wants to have a crash with latest version of firefox go to www.cvstats.net and hit enter on country stats. Firefox will crash immediately.
On 7/7/2020 14:37, Richard B. McDonald wrote:
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Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
paul lemm
Hi everyone,
thanks everyone for your replies. It’s a shame it doesn’t seem like there is a built in feature/setting to turn it on permanently. Still the ability to turn of the display is still a handy feature and who knows maybe they’ll add in a permanent setting in some later version. at least there is a layered keystroke so it’s at least nice and easy to just turn on/off . Mario, I did see your reply/suggestion, I was really just hoping for a straight forward setting in Jaws somewhere, I’m not really sure how to amend the auto start commands in Jaws and I don’t want to accidently break jaws 😊 since I mainly use my desktop and only use the laptop occasionally (where screen shade would be used) I’ll just stick with manually turning the feature on/off, but thank you for your suggestion
Paul Lemm
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 07 July 2020 19:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
Hi Paul,
To the best of my knowledge, no it can't be turned on permanently. For others that are unfamiliar with this Jaws feature it's explained below.
Note: This feature is only available with Jaws2018 & Newer, running Windows 10. I'm not sure, but possibly Windows 8.1 as well.
----- Original Message ----- From: paul lemm via groups.io To: jfw@groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 7:56 AM Subject: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
Hi everyone,
I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on?
Paul Lemm
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Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
paul lemm
Hi Shan,
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how NVDA get round this with their equivalent feature (screen curtain), is that it doesn't turn on the screen curtain feature until the desktop has fully loaded , that way if there are any issues at start up the screen is still turned on, it only turns off once NVDA and the desktop screen are fully loaded. Paul Lemm
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes Sent: 07 July 2020 20:36 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade As a developer and one who has supported users, I can understand why the screen shade item has been set to have to be turned on. If it was a permanent setting what would happen is it would end up generating calls. Because people would have their jaws starting up with the screen shade enabled, and then say something happened on start up of jaws. The screen would be blank. And there are a lot of users who would just ask a sighted person can you see what's happening. Well the answer would be nothing because the screen would be blank. So from a support point of view it is better that it isn't an always on feature. Have a good day everyone. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 1:27 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade ------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe. -------------------------------------------------------------- I was thinking, perhaps it would be possible to add the appropriate command to the autostart function in the myextensions.jss file and hopefully it will compile successfully. this way, screen curtian will be invoked everytime JAWS is loaded or restarted. the alternative would be is to turn the monitor off, but a laptop doesn't have a power button or a way to turn it off. although I could be wrong, I don't think so. -------- Original Message -------- From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@fastmail.com] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 2:18 PM Subject: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade Hi Paul, To the best of my knowledge, no it can't be turned on permanently. For others that are unfamiliar with this Jaws feature it's explained below. Note: This feature is only available with Jaws2018 & Newer, running Windows 10. I'm not sure, but possibly Windows 8.1 as well. Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by F11 or Printscreen both toggle screen curtain on and off. The screen shade setting does not appear in the Jaws Settings Center and is only accessible through the layered keystroke feature or, Jaws quick settings. The layered keystroke feature is when you hold down the Insert key then press down the spacebar, let up on both keys, then press a third key to perform a particular task. In this case the layered keystroke to turn the, Screen Shade, On or Off task is below: Hold down the Insert key, then press down the spacebar, now let up on both keys, and tap either the, Print Screen, key, or the, F11 key. With each press of this keystroke sequence you will hear Jaws report either, Screen shade on or, Screenn shade off. Since the Jaws screen shade feature isn't available in the Settings Center, and can be only accessed by the 2 ways mentioned above, here's the way to check its current setting through Jaws quick settings: BTW, whether you're in Explorer or a program, the screen shade setting is found in the General Options category of Jaws quick settings. So, when, in or on, most places of your computer press, Insert + V, to open Jaws quick settings. Down arrow until you hear Jaws report, General Options, and if Jaws reports that it's closed right arrow to open. Now continue down arrowing until you hear Jaws report, Screen Shade, either checked or unchecked. Pressing the spacebar will toggle this setting on & off, checked being, On, and unchecked being, Off. If you make a settings change for this setting or others, then tab to the, Okay button, press enter to save your settings changes & close quick settings. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* paul lemm via groups.io <mailto:paul.lemm=sky.com@groups.io> *To:* jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2020 7:56 AM *Subject:* Permanently activating Jaws screen shade Hi everyone, I recently discovered Jaws has a screen shade function which turns off the display of your PC. It seems to be a temporary option however, as every time I restart my PC I have to reenable screen shade. I have tried both the layered key stroke and setting screen shade through quick settings , but as mentioned both seem to only activate jaws screen shade until I boot down my laptop. Does anyone know is there a way of setting jaws so screen shade is always on? Paul Lemm NOTICE: This confidential e-mail message is only for the intended recipients. 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Re: Copying Selected Text
Abraham Sweiss
If fire fox is being used, the copy command works sporadically. Switching to chrome, the copy works consistently. Thanks,abraham
On Jul 2, 2020, at 6:38 PM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:
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Re: Edge question
Klaus Vielhauer
Hello Madison
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control + l works reliably with the new chromium Edge Control + d creates a favorite. kKlaus
On 7/7/2020 7:47 PM, Madison Martin wrote:
Hi all,
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Re: Getting to attachments/Problem solved
Bill White
It turned out that laura's document has two file extensions. They are
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xxxx.pdf.drf. Drf documents want to open with an app that renders photos. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew Law Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 7:35 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io Subject: Re: Getting to attachments/Problem solved Hi Laura, just because it is a pdf file does not make it unreadable. Yes, some pdf files are scanned documents, which need OCR, and later versions of JAWS tell you this when you open them. The other problem could be the security settings in Adobe reader, if these aren't set right, all you get when trying to read a pdf is JAWS saying blank, blank. I cant remember what the settings are called, but if this is what you are getting I will find them for you. I have also heard that Word 2019 will OCR a scanned pdf, do you have word 2019? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:59 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Getting to attachments/Problem solved Thank you to everyone for your input and suggestions with this issue. Your help is greatly appreciated. It is insert a, not alt a to get to attachments. I now can get to those attachments but I can't read them because they are in PDF format and not a word document. More learning to do on my end (heavy sigh). Laura Privacy Disclaimer: This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately.
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Re: Getting to attachments/Problem solved
Andrew Law
Hi Laura, just because it is a pdf file does not make it unreadable. Yes, some pdf files are scanned documents, which need OCR, and later versions of JAWS tell you this when you open them. The other problem could be the security settings in Adobe reader, if these aren't set right, all you get when trying to read a pdf is JAWS saying blank, blank. I cant remember what the settings are called, but if this is what you are getting I will find them for you. I have also heard that Word 2019 will OCR a scanned pdf, do you have word 2019?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:59 PM To: jfw@groups.io Subject: Getting to attachments/Problem solved Thank you to everyone for your input and suggestions with this issue. Your help is greatly appreciated. It is insert a, not alt a to get to attachments. I now can get to those attachments but I can't read them because they are in PDF format and not a word document. More learning to do on my end (heavy sigh). Laura Privacy Disclaimer: This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary, and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately.
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Re: Edge question
Don Walls
I find it disappointing that when Brian has merely stated a reality, that
all of us have to deal with change in tech, that others respond with
mean-spirited criticisms and put-downs. Brian frequently responds to
listers’ problems with thoughtful, helpful responses, and I appreciate his
generous contributions.
Don
From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Edge question Well, It makes a huge difference in how they use a PC and what kind of experience they have when dealing with changes in how a PC is laid out. Ignoring the difference between the way we have to deal with PC compared to a sighted person is naive and and smacks of political correctness.
On 7/7/2020 5:35 PM, David Moore wrote:
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Re: Edge question
Randy Barnett
Well, It makes a huge difference in how they use a PC and what kind of experience they have when dealing with changes in how a PC is laid out. Ignoring the difference between the way we have to deal with PC compared to a sighted person is naive and and smacks of political correctness.
On 7/7/2020 5:35 PM, David Moore wrote:
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Re: Edge question
David Moore
Why did you have to point out that he can see? I do not think of people being blind or sighted! I do not like it when blind people do this all of the time. I do not even think about my blindness most of the time, and I don’t think of people being blind or sighted. I don’t like labels. people need to stop doing this!
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@...> wrote:
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Re: Edge question
Randy Barnett
Maria He wont even use a PC with the monitor off to even have a
clue what it is like for us and he does this on all the blind
lists... Just ignore him that is what i had to do...
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Re: Edge question
Maria Campbell
I insulted you by saying you are sighted and young and smart?
Maria Campbell lucky1inct@... All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 6:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Maria,
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