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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Good computer guy exported my Outlook Express address to Business Card, and
then imported from there to Outlook. I would hate to tell you that and it
cause problem for you, but maybe it is something you could research. Outlook
Express could not be imported into Outlook. He came over here, at least
giving us the impression, that he thought that it would. My husband said he
could have studied the net to figure it out, could have saved $80.


Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

I have not found a quick method for transferring my contacts from WLM to
Outlook yet.
Outlook has considerably more features than WLM, consequently more stuff to
learn. Except Outlook does not have a very useful emoticon feature, smile.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 6:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you went to Live Mail, what did you do about your Contacts?

Is it easy to make distribution lists in Windows Live Mail. I have several
that I need to make. Today, I needed to send out word of a death to one of
my groups, but do not have the lists now and not the time to go through some
130 contacts for 30.

What do you like about Windows Live Mail? Does it have a calendar?

Can you tab around in it, or do you have to give Keyboard commands?

Carolyn Arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I have used Outlook, and I was annoyed with it. So, I went to Windows live
mail, and have had no issues with it. I suppose it all depends on what you
do with it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Melissa, if you press Control Y, it asks if you want to go to another
folder and announces how many unread messages are in the file that you
are in. I wish it was as easy as Outlook Express, but there are a lot
of things that I do like about it. I can live with it. It's kind of
like getting a new job, having to leave the old one behind.

Carolyn Arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa
Stott via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I use Windows Live Mail.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thank you. This one is going to require careful thinking.


Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:23 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Hello Carolyn,
I go to the list of files in Windows Explorer, move to the one I wish to
attach, do not open it, but press control C to copy it's address, and then
go to the new letter I have created, and press control V to paste it in.
To open an attachment in a letter press insert A, and arrow to the
attachment you wish to open, and press enter. You will notice here that the
message body is presented as an attachment.
In the conversation regarding turning off the navigation key feature in
Word, you may wish to leave it so that you can toggle it on and off using
insert Z. It is really useful for navigating around in documents you
createwith Headings to quickly move to various sections of the documents.
Cheers Kevin.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-11-15 7:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

I have not found a quick method for transferring my contacts from WLM to
Outlook yet.
Outlook has considerably more features than WLM, consequently more stuff to
learn. Except Outlook does not have a very useful emoticon feature, smile.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 6:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you went to Live Mail, what did you do about your Contacts?

Is it easy to make distribution lists in Windows Live Mail. I have several
that I need to make. Today, I needed to send out word of a death to one of
my groups, but do not have the lists now and not the time to go through some
130 contacts for 30.

What do you like about Windows Live Mail? Does it have a calendar?

Can you tab around in it, or do you have to give Keyboard commands?

Carolyn Arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Stott
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I have used Outlook, and I was annoyed with it. So, I went to Windows live
mail, and have had no issues with it. I suppose it all depends on what you
do with it.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:37 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Melissa, if you press Control Y, it asks if you want to go to another
folder and announces how many unread messages are in the file that you
are in. I wish it was as easy as Outlook Express, but there are a lot
of things that I do like about it. I can live with it. It's kind of
like getting a new job, having to leave the old one behind.

Carolyn Arnold

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Melissa
Stott via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Melissa Stott <mstott69@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I use Windows Live Mail.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Carolyn,
I go to the list of files in Windows Explorer, move to the one I wish to
attach, do not open it, but press control C to copy it's address, and then
go to the new letter I have created, and press control V to paste it in.
To open an attachment in a letter press insert A, and arrow to the
attachment you wish to open, and press enter. You will notice here that the
message body is presented as an attachment.
In the conversation regarding turning off the navigation key feature in
Word, you may wish to leave it so that you can toggle it on and off using
insert Z. It is really useful for navigating around in documents you
createwith Headings to quickly move to various sections of the documents.
Cheers Kevin.
Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-11-15 7:54 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Jimmy Jones
 

Thanks Mike. That's a fix that I can do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via
Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi Keith,

Try the following:

While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options.
Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the
following:
show preview handlers in preview payne.
This problem does not occur on every Win7 machine, but it has been found
that unchecking this option has corrected the problem on several systems.
This crops up on some 32 and 64-bit systems.
HTH,

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem


Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to
hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to
resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next?
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

The more you all are telling me, I'm thinking, might as well stick with
Outlook - the devil I am getting to know.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

I loved the old Qualcomm Eudora, but I ran into some problems running it
under 64-bit Windows 7. There was probably a work around, but a sighted
friend kept telling me how much she loved Thunderbird, so I finally gave it
a try around the time I got this computer. I love it. It's clean, simple,
almost never crashes on me, sorts my mail by Email account (I have several),
spellchecks as I type (although the dictionary is a little limited as is),
and works terrific with JAWS version 15 in Windows 7 Pro. And, bonus, it has
a conventional menu bar. A nice plus for me (but probably not needed by most
people) is that I could automate the sending of form letters to my clients
with a shortcut on the desktop. I've been thoroughly impressed with it, and
I kind of didn't expect to be. In other words, I was a tough sell, but you'd
have to give me a really really good reason to switch.

One caution: When I open Thunderbird, I have to Shift Tab once to get into
the list of messages. But it's one keystroke, and now I'm so used to it I
don't even notice.

Brad

On 8/10/2015 4:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw wrote:
Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



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Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Jimmy Jones
 

I have the same thing. It's a Windows problem which is not an easy fix.
However, I noticed this weekend that if I answer no to the wait for program
to start, then go to the desktop and press insert+escape to refresh the
screen it clears up.

I looked up the fix on the Internet, but its beyond my megar abilities to
perform. Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
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Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:29 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to
hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to
resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next?
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
OK



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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

When you uncheck, you're using the Office ribbon, instead of the virtual ribbon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and
pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara
Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion
to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The
suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the
ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just
says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Jimmy Jones
 

I find the insert+page down still gives me the number of messages in my
inbox.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Probably the interest in a brand new, fresh operating system? I would have
fbeen very surprised, and disappointed, if Windows 10 wouldn't have been
discussed on this list. When I come across threads I'm not interested in, I
simply delete them without opening them.

Cheers,

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of douglas
richard dexheimer via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: douglas richard dexheimer <drichardd@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

must this thread go on forever?! it's a tedious task to go through all
the messages in this conversation and delete the short ones. once it
started two days ago, what's keeping it going for so long?

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
cell phone 913-244-0612
drichardd@earthlink.net

On 8/10/2015 9:31 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Dave,

When JAWS arbitrarily shuts up, I think you use the JAWS key+Windows
key+F4 solution, right? If it's failed to bring back JAWS for me, it's been
maybe only once or twice in many months. However, I need to use it at least
twice a day.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that
JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening! For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have
proven
to be "far-sighted" after all. I think that I may adopt your 3
most-recent
version strategy myself. However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10. So, for now,
are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering? Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to
justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be "smart"; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully. I'm sure
that
there is a really good reason for it! :) :)

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: john.falter <john.falter@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground. I don't
think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
though. Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
position.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
um, adage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
feeder.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
to the
end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
waiting
for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
Windows10 won't be free anymore.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
Windows
7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it
ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to
know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in
mall?
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Re: Clarification of my question, and thank yous

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I agree. For example, the must-have, sexy feature of JAWS 16 for me has been the added OCR-PDF capability, and it has not disappointed.

On a secondary issue, if you have time for a brief VLC discussion, please drop me a line at Ted.Lisle@ky.gov.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Clarification of my question, and thank yous

Hi all,

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't upgrade to Windows 10, or that I never would. I'm sure I will eventually--quite possibly next year if it works well enough. The intent of my question was that with all of the new features that are available but which we can't use yet, I wasn't clear what I would gain by going through that process today, right now, this week. I have a desktop that's not quite two years old, but I've got lots of horsepower in it; it won't have any trouble meeting the Windows 10 requirements. Then I have a cheap laptop which is not quite a year and a half old, and it's pretty basic, but should also function fine with Windows 10. Both are running Windows 7.
Both are doing very well for me. Nothing's slow. Everything I need for home and work just works. It's really a blessing. So the goal of my inquiry was to understand what great improvements I should expect from upgrading to Windows 10 right now. To this point, I haven't heard anything that's made me want to drop what I'm working on to upgrade my perfectly functioning machines before I go to bed tonight. It does sound like Windows 8.1 users may be very grateful to get back the Windows 7 functionality that Microsoft should never have taken away in the first place, and I think if I had 8.1, I'd be thinking more seriously about diving into the Windows 10 pool.

On a completely separate note, I thought an interesting item is the fact that for a limited time, people who upgrade to Windows 10 will get a DVD player for free to replace their current Windows Media Center; but later adopters will have to pay separately for Microsoft's DVD player de jour.
This would be compelling if I hadn't abandoned Windows Media Player years ago for the free VLC Media Player.

Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion. It has been most helpful. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

Brad
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Re: stubborn remnants

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I've noticed those left behind, but don't remember having trouble getting rid of them the old-fashioned way. You might try something like Revo Uninstaller.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mario
Subject: stubborn remnances

after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the programs and features applett and found:

Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015
10.9 MB 6.1.004
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/
2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400
Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/
2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400
Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013
12.6.305.0


opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also happens with the 14 talking installer:

The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable.

Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below.
C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\
OK


The path
'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi'
cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this
location and try again, or try to find the installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0.
Cancel


The installation source for this product is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it.

I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so left those alone.

how to cleanly remove both talking installers?

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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

That's good to hear. Most people know that Lenovo has that IBM pedigree--quite a family tradition.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

I wish that had been the case. I bought a Lenovo on sale. It has 12 gb RQAM and 1 tb memory. My husband calls it "a Hummer." I said on Facebook that it set me back but was not a set back.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Carolyn,

Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 installations.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org>
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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This is a test!

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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Dave...
 

Jim,

Yes, I usually just get a shot of single malt to get me through the wait.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 01:16 PM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

You have more patience than I. If JAWS does not return within a minute or
so, I do a (you should excuse the expression) blind shutdown of JAWS, go to
the DESKTOP, where I have already placed the focus, and reopened JAWS. Mind
you, if a good pair of eyes is ready/willing/able, not to mention actually
present, I am not shy about asking for help in case something is going on -
un related to JAWS.

However, when no "eyes" are around, it feels like the world has been shut
off; so, I know what you mean by waiting for nothing. I usually try to find
something else to do.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

Pretty much hit-or-miss. It would depend on the Operating System + Video
Device Driver + JAWS Version + Program Version + Unknown Gremlins.

Very hard to duplicate symptoms with so many variables. I do know that JAWS
16 tendency to close and reopen without any warning is a bit of a thorn in
my side. There are times when it won't come back at all, and I'm sitting
there with my hands poised, waiting for nothing.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Dave:

Very enlightening! For some reason, I never got around to, nor frankly
considered, uninstalling previous versions of JAWS, and this may have proven
to be "far-sighted" after all. I think that I may adopt your 3 most-recent
version strategy myself. However, once someone moves to Windows 10,
previous JAWS versions will not work - from what I gather.

However, it may be a while before I upgrade to Windows 10. So, for now, are
there some applications that typically misbehave with the latest JAWS
offering? Or, as with many things, it is pretty much a hit or miss
situation?

Thanks.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:02 PM
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Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Jim,

As to previous versions -- simply because the current install is running
fine, it does not mean that it will run so with all applications. I
occasionally run JAWS 15 when JAWS 16 is misbehaving in a particular
program. I delete versions older than 3 major revisions back, just to keep
things simpler. And I still have all the executables for last revisions of
all major versions going back to 3.5. Of course that's just my
anal-retentive nature at work, having sufficient hard disk space to justify
that level of insanity.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 09:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Don't mean to be "smart"; but, why would you want to use previous versions
of JAWS if you have the latest version running successfully. I'm sure that
there is a really good reason for it! :) :)

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 11:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: john.falter <john.falter@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What I lose is the ability to use previous versions of JAWS.


On 8/9/2015 8:21 PM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground. I don't
think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister
though. Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant
position.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this,
um, adage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:05 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

As I pointed out earlier, a deer gets free feed at his local deer stand
feeder.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:05 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers
to the
end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm
waiting
for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first
rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade,
Windows10 won't be free anymore.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?


Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and
I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm
doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program;
you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that
now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to
indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to
know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating
system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can
see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where
Windows
7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should
cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it
ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to
know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in
the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning
computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in
mall?
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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Brad Martin
 

I loved the old Qualcomm Eudora, but I ran into some problems running it under 64-bit Windows 7. There was probably a work around, but a sighted friend kept telling me how much she loved Thunderbird, so I finally gave it a try around the time I got this computer. I love it. It's clean, simple, almost never crashes on me, sorts my mail by Email account (I have several), spellchecks as I type (although the dictionary is a little limited as is), and works terrific with JAWS version 15 in Windows 7 Pro. And, bonus, it has a conventional menu bar. A nice plus for me (but probably not needed by most people) is that I could automate the sending of form letters to my clients with a shortcut on the desktop. I've been thoroughly impressed with it, and I kind of didn't expect to be. In other words, I was a tough sell, but you'd have to give me a really really good reason to switch.

One caution: When I open Thunderbird, I have to Shift Tab once to get into the list of messages. But it's one keystroke, and now I'm so used to it I don't even notice.

Brad

On 8/10/2015 4:19 PM, Cliff Self via Jfw wrote:
Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?


Cliff


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Re: Advice on Lenovo Laptop with JAWS

Brad Martin
 

Actually, I have a Lenovo Thinkpad E545, and I could make this change somewhere in the control panel--maybe under Keyboard? Windows 7 here. No BIOS or UEFI changes needed.

Brad

On 8/10/2015 4:09 PM, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw wrote:
Hi Richard,

When I bought my Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 last November I had the tech guys at the place I bought it, Future Shop, go into the BIOS and change the function key settings so that they revert to standard function key operation. I can’t quite recall exactly what this setting in the BIOS is called. Someone else already mentioned this, but I thought I’d suggest getting someone in the store where you purchase your laptop to do this for you.

Cheers,

Russell
On Aug 10, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Richard B. McDonald via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi!



I am getting a Lenovo laptop (L440). Could you please reply with any hints,
tips, tricks or precautions about using it with JAWS?



Many thanks,

Richard

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Re: Reading Excel Row Titles

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, again, Rob. I misspoke when I told you to use Alt plus V to open Quick Settings.
1. The correct key is JAWS Key plus V to open Quick Settings.From there it is correct, and I'll re-paste it below.
2. Down Arrow once to exit the Search Box.
3. Press The letter T until it says Title Reading.
4. Press Right Arrow to make sure Title Reading is open.
5. Arrow down to
Define Name Column and Row Titles Override, and make sure it is on by
pressing the Space Bar until it says that this option is on.
6. Arrow down to Title Reading Detection. You can either set this option to:
Titles, Rows, or both.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: Reading Excel Row Titles


Dear List,
I pressed insert+Alt+Ctrl+R,
to turn row titles on.
Now my question is, How do I turn it off?
Thanks in advance.

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