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Re: Navigating the New York Times; turning off inline frames

Adrian Spratt
 

A delayed response, but I've finally tested the inline frames suggestion and it makes a huge improvement. From what I can tell, by turning inline frames off, I lose only advertising. I don't know if it would be true across all websites, or if the "off" setting would risk losing substantive material.

I find nothing in quick settings for bitmaps.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 9:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jimmy Jones
Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

It has been a long time since I looked at the times. Does turning off inline frames and bitmaps still help in the elimination of things you don't want to hear? I must confess that I have not used flexible web very much.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

Yes, I use all these techniques except for flexible web partly because the
NYT's webpages change from time to time and partly because the method is
just too cumbersome if used across the many websites I visit. In addition to
the minor annoyance of skipping links, etc., with n and other quick
navigation keys, the NYT format alters as I progress down each page.
Eventually lines break up, and I need to refresh. When I refresh, I often
find my focus has shifted elsewhere. I avoid "say all" on the NYT website
because I don't like to sit here as JAWS plows through ads, promotions of
other articles, photo captions, etc.

Navigation just shouldn't be this complicated. It's too distracting, as well
as time-consuming.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Douglas C.
DeCamp via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Douglas C. DeCamp
Subject: RE: Navigating the New York Times

Adrian,
I too miss the print feature. However, I have just gotten used to using my
navigation keys to quickly get around articles. I generally use the 1 key
to skip to the first level heading (usually the main article title), then
use the n (next) key a couple of times to skipp past the various option
info. This will generally get me close to the main text. I then use Say
All or the read paragraph keys to go through the article. I also have set
up flexible web to delete as many of the advertisements as I can. While a
little more cumbersome than the old print function I have found I can get by
pretty well. I also like to use the H (next heading) key on main pages
(such as national news) to skip through the article headings.
-- hope some of this helps --


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 11:01 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Navigating the New York Times

Hi. Some time ago, there was a thread about changes to the NY Times website
that made navigation difficult and the "print" versions of articles
impossible to find. The Times promised me, and presumably others, that they
were working on making fixes. The problem has only become worse since then.

I'm posting this query to find out if others are experiencing a particular
problem. Unlike in the past, there is no "print" link in an article.
However, there is a "more" link. After clicking on this link, sighted
readers can see a link to "print." I can click on the "more" link, but the
"print" link is still elusive. I found it just now, but once I managed to
click on it (I had to go into links list), all I got was a printer dialog.
Escaping out of the dialog, I found the page was laid out exactly the way
the main article page is.

So, is anyone doing better at finding and using the "print" versions of NY
Times articles? If so, would you explain how? Any other suggestions? (I know
about the NFB version, but it lacks the links within articles that can be
invaluable.)
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vacation?

Mann, Madleen
 

Can you put me on vacation until 18th of august?


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itunes latest version and latest jfw question

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Is it possible to skip a few seconds during a song in itunes like how one
can do in wmp and winamp?



Please just don't say "yes" so if it is possible, what's the keystroke? :)

Thanks.

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Re: JAWS and Amazon

Dave...
 

Hello T Using,

I've actually never had any problems with JAWS Technical Support. All my
encounters have been courteous, and admittedly, when their only suggestion
was to run JAWS in default mode and/or delete all the user settings, I've
complained that it was an onerous thing to suggest, they still didn't treat
me in any way a demeaning manner.

Sometimes I've found that my personal attitude at the initial call has a lot
to do with how the responder reacts, and I try to have an open,
non-confrontational attitude at the first encounter -- after all even though
it's been brewing in my mind for several hours or days, it's a brand-new
situation for the tech support person.

As to Amazon, I find it pretty good to use with any version of JAWS in the
standard mode. Just use all the different navigational techniques until you
come up with a pattern that works for you. I use the navigational keys to
move around, and in my experience, there are a number of combo lists that
come up when you select different ship addresses, recipients, or payment
options. Shipping method tends to be radio buttons.

Also note that if you ;purchase more than one item, and if they are shipped
by different vendors, you will need to select shipping options for each one
separately, since they all have different shipping options.

I see that you're using JAWS 15, but I don't think that there are any
significant enhancements in JAWS 16 that would resolve your issues.


Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tusing via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Tusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 03:08 PM
Subject: JAWS and Amazon


Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.



I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.



I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been
recommending all along.



Great sarcastic moral support.



So I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?



I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

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Re: JAWS and Amazon

Adrian Spratt
 

I think there are three parts to your post.

On the FS tech support person, I'd urge you to call back and run your questions by someone else and/or demand to speak to a supervisor. I've had problems with some FS people, but for the most part I find them professional.

On navigating the Amazon website to make purchases, etc., I find the regular (as opposed to the so-called accessible) website quick and easy to use. From time to time, when they make changes to the website, something goes haywire, but Amazon's web designers mostly respond quickly to concerns I and others have brought up with them. You could post specific questions here on this list, and I think you'll find most will be answered.

The exception is your third point, the Amazon Music player. I don't use it myself, but a friend who is an experienced and ingenious JAWS user who hates iTunes is corresponding with Amazon in an attempt to get them to fix problems with the music player. No good news there, at least for now.

I have a question: Why JAWS 15 and not the current version, 16?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tusing via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tusing
Subject: JAWS and Amazon

Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.



I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.



I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been
recommending all along.



Great sarcastic moral support.



So I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?



I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

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Re: JAWS and Amazon

Brad Martin
 

I don't know who you got, nor do I know any of their names except a guy named Dennis who has always been very helpful to me; but I've had an encounter with a guy I'll call Mr. SnarkyPants. For what it's worth, I use JAWS 15 with Firefox to shop on the regular Amazon site and I never have any problems. I always found the "access" site too limiting.

Brad

On 7/28/2015 5:08 PM, Tusing via Jfw wrote:
Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.


I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.


Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.


I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.


I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!


Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.


Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been
recommending all along.


Great sarcastic moral support.


So I ask this.



Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?


I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.


Thank you and have a good day.

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playlist in new iTunes crashes

Robert Logue
 

Jaws crashes and restarts then iTunes stops working when I focus on a certain playlist. The list was in my iPhone till yesterday. Then I did something to it that made it disappear from the phone. It still shows up in iTunes. Just tried copying all the tracks to a new list and crash again.

Have the latest ios and itunes.

I wonder. Do crash reports get sent to FS when Jaws crashes and restarts or are we supposed to send a bug report?

Bob


Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

Okay, I understand now that you're talking price, and not version.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 09:24 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Ok, I was 4cents over, it's 9.95.
I'm going to purchase it.
I became a huge fan of itunes in the past week.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Yes, BlindTunes.

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Curt Taubert <curttaubert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
for
me that the one I had.
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Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Dave...
 

Don't think so. Latest version of BlindTunes is 5.3.4.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:55 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


I was reading aboot the jaws scripts for itunes.
I think it was 9.99?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

Not sure at this point. You need to click on the product of interest,
perhaps?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 08:13 AM
Subject: RE: jaws scripts for itunes?


Smack me hard and call me stupid but how much is this?
I just read the site and I couldn't find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?

www.doitblind.com

Not free, but pretty reasonable.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 06:47 AM
Subject: Re: jaws scripts for itunes?


First, how does one obtain this script?

Second, is there a cost involved? And, is this the same version that has
been available, for several years, at a cost of about $350 US?

Thanks.



Sent from Jim's iPhone


On Jul 26, 2015, at 3:12 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Yes, BlindTunes.

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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 12:00 PM
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Subject: jaws scripts for itunes?

Is there jaws scripts for itunes? This new version of itunes is harder
for
me that the one I had.
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Re: Calling All Script Writers

northstar1950@...
 

actually, the line should look like this:

TypeKey ("DownArrow", true)




Legend has it that on Monday 7/27/2015 09:51 PM, Ed Marquette via Jfw said:
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About half the time, when I need a script, what I really need is a
macro.

I am stumped with the simplest problem.

I have an application which will work fine if only I pass the down
arrow through to the application, not permitting JAWS to process
it. I know this works because I've done it manually.

So, I want a simple script, which I've assigned to Windows down
arrow.

The first script command is the ByPass command, and I think that
works.

I'm then thinking I should send the TypeKey command followed with
the parameter (DownArrow).

So the line reads:

TypeKey (DownArrow)

Well, I get a compile error on the TypeKey command.

I think I am overlooking something pretty simple.

as the parameter.





Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: JAWS and Amazon

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

You know, for years I have told everyone how great customer service has been at Freedom Scientific. I haven't been in touch with them for a year and a half or so. Another friend had another screen reader, and she used to envy the help I got that she didn't feel that she did. So I hope they will stay that way, and that there hasn't been a change or reduction in work force making it so hard for the ones there that they are frazzled.

Best to you from,

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Drew Hunthausen via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Amazon


I'm really sorry to hear these kind of things. I've had pretty good in terms
of dealings with freedom scientific but have had a couple times where tech
support or customer service seems to be more likily to tell me how stupid
I'm for asking questions. I don't think people should be in any job that
incounters live people who are like that. Very frustrating.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tusing via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tusing
Subject: JAWS and Amazon

Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.



I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.



I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been recommending
all along.



Great sarcastic moral support.



So I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?



I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

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Re: JAWS With Firefox

douglas richard dexheimer
 

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On 7/28/2015 3:03 PM, Howard Traxler via Jfw wrote:

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Cc: Howard K Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:56 PM
Subject: JAWS With Firefox


Is there a secret setting in either jaws or firefox to get them to work together?

I have JAWS versions 5 to 11 and firefox 36 something. I have a windows xp pro and JAWS 8 on an IBM laptop that works ok. On other versions of windows
and jaws, it
just acts like the web page is blank. Help, please and Thank you.

Howard
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Re: JAWS and Amazon

Drew Hunthausen
 

I'm really sorry to hear these kind of things. I've had pretty good in terms
of dealings with freedom scientific but have had a couple times where tech
support or customer service seems to be more likily to tell me how stupid
I'm for asking questions. I don't think people should be in any job that
incounters live people who are like that. Very frustrating.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tusing via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:09 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Tusing
Subject: JAWS and Amazon

Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.



I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.



I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been recommending
all along.



Great sarcastic moral support.



So I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?



I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

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Re: reading objects

Adrian Spratt
 

It might do something if the object is susceptible of OCR. It would be worth trying for each object in a document that isn't otherwise identifiable. I think Ann's suggestion for objects that don't contain standard text is creative. The next step would be Kevin's which is equally creative.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of kimsansong--- via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:27 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: kimsansong@gmail.com
Subject: Re: reading objects

That did nothing...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

You can Try the JAWS OCR:

insert-spacebar
'o' for OCR
W for window, D for document, s for screen.
At 02:25 PM 7/28/2015, you wrote:
Greg,

I should have waited for you to follow up before posting my reply. Let me just add, in case people don't recognize it, that pressing shift-F10 is the same as pressing the applications key.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: reading objects

After you've selected the item shift F10 to context then select "edit text"
If there is any text there then you should be able to read it otherwise the
objects most likely are pictures of text or other objects within that
context.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: reading objects

I did that. When I pressed enter on it, it just said it was selected and
nothing else.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Greg Nickel <greg.nickel.works@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: reading objects

Try this.

Control-shift-o creates a JAWS list of the objects. Pressing enter on an
item in the list takes you to it.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: reading objects

I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list the
objects but how do I read the content? I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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JAWS and Amazon

Tusing <ptusing@...>
 

Hi,

Seldom if ever have I ever expressed any dissatisfaction with Freedom
Scientific.



I had been told to upgrade to JAWS 15 so finally I did it.



Well, with afriend watching my every move, I

Found it was very difficult to buy items on amazon.com/access,

Impossible to select a different gift recipientfrom a list of

People one lists for shipping, and impossible to change shipping options.



I was using the latest Firefox with JAWS 15.



I called Freedom Scientificand explained this. I was told sarcastically to
go buy a new version of JAWS which I frankly thought was totally out of
line-since F S had been tauting the virtues of JAWS 15 for sometime!



Thinking some one cared, I mentioned that JAWS does not work with the
Amazon music player-very useful for playing musicand

Downloading music.



Would you believe I was corrected in a short manner as the speaker from F
S quipped why would any one

Even want to use the music player.

Why would any one asksuch astupidquestion?

I guess we should be permitted to use some key Amazon features and not
others.

He criticized me for using JAWS 15-which was what F S had been
recommending all along.



Great sarcastic moral support.



So I ask this.





Are people shopping using JAWS 15 and latest Firefox on Amazon.com/access?



I have watched friends use the Amazon music player and it has a lot of
good features. But F S I guess would

Dole outaccessibilityand maybe permit us to use it 3 versions from now. The
sarcasm

Called support hit hardas I spent a lot of time

Trying to use the Amazon site and the player.

Also F S support had told me that JAWS 15 worked with both.



Thank you and have a good day.

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Re: reading objects

kimsansong@...
 

That did nothing...

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

You can Try the JAWS OCR:

insert-spacebar
'o' for OCR
W for window, D for document, s for screen.
At 02:25 PM 7/28/2015, you wrote:
Greg,

I should have waited for you to follow up before posting my reply. Let me just add, in case people don't recognize it, that pressing shift-F10 is the same as pressing the applications key.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:20 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: reading objects

After you've selected the item shift F10 to context then select "edit text"
If there is any text there then you should be able to read it otherwise the
objects most likely are pictures of text or other objects within that
context.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: reading objects

I did that. When I pressed enter on it, it just said it was selected and
nothing else.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:51 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Greg Nickel <greg.nickel.works@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: reading objects

Try this.

Control-shift-o creates a JAWS list of the objects. Pressing enter on an
item in the list takes you to it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: reading objects

I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list the
objects but how do I read the content? I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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Re: reading objects

Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Control shift O then arrow through the list of objects and press enter to
select the one you want. If you need to know what the objects are, and are
unsuccessful with the methods the other listers have put forward, you can
insert alternative text identifying the object with the assistance of a
visually equipped person. When the object is selected, go to the context
menu, up arrow to format and tab to alternative text, and insert your
description. .

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: July-28-15 1:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: reading objects

What do you do to list objects?

Best to you from,

Carolyn

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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:47 PM
Subject: reading objects


I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text
on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list
the
objects but how do I read the content? I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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Re: Calling All Script Writers

Soronel Haetir
 

Also, if all you want to do is pass a key through you can simply
assign the PassKeyThrough script to the key in the .jkm for the
application. I'm not aware of a way to use the key manager to
accomplish that but it's not a hard thing to do.

I use the script editor, open the .jkm in question then add a line like:

Alt+DownArrow=PassKeyThrough

On 7/28/15, john.falter via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
HelloEd:
Try this line:
TypeKey ("DownArrow")
This compiled for me.
You were missing the quotes around downarrow.

On 7/27/2015 10:51 PM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:
About half the time, when I need a script, what I really need is a
macro.

I am stumped with the simplest problem.

I have an application which will work fine if only I pass the down
arrow through to the application, not permitting JAWS to process
it. I know this works because I've done it manually.

So, I want a simple script, which I've assigned to Windows down
arrow.

The first script command is the ByPass command, and I think that
works.

I'm then thinking I should send the TypeKey command followed with
the parameter (DownArrow).

So the line reads:

TypeKey (DownArrow)

Well, I get a compile error on the TypeKey command.

I think I am overlooking something pretty simple.

as the parameter.





Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



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Re: reading objects

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Control Shift O - thanks.

Best to you from,

Carolyn

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Greg Nickel" <greg.nickel.works@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: reading objects


Try this.

Control-shift-o creates a JAWS list of the objects. Pressing enter on an
item in the list takes you to it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: reading objects

I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list the
objects but how do I read the content? I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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Fatal Error Message

David Moore
 

Hi all.
I am getting a serious message when I try to open a PDF document in
Adobe Reader on my Windows 8.1 laptop. The message goes like this
Fatal Error
Adobe failed to connect to DDE surver
Then, at the bottom, there is an Okay button. This is all I can hear
on the screen. When I press the Okay button, the message will not
disappear from the screen. I would appreciate any input on why I get
this message. The PDF document never opens up in adobe reader, but I
get this message. Thank you so much for your help.