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stop the "clickable"

Mario
 

I recall this issue being discussed but don't recall if a definite solution was given:
for future reference, what is a "clickable" item and how is it activated, because pressing enter or the space bar doesn't seam to do anything? and how to stop JAWS from announcing "clickable" when reviewing the contents of web pages in either using Firefox or Internet Explorer(or any other browser)?


Re: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Can''t imagine that.

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Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on
gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws
starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have
typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only
when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the
issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but
begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
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Re: shutting down.....

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Mine does that too and no musical sound coming or going.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

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Re: shutting down.....

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello,

The announcement does not occur when I shut down my Windows 10 computer.

Please keep in mind that since Windows 8, unless one specifically disables
the Fast User Switching option, the computer does not shut down in the sense
that we have come to understand the term in prior versions of Windows.
Instead, the default shut down option in both Windows 8.x and 10 places the
computer in a kind of hibernation mode preserving certain settings.

In order to truly shut down the computer, in the classic meaning of the
phrase, one must disable the fast-user switching located in the power
options settings of the OS. Once done, (1) Jaws will no longer announce
itself and (2) the computer will truly be shut down as it was in Windows 7
and earlier.

Mark

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 1:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Londa Peterson
Subject: RE: shutting down.....

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
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Subject: shutting down.....

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark

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Re: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Tom. Why not go into the Settings Center of JAWS while in your browser, find Language Detection, and turn it off. I know you said Language Detection is off, but possibly not in both applications.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 12:43 PM
Subject: MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH


Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
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Re: shutting down.....

Michael Mote
 

If you're running Windows 10, yes. My computer does that as well.

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Subject: shutting down.....

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Re: shutting down.....

Londa Peterson
 

This is normal. It's been doing that since Windows 8.1. It surprised me at
first as well.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:58 PM
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Subject: shutting down.....

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shutting down.....

Mark Furness
 

When I shut down my windows10 computer
The last thing it says is Jaws for windows: is this normal?

Mark


MY KEYBOARD SPEAKS FRENCH

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Hi, I posted this once before but didn't get any feedback. When I am on gmail, it seems when I have cleaned up a bunch of old emails suddenly jaws starts speaking French but only when typing. When I read back what I have typed it is read in English. I have language detection off. It is only when on the browser that this is happening. If I alt tab away and back the issue remains. If I switch to another program jaws behaves normally but begins again when I switch back to the browser.
The only way to correct this is to unload and reload jaws.
I just wondered if any one else has seen this very strange behaviour.
Tom Bisset


Re: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I'd give them five stars.

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:29 PM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way
throughout my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in
the past - cheers, I'm thankful for that.



Carolyn

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Re: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

They've got a bunch of good ones, all right, and it's been that way throughout my tenure as a customer. The mail support folks are good too.

Ted

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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Freedom Scientific Customer Support.

We needed to call them this morning, because my Num Lock kept knocking on.
We got Eric, and he was as nice as Customer Service there has been to me in the past - cheers, I'm thankful for that.



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Upgraded to Windows 10 And Have a Question

Mark <facebookmark@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

I decided to take the plunge and upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10
Enterprise.

I am delighted to say that all seems well, so far. I had to use Narrator
during the installation because I began the upgrade process before reading
the Freedom Scientific Windows updating page. I'm certain the process would
have gone much more smoothly if I had but, what's done is done. During the
upgrade process, I was careful to use the custom settings path, as opposed
to the express setup, to insure that Windows 10 Privacy settings were
adjusted to my comfort level. Left unchallenged, Windows 10 will attempt to
tap into virtually everything you do and share that info with Microsoft.

My question:

Is there a specific Jaws user email list or forum for those using Windows
10? Or is this still the best place to discuss Windows 10/Jaws.

Oh, one more thing, as yet, I have not installed any third-party apps on my
notebook aside from Office 2007, which was installed prior to the update to
Windows 10.

While I own both Office 2010 professional and Office 2013 Professional, I
see no reason to update to either since 2007 Professional works just fine
for me.

I hope you are all having a great day.

Mark


Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Lile,

I think if the help tutorial wasn't updated, it will be present in later
versions of Jaws. I will probably go and revisit that tutorial again, as
it's been a couple of years since I listened to it.

Les

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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short
course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for
later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut.

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS
ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means
we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online
solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems
regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the
virtual ribbon.

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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the
keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are
given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with
the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because
virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the
ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that
was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more
trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but
for now, I won't be using that feature.

Les

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via Jfw
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or
where I am?

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Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys
plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS
instructions while navigating.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate
for ribbon information?

Carolyn


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Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this:
JAWS put in the "Virtual Ribbon" for those who wanted to manually
navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed
to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true
in most instances.

Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon
without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual
Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to
check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the
function of some of the shortcuts.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I
followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are
easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing
this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks.

Les

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Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you
get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking
this option need to be aware of the consequences.

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White via Jfw
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Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work
properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

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Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

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Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

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Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Bill, you're good. I had phone calls, all kind of interruptions, but finally
got it sent, then proven in sent messages.

Best from,

Carolyn

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Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

Hi, Carolyn. I wanted to explain a little more in depth how to send an
attachment in Outlook.

1. Find the file you want to attach to your letter.
2. Copy it to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
3. Open Outlook, and open a new message to the person you want to send it
to.
4. Once the new message is open, use CONTROL plus V to paste the attachment
directly into the message.
5. Press Enter, and begin composing the body of your e-mail message.
6. Send the message.

That's it. The attachment will be in the message. If you want to verify
this, go to your Sent Messages folder, open the message you sent, SHIFT plus
tab until you hear it say Attachments, and check your attachment.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws


Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another
problem solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to
the dictionary I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
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Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to
other portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have
unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total,
then give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the
e-mail to Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I
attempted to send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to
block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook,
but does apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary,
since Control A is not doing that; also I want to know what commands
to give Spell Check to make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff
Self via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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JAWS REPEATING

Mark Furness
 

Running latest jaws.
When I go to a web page, jaws speaks 3 times the beginning.

Why and is there a fix?

Thank you for saving my hearing!
Mark


Re: Best email client with Jaws

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

OK, thanks. I can make that work. I could not open a plain text one this
morning, and neither could my husband with that rat he uses.

Best from,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: Best email client with Jaws

Hi, Carolyn. I wanted to explain a little more in depth how to send an
attachment in Outlook.

1. Find the file you want to attach to your letter.
2. Copy it to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
3. Open Outlook, and open a new message to the person you want to send it
to.
4. Once the new message is open, use CONTROL plus V to paste the attachment
directly into the message.
5. Press Enter, and begin composing the body of your e-mail message.
6. Send the message.

That's it. The attachment will be in the message. If you want to verify
this, go to your Sent Messages folder, open the message you sent, SHIFT plus
tab until you hear it say Attachments, and check your attachment.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws


Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another
problem solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to
the dictionary I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to
other portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have
unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total,
then give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the
e-mail to Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I
attempted to send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to
block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook,
but does apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary,
since Control A is not doing that; also I want to know what commands
to give Spell Check to make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff
Self via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Cliff Self <cliff@cablespeed.com>
Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the
number of messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole
ribbon just doesn't make much sense to me. Is there another, more
accessible, and hopefully free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

Yes, it seems to have done the trick for me. Thanks again, Mike!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:21 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jimmy Jones
Subject: RE: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Thanks Mike. That's a fix that I can do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem

Hi Keith,

Try the following:

While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options.
Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the
following:
show preview handlers in preview payne.
This problem does not occur on every Win7 machine, but it has been found that unchecking this option has corrected the problem on several systems.
This crops up on some 32 and 64-bit systems.
HTH,

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem


Hi,

Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16.

When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to hang on me.

I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next?
Thanks.


explorer.exe
explorer.exe dialog
explorer.exe
The remote procedure call failed and did not execute.
OK



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HotSpot Clicker error question

Aaron Lane <ajbd777@...>
 

Hello,
I had an old version of HSC and went to install the newest version. During
the install wizard, I was prompted to click Uninstall previous HSC version,
and I did this. Then the wizard told me it would create a back up folder.
Now I open an application that I want to start adding scripts to, and I get
a pop up error that says something to the effect, that I have a
compatibility error, it lists the address to the back up folder I believe,
and it tells me to open Script manager in JAWS, and save to recompile. I do
this, but still continue to receive that error message. I'm using JAWS 12 on
this computer. Any advice? Thanks much.

Aaron


Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

And the best part is JAWS help for Office 2007 has a really good short course on using the ribbon. I haven't checked to see if it's duplicated for later versions of office, but 2007 was the ribbon's initial debut.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

There's one more good reason to avoid FS's virtual ribbon. Using the MS ribbon, we're using the same one that everyone in the world does. It means we can share info with sighted people and take advantage of regular online solutions when we encounter problems. I google solutions to Office problems regularly, but the answers might do me little good if I'd resorted to the virtual ribbon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:33 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate
for ribbon information?

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this:
JAWS put in the "Virtual Ribbon" for those who wanted to manually
navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed
to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true
in most instances.

Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon
without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual
Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to
check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the
function of some of the shortcuts.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I
followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are
easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing
this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which
is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually
impaired users.
Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you
get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking
this option need to be aware of the consequences.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:

Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter.
Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to
Open Miscellaneous.

Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that
this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS.

To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the
letter D as in dog.

Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and
Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You
want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to
work
properly.
If
it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and
press Enter to save these settings.

I hope this helps you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill
White via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the
Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration
Menu?

This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option
under Miscellaneous is unchecked.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010


Hi,

I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V
followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area
which Jaws speaks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hello Barbra,
I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013,
and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up
"Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Barbara Hansen via Jfw
Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM
To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com>
Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010

Hi List friends,



Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the
suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this.
The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up
the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It
just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says
"blank".



Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



Barbara

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Re: Best email client with Jaws

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Carolyn. I wanted to explain a little more in depth how to send an attachment in Outlook.

1. Find the file you want to attach to your letter.
2. Copy it to the clipboard with CONTROL plus C.
3. Open Outlook, and open a new message to the person you want to send it to.
4. Once the new message is open, use CONTROL plus V to paste the attachment directly into the message.
5. Press Enter, and begin composing the body of your e-mail message.
6. Send the message.

That's it. The attachment will be in the message. If you want to verify this, go to your Sent Messages folder, open the message you sent, SHIFT plus tab until you hear it say Attachments, and check your attachment.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:53 AM
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws


Thanks, finally did figure that one out.

Do you know how I can open and also how I can send attachments in Outlook?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

Keep tabbing to add.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: August-10-15 5:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

It dawned on me to tab to change in Spell Check, so that is another problem
solved. Now, if only I could figure out how to add words to the dictionary
I'd be one step farther.

Carolyn Arnold



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:35 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Best email client with Jaws

When you hit Control Y, of course, you get the option to switch to other
portions of Outlook, but it also announces how message you have unread.
Admittedly, unlike good old Outlook Express it doesn't give a total, then
give the unread messages. I do like the calendar though.

I had one problem. I was told that to block a sender to send the e-mail to
Junk, which worked for a couple, but not on the last one I attempted to
send. I ended up permanently deleting it, but I wanted to block it.

Another thing I am wanting to do, which is not specific to Outlook, but does
apply to it is to know how to add words to my dictionary, since Control A is
not doing that; also I want to know what commands to give Spell Check to
make the change I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 5:19 PM
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Subject: Best email client with Jaws

Okay, I'm sick of stumbling around in Outlook. I can't find the number of
messages in my Inbox, I keep losing mail, and the whole ribbon just doesn't
make much sense to me. Is there another, more accessible, and hopefully
free mail client I can switch to?



Cliff



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