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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Adrian,

I agree with you &, I don't find it acceptable either but, what else are we
supposed to do? We can bitch until the cows come home & it won't change the
fact, that Freedom Scientific already knows, they are not keeping up with
their own products. I've complained about various screw-ups for many years,
& when you send them a complaint you only get back an automated kiss ass
email stating how they're working to resolve the problem. It seems to me
that they have a need to stay on some kind of schedule, & that schedule is
to put out a new version of Jaws around November of each year whether it's
ready for consumer consumption or not!
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:46 PM
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained


Sorry, Mike, but I don't find this statement acceptable. Ease of transition
from version to version is important. FS should have anticipated this
concern and figured out a solution before it became our problem. As I
believe it was Aidan who pointed out, it isn't as if the new features in
JAWS 17 are exactly compelling. There are potential problems involved in
skipping a version, so I still plan to install JAWS 17 one of these days.
Once again, I encourage anyone who feels as I do to contact FS Tech Support
at

support@freedomscientific.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Re: merge utility

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Jim,

Here you go:

Support@FreedomScientific.com


Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Hamilton via Jfw
To: 'Adrian Spratt' ; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


It might be useful here to have someone send out the e-mail address that can
be used to express our displeasure with FS tech support. I'm sure that
someone has it!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Merge Utility - GONE!!!!!!

HAMILTON
 

There seems to be a storm brewing regarding the fact that the Merge Utility
is not part of JAWS V: 17. Why was this problem not worked out before JAWS
17 was released? Clearly, FS knew that previous version settings could not
be "merged" as in previous versions; so, FS should have fixed it before it
became a problem!

Can you tell us in which very early-on JAWS Version: 17 update will this fix
appear? At this time, I am planning to wait until the "fix is in" before
upgrading to Version: 17. Of course, this will mean waiting to install
Windows 10; but, it cannot be helped!

Jim H


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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

HAMILTON
 

Well, I'm sorry! FS telling us that they are "working on it" is just not
good enough!

Can you tell that I'm upset?

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Melissa Stott [mailto:mstott69@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:49 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

I agree with Mike. I'm sure that they are working on something.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

_______________________________________________
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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

HAMILTON
 

Why was this problem not worked out before JAWS 17 was released? Clearly,
FS knew that previous version settings could not be "merged"; so, they could
have fixed it before it became a problem! Sometimes I wonder which is
worse, MicroSoft or FS!

From this thread, I get the impression that FS is starting to fall behind -
again.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B [mailto:mb69mach1@charter.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the

Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

_______________________________________________
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Re: merge utility

HAMILTON
 

It might be useful here to have someone send out the e-mail address that can
be used to express our displeasure with FS tech support. I'm sure that
someone has it!

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt [mailto:Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Adrian Spratt
 

Sorry, Mike, but I don't find this statement acceptable. Ease of transition from version to version is important. FS should have anticipated this concern and figured out a solution before it became our problem. As I believe it was Aidan who pointed out, it isn't as if the new features in JAWS 17 are exactly compelling. There are potential problems involved in skipping a version, so I still plan to install JAWS 17 one of these days. Once again, I encourage anyone who feels as I do to contact FS Tech Support at

support@freedomscientific.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Re: PDF forms

Adrian Spratt
 

One way is to tab through the form fields and fill them in, then go back through the document with control-down arrow or another preferred quick navigation method to ensure all fields have been filled in as you mean them to be. Tedious? Time-consuming? Agreed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Corner via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Barbara Corner
Subject: PDF forms

What is the best way to read , then complete and then read completed forms
in PDF?

If I tab I can read the information as to what I need to put in the boxes
but it skips other text.
If I arrow down I can't always find where to put in the text in the edit
fields.
Thanks!
Bar




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Re: Spell check, quick keys command

Peter Tesar
 

Hello Carolyn,

Yes I do use F7 to do a spell check. . That is not a list.

Ann sent the tip on use of quick keys.

Here is what she sent:
There are JAWS hotkeys that work with spell check. turn on quick keys
with insert-z. Alt-l will list misspelled words...

She says that the alt+l hot key is supposed to produce a list. It does not do anything for me.

Peter T

On 2015-11-04 10:03 PM, Carolyn Arnold via Jfw wrote:
Peter, do you press F7 for Spell Check?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:15 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Spell check, quick keys command

Hello,

In WORD 2013, the use of ctrl+z to togglequick keys is handy.

But the alt+l does not bring up a list of misspelled words.

The "m" for the next misspelled word does work and I will find this very
useful.

Thanks.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 10:26 PM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
There are JAWS hotkeys that work with spell check. turn on quick keys
with insert-z. Alt-l will list misspelled words. 'm' by itself will
take you to the next misspelled word. After you corect it, though, you
have to do insert-z again before the spell check keys.
At 07:04 PM 11/3/2015, you wrote:
Hi,



I upgraded to Office 2016 yesterday. Outlook works only occasionally.
Most
of the time when you open a message, you can't read the message. JAWS
just says, "blank". 2016 had to be uninstalled and office 2013
reinstalled. Word in 2016 seemed to work all right. They have not
improved the spell checker though. Just like 2013. No alt-key to use.



Gennie

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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi Carolyn,

The Merge Utility was used to import all your settings from 1 version of
Jaws to another. Also, always remember that the only dumb question is the 1
that isn't asked!
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained


How was JAWS Utilities used, or what did it do? I don't recall using it.
I hate to sound dumb, but prefer sounding dumb to staying dumb and not
finding out.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about
the Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This
comes from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process.
This included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these
changes, the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as
settings from prior versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution
for the future which will replace this utility and provide an even
greater benefit for our customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone
on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we
might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature
again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and
ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this
is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start
all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years?
Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

How was JAWS Utilities used, or what did it do? I don't recall using it.
I hate to sound dumb, but prefer sounding dumb to staying dumb and not
finding out.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mike B <mb69mach1@charter.net>
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about
the Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This
comes from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process.
This included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these
changes, the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as
settings from prior versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution
for the future which will replace this utility and provide an even
greater benefit for our customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone
on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we
might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature
again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and
ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this
is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start
all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years?
Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria
Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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PDF forms

Barbara Corner <bcorner@...>
 

What is the best way to read , then complete and then read completed forms
in PDF?

If I tab I can read the information as to what I need to put in the boxes
but it skips other text.
If I arrow down I can't always find where to put in the text in the edit
fields.
Thanks!
Bar


Re: Spell check, quick keys command

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Peter, do you press F7 for Spell Check?

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:15 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Spell check, quick keys command

Hello,

In WORD 2013, the use of ctrl+z to togglequick keys is handy.

But the alt+l does not bring up a list of misspelled words.

The "m" for the next misspelled word does work and I will find this very
useful.

Thanks.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 10:26 PM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
There are JAWS hotkeys that work with spell check. turn on quick keys
with insert-z. Alt-l will list misspelled words. 'm' by itself will
take you to the next misspelled word. After you corect it, though, you
have to do insert-z again before the spell check keys.
At 07:04 PM 11/3/2015, you wrote:
Hi,



I upgraded to Office 2016 yesterday. Outlook works only occasionally.
Most
of the time when you open a message, you can't read the message. JAWS
just says, "blank". 2016 had to be uninstalled and office 2013
reinstalled. Word in 2016 seemed to work all right. They have not
improved the spell checker though. Just like 2013. No alt-key to use.



Gennie

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Re: Another way to open recently opened documents using the Jump List.

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Yeah, that does get recent documents. You also can type Control O and tab
to them.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 9:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Another way to open recently opened documents using the Jump
List.

Hello,

In WORD 2013, I found out how to open recently opened documents.

There is another way. Some will think it is easier.
Open the START menu with the Windows Logo key
Arrow down to: Most used list box
arrow down and highlight: WORD 2013
Tab to the: show Jump list button
activate it to get the list of documents, WORD documents and text
files.

Peter T
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Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Windows R, then type documents will give the document directory; also I made a hot key that will open Documents any time for file access.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 8:53 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Hello,

The response Steve gave is exactly what I wanted. To bring up an edit box into which I can type a text file name. This is a file that was not recently opened by WORD.

Steve has 1 mistake. the"alt, f" should be alt together with f.

To get to the WORD Options:
alt+f
t
arrow down to the "save" tab
tab 7 times to back stage
activate the check box
ESCAPE (to quit) or ENTER (to save settings and quit).

I still get:
back stage view no open document
when starting WORD.
I have to press ESCAPE to get:
document 1, print view, edit

Then the ctrl+o brings up the familiar File Name edit box.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 4:52 AM, Steve Griffiths via Jfw wrote:
Carolyn and others,

By default the Ctrl-O keystroke in Word 2013 takes you to the backstage view, but you can turn that off so that it opens the familiar Open dialogue instead.

You need to open the Word Options dialogue with Alt, F, T. DownArrow to Save, then Tab to "Don’t show the Backstage when opening or saving files". Press Space to check it and Enter to close the dialogue.

You should now be able to use Ctrl-O as you used to in earlier versions of Word. If you want to use the Backstage view, you can still get to it with Alt, F, O.

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: 02 November 2015 22:29
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Back with Office 2003, I could be in what they then called Microsoft Word, and hit Control O, then shift tab to the left, and I kept what was then My Documents as the directory of choice. I could arrow up and down through the thing, hit enter on anything I wanted. Every now and then, my husband would get another directory on there, and I can't remember what I did to finagle My Documents to be the one right to the left. Yes. With Word and Documents, I can get the last documents I have opened, just see no way to full access other than just go to Documents. Also, when sending attachments, I could do that too, which was way cool.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 2:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Office 2013 has a backstage view. Ours keeps the last 25 documents that have been opened in the backstage view. Assuming your documents are saved in documents, I usually press Control plus O, then shift plus tab one time and use my up arrow to find my document and press Enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 1:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Do you mean a document list, containing all your Word documents? There was an old DOS command, a variation of the DIR" command but I haven't used it in years. I think it was dir > filename.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 4:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Peter, here are some I have in a document file. I still hope we can find out how to get a document directory from a word document.


In Microsoft Word, for count, like Word Count, line count, etc, hit Alt T, W, then arrow up for information.

For font, hit Alt H, f, N

For Mailing, Alt M, E for envelopes and Alt M L for labeling.

For margins, hit Alt P, M, A.

For tabs, Alt O, T.

For word definitions: Shift F7, then F6. It will tell you to put in your word. Then tab to Thesarus English US. Enter, tab until you start getting the definitions. This one is a little tricky and requires maneuvering, but is worth it to find out what stuff means.

Here's what Trudy sent on key strokes:

I don't know your level of computer knowledge and am not trying to insult anyone, but thought that these shortcuts, if you didn't know them already, would be useful information for those of you who didn't know them already.
If you do know them, but have friends who don't, please pass them on.
Or, if you didn't know them yourself and have friends who don't know them, pass them on to those friends too.

Trudy
15 Keyboard Shortcuts You Probably Don't Know
Navigate your computer more easily with the push of a few buttons By
Amanda Greene Posted December 15, 2010 from WomansDay.com
Photo: © Thinkstock
Most expert computer users know the basic keyboard shortcuts, like pressing Control (Ctrl) + P on a PC to print a document. But did you know there are plenty of other useful—not to mention pretty darn cool—key combinations out there? From instantly zooming in to a larger view to quickly closing your browser window, these shortcuts will put the World Wide Web and more at your fingertips—because every second counts.
1. Add a Bookmark
Tab your new favorite website for easy access by bookmarking the page with the following quick trick.
PC: Ctrl + D
Mac: Apple key (see right) + D
2. Delete Forever When you know
you want to nix a file forever—instead of sending it to clog up the recycling bin first––tap the keys below.
PC: Shift + Delete
3. Close Browser Whether your boss walks up while you're reading gossip blogs or your husband comes in the room while you're buying him a gift, close your browser, stat, with this shortcut.
PC: Alt + F4
Mac: Ctrl + Q
4. Show Desktop
If you have lots of windows open on your computer and you want quick
access to your desktop—or a super-quick way to hide your work—hit the
following keys.> PC: Window key (see right) + D
Mac: F11

5. Find Files or Folders
Forget painstakingly searching all of your folders to find one file. The shortcut below will do the searching for you.
PC: Window key + F
Mac: Apple key (see right) + F
6. Change Zoom Level
Whether you're working on the Web or in a word processing program, zoom in or out with this command.
PC: Ctrl + scroll mouse wheel
Mac: Apple key + plus sign; Apple key + minus sign
7. Reopen Previous Tab in Browser
Have you ever accidentally closed the browser tab you were looking at and had to spend time backtracking to find it again? The shortcut below will restore that page to you almost instantly.
PC: Ctrl + Shift + T
Mac: Apple key + Z
8. Switch Between Open Programs
Navigating between open screens can get confusing. Make it easy to move among all your programs with this quick trick.
PC: Alt + Tab
Mac: Apple key + Tab
9. Take a Screen Shot Capture an image of what you're working on instantly with a screen grab—it's particularly useful for Web pages you can't copy and paste.
PC: Print Screen (then paste [Ctrl + V] into a Word document)
Mac: Apple key + Shift + 3
10. Refresh a Webpage
Whether you're waiting for a new email to arrive or the latest news story to pop up, easily refresh your screen using the keys below.
PC: F5, or Ctrl + R
Mac: Apple key + R
11. Go to a Previous Location in Browser
Time travel with the neat shortcut below, which lets you quickly go back to the webpage you were looking at before your current one.
PC: Alt + ←
Mac: Apple key + [
12. Spelling/Grammar Check
No more excuses: Perfect spelling and grammar is just one keystroke away.
PC or Mac: F7
13. Add "http://www" to Your Browser's Address Bar
The quickest route to your online destination? Just type in the name of the webpage you'd like to go to (for example, type "Google"), then press the following keys to add the "http://www." to the beginning and ".com" to the end.
PC: Ctrl + Enter
Mac: Apple key + Enter
14. Select the Address Bar
When you want to quickly type a new URL into your browser, the shortcut below will easily select the address bar for you, so you can start typing without moving your mouse.
PC: Ctrl + L, or F6
Mac: Apple key + L
15. Launch the Windows Start Menu
Just tap the keys below for an easy way to view your Start Menu options.
PC: Window key, or Ctrl + Esc
JAWS STROKES

Mouse Over – Control enter, enter
Signature in Windows Mail – Control, Insert, Enter,



Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
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Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Thanks Ann,

I'm making headwaywith WORD 2013.

Your suggestion to get to save-as by using the old:
alt+F then a
only gets me to the save-as tab. Inow know that I have to select a button for the folder and that brings up the edit box.

The F12 gets me directly into the edit box where I can type thepath/fileName.

I still don't know how to open a file from inside WORD. The ctrl+o gets me the open tab. Only recent documents are shown.

I need an edit box to type the path/file so I can open a text file from within WORD.
Existing WORD files can be opened by selecting them from the directory tree.

The large WORD hot keys file is a problem, maybe the "protected view".

I used F12 to save it as a RTF and text file. It will take time to go through it.

Thanks again.

Peter T

On 2015-11-01 9:35 AM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
If you remember the commands from Word 2003, you can use most of them.
But you can't open a menu and select one. So to get to the format
paragraph dialog, you have to type alt-o, then p. To get to 'change
case', it's alt-o, then e. Save-as is alt-f, then a, or f12.

Good luck! the transition is a stinker, but eventually it's manageable.
At 07:05 AM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
You can change the font by pressing Alt-O-F or Shift Control-F or,
best of all, Control D, which always has been delete - go figure. I
learned the second and third commands from listers. I too jumped
from
2003 to 2013. Actually, I had a brief stint with 2010, which is
about the same as 2013.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:55 PM
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Subject: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Hello,

I just switched from WORD 2003 to 2013. The menu bar has been
changed to a ribbon menu for some years now. These ribbons are
proving to be an initial hurdle. I'm tabbing and arrowing in a
fruitless search for what I want.

When the ribbons first came out, Ihad heard that you could use some
of the old Menu Bar hot keys, but that isn't exactly true.

Alt+F doesn't bring up the old File menu.

Some of you provided the hot keys for changing the font.

How do I do a "save as"? That was in the File menu.
If I do a "alt+f a" I get a save as tab. There is no edit field.

How do I open a file? The ctrl+o gives me the open tab and recently
opened documents.
There is no edit field to type in the drive, path file-name that I
used to do.

I got started by using the tree to select an existing WORD document
It was opened by WORD. I could then open it as a recent document.


I just found the JAWS training, as DAISY books. These can be
downloaded so I downloaded the VirtualRibbonMenus.exe. It is an executable file.
How do I get it into a DAISY book format to transfer to my DAISY player?

Thanks for any help.
Peter T.

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Re: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Melissa Stott <mstott69@...>
 

I agree with Mike. I'm sure that they are working on something.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike B via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 9:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B
Subject: Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Merge Utility, Why It's Missing, Explained

Mike B <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

There's no need to craft a petition or anything else. Below tells about the
Merge Utility & why it's missing in Jaws 17, for now anyways. This comes
from What's new in Jaws 17.

Merge Utility No Longer Available

Major changes have been made to improve the JAWS localization process. This
included reorganizing many of the JAWS settings files. Due to these changes,
the Merge utility is no longer installed with JAWS 17 as settings from prior
versions cannot be merged. We are planning a solution for the future which
will replace this utility and provide an even greater benefit for our
customers.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: merge utility


I don't know how appropriate or beneficial this could be, but if someone on
the list would be willing to craft a petition regarding this issue, we might
be able to get enough signitures to make an impact.

Sometimes, I just scratch my head at these kinds of decisions.

I certainly will sign any such petition, if it is created.

I'm looking to upgrade to Jaws 17, possibly during the college teaching
semester break, but that won't be for about 8 weeks for me at this point,
and I sure would like to have the use of the merge utilities feature again.
I know there have been issues with it at times, but the convenience and ease
of using it far outweighs any problems, in my opinion.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: merge utility

I'm going to write to FS Tech Support and ask for this deficiency to be
fixed. I hope others will do the same so they realize how important this is.
Can you imagine a popular commercial application forcing users to start all
over again with the settings they've created over the course of years? Note
that "merge" was misspelled in the subject line, which I've corrected.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Maria Campbell
Subject: Re: murge utility

I agree completely. Enough said.

On 11/4/2015 4:23 PM, Aidan via Jfw wrote:
Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being
important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it
would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a
replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to
use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation,
wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to
be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will
affect everyone negatively.

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Spell check, quick keys command

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

In WORD 2013, the use of ctrl+z to togglequick keys is handy.

But the alt+l does not bring up a list of misspelled words.

The "m" for the next misspelled word does work and I will find this very useful.

Thanks.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 10:26 PM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
There are JAWS hotkeys that work with spell check. turn on quick keys with insert-z. Alt-l will list misspelled words. 'm' by itself will take you to the next misspelled word. After you corect it, though, you have to do insert-z again before the spell check keys.
At 07:04 PM 11/3/2015, you wrote:
Hi,



I upgraded to Office 2016 yesterday. Outlook works only occasionally. Most
of the time when you open a message, you can't read the message. JAWS just
says, "blank". 2016 had to be uninstalled and office 2013 reinstalled. Word
in 2016 seemed to work all right. They have not improved the spell checker
though. Just like 2013. No alt-key to use.



Gennie

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Another way to open recently opened documents using the Jump List.

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

In WORD 2013, I found out how to open recently opened documents.

There is another way. Some will think it is easier.
Open the START menu with the Windows Logo key
Arrow down to: Most used list box
arrow down and highlight: WORD 2013
Tab to the: show Jump list button
activate it to get the list of documents, WORD documents and text files.

Peter T
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Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Peter Tesar
 

Hello,

The response Steve gave is exactly what I wanted. To bring up an edit box into which I can type a text file name. This is a file that was not recently opened by WORD.

Steve has 1 mistake. the"alt, f" should be alt together with f.

To get to the WORD Options:
alt+f
t
arrow down to the "save" tab
tab 7 times to back stage
activate the check box
ESCAPE (to quit) or ENTER (to save settings and quit).

I still get:
back stage view no open document
when starting WORD.
I have to press ESCAPE to get:
document 1, print view, edit

Then the ctrl+o brings up the familiar File Name edit box.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 4:52 AM, Steve Griffiths via Jfw wrote:
Carolyn and others,

By default the Ctrl-O keystroke in Word 2013 takes you to the backstage view, but you can turn that off so that it opens the familiar Open dialogue instead.

You need to open the Word Options dialogue with Alt, F, T. DownArrow to Save, then Tab to "Don’t show the Backstage when opening or saving files". Press Space to check it and Enter to close the dialogue.

You should now be able to use Ctrl-O as you used to in earlier versions of Word. If you want to use the Backstage view, you can still get to it with Alt, F, O.

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: 02 November 2015 22:29
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Back with Office 2003, I could be in what they then called Microsoft Word, and hit Control O, then shift tab to the left, and I kept what was then My Documents as the directory of choice. I could arrow up and down through the thing, hit enter on anything I wanted. Every now and then, my husband would get another directory on there, and I can't remember what I did to finagle My Documents to be the one right to the left. Yes. With Word and Documents, I can get the last documents I have opened, just see no way to full access other than just go to Documents. Also, when sending attachments, I could do that too, which was way cool.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 2:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Office 2013 has a backstage view. Ours keeps the last 25 documents that have been opened in the backstage view. Assuming your documents are saved in documents, I usually press Control plus O, then shift plus tab one time and use my up arrow to find my document and press Enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 1:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Do you mean a document list, containing all your Word documents? There was an old DOS command, a variation of the DIR" command but I haven't used it in years. I think it was dir > filename.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 4:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Peter, here are some I have in a document file. I still hope we can find out how to get a document directory from a word document.


In Microsoft Word, for count, like Word Count, line count, etc, hit Alt T, W, then arrow up for information.

For font, hit Alt H, f, N

For Mailing, Alt M, E for envelopes and Alt M L for labeling.

For margins, hit Alt P, M, A.

For tabs, Alt O, T.

For word definitions: Shift F7, then F6. It will tell you to put in your word. Then tab to Thesarus English US. Enter, tab until you start getting the definitions. This one is a little tricky and requires maneuvering, but is worth it to find out what stuff means.

Here's what Trudy sent on key strokes:

I don't know your level of computer knowledge and am not trying to insult anyone, but thought that these shortcuts, if you didn't know them already, would be useful information for those of you who didn't know them already.
If you do know them, but have friends who don't, please pass them on.
Or, if you didn't know them yourself and have friends who don't know them, pass them on to those friends too.

Trudy
15 Keyboard Shortcuts You Probably Don't Know
Navigate your computer more easily with the push of a few buttons By
Amanda Greene Posted December 15, 2010 from WomansDay.com
Photo: © Thinkstock
Most expert computer users know the basic keyboard shortcuts, like pressing Control (Ctrl) + P on a PC to print a document. But did you know there are plenty of other useful—not to mention pretty darn cool—key combinations out there? From instantly zooming in to a larger view to quickly closing your browser window, these shortcuts will put the World Wide Web and more at your fingertips—because every second counts.
1. Add a Bookmark
Tab your new favorite website for easy access by bookmarking the page with the following quick trick.
PC: Ctrl + D
Mac: Apple key (see right) + D
2. Delete Forever When you know
you want to nix a file forever—instead of sending it to clog up the recycling bin first––tap the keys below.
PC: Shift + Delete
3. Close Browser Whether your boss walks up while you're reading gossip blogs or your husband comes in the room while you're buying him a gift, close your browser, stat, with this shortcut.
PC: Alt + F4
Mac: Ctrl + Q
4. Show Desktop
If you have lots of windows open on your computer and you want quick
access to your desktop—or a super-quick way to hide your work—hit the
following keys.> PC: Window key (see right) + D
Mac: F11

5. Find Files or Folders
Forget painstakingly searching all of your folders to find one file. The shortcut below will do the searching for you.
PC: Window key + F
Mac: Apple key (see right) + F
6. Change Zoom Level
Whether you're working on the Web or in a word processing program, zoom in or out with this command.
PC: Ctrl + scroll mouse wheel
Mac: Apple key + plus sign; Apple key + minus sign
7. Reopen Previous Tab in Browser
Have you ever accidentally closed the browser tab you were looking at and had to spend time backtracking to find it again? The shortcut below will restore that page to you almost instantly.
PC: Ctrl + Shift + T
Mac: Apple key + Z
8. Switch Between Open Programs
Navigating between open screens can get confusing. Make it easy to move among all your programs with this quick trick.
PC: Alt + Tab
Mac: Apple key + Tab
9. Take a Screen Shot Capture an image of what you're working on instantly with a screen grab—it's particularly useful for Web pages you can't copy and paste.
PC: Print Screen (then paste [Ctrl + V] into a Word document)
Mac: Apple key + Shift + 3
10. Refresh a Webpage
Whether you're waiting for a new email to arrive or the latest news story to pop up, easily refresh your screen using the keys below.
PC: F5, or Ctrl + R
Mac: Apple key + R
11. Go to a Previous Location in Browser
Time travel with the neat shortcut below, which lets you quickly go back to the webpage you were looking at before your current one.
PC: Alt + ←
Mac: Apple key + [
12. Spelling/Grammar Check
No more excuses: Perfect spelling and grammar is just one keystroke away.
PC or Mac: F7
13. Add "http://www" to Your Browser's Address Bar
The quickest route to your online destination? Just type in the name of the webpage you'd like to go to (for example, type "Google"), then press the following keys to add the "http://www." to the beginning and ".com" to the end.
PC: Ctrl + Enter
Mac: Apple key + Enter
14. Select the Address Bar
When you want to quickly type a new URL into your browser, the shortcut below will easily select the address bar for you, so you can start typing without moving your mouse.
PC: Ctrl + L, or F6
Mac: Apple key + L
15. Launch the Windows Start Menu
Just tap the keys below for an easy way to view your Start Menu options.
PC: Window key, or Ctrl + Esc
JAWS STROKES

Mouse Over – Control enter, enter
Signature in Windows Mail – Control, Insert, Enter,



Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Subject: Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Thanks Ann,

I'm making headwaywith WORD 2013.

Your suggestion to get to save-as by using the old:
alt+F then a
only gets me to the save-as tab. Inow know that I have to select a button for the folder and that brings up the edit box.

The F12 gets me directly into the edit box where I can type thepath/fileName.

I still don't know how to open a file from inside WORD. The ctrl+o gets me the open tab. Only recent documents are shown.

I need an edit box to type the path/file so I can open a text file from within WORD.
Existing WORD files can be opened by selecting them from the directory tree.

The large WORD hot keys file is a problem, maybe the "protected view".

I used F12 to save it as a RTF and text file. It will take time to go through it.

Thanks again.

Peter T

On 2015-11-01 9:35 AM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
If you remember the commands from Word 2003, you can use most of them.
But you can't open a menu and select one. So to get to the format
paragraph dialog, you have to type alt-o, then p. To get to 'change
case', it's alt-o, then e. Save-as is alt-f, then a, or f12.

Good luck! the transition is a stinker, but eventually it's manageable.
At 07:05 AM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
You can change the font by pressing Alt-O-F or Shift Control-F or,
best of all, Control D, which always has been delete - go figure. I
learned the second and third commands from listers. I too jumped from
2003 to 2013. Actually, I had a brief stint with 2010, which is about
the same as 2013.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Subject: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Hello,

I just switched from WORD 2003 to 2013. The menu bar has been changed
to a ribbon menu for some years now. These ribbons are proving to be
an initial hurdle. I'm tabbing and arrowing in a fruitless search for
what I want.

When the ribbons first came out, Ihad heard that you could use some
of the old Menu Bar hot keys, but that isn't exactly true.

Alt+F doesn't bring up the old File menu.

Some of you provided the hot keys for changing the font.

How do I do a "save as"? That was in the File menu.
If I do a "alt+f a" I get a save as tab. There is no edit field.

How do I open a file? The ctrl+o gives me the open tab and recently
opened documents.
There is no edit field to type in the drive, path file-name that I
used to do.

I got started by using the tree to select an existing WORD document
It was opened by WORD. I could then open it as a recent document.


I just found the JAWS training, as DAISY books. These can be
downloaded so I downloaded the VirtualRibbonMenus.exe. It is an executable file.
How do I get it into a DAISY book format to transfer to my DAISY player?

Thanks for any help.
Peter T.

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