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Re: Using thunderbird with jfw 17

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I'll try that Insert Z twice quickly, since there are times, when JAWS does not work within e-mails. For the last 24 hours, most of the times, I have done the Insert-Control-Windows and sent error report. If I keep doing that, FS is going to wonder what in the world is going on.

Thanks for this idea.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 7:50 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Using thunderbird with jfw 17

I'VE BEEN HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN USING JAWS 17. IT JUST STARTED WITH 17. I HAVEalso had the same problem on some web pages where i'll have to turn the vertual curcer back on again. its frustrated me to the point that i'm almost ready to go back to 16.

On 11/6/2015 1:07 AM, Adam Morris via Jfw wrote:
I'm having a problem where messages sometimes open but don't read.
If you press insert z quickly twice and set it to on for all
applications the messages read.
You need to do this for each message that doesn't read.
Have reported to FS through my dealer.



On 06-Nov-15 06:17, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
My Thunderbird and Jaws tips.

View menu>toolbars:
Uncheck Mail Toolbar and Quick Filter Bar. They can get in the way.

Layout sub menu
Classic View checked
Wide View not checked
Vertical View not checked
Folder Pane checked
Folder Pane Columns not checked
Message Pane F8 not checked

NOTE: Message Pane is a preview. Pressing enter on a message in a
list always opens it.

Tools>Options>Display>Advanced Tab
Open messages in:
An existing message window radio button checked Reading Close message
window/tab on move or delete check box not checked
Note: Close message window/tab is optional. Try different settings
if you wish.


HTH

Bob




----- On 10/12/2015 11:29 AM, Mark Furness via Jfw wrote:
Hi,
I just installed Mozilla Thunderbird 38 on my win 10 machine.

Does anybody have any tips for using it? For example, I can’t seem
to get to my in box for the account I have configured to read mail..

Thanks!
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Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Tom, I think you are spot on. I remember that preview pane was turned off on
one machine, not done by me, but I do recall it was done, didn't know how.
Thank you.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 9:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@bmo.com>
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Hi, there are 2 settings you need to change under folder options the view
tab.
You need to turn off "preview handlers in preview pane" and "pop-up
description for folder and desktop items" these seem to be the problem
items.

Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 6:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Les Kriegler; 'Jim Hamilton'
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Ron, this is great info. I have a related question. I have been working
with two individuals this week on Windows 7 computers. When we open the
documents folder, Windows Explorer crashes while moving through a list of
files. I used to see this on my Windows 7 machine also. I've seen
reference to a remote procedure error message when the crash occurs. How
can one reliably get the file list to read correctly? I've also noticed
that sometimes, file extensions, file creation date, etc. will read when
traversing the file list, and sometimes, it does not. Thanks for any
assistance you can provide here.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ron Worley
Home via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; 'Soronel
Haetir' <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Worley Home <ron65@knology.net>; 'Jim Hamilton'
<jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

You can also find "Hide Empty Drives" in a tree view on the view tab of any
folder options Window for windows 7. You can get to this folder Options
menu by typing folder options in the windows search box. You will land on
the General tab first.

Be careful what else you check or uncheck in this area. When I set up
computers for our veterans, I always do the following so JAWS reads well in
folder navigation.

Before you start the steps below, you may want to change some of the view
options that there in that folder. I usually tell the titles in all my
folders to show in a list and not several columns. That is under the view
option on the menu bar or the ribbon.

Here we go!
For Windows 7
1. Open My Documents folder
2. Press alt T to open the tools menu.
3. Up arrow twice to land on the Folder options and press enter.
4. Press control T to change to the View Tag.
5. Now tab a couple times to place focus on the tree view.
6. Uncheck the first five items in that list. If you use J-say for Dragon
Naturally Speaking, then you will need to keep the classic view option
checked.
7. Arrow down a couple times and you will see the option for hide empty
drives and check it if you don't want to see a drive letter in computer of a
volume label that does not have a SD Card inserted or other internal , card
reader.
8. Continue arrowing down to the next item until you come to Hide Extensions
of Known File Types and make sure it is unchecked. Windows comes checked
like that out of the box. This means you will not see the extensions of a
file name like .docx, txt, etc. Very helpful in smaller folders where the
file names can start with the same names of folders and you wish to know if
it is a file or folder.
9. The last thing I uncheck is Show pop-up descriptions for folder and
desktop items.
10. I then want to save these changes to show in all my folder views so I
shift tab two times to the Reset folders button in windows 8 or something
similar in windows 7.
11. Press enter twice; once to start the option and the second time to agree
to change all folders to look like this one.
12. Now tab to the ok button and enter.

Now when you enter on a folder name, it won't say c colon backslash bla bla
bla before it says the name of the first title in the folder! Also, If you
are several folders deep, you will only hear the folders name spoken of the
drive you move to when you press the backspace to move up one level in your
list of folders.

For windows 8
1. Press the start menu and type "folder Options" in the windows search.
2. Press enter on the folder options choice 3. Now follow the steps above
starting with number 4.

Hope this helps your JAWS speak better.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 6:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Bill White; Jim Hamilton
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Hide Empty Drive is under Control Panel / Folder Options / View Tab.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'Soronel Haetir'" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.


The "Hide empty drives" feature can be turned off; but, I am not sure
where to do that.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir [mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Is there actually a disk in the drive? Many systems are set to hide
empty drives.

On 11/1/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Try typing into the search box:
d:

See if windows can find it.

Or go to run, which is still windows-r and type in the letter of the
DVD drive--presumably but not certainly d:.

Good luck!
At 05:53 PM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
Hello,

I now have Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17 installedon 2 computers.

On the desktop, "This PC" displays the local drives. On 1 computer,
the DVD drive is displayed while on the other it is not.

I cannot access a DVD if it is not displayed in "This PC".

The other problem is that, since upgrading to Windows 10, the auto
play no longer works on both computers.

The:
use auto play for all media ...
is checked.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Peter T.
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Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

Hi, there are 2 settings you need to change under folder options the view tab.
You need to turn off "preview handlers in preview pane" and "pop-up description for folder and desktop items" these seem to be the problem items.

Tom Bisset

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 6:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Les Kriegler; 'Jim Hamilton'
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Ron, this is great info. I have a related question. I have been working with two individuals this week on Windows 7 computers. When we open the documents folder, Windows Explorer crashes while moving through a list of files. I used to see this on my Windows 7 machine also. I've seen reference to a remote procedure error message when the crash occurs. How can one reliably get the file list to read correctly? I've also noticed that sometimes, file extensions, file creation date, etc. will read when traversing the file list, and sometimes, it does not. Thanks for any assistance you can provide here.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ron Worley Home via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; 'Soronel Haetir' <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Worley Home <ron65@knology.net>; 'Jim Hamilton'
<jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

You can also find "Hide Empty Drives" in a tree view on the view tab of any folder options Window for windows 7. You can get to this folder Options menu by typing folder options in the windows search box. You will land on the General tab first.

Be careful what else you check or uncheck in this area. When I set up computers for our veterans, I always do the following so JAWS reads well in folder navigation.

Before you start the steps below, you may want to change some of the view options that there in that folder. I usually tell the titles in all my folders to show in a list and not several columns. That is under the view option on the menu bar or the ribbon.

Here we go!
For Windows 7
1. Open My Documents folder
2. Press alt T to open the tools menu.
3. Up arrow twice to land on the Folder options and press enter.
4. Press control T to change to the View Tag.
5. Now tab a couple times to place focus on the tree view.
6. Uncheck the first five items in that list. If you use J-say for Dragon Naturally Speaking, then you will need to keep the classic view option checked.
7. Arrow down a couple times and you will see the option for hide empty drives and check it if you don't want to see a drive letter in computer of a volume label that does not have a SD Card inserted or other internal , card reader.
8. Continue arrowing down to the next item until you come to Hide Extensions of Known File Types and make sure it is unchecked. Windows comes checked like that out of the box. This means you will not see the extensions of a file name like .docx, txt, etc. Very helpful in smaller folders where the file names can start with the same names of folders and you wish to know if it is a file or folder.
9. The last thing I uncheck is Show pop-up descriptions for folder and desktop items.
10. I then want to save these changes to show in all my folder views so I shift tab two times to the Reset folders button in windows 8 or something similar in windows 7.
11. Press enter twice; once to start the option and the second time to agree to change all folders to look like this one.
12. Now tab to the ok button and enter.

Now when you enter on a folder name, it won't say c colon backslash bla bla bla before it says the name of the first title in the folder! Also, If you are several folders deep, you will only hear the folders name spoken of the drive you move to when you press the backspace to move up one level in your list of folders.

For windows 8
1. Press the start menu and type "folder Options" in the windows search.
2. Press enter on the folder options choice 3. Now follow the steps above starting with number 4.

Hope this helps your JAWS speak better.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 6:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Bill White; Jim Hamilton
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Hide Empty Drive is under Control Panel / Folder Options / View Tab.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'Soronel Haetir'" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.


The "Hide empty drives" feature can be turned off; but, I am not sure
where to do that.

Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: Soronel Haetir [mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Is there actually a disk in the drive? Many systems are set to hide
empty drives.

On 11/1/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Try typing into the search box:
d:

See if windows can find it.

Or go to run, which is still windows-r and type in the letter of the
DVD drive--presumably but not certainly d:.

Good luck!
At 05:53 PM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
Hello,

I now have Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17 installedon 2 computers.

On the desktop, "This PC" displays the local drives. On 1 computer,
the DVD drive is displayed while on the other it is not.

I cannot access a DVD if it is not displayed in "This PC".

The other problem is that, since upgrading to Windows 10, the auto
play no longer works on both computers.

The:
use auto play for all media ...
is checked.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Peter T.
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Re: using chrome

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Not necessarily, Tom. The JAWS cursor doesn't always work. It doesn't work on our Silverlight apps, and boy is it ever needed.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: using chrome

i should have said... this is only in chrome...

On 11/5/2015 10:25 AM, Bissett, Tom via Jfw wrote:
It is not that the jaws cursor doesn't work but rather with the changes in operating systems and the way in which jaws works there is little for the jaws cursor to see. Does your jaws cursor read whats on the desktop? If so it is not broken.
Tom Bisset
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:00 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: dennis
Subject: using chrome

another thing i have just noticed and its in jaws 16 and 17, the jaws curcer does not work. don't know if there is a fix for this or not.

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Re: merge utility

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I agree, Tom. Sure, merge is nice and quick, but, as noted in an earlier post, I went without it last time to insure a clean transfer, and the inconvenience was minimal. Custom dictionaries were my main concern, and those are easily transferrable with a simple copy and paste.
Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett, Tom via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:27 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: murge utility

With all the new changes and settings and how they interact make it more like trying to replace apples with oranges, oranges just don't work any more and there is no reason to bring them forward. So for this version you need to reconfigure. I am sure there will be a merge facility for moving from 17 to 18 because they will be more in sync.
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 5:24 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Aidan
Subject: murge utility

Hello.

I'm very upset for fs removing the murg utility option in jaws 17.
They have the excuse that older version settings can know longer being important in 17. I don't know if I must laugh. If they new that it would happen, why did they not make a priority to implement a replacement tool wich could be in 17?
Now you have to manually change everything? Is it possible perhaps to use the settings packager to acomplish that?
I find it so tragic that they spend the hole year on smart navigation, wich is not even such a remarkable feature, really this was going to be more bennifishil to more people and now that its not ready it will affect everyone negatively.

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Re: Using thunderbird with jfw 17

dennis
 

I'VE BEEN HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM WHEN USING JAWS 17. IT JUST STARTED WITH 17. I HAVEalso had the same problem on some web pages where i'll have to turn the vertual curcer back on again. its frustrated me to the point that i'm almost ready to go back to 16.

On 11/6/2015 1:07 AM, Adam Morris via Jfw wrote:
I'm having a problem where messages sometimes open but don't read.
If you press insert z quickly twice and set it to on for all applications the messages read.
You need to do this for each message that doesn't read.
Have reported to FS through my dealer.



On 06-Nov-15 06:17, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
My Thunderbird and Jaws tips.

View menu>toolbars:
Uncheck Mail Toolbar and Quick Filter Bar. They can get in the way.

Layout sub menu
Classic View checked
Wide View not checked
Vertical View not checked
Folder Pane checked
Folder Pane Columns not checked
Message Pane F8 not checked

NOTE: Message Pane is a preview. Pressing enter on a message in a list always opens it.

Tools>Options>Display>Advanced Tab
Open messages in:
An existing message window radio button checked
Reading
Close message window/tab on move or delete check box not checked
Note: Close message window/tab is optional. Try different settings if you wish.


HTH

Bob




----- On 10/12/2015 11:29 AM, Mark Furness via Jfw wrote:
Hi,
I just installed Mozilla Thunderbird 38 on my win 10 machine.

Does anybody have any tips for using it? For example, I can’t seem to get to my in box for the account I have configured to read mail..

Thanks!
Mark


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Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
 

Ron, this is great info. I have a related question. I have been working
with two individuals this week on Windows 7 computers. When we open the
documents folder, Windows Explorer crashes while moving through a list of
files. I used to see this on my Windows 7 machine also. I've seen
reference to a remote procedure error message when the crash occurs. How
can one reliably get the file list to read correctly? I've also noticed
that sometimes, file extensions, file creation date, etc. will read when
traversing the file list, and sometimes, it does not. Thanks for any
assistance you can provide here.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ron Worley
Home via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>; 'Soronel
Haetir' <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
Cc: Ron Worley Home <ron65@knology.net>; 'Jim Hamilton'
<jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

You can also find "Hide Empty Drives" in a tree view on the view tab of any
folder options Window for windows 7. You can get to this folder Options
menu by typing folder options in the windows search box. You will land on
the General tab first.

Be careful what else you check or uncheck in this area. When I set up
computers for our veterans, I always do the following so JAWS reads well in
folder navigation.

Before you start the steps below, you may want to change some of the view
options that there in that folder. I usually tell the titles in all my
folders to show in a list and not several columns. That is under the view
option on the menu bar or the ribbon.

Here we go!
For Windows 7
1. Open My Documents folder
2. Press alt T to open the tools menu.
3. Up arrow twice to land on the Folder options and press enter.
4. Press control T to change to the View Tag.
5. Now tab a couple times to place focus on the tree view.
6. Uncheck the first five items in that list. If you use J-say for Dragon
Naturally Speaking, then you will need to keep the classic view option
checked.
7. Arrow down a couple times and you will see the option for hide empty
drives and check it if you don't want to see a drive letter in computer of a
volume label that does not have a SD Card inserted or other internal , card
reader.
8. Continue arrowing down to the next item until you come to Hide Extensions
of Known File Types and make sure it is unchecked. Windows comes checked
like that out of the box. This means you will not see the extensions of a
file name like .docx, txt, etc. Very helpful in smaller folders where the
file names can start with the same names of folders and you wish to know if
it is a file or folder.
9. The last thing I uncheck is Show pop-up descriptions for folder and
desktop items.
10. I then want to save these changes to show in all my folder views so I
shift tab two times to the Reset folders button in windows 8 or something
similar in windows 7.
11. Press enter twice; once to start the option and the second time to agree
to change all folders to look like this one.
12. Now tab to the ok button and enter.

Now when you enter on a folder name, it won't say c colon backslash bla bla
bla before it says the name of the first title in the folder! Also, If you
are several folders deep, you will only hear the folders name spoken of the
drive you move to when you press the backspace to move up one level in your
list of folders.

For windows 8
1. Press the start menu and type "folder Options" in the windows search.
2. Press enter on the folder options choice
3. Now follow the steps above starting with number 4.

Hope this helps your JAWS speak better.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 6:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Bill White; Jim Hamilton
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Hide Empty Drive is under Control Panel / Folder Options / View Tab.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "'Soronel Haetir'" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows
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Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
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Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.


The "Hide empty drives" feature can be turned off; but, I am not sure
where to do that.

Jim H

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Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Is there actually a disk in the drive? Many systems are set to hide
empty drives.

On 11/1/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Try typing into the search box:
d:

See if windows can find it.

Or go to run, which is still windows-r and type in the letter of the
DVD drive--presumably but not certainly d:.

Good luck!
At 05:53 PM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
Hello,

I now have Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17 installedon 2 computers.

On the desktop, "This PC" displays the local drives. On 1 computer,
the DVD drive is displayed while on the other it is not.

I cannot access a DVD if it is not displayed in "This PC".

The other problem is that, since upgrading to Windows 10, the auto
play no longer works on both computers.

The:
use auto play for all media ...
is checked.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Peter T.
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Tools menus

thomas williams
 

How do you get to the tools menus using jaws, and windows 10?

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Re: using chrome

Curtis Delzer
 

I have been pressing alt-s, as in save when just after it asks do you with to open or save. Alt-s seems to work, and then if you press control-J in IE11, you'll go to your "view downloads," and there will be the list of your downloaded and downloading files. On each file you can press the right arrow to see if it is downloading, or if you hear "save" again just press space bar. Or, even if a download is stopped for se reason, you will be able to change that condition by using the arrow keys, usually right arrow to get to "resume" button.

At 11:53 AM 11/5/2015, you wrote:
I have used the key stroke Alt plus N to find the buttons when downloading a
file in IE. I am successful most of the time. Another way that might work
is by pressing Alt plus the letter D to get to the address bar, and then
using shift tab to find the buttons.


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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 12:43 PM
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Cc: Dennis Clark <dennis@dgclark.net>
Subject: Re: using chrome

Hello Adrian,
You mentioned that you are using IE 11. One of our computers has IE 11, and
when I attempted to download a file, I couldn't figure out how to do it. A
screen popped up which asked if I wanted to open or save the file, but I
couldn't find a place to activate either of these options. There was a link
for more information and a close button. Are there some settings I need to
change?
Thanks Adrian, or anyone else with IE 11 experience.

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: using chrome


Dennis,

I downloaded google Chrome and tested
www.amc.com
which you mention. As you say, there's no link or edit field related to
"sign in," and the JAWS cursor verbalizes only a graphic.

No question, Chrome works very fast and brings up a clean interface, but
it isn't fully accessible, as previously claimed. IE11 will remain my
default browser until someone demonstrates how to overcome these drawbacks
or Google fixes them. I do recall that someone on this list explained why
the JAWS cursor doesn't work well with Firefox, and I also recall there's
a complicated fix, so the JAWS cursor problem may be a function of
changing technology with which FS needs to catch up.

I had difficulty finding the right download link for my Windows 7, 64-bit
machine. For anyone interested, here's the right link:
http://www.downloadx64.com/google-chrome-64-bit/

Now that I've installed Chrome, every time I open it, it tells me it isn't
my default, but it moves on too fast for me even to locate a checkbox or
other field in the event I one day do want it to be my default.

-----Original Message-----
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Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:29 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: dennis
Subject: Re: using chrome

i should have said... this is only in chrome...

On 11/5/2015 10:25 AM, Bissett, Tom via Jfw wrote:
It is not that the jaws cursor doesn't work but rather with the changes
in operating systems and the way in which jaws works there is little for
the jaws cursor to see. Does your jaws cursor read whats on the desktop?
If so it is not broken.
Tom Bisset
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:00 AM
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Subject: using chrome

another thing i have just noticed and its in jaws 16 and 17, the jaws
curcer does not work. don't know if there is a fix for this or not.

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Re: Using thunderbird with jfw 17

Adam Morris <lists@...>
 

I'm having a problem where messages sometimes open but don't read.
If you press insert z quickly twice and set it to on for all applications the messages read.
You need to do this for each message that doesn't read.
Have reported to FS through my dealer.

On 06-Nov-15 06:17, Robert Logue via Jfw wrote:
My Thunderbird and Jaws tips.

View menu>toolbars:
Uncheck Mail Toolbar and Quick Filter Bar. They can get in the way.

Layout sub menu
Classic View checked
Wide View not checked
Vertical View not checked
Folder Pane checked
Folder Pane Columns not checked
Message Pane F8 not checked

NOTE: Message Pane is a preview. Pressing enter on a message in a list always opens it.

Tools>Options>Display>Advanced Tab
Open messages in:
An existing message window radio button checked
Reading
Close message window/tab on move or delete check box not checked
Note: Close message window/tab is optional. Try different settings if you wish.


HTH

Bob




----- On 10/12/2015 11:29 AM, Mark Furness via Jfw wrote:
Hi,
I just installed Mozilla Thunderbird 38 on my win 10 machine.

Does anybody have any tips for using it? For example, I can’t seem to get to my in box for the account I have configured to read mail..

Thanks!
Mark


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Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Peter Tesar
 

Thanks Steve, and also to others who provided tips.

I now have a better understanding of how to tweak WORDusing the ribbon menu.

Peter T

On 2015-11-05 12:17 PM, Steve Griffiths via Jfw wrote:
Hi Peter,

You can change Word so that it opens on an empty document as it used to, it's just a separate setting from the Ctrl + O one.

It's also in the Options dialogue, on the General page which has focus when you open it. The quickest way to get to the setting, called "Show the start screen when this application opens", is to Shift + Tab three times. Uncheck it and you're sorted.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar via Jfw
Sent: 05 November 2015 01:53
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Hello,

The response Steve gave is exactly what I wanted. To bring up an edit box into which I can type a text file name. This is a file that was not recently opened by WORD.

Steve has 1 mistake. the"alt, f" should be alt together with f.

To get to the WORD Options:
alt+f
t
arrow down to the "save" tab
tab 7 times to back stage
activate the check box
ESCAPE (to quit) or ENTER (to save settings and quit).

I still get:
back stage view no open document
when starting WORD.
I have to press ESCAPE to get:
document 1, print view, edit

Then the ctrl+o brings up the familiar File Name edit box.

Peter T

On 2015-11-03 4:52 AM, Steve Griffiths via Jfw wrote:
Carolyn and others,

By default the Ctrl-O keystroke in Word 2013 takes you to the backstage view, but you can turn that off so that it opens the familiar Open dialogue instead.

You need to open the Word Options dialogue with Alt, F, T. DownArrow to Save, then Tab to "Don’t show the Backstage when opening or saving files". Press Space to check it and Enter to close the dialogue.

You should now be able to use Ctrl-O as you used to in earlier versions of Word. If you want to use the Backstage view, you can still get to it with Alt, F, O.

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: 02 November 2015 22:29
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Back with Office 2003, I could be in what they then called Microsoft Word, and hit Control O, then shift tab to the left, and I kept what was then My Documents as the directory of choice. I could arrow up and down through the thing, hit enter on anything I wanted. Every now and then, my husband would get another directory on there, and I can't remember what I did to finagle My Documents to be the one right to the left. Yes. With Word and Documents, I can get the last documents I have opened, just see no way to full access other than just go to Documents. Also, when sending attachments, I could do that too, which was way cool.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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Mcginnis, Barbara via Jfw
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2015 2:37 PM
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Cc: Mcginnis, Barbara <barbara.mcginnis@dhhs.nc.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Office 2013 has a backstage view. Ours keeps the last 25 documents that have been opened in the backstage view. Assuming your documents are saved in documents, I usually press Control plus O, then shift plus tab one time and use my up arrow to find my document and press Enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw [mailto:jfw@lists.the-jdh.com]
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 1:42 PM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Do you mean a document list, containing all your Word documents? There was an old DOS command, a variation of the DIR" command but I haven't used it in years. I think it was dir > filename.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 4:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Peter, here are some I have in a document file. I still hope we can find out how to get a document directory from a word document.


In Microsoft Word, for count, like Word Count, line count, etc, hit Alt T, W, then arrow up for information.

For font, hit Alt H, f, N

For Mailing, Alt M, E for envelopes and Alt M L for labeling.

For margins, hit Alt P, M, A.

For tabs, Alt O, T.

For word definitions: Shift F7, then F6. It will tell you to put in your word. Then tab to Thesarus English US. Enter, tab until you start getting the definitions. This one is a little tricky and requires maneuvering, but is worth it to find out what stuff means.

Here's what Trudy sent on key strokes:

I don't know your level of computer knowledge and am not trying to insult anyone, but thought that these shortcuts, if you didn't know them already, would be useful information for those of you who didn't know them already.
If you do know them, but have friends who don't, please pass them on.
Or, if you didn't know them yourself and have friends who don't know them, pass them on to those friends too.

Trudy
15 Keyboard Shortcuts You Probably Don't Know
Navigate your computer more easily with the push of a few buttons By
Amanda Greene Posted December 15, 2010 from WomansDay.com
Photo: © Thinkstock
Most expert computer users know the basic keyboard shortcuts, like pressing Control (Ctrl) + P on a PC to print a document. But did you know there are plenty of other useful—not to mention pretty darn cool—key combinations out there? From instantly zooming in to a larger view to quickly closing your browser window, these shortcuts will put the World Wide Web and more at your fingertips—because every second counts.
1. Add a Bookmark
Tab your new favorite website for easy access by bookmarking the page with the following quick trick.
PC: Ctrl + D
Mac: Apple key (see right) + D
2. Delete Forever When you know
you want to nix a file forever—instead of sending it to clog up the recycling bin first––tap the keys below.
PC: Shift + Delete
3. Close Browser Whether your boss walks up while you're reading gossip blogs or your husband comes in the room while you're buying him a gift, close your browser, stat, with this shortcut.
PC: Alt + F4
Mac: Ctrl + Q
4. Show Desktop
If you have lots of windows open on your computer and you want quick
access to your desktop—or a super-quick way to hide your work—hit the
following keys.> PC: Window key (see right) + D
Mac: F11

5. Find Files or Folders
Forget painstakingly searching all of your folders to find one file. The shortcut below will do the searching for you.
PC: Window key + F
Mac: Apple key (see right) + F
6. Change Zoom Level
Whether you're working on the Web or in a word processing program, zoom in or out with this command.
PC: Ctrl + scroll mouse wheel
Mac: Apple key + plus sign; Apple key + minus sign
7. Reopen Previous Tab in Browser
Have you ever accidentally closed the browser tab you were looking at and had to spend time backtracking to find it again? The shortcut below will restore that page to you almost instantly.
PC: Ctrl + Shift + T
Mac: Apple key + Z
8. Switch Between Open Programs
Navigating between open screens can get confusing. Make it easy to move among all your programs with this quick trick.
PC: Alt + Tab
Mac: Apple key + Tab
9. Take a Screen Shot Capture an image of what you're working on instantly with a screen grab—it's particularly useful for Web pages you can't copy and paste.
PC: Print Screen (then paste [Ctrl + V] into a Word document)
Mac: Apple key + Shift + 3
10. Refresh a Webpage
Whether you're waiting for a new email to arrive or the latest news story to pop up, easily refresh your screen using the keys below.
PC: F5, or Ctrl + R
Mac: Apple key + R
11. Go to a Previous Location in Browser
Time travel with the neat shortcut below, which lets you quickly go back to the webpage you were looking at before your current one.
PC: Alt + ←
Mac: Apple key + [
12. Spelling/Grammar Check
No more excuses: Perfect spelling and grammar is just one keystroke away.
PC or Mac: F7
13. Add "http://www" to Your Browser's Address Bar
The quickest route to your online destination? Just type in the name of the webpage you'd like to go to (for example, type "Google"), then press the following keys to add the "http://www." to the beginning and ".com" to the end.
PC: Ctrl + Enter
Mac: Apple key + Enter
14. Select the Address Bar
When you want to quickly type a new URL into your browser, the shortcut below will easily select the address bar for you, so you can start typing without moving your mouse.
PC: Ctrl + L, or F6
Mac: Apple key + L
15. Launch the Windows Start Menu
Just tap the keys below for an easy way to view your Start Menu options.
PC: Window key, or Ctrl + Esc
JAWS STROKES

Mouse Over – Control enter, enter
Signature in Windows Mail – Control, Insert, Enter,



Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Thanks Ann,

I'm making headwaywith WORD 2013.

Your suggestion to get to save-as by using the old:
alt+F then a
only gets me to the save-as tab. Inow know that I have to select a button for the folder and that brings up the edit box.

The F12 gets me directly into the edit box where I can type thepath/fileName.

I still don't know how to open a file from inside WORD. The ctrl+o gets me the open tab. Only recent documents are shown.

I need an edit box to type the path/file so I can open a text file from within WORD.
Existing WORD files can be opened by selecting them from the directory tree.

The large WORD hot keys file is a problem, maybe the "protected view".

I used F12 to save it as a RTF and text file. It will take time to go through it.

Thanks again.

Peter T

On 2015-11-01 9:35 AM, Ann Byrne via Jfw wrote:
If you remember the commands from Word 2003, you can use most of them.
But you can't open a menu and select one. So to get to the format
paragraph dialog, you have to type alt-o, then p. To get to 'change
case', it's alt-o, then e. Save-as is alt-f, then a, or f12.

Good luck! the transition is a stinker, but eventually it's manageable.
At 07:05 AM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
You can change the font by pressing Alt-O-F or Shift Control-F or,
best of all, Control D, which always has been delete - go figure. I
learned the second and third commands from listers. I too jumped
from
2003 to 2013. Actually, I had a brief stint with 2010, which is
about the same as 2013.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Tesar via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 9:55 PM
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Cc: Peter Tesar <ptesar@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Just switched to WORD 2013, any more hot keys suggestions?

Hello,

I just switched from WORD 2003 to 2013. The menu bar has been
changed to a ribbon menu for some years now. These ribbons are
proving to be an initial hurdle. I'm tabbing and arrowing in a
fruitless search for what I want.

When the ribbons first came out, Ihad heard that you could use some
of the old Menu Bar hot keys, but that isn't exactly true.

Alt+F doesn't bring up the old File menu.

Some of you provided the hot keys for changing the font.

How do I do a "save as"? That was in the File menu.
If I do a "alt+f a" I get a save as tab. There is no edit field.

How do I open a file? The ctrl+o gives me the open tab and recently
opened documents.
There is no edit field to type in the drive, path file-name that I
used to do.

I got started by using the tree to select an existing WORD document
It was opened by WORD. I could then open it as a recent document.


I just found the JAWS training, as DAISY books. These can be
downloaded so I downloaded the VirtualRibbonMenus.exe. It is an executable file.
How do I get it into a DAISY book format to transfer to my DAISY player?

Thanks for any help.
Peter T.

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Netflix Does it Again

Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@...>
 

Has anyone on this list noticed that Netflix has changed its face yet again?
Now, I can't easily get to my DVD queue, nor can I search for a specific
title. I only see a whole bunch of "suggestions" for me based on my rating
movies I've previously rented. I don't mind this option, but I'd rather put
in my own choices for future rentals.



If these restrictions and inaccessibilities persist, I'll have to give up
these rental services, but I want to make sure that this is not a JAWS issue
before I make that hasty decision.

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Re: saving an attachment

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Judith. To save an attachment in Outlook Express:

1. Open the message.
2. Tab to the list of attachments.
3. Select the attachment you want to save with the Up and Down Arrows.
4. Press the ALT Key and arrow down to Save Attachments.
5. Tab to the Save Button, and press Enter.

There is also a Browse button to select where you want the attachment to be saved to before you press the Save Button.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: saving an attachment


Hi Tim, I'm using Outlook Express.

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:22 PM
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Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Re: saving an attachment

Hi Judith,

What email program are you using? Each has its own steps for saving an
attachment.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:10 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: judith bron
Subject: saving an attachment

Since upgrading to the latest Jaws 16 I haven't saved a music attachment.
I
just tried saving one the way I always did and it came with the message
from
the email. How do I save it so I just get the attached song? Thanks, JB

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Re: saving an attachment

Tim Ford
 

Darn, it has been a long time since I used Outlook Express, still my favorite email program, and I cannot remember clearly.

Based upon a vague recollection, use insert and the letter a to open the attachment box. Arrow key to the file you want to save, and press the applications (or shift f10) and arrow down to the "save target" option and press enter. That should take you into a standard Windows Explorer format and from there you just select the folder you want, either by entering the full path, or using the browse link to navigate to the folder you want.

If I have things wrong above, someone else on this list will no doubt know and correct any errors.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:38 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: judith bron
Subject: RE: saving an attachment

Hi Tim, I'm using Outlook Express.

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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:22 PM
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Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Re: saving an attachment

Hi Judith,

What email program are you using? Each has its own steps for saving an
attachment.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:10 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: judith bron
Subject: saving an attachment

Since upgrading to the latest Jaws 16 I haven't saved a music attachment. I
just tried saving one the way I always did and it came with the message from
the email. How do I save it so I just get the attached song? Thanks, JB

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Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Thanks.

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:07 PM
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Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Yes, Google Chrome works just as well in Windows 7. Take care.


-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Jarreau via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:00 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Does Chrome work with Win7?

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:01 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Hi there,
Also, I am using Windows 10 now, but It worked great with Windows 8.1 as
well.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 5:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

16 and above.

On 05/11/2015, Stan Holdeman via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
What versions of jaws and Windows must be running for Chrome to work
so well?

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

I totally agree with you. I use it as my default brouzer for more than
a week now, and so far know problems. When downloading files its a
little different from explorer but stil very manageable. And the best
brouzer to log into banking websites. The android version is also
super. The only thing I'm very sad about is that supernova don't
support it well yet it seems.

On 05/11/2015, Debbie April Yuille via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I look forward to hearing it.

Debbie
Skype: apparating.girl

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Moore via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, 5 November 2015 8:50 PM
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Cc: David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
Subject: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Hi all.
I have been experimenting with Google Chrome Browser, and I have
found that it is very accessible and easy to use. More than that, I
can open the same web site in half the time as with IE or Firefox. It
never crashes, and it is more stable than any other browser. It is
the best browser when it comes to streaming videos and other media by
far. The video never pauses for example.
In IE, the same video pauses a few times for a few seconds. Also,
Google Chrome is the easiest browser to use. Yes, I am not kidding.
Simply press enter on the browser, and the home page opens. I have
mine set to Google of course. Now, just press alt and the screen
reader will say chrome button.
If
you press down arrow, every setting and menu you will ever need is in
that one vertical column. The history, delete history, book marks,
are all in that one vertical menu just by pressing the alt key on the
home page. All navigation JAWS short cut keys work in Google Chrome.
I have not found anything yet that is not accessible. Also, every
JAWS key command works in Chrome just like in IE. You can just press
alt + D for the address bar for example. I will continue to play
around with Google Chrome a little more, and I will be ready to do an
Audio tutorial for you guys. You will not believe just how much
better Google Chrome is over any other browser. You will hear it with
your own ears when I send you the tutorial probably by Friday. I know
some of you will use Chrome as your default browser. God bless and
have a great night. Talk to all of you soon.
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Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Ron Worley Home <ron65@...>
 

You can also find "Hide Empty Drives" in a tree view on the view tab of any
folder options Window for windows 7. You can get to this folder Options
menu by typing folder options in the windows search box. You will land on
the General tab first.

Be careful what else you check or uncheck in this area. When I set up
computers for our veterans, I always do the following so JAWS reads well in
folder navigation.

Before you start the steps below, you may want to change some of the view
options that there in that folder. I usually tell the titles in all my
folders to show in a list and not several columns. That is under the view
option on the menu bar or the ribbon.

Here we go!
For Windows 7
1. Open My Documents folder
2. Press alt T to open the tools menu.
3. Up arrow twice to land on the Folder options and press enter.
4. Press control T to change to the View Tag.
5. Now tab a couple times to place focus on the tree view.
6. Uncheck the first five items in that list. If you use J-say for Dragon
Naturally Speaking, then you will need to keep the classic view option
checked.
7. Arrow down a couple times and you will see the option for hide empty
drives and check it if you don't want to see a drive letter in computer of a
volume label that does not have a SD Card inserted or other internal , card
reader.
8. Continue arrowing down to the next item until you come to Hide Extensions
of Known File Types and make sure it is unchecked. Windows comes checked
like that out of the box. This means you will not see the extensions of a
file name like .docx, txt, etc. Very helpful in smaller folders where the
file names can start with the same names of folders and you wish to know if
it is a file or folder.
9. The last thing I uncheck is Show pop-up descriptions for folder and
desktop items.
10. I then want to save these changes to show in all my folder views so I
shift tab two times to the Reset folders button in windows 8 or something
similar in windows 7.
11. Press enter twice; once to start the option and the second time to agree
to change all folders to look like this one.
12. Now tab to the ok button and enter.

Now when you enter on a folder name, it won't say c colon backslash bla bla
bla before it says the name of the first title in the folder! Also, If you
are several folders deep, you will only hear the folders name spoken of the
drive you move to when you press the backspace to move up one level in your
list of folders.

For windows 8
1. Press the start menu and type "folder Options" in the windows search.
2. Press enter on the folder options choice
3. Now follow the steps above starting with number 4.

Hope this helps your JAWS speak better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 6:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.; 'Soronel Haetir'
Cc: Bill White; Jim Hamilton
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Hide Empty Drive is under Control Panel / Folder Options / View Tab.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Jim Hamilton via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'Soronel Haetir'" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>; "'The Jaws for Windows
support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Jim Hamilton" <jim.hamilton@rogers.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.


The "Hide empty drives" feature can be turned off; but, I am not sure
where to do that.

Jim H

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From: Soronel Haetir [mailto:soronel.haetir@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Differences: Win 10 on 2 computers, no DVD drive displayed.

Is there actually a disk in the drive? Many systems are set to hide
empty drives.

On 11/1/15, Ann Byrne via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Try typing into the search box:
d:

See if windows can find it.

Or go to run, which is still windows-r and type in the letter of the
DVD drive--presumably but not certainly d:.

Good luck!
At 05:53 PM 11/1/2015, you wrote:
Hello,

I now have Windows 10 and the latest JAWS 17 installedon 2 computers.

On the desktop, "This PC" displays the local drives. On 1 computer,
the DVD drive is displayed while on the other it is not.

I cannot access a DVD if it is not displayed in "This PC".

The other problem is that, since upgrading to Windows 10, the auto
play no longer works on both computers.

The:
use auto play for all media ...
is checked.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Peter T.
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Re: saving an attachment

judith bron
 

Hi Tim, I'm using Outlook Express.

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Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:22 PM
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Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Re: saving an attachment

Hi Judith,

What email program are you using? Each has its own steps for saving an
attachment.

Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:10 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: judith bron
Subject: saving an attachment

Since upgrading to the latest Jaws 16 I haven't saved a music attachment. I
just tried saving one the way I always did and it came with the message from
the email. How do I save it so I just get the attached song? Thanks, JB

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Re: saving an attachment

Tim Ford
 

Hi Judith,

What email program are you using? Each has its own steps for saving an attachment.

Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: judith bron via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 5:10 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: judith bron
Subject: saving an attachment

Since upgrading to the latest Jaws 16 I haven't saved a music attachment. I
just tried saving one the way I always did and it came with the message from
the email. How do I save it so I just get the attached song? Thanks, JB

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saving an attachment

judith bron
 

Since upgrading to the latest Jaws 16 I haven't saved a music attachment. I
just tried saving one the way I always did and it came with the message from
the email. How do I save it so I just get the attached song? Thanks, JB

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Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

Thanks, good to know; Gomer the Guru recommended it.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:21 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Hi Carolyn,
With Windows 10 and JAWS 17, Chrome is just as accessible as Firefox. It
has come a long way. Give it a try. Take care and have a great day.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:07 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: Google Chrome is totally accessible

Back when I had XP and JAWS 13, Chrome did not work.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 10:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

i just started using it with windows 7 64bit and jaws 17. also works with
jaws 16. only have one problem so far. when i go to amc.com there is a
sign in link that doesn't show up as a link in krome. it does in firefox
and IE. other than that it seams to be running pretty smoothly.

On 11/5/2015 9:46 AM, ratshtron via Jfw wrote:
its great under windows 7 32 bit. i kept having trouble with firefox
from the last update with jaws so i switched. internet explorer got
very sluggish with jaws so i started using firefox but now google
crome is much better with jaws.


Legend has it that on Thursday 11/5/2015 09:31 AM, Marshall Scott via
Jfw said:
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How accessible is Chrome under Windows 7?
Thanks,
Marshall

On Nov 5, 2015, at 2:49 AM, David Moore via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Hi all.
I have been experimenting with Google Chrome Browser, and I have
found that it is very accessible and easy to use. More than that, I
can open the same web site in half the time as with IE or Firefox. It
never crashes, and it is more stable than any other browser. It is
the best browser when it comes to streaming videos and other media by
far. The video never pauses for example. In IE, the same video pauses
a few times for a few seconds. Also, Google Chrome is the easiest
browser to use. Yes, I am not kidding. Simply press enter on the
browser, and the home page opens. I have mine set to Google of
course. Now, just press alt and the screen reader will say chrome
button. If you press down arrow, every setting and menu you will ever
need is in that one vertical column. The history, delete history,
book marks, are all in that one vertical menu just by pressing the
alt key on the home page. All navigation JAWS short cut keys work in
Google Chrome. I have not found anything yet that is n ot
accessible. Also, every JAWS key command works in Chrome just like
in IE. You can just press alt + D for the address bar for example. I
will continue to play around with Google Chrome a little more, and I
will be ready to do an Audio tutorial for you guys. You will not
believe just how much better Google Chrome is over any other browser.
You will hear it with your own ears when I send you the tutorial
probably by Friday. I know some of you will use Chrome as your
default browser. God bless and have a great night. Talk to all of you
soon.
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