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Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

Gary King
 

Did you include anything about the Chrome Bookmark Manager in your tutorial? I haven't quite figured out their organization methods yet. I had my bookmarks organized in submenus in IE11.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless


Hi all,
I will post a link to an audio tutorial for Google Chrome with in the next two hours. I will demonstrate how it works on many web sites, and take everyone through the Chrome menu. I noticed the difference with my mobile Facebook account as well, and I like the way Chrome renders the Face Book mobile sight much better than in IE or Firefox. Take care all.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

This morning, Chrome ended its strike, and decided it would open. So
it's not totally useless. My comments previously had nothing to do with
accessibility, and everything to do with the fact that the program
refused to open last night. When it finally started (after I went into
task manager and killed two Chrome Processes that were stuck open), it
was hit or miss; sometimes I'd have to try two or three times before it
would decide to open. Finally, on about the eighth attempt, I started
getting questions and prompts from Chrome, and then it decided it would
function.

So now that it opens pretty consistently, it's not totally useless.
Honestly, though, since I have installed Adblock as an add-on to Firefox
it seems faster than Chrome.

To Adrian's points, I'm not having any issues with Combo boxes at all in
Chrome. For the Save Link As option, I route JAWS to PC (even though the
JAWS cursor reads nothing), and then right-clicked, and I could save the
item linked to. And what I was saying in the first part of my message
last night was that the program installed without asking anything. It
didn't ask if I wanted it to be my default browser; it just made itself so.

What I found most interesting (and helpful) is Chrome's treatment of the
mobile version of Facebook. This is going to sound weird, but for
instance, in Facebook mobile, if I'm using Chrome I can change my
newsfeed between Most Recent and Top Stories. Typically, with other
browsers I have to go to the full Facebook site for this option.

I find that Chrome reads a lot more useless information like "article"
"article end" "story". And all of these items are on separate lines, so
there ends up being a lot more arrowing down.

I'm not sure I'd make it my default, but I may install Adblock for it as
well and see if it improves the speed.

Having said all that, I have an I5 desktop with 8 GB of RAM, so even IE
does not feel sluggish, and since I installed Adblock in Firefox,
Firefox stopped crashing too.

I'm keeping Chrome for now, but at this point Firefox is still my
default browser.

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Re: Chrome is Useless!

ratshtron <northstar1950@...>
 

i am using jaws 15 with crome and i do not have any trouble doing what i need to do with the internet.


Legend has it that on Wednesday 11/11/2015 10:53 AM, Brad Martin via Jfw said:
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You are correct; I am using JAWS 15.



On 11/11/2015 10:23 AM, Gary King via Jfw wrote:
Brad,
When I open Google Chrome using the latest version of JAWS 16, I find that Google Chrome settings are loaded. What version of JAWS are you using? I think JAWS used Firefox settings in the past, but now has support for Chrome.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:01 PM
Subject: Chrome is Useless!


Curious about all the hubbub on this list (I hadn't read my Email in a week), I installed Google Chrome. Here are my observations:

1. Chrome never asked me a question, never asked if I wanted it to be my default browser, made itself my default--at least on the account under which I installed it, but otherwise was OK.

2. The first time it opened, it felt remarkably like Firefox, except of course for the single menu, which was fine.

3. Pressing Insert Q told me that the settings JAWS had loaded were for Firefox, although I was using Chrome. Kind of interesting.

4. Now that I've told Firefox to resume being the default browser, Chrome can't decide whether it wants to open on my Admin account or not. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't.

5. On my personal user account, Chrome will not open. Period. Makes it kind of hard to browse the web. Right click. Double Click. Enter. Nothing.

So I would say the one time it worked, it was fine, although it actually felt slower than Firefox for me, but I didn't get much chance to play with it before it went on strike. I'll keep it for another day and see if it decides to work again, but otherwise, I'm trashing it. I don't need the dead weight.



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Re: Caret Browsing

Soronel Haetir
 

If in Firefox you are talking about the "always use cursor keys to
navigate within pages" option I have had that checked for years and
not noticed any problems.

On 11/11/15, Bill White via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
I've tried using Caret Browsing, and at times, it gets in the way of
navigation and JAWS speech. I can't speak for anybody else, and I've never
heard anyone else talk about using it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:46 AM
Subject: Caret Browsing


Does Caret Browsing have any affect on Jaws or other screen readers? IE,

Firefox, and Chrome have this option. Sometimes I turn it on when I need

to turn off the virtual cursor on a challenging page. Is it OK to have
Caret Browsing
all the time?



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Re: Creating a short cut to open a program not on your desktop

Adrian Spratt
 

David, I'm not sure which version of Windows your instructions apply to. here are the steps for creating a shortcut in Windows 7, where it's a lot easier.

1. Press the Windows key.

2. up arrow once and press enter on all apps.

3. Press the up or down arrow once to get into the programs list, then use first-letter navigation to locate the program that you want to set the short cut for.

4. If the program name is announced along with the word "closed," press right arrow to open it.

5. There may be several options here, such as uninstall. The program itself will have the name of the program without any additional wording or letters.

6. Once you have focus on the program, press control-enter to bring up preferences. In every instance I've encountered, you will land in the shortcut dialog.

7. tab to the edit field and enter your choice of shortcut. If you want a shortcut that includes the control and alt keys, just enter the letter. Otherwise, press the entire combination, such as control-shift-c.

8. No need to tab to the OK button. Just press enter to exit the dialog.

Now you have a shortcut that will work from anywhere in your computer, unless you're in an application that has assigned that same shortcut to an application-specific function. For example, my IE shortcut is control-alt-I, which doesn't work in MS Word because that key combination performs a Word function.

It's even easier when the program has an icon on the desktop. Skip steps 1 through 5. Just place focus on the icon, press control-enter (step 6) and pick up with step 7.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:38 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Creating a short cut to open a program not on your desktop

Hi all.
I want to tell all of you the procedure to set a short cut to open a program that is not on the desktop or pinned to the start area. You can create a short cut to any program on your computer. Here is what you do.
First, press the Windows key to open the start area. up arrow once and press enter on all apps. Arrow to the program that you want to set the short cut for. If it says collapsed, press enter to open it. Now, arrow down to the program and press the applications key. Next, arrow down to open file location and press enter. Press the applications key. Now, up arrow once and enter on properties. Next, tab to the shortcut field and put in a letter. The alt and ctrl are automatically added to the short cut. Just tab to okay and press enter. Now, you can open that program with alt + ctrl + the letter without that program pinned anywhere. If the program is just on your computer, this way to create a short cut will work. Take care and I hope you enjoy this.
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Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

David Moore
 

Hi,
Yes, Chrome works so much better with JAWS 16 and even better with JAWS 17. To save a pod cast, for example, it is so much easier. Just press enter on the link of what you want to save, and a dialog will immediately show and there will be a open button and a save button. Arrow down on the save button to go to save as and press enter. It will save anywhere on your computer. You do not have to press the ctrl n like in IE. Take care and I will have an audio tutorial in two hours posted to the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

Brad,

Thanks for the "save target as" suggestion, which would never have occurred to me. I'll try it the next time I need to perform this action. Another lister made a second suggestion off-list, so I have some testing to do. I'll report back with any success.

It looks like JAWS 15 is the culprit for your problems last night. FS touts specific improvements for each new version of JAWS, but many of the true improvements are not advertised. It's why I keep up with my SMA, which I know is hard for many people.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

This morning, Chrome ended its strike, and decided it would open. So
it's not totally useless. My comments previously had nothing to do with
accessibility, and everything to do with the fact that the program
refused to open last night. When it finally started (after I went into
task manager and killed two Chrome Processes that were stuck open), it
was hit or miss; sometimes I'd have to try two or three times before it
would decide to open. Finally, on about the eighth attempt, I started
getting questions and prompts from Chrome, and then it decided it would
function.

So now that it opens pretty consistently, it's not totally useless.
Honestly, though, since I have installed Adblock as an add-on to Firefox
it seems faster than Chrome.

To Adrian's points, I'm not having any issues with Combo boxes at all in
Chrome. For the Save Link As option, I route JAWS to PC (even though the
JAWS cursor reads nothing), and then right-clicked, and I could save the
item linked to. And what I was saying in the first part of my message
last night was that the program installed without asking anything. It
didn't ask if I wanted it to be my default browser; it just made itself so.

What I found most interesting (and helpful) is Chrome's treatment of the
mobile version of Facebook. This is going to sound weird, but for
instance, in Facebook mobile, if I'm using Chrome I can change my
newsfeed between Most Recent and Top Stories. Typically, with other
browsers I have to go to the full Facebook site for this option.

I find that Chrome reads a lot more useless information like "article"
"article end" "story". And all of these items are on separate lines, so
there ends up being a lot more arrowing down.

I'm not sure I'd make it my default, but I may install Adblock for it as
well and see if it improves the speed.

Having said all that, I have an I5 desktop with 8 GB of RAM, so even IE
does not feel sluggish, and since I installed Adblock in Firefox,
Firefox stopped crashing too.

I'm keeping Chrome for now, but at this point Firefox is still my
default browser.

--
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Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

David Moore
 

Hi all,
I will post a link to an audio tutorial for Google Chrome with in the next two hours. I will demonstrate how it works on many web sites, and take everyone through the Chrome menu. I noticed the difference with my mobile Facebook account as well, and I like the way Chrome renders the Face Book mobile sight much better than in IE or Firefox. Take care all.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

This morning, Chrome ended its strike, and decided it would open. So
it's not totally useless. My comments previously had nothing to do with
accessibility, and everything to do with the fact that the program
refused to open last night. When it finally started (after I went into
task manager and killed two Chrome Processes that were stuck open), it
was hit or miss; sometimes I'd have to try two or three times before it
would decide to open. Finally, on about the eighth attempt, I started
getting questions and prompts from Chrome, and then it decided it would
function.

So now that it opens pretty consistently, it's not totally useless.
Honestly, though, since I have installed Adblock as an add-on to Firefox
it seems faster than Chrome.

To Adrian's points, I'm not having any issues with Combo boxes at all in
Chrome. For the Save Link As option, I route JAWS to PC (even though the
JAWS cursor reads nothing), and then right-clicked, and I could save the
item linked to. And what I was saying in the first part of my message
last night was that the program installed without asking anything. It
didn't ask if I wanted it to be my default browser; it just made itself so.

What I found most interesting (and helpful) is Chrome's treatment of the
mobile version of Facebook. This is going to sound weird, but for
instance, in Facebook mobile, if I'm using Chrome I can change my
newsfeed between Most Recent and Top Stories. Typically, with other
browsers I have to go to the full Facebook site for this option.

I find that Chrome reads a lot more useless information like "article"
"article end" "story". And all of these items are on separate lines, so
there ends up being a lot more arrowing down.

I'm not sure I'd make it my default, but I may install Adblock for it as
well and see if it improves the speed.

Having said all that, I have an I5 desktop with 8 GB of RAM, so even IE
does not feel sluggish, and since I installed Adblock in Firefox,
Firefox stopped crashing too.

I'm keeping Chrome for now, but at this point Firefox is still my
default browser.

--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>
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Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

Brad Martin
 

I think JAWS 15 is the reason that Insert Q says Firefox settings are loaded, but I don't think it had anything to do with Chrome refusing to open. The "problem" with having a fast multicore processor (if it can be called a problem) is that if a process gets locked up, you can't tell because the computer doesn't necessarily get sluggish as a result.

Ironically, maybe the reason I'm not having the problems with Combo boxes that you are is that I'm using Firefox scripts (with JAWS 15) instead of whatever Chrome uses in later JAWS versions. Honestly, combo boxes seem to work normally for me in Chrome.

Brad

On 11/11/2015 1:52 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
Brad,

Thanks for the "save target as" suggestion, which would never have occurred to me. I'll try it the next time I need to perform this action. Another lister made a second suggestion off-list, so I have some testing to do. I'll report back with any success.

It looks like JAWS 15 is the culprit for your problems last night. FS touts specific improvements for each new version of JAWS, but many of the true improvements are not advertised. It's why I keep up with my SMA, which I know is hard for many people.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

This morning, Chrome ended its strike, and decided it would open. So
it's not totally useless. My comments previously had nothing to do with
accessibility, and everything to do with the fact that the program
refused to open last night. When it finally started (after I went into
task manager and killed two Chrome Processes that were stuck open), it
was hit or miss; sometimes I'd have to try two or three times before it
would decide to open. Finally, on about the eighth attempt, I started
getting questions and prompts from Chrome, and then it decided it would
function.

So now that it opens pretty consistently, it's not totally useless.
Honestly, though, since I have installed Adblock as an add-on to Firefox
it seems faster than Chrome.

To Adrian's points, I'm not having any issues with Combo boxes at all in
Chrome. For the Save Link As option, I route JAWS to PC (even though the
JAWS cursor reads nothing), and then right-clicked, and I could save the
item linked to. And what I was saying in the first part of my message
last night was that the program installed without asking anything. It
didn't ask if I wanted it to be my default browser; it just made itself so.

What I found most interesting (and helpful) is Chrome's treatment of the
mobile version of Facebook. This is going to sound weird, but for
instance, in Facebook mobile, if I'm using Chrome I can change my
newsfeed between Most Recent and Top Stories. Typically, with other
browsers I have to go to the full Facebook site for this option.

I find that Chrome reads a lot more useless information like "article"
"article end" "story". And all of these items are on separate lines, so
there ends up being a lot more arrowing down.

I'm not sure I'd make it my default, but I may install Adblock for it as
well and see if it improves the speed.

Having said all that, I have an I5 desktop with 8 GB of RAM, so even IE
does not feel sluggish, and since I installed Adblock in Firefox,
Firefox stopped crashing too.

I'm keeping Chrome for now, but at this point Firefox is still my
default browser.
--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>
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Re: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

Adrian Spratt
 

Brad,

Thanks for the "save target as" suggestion, which would never have occurred to me. I'll try it the next time I need to perform this action. Another lister made a second suggestion off-list, so I have some testing to do. I'll report back with any success.

It looks like JAWS 15 is the culprit for your problems last night. FS touts specific improvements for each new version of JAWS, but many of the true improvements are not advertised. It's why I keep up with my SMA, which I know is hard for many people.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Brad Martin
Subject: Correction: Chrome Is Not Totally Useless

This morning, Chrome ended its strike, and decided it would open. So
it's not totally useless. My comments previously had nothing to do with
accessibility, and everything to do with the fact that the program
refused to open last night. When it finally started (after I went into
task manager and killed two Chrome Processes that were stuck open), it
was hit or miss; sometimes I'd have to try two or three times before it
would decide to open. Finally, on about the eighth attempt, I started
getting questions and prompts from Chrome, and then it decided it would
function.

So now that it opens pretty consistently, it's not totally useless.
Honestly, though, since I have installed Adblock as an add-on to Firefox
it seems faster than Chrome.

To Adrian's points, I'm not having any issues with Combo boxes at all in
Chrome. For the Save Link As option, I route JAWS to PC (even though the
JAWS cursor reads nothing), and then right-clicked, and I could save the
item linked to. And what I was saying in the first part of my message
last night was that the program installed without asking anything. It
didn't ask if I wanted it to be my default browser; it just made itself so.

What I found most interesting (and helpful) is Chrome's treatment of the
mobile version of Facebook. This is going to sound weird, but for
instance, in Facebook mobile, if I'm using Chrome I can change my
newsfeed between Most Recent and Top Stories. Typically, with other
browsers I have to go to the full Facebook site for this option.

I find that Chrome reads a lot more useless information like "article"
"article end" "story". And all of these items are on separate lines, so
there ends up being a lot more arrowing down.

I'm not sure I'd make it my default, but I may install Adblock for it as
well and see if it improves the speed.

Having said all that, I have an I5 desktop with 8 GB of RAM, so even IE
does not feel sluggish, and since I installed Adblock in Firefox,
Firefox stopped crashing too.

I'm keeping Chrome for now, but at this point Firefox is still my
default browser.

--
Brad Martin
brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org>
My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals:
facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>
My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>
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Re: Chrome and combo boxes

Adrian Spratt
 

Thanks, Andre. The next time I'm at a combo box, I'll try spacebar to get in and escape to get out. As you know, there are different kinds of combo boxes that behave differently with JAWS.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:36 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: Chrome and combo boxes

I just hit the spacebar to open the combo list. Hit enter on what I want or
escape to exit. That's what I have seen on my machine. The worst issue
Ihave with Chrome is that it is slow. Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 7:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Chrome and combo boxes

Alt-down arrow does nothing as a first key combination in the combo box I
just tried. It doesn't work until I first press enter. I handle combo boxes
by habit, so I can't be sure of this, but I think I always have to press
enter first and then alt-down arrow. I'll be curious how anyone using Chrome
handles combo boxes.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: Chrome and combo boxes

Alt-down arrow is supposed to open a combo box. I wonder if you opened it
that way if the behavior would be different. Probably not, but it's worth a
try??? (LOL) At 04:41 AM 11/11/2015, you wrote:
Hi. While browsing with Chrome, I'm having difficulty exiting combo
boxes while preserving my choices. With IE, and I think also Firefox, I
usually (1) press enter, then (2) alt-down arrow, then
(3) arrow down to my choice, (4) keep focus there and (5) press alt-up
arrow. Step 5 preserves my choice and takes me out of the box.

With Chrome, step 5 doesn't work. Instead, I need to press enter on my
choice. However, I'm still in the combo box. Alt-up arrow doesn't take
me out, or if it does, I lose my choice. In one case, the wrong choice
is shown.

Just now, pressing enter on my choice and then tabbing to the next
field took me out of the combo box into the next field. Is this the
only way of exiting a combo box in Chrome while preserving your choice?
What if there isn't another field? (I haven't been able to test this
possibility yet.)
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Re: Chrome and "save target as"

Adrian Spratt
 

Dennis,

The "save target as" option allows you to save the item that you'd get to from that link without clicking on the link. There are times when it's desirable. I wish I could give you the example I encountered this morning, but the website requires a username and password.

I've yet to download any files while using Chrome. Your observation is interesting, and I certainly haven't encountered path information like that with IE or FF.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:43 AM
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Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Re: Chrome and "save target as"

Hi Adrian,
I'm not clear what you are trying to download when you say the "target of a
link." I tend to think of a link as including the path to a file followed by
the name of the file. So are you wanting to download the "text" of the path
and filename which will be saved as a link in a particular location?

I am curious if you have noticed all the contents of the Chrome download
folder. It appears that when a file is downloaded, the URL where the file
was downloaded from is also saved and listed immediately below the file.
Perhaps this is also done by other browsers, though my versions of IE and
Firefox don't, but both are quite old.
Best,
Dennis

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Subject: RE: Chrome and "save target as"


True. But there are times when the download link can create problems. I
wish I could give the link I encountered this morning as an example, but
it's a password-protected, members-only website. that "save target as"
option in the right mouse click menu has saved my bacon many times.

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:24 AM
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Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: Chrome and "save target as"

When you download with chrome--that is, press enter on the download
link--Chrome doesn't indicate that a file is downloading. Control-j
will tell you that it is, though.
At 05:19 AM 11/11/2015, you wrote:
Now I've just encountered a situation where I wanted to save the
target of a link to my downloads folder. Both IE and Firefox have
this feature. I can't find any sign of it in Chrome. The right-mouse
and application keys produce nothing. Any ideas?
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Creating a short cut to open a program not on your desktop

David Moore
 

Hi all.
I want to tell all of you the procedure to set a short cut to open a program that is not on the desktop or pinned to the start area. You can create a short cut to any program on your computer. Here is what you do.
First, press the Windows key to open the start area. up arrow once and press enter on all apps. Arrow to the program that you want to set the short cut for. If it says collapsed, press enter to open it. Now, arrow down to the program and press the applications key. Next, arrow down to open file location and press enter. Press the applications key. Now, up arrow once and enter on properties. Next, tab to the shortcut field and put in a letter. The alt and ctrl are automatically added to the short cut. Just tab to okay and press enter. Now, you can open that program with alt + ctrl + the letter without that program pinned anywhere. If the program is just on your computer, this way to create a short cut will work. Take care and I hope you enjoy this.
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Re: Caret Browsing

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

I've tried using Caret Browsing, and at times, it gets in the way of navigation and JAWS speech. I can't speak for anybody else, and I've never heard anyone else talk about using it.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:46 AM
Subject: Caret Browsing


Does Caret Browsing have any affect on Jaws or other screen readers? IE, Firefox, and Chrome have this option. Sometimes I turn it on when I need to turn off the virtual cursor on a challenging page. Is it OK to have Caret Browsing
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Re: status line outlook

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

IMAP is like POP 3 something about the way the e-mail is structured.
Outlook has IMAP. I don't know what IMAP stands for. You probably know
POP is post office protocol. I don't think they can work together. In
other words if your web mail is a POP variety, I don't think it can be
directed to Outlook with IMAP. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

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Subject: RE: status line outlook

What's Immap?

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:23 PM
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Cc: Cristóbal
Subject: RE: status line outlook

If you're using imap, set your view to imap

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:18 AM
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Cc: judith bron
Subject: status line outlook

Now that my status line accessed by insert 3 has disappeared, is there
another way to learn how many messages I have in my inbox? Pressing tab
when Outlook is open tells me how many unread messages I have. JB

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Re: instead of social eyes

Tom Cruit
 

d

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:24 AM
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Cc: Kelly Pierce
Subject: Re: instead of social eyes

there is also the Facebook Messenger app for iOS. One can have voice chats with Facebook friends without burning minutes and send loads of direct messages to Facebook friends.

Kelly



On 11/11/15, Kristoffer Gustafsson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi.
I've not got windows 10 yet. just windows 7.
/Kristoffer

2015-11-04 10:48 GMT+01:00, Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>:
Hi.
Before there was social Eyes I could use to chat on facebook.
Now that is no longer available for sale.
Is there something else I can use to chat with friends?
/Kristoffer

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Re: status line outlook

judith bron
 

What's Immap?

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Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:23 PM
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Cc: Cristóbal
Subject: RE: status line outlook

If you're using imap, set your view to imap

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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:18 AM
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Cc: judith bron
Subject: status line outlook

Now that my status line accessed by insert 3 has disappeared, is there
another way to learn how many messages I have in my inbox? Pressing tab
when Outlook is open tells me how many unread messages I have. JB

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Caret Browsing

Robert Logue
 

Does Caret Browsing have any affect on Jaws or other screen readers? IE, Firefox, and Chrome have this option. Sometimes I turn it on when I need to turn off the virtual cursor on a challenging page. Is it OK to have Caret Browsing
all the time?


Re: status line outlook

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, Judith. Try INSERT plus the number eight on the num pad.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

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when Outlook is open tells me how many unread messages I have. JB

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Re: instead of social eyes

Kelly Pierce
 

there is also the Facebook Messenger app for iOS. One can have voice
chats with Facebook friends without burning minutes and send loads of
direct messages to Facebook friends.

Kelly

On 11/11/15, Kristoffer Gustafsson via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Hi.
I've not got windows 10 yet. just windows 7.
/Kristoffer

2015-11-04 10:48 GMT+01:00, Kristoffer Gustafsson <kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>:
Hi.
Before there was social Eyes I could use to chat on facebook.
Now that is no longer available for sale.
Is there something else I can use to chat with friends?
/Kristoffer

--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934

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Re: status line outlook

Cristóbal
 

If you're using imap, set your view to imap

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status line outlook

judith bron
 

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when Outlook is open tells me how many unread messages I have. JB

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