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Accessible Blogging Websites
Laura Shumate
Hi all,
I am new to Jaws 2020. What website is best to start a Blog and what browser works best? -- Laura Shumate larelishumate@gmail.com
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Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Patrick Murphy
Hi guys,
I just tried this option with jaws2020 latest update and a set of headfones (don’t know the make). This might be of some use to someone. I am using windows 10 home edition and jaws2020 latest versions of everything. When I turn on my headfones first, they still cut out, even with jaws set to keep the sound card awake. The only way to have this option actually work for me, is to shutdown jaws2020 and then restart it. After that, everything works fine. However, if I then turn off the headfones and turn them on again, they keep cutting out as if the jaws option is not set. So to summarize: Turn on headfones. Turn off jaws. Restart jaws. Ye!!! Haven’t tried it with speakers, as I have a pare of sony srs x-11. They are absolutely useless, in that they connect to my bluetooth, once every 300 years!!!
Hope this helps someone,
pat
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday 8 July 2020 17:52 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Hi Steven,
Are you asking about audio ducking? If so, read below.
Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
From: Jessica D
I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled.
I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.
Thanks,
Jessica
Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
Bill White
----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Hicks Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:51 AM Subject: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please? I Assume that it is disabled by default?
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Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
Jim Weiss
Paul,
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Actually your battery savings will be minimal. This is documented by Apple as well on their website. The main drain for displaying graphics is the GPU and not the actual display. Turning on screen curtain or screen shade does not shut down the GPU, all of the graphics rendering is still happening, it is just not being displayed. You will save some battery by enabling it, but according to Apple the average user will not even notice the savings. I am also a Mac and iPhone user and have screen curtain enabled on both of my devices almost all of the time and my battery lasts about the exact same. With screen curtain off on my Mac Book I get 8 hours of battery, with it turned on the battery meter still reads 8 hours. Now that 8 hours also depends on what I am doing, reading email and word processing is much less drain than running a Win 10 VM in VMware Fusion. The main reason for screen shade/curtain is privacy. HTH, Jim Jim Weiss “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives” | William A. Foster
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Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
paul lemm
Hi Ashleigh,
No, its nothing like that at all, the main reason for wanting the display constantly off is that on a laptop one of the biggest drains on the battery is the display, since I don’t use it anyway it just makes sense to have it turned off to conserve battery life. The iPhone has a similar function called screen curtain which you can set to be on all the time, it turns the display off which hugely conserves battery life on the phone. I really just wanted this function to make the battery charge last longer when using my laptop, rather than wasting battery life powering a display which I’m not using anyway. Thanks for reaching out though to check I was doing ok, its nice to know people are watching out for each other here, but I’m doing absolutely fine, hope you are too.
Paul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@... to answer this question, okay? Ashleigh Piccinino
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Re: Edge Tutorial?
Patrick Murphy
Hi,
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The only thing i found so far with edge is the "jaws find" option. The ctrl+f does not work in jaws 2018, instead, it brings up the "find" box in edge itself. However, this was fixed in jaws 2020. I have jaws 2020 running in 40 minute mode. Just in case, has anyone found a fix for this in jaws2018? pat
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cory McMahon Sent: Thursday 9 July 2020 00:31 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial? Is edge accessible now? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Edge Tutorial? Hi, Everyone. I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser? I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software. Thanks, Dani
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Re: Permanently activating Jaws screen shade
Ashleigh Piccinino
I just want to know why you’d want the screen shade to be permanent? I just hope it’s nothing that your searcin for that you don’t want everyone else seeing, like end of life stuff-suicide stuff, I mean. Please e-mail me privately at apiccinino@...
to answer this question, okay?
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Ashleigh Piccinino
On Jul 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, paul lemm via groups.io <paul.lemm@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting
Tom Behler
Mario:
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Your analysis was right on. I did control 1, and found that the date had somehow been switched to custom format, whatever that means. I switched it back to "date format", and now, all is well. How things got switched to custom is a true mystery to me. Tom Behler
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:11 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting Tom, I'm no expert using Excel, but when you're on the cell, if you press control+1 and then press tab, what is the formatting set to? is it different from cells that don't muck with the date as you want it displayed? when that happens to me, the first thing to check is the formatting. -------- Original Message -------- From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com] To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 7:46 PM Subject: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting Hello, everyone. I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and have encountered a very strange problem. Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I put 7/08/2020 as an example. Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good. However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the column entry reads 8Jul. I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to change the date formatting. Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated. Thanks! Tom Behler
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Re: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting
Mario
Tom, I'm no expert using Excel, but when you're on the cell, if you press control+1 and then press tab, what is the formatting set to? is it different from cells that don't muck with the date as you want it displayed?
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when that happens to me, the first thing to check is the formatting.
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From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombehler@gmail.com] To: jfw list <jfw@groups.io> Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 7:46 PM Subject: Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting Hello, everyone. I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and have encountered a very strange problem. Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I put 7/08/2020 as an example. Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good. However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the column entry reads 8Jul. I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to change the date formatting. Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated. Thanks! Tom Behler
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Re: Edge Tutorial?
Shirley Tracy
Cory,
I’m not very technical, but I’m using Edge. I leftt Firefox because it was acting strange and crashing often. I’ve only been using Edge for a few days, but so far it has not given me any problem.
Shirley Tracy
From: Cory McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 7:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial?
Is edge accessible now?
-----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Edge Tutorial?
Hi, Everyone. I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser?
I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software.
Thanks, Dani
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Re: Edge Tutorial?
Milton Ota
Hartgen Counsulting did a webinar on MS Edge and you can purchase the recording from his website.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Edge Tutorial? Hi, Everyone. I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser? I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software. Thanks, Dani
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Re: Edge Tutorial?
Milton Ota
Yes, if you are running Windows 10.
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You also need to have installed the latest version and build of JAWS.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cory McMahon Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:31 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge Tutorial? Is edge accessible now? -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Edge Tutorial? Hi, Everyone. I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser? I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software. Thanks, Dani
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Strange Excel Issue Regarding Date formatting
Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.
I am working on an Excel spreadsheet report for an organization, and have encountered a very strange problem.
Typically, when I enter a date into the first column of a given row, I put 7/08/2020 as an example. Jaws reads this correctly, and life is good.
However, this evening, for some reason, when I enter 7/08/2020, the column entry reads 8Jul.
I have no idea why this is happening, or what I might have done to change the date formatting.
Any help to get things back to normal here would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Tom Behler
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Re: Edge Tutorial?
Cory McMahon
Is edge accessible now?
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dani Pagador Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:03 PM To: main <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Edge Tutorial? Hi, Everyone. I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser? I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software. Thanks, Dani
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Edge Tutorial?
Dani Pagador
Hi, Everyone.
I'm using JFW2018 with Win10 build 1903. Is there a tutorial for the Microsoft Edge browser? I'd like to use Firefox, but it keeps squawking at me to update my screenreading software. Thanks, Dani
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Re: Edge question
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Since the purpose of these lists is to provide help to each other, and the information provided by Brian was detailed and appeared to be very helpful, I do not see the point in criticizing those who provide valuable assistance. All that does is discourage future contributions, possibly from that person or from others who might have thought of answering a question.
________________________________________ From: main@jfw.groups.io [main@jfw.groups.io] on behalf of Maria Campbell via groups.io [lucky1inct=gmail.com@groups.io] Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:15 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge question BS. You are not changing anything by not saying the words, because there is a difference, whether you acknowledge it or not. Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 8:35 PM, David Moore wrote: Why did you have to point out that he can see? I do not think of people being blind or sighted! I do not like it when blind people do this all of the time. I do not even think about my blindness most of the time, and I don’t think of people being blind or sighted. I don’t like labels. people need to stop doing this! On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com>> wrote: I insulted you by saying you are sighted and young and smart? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com<mailto:lucky1inct@gmail.com> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 6:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: Maria, Please give up this kind of insulting rhetoric. It's entirely uncalled for. I really don't care how old, or blind, or not tech savvy you are. That makes not the slightest bit of difference that you, like all of us, have to go with the flow of the technology stream as it goes along. You don't get to stop the world, nor do I, nor does anyone else. Given my track record here, and on a number of blindness related forums, your statements go beyond just insulting into outrageous. I suggest you think, and a lot more deeply and carefully, before tossing out your baseless frustration at me as though that's justified. It's not, period. So stop. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it. ~ Lawrence Krauss
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Re: Edge question
Marty Hutchings
Brian has certainly helped me out of a jam or two here and I appreciate his help.
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Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
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From: Mario Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 8:38 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Edge question I agree. -------- Original Message -------- From: Don Walls [mailto:donwalls@telus.net] To: <main@jfw.groups.io> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 9:14 PM Subject: Edge question I find it disappointing that when Brian has merely stated a reality, that all of us have to deal with change in tech, that others respond with mean-spirited criticisms and put-downs. Brian frequently responds to listers’ problems with thoughtful, helpful responses, and I appreciate his generous contributions. Don *From:* Randy Barnett *Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2020 5:42 PM *To:* main@jfw.groups.io *Subject:* Re: Edge question Well, It makes a huge difference in how they use a PC and what kind of experience they have when dealing with changes in how a PC is laid out. Ignoring the difference between the way we have to deal with PC compared to a sighted person is naive and and smacks of political correctness. On 7/7/2020 5:35 PM, David Moore wrote: Why did you have to point out that he can see? I do not think of people being blind or sighted! I do not like it when blind people do this all of the time. I do not even think about my blindness most of the time, and I don’t think of people being blind or sighted. I don’t like labels. people need to stop doing this! On Tue, Jul 7, 2020, 7:45 PM Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote: I insulted you by saying you are sighted and young and smart? Maria Campbell lucky1inct@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 7/7/2020 6:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote: Maria, Please give up this kind of insulting rhetoric. It's entirely uncalled for. I really don't care how old, or blind, or not tech savvy you are. That makes not the slightest bit of difference that you, like all of us, have to go with the flow of the technology stream as it goes along. You don't get to stop the world, nor do I, nor does anyone else. Given my track record here, and on a number of blindness related forums, your statements go beyond just insulting into outrageous. I suggest you think, and a lot more deeply and carefully, before tossing out your baseless frustration at me as though that's justified. It's not, period. So stop. -- Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 /The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it./ ~ Lawrence Krauss
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Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Dan Longmore
Yes, correct, says “Favorites”
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steven Hicks
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:34 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
I Think that JAWS says favorites when you tab around to that tree view.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Hi, In your navigation pane you can right click or use application key, and get a list of choices for folders. These include: rename, move, delete and others. Note you cannot delete the “Inbox” folder from this method.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Ballantyne
Hi,
How do I delete folders from outlook running Microsoft 365, Latest JAWS 2020, latest Windows 10? Is there a second step needed to do a permanent delete ? Also what are the steps to rename a folder in Outlook with JAWS 2020?
Many thanks. Sharon Ballantyne
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Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Steven Hicks
I Think that JAWS says favorites when you tab around to that tree view.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Longmore
Sent: 08 July 2020 17:18 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: how do I deletefolders from outlookand rename folders in outlook
Hi, In your navigation pane you can right click or use application key, and get a list of choices for folders. These include: rename, move, delete and others. Note you cannot delete the “Inbox” folder from this method.
Dan
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon Ballantyne
Hi,
How do I delete folders from outlook running Microsoft 365, Latest JAWS 2020, latest Windows 10? Is there a second step needed to do a permanent delete ? Also what are the steps to rename a folder in Outlook with JAWS 2020?
Many thanks. Sharon Ballantyne
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Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Steven Hicks
Thanks, that answsers my question.
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: 08 July 2020 17:52 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Hi Steven,
Are you asking about audio ducking? If so, read below.
Note: The new setting is explained after the 2 emails.
From: Jessica D
I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is only available when audio ducking is disabled.
I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be able to take advantage of this feature.
Thanks,
Jessica
Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while audio is being
Bill White
----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Hicks Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:51 AM Subject: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please? I Assume that it is disabled by default?
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Re: Sound Card Keep Awake Option
Mike B
Hi Steven,
Are you asking about audio ducking? If so, read
below.
Note: The new setting is explained after the 2
emails.
Original Message From: Jessica D
Hi, I’m curious why the option to have jaws not cutoff words, is
only available when audio ducking is disabled.
I use audio ducking all the time, but would still love to be
able to take advantage of this feature.
Thanks,
Jessica
From: Bill White Hi, Jessica. The reason the new setting in JAWS to keep sound
cards awake is not enabled while Audio Ducking is enabled is because, while
audio is being
ducked, another application is running which uses the sound card. If another application is using the sound card, that application will usually keep the sound card awake, independently of JAWS. Bill White
New Option to Keep Wireless Speakers and Sound Cards from Clipping Speech When JAWS or Fusion Begins Speaking Many modern Bluetooth headphones and speakers as well as some onboard sound cards shut down when no audio is received in order to conserve battery. JAWS now includes a new option, which when enabled, keeps these devices awake by constantly playing silence. You will not hear anything, but your device will remain active, resulting in more consistent speech. To enable this feature, open Settings Center (INSERT+6) on the number row, press CTRL+SHIFT+D to load the default settings, and search for "Avoid speech cut off when using Bluetooth headphones or some sound cards." Note: The battery of your headphones/speakers could drain faster if you choose to turn on this feature. This option is also not available if the Audio Ducking feature is enabled which lowers the audio volume of programs while JAWS speaks. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
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From: Steven Hicks
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 6:51 AM
Subject: Sound Card Keep Awake Option Can anyone tell me where to find this new option please? I Assume that it is disabled by default?
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