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moderated Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Ann Byrne
 

JAWS has an archived webinar on using MS Teams. It is very helpful.

At 09:49 AM 4/10/2020, you wrote:
Hi Sameer,

I'm hardly using Teams for three weeks now on a laptop running Windows 10 with jaws 2020 latest update because this is my employer's recommended tool for remote working.

This app is globally accessible except for defining a "contact group" in the "Chat" tab, "Contacts" subtab.

In order to learn how to use it, I started from this web page:

<https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows>https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows

I did not install any Jaws script yet but if there are some, I'd also like to know.

Hope this helps. Have a nice day. Chris D

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:36 PM
To: JFW Group <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Dear List Friends,

Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.

Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

Richard Turner
 

I am an old Window-Eyes user, so I dumped the List hot key, which was l and made it the any link key.

I seldom if ever want to jump to the next list…

 

Its really up to your own preference.

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

 

Hi Luke,

 

Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter.  In here is where you can either add or change your key assignments.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Luke

Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM

Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

 



Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the  free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option.  I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button  and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key                 


moderated Re: sound card crackles

Jim Pursley
 

Ditto.  I had thought that my two sound card setup created the interference and warbled speech but it now seems to have another cause.  Closing and reopening JAWS does the trick.

On 4/10/2020 1:11 PM, Dan Longmore wrote:

Hi,

  In addition to what others have written I just want to add my experience.

From time to time my sound card will begin to crackle.  Dumping and re starting JAWS fixes the issue.  I have never traced what causes the problem and as it is intermittent it is hard to determine .  I am using Win 10 ,latest version, and latest release of JAWS on an HP with dedicated video memory and 16gb of memory. 

No solution I know rather just a note that I have seen the issue and a JAWS re start takes care of it.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sound card crackles

 

Hi All,

 

I was just wondering if any of you have ever noticed your sound card device crackle when using speech?  I just got a new Lenovo p52 mobile workstation computer and there is some annoying crackle when speech occurs.  I would appreciate if anyone has any good ideas on how to fix this.

 

Best,

 

Juan


moderated Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

Mike B
 


Hi Luke,
 
Press, Insert + F2, to open the Jaws manager and navigate to, Navigate Quick Keys, and press enter.  In here is where you can either add or change your key assignments.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:03 AM
Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key



Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the  free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option.  I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button  and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key                  


moderated Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

Bill White
 

No, I wasn’t. But starting Narrator works well, because, once I have answered Yes to the UAC prompt, I can just toggle Narrator off again with CONTROL plus WINDOWS key, ENTER.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

Hi,

Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator?

Thanks for the responses.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: April 10, 2020 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

Daniel Wolak
 

Hi,

Were you ever able to solve this problem aside from starting narrator?

Thanks for the responses.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bill White
Sent: April 10, 2020 12:39 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Don H
 

I am using the latest version of Thunderbird along with the latest version of NVDA and have no issues.  I neever have the statgus bar enabled.  See no real need to have it enabled.

On 4/10/2020 11:43 AM, Leo wrote:

oh yes, about that, as you supposed, it's an issue for n v d a users, not jaws users, I'm pretty sure of it!


Best,
   Leo
On 4/10/2020 10:22 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

I have not installed the latest version of thunderbird but there have been numerous complaints over the last few days on the  NVDA list that  the latest version has become unusable as it has become too verbose and there was wide disappointment that Mozeilla had failed to test it with screenreaders. There were complaints that it was now unusable and  looking to downgrade to previous versions.

 

It may be that Jaws users are getting a different experience but   I had assumed that there would be a relatively similar screenreader experience. Certainly in the past NVDA and Jaws had performed relatively similarly when I have used Thunderbird in the past.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 10 April 2020 15:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?

I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

 

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose

focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

 

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus

from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a

press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of

my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

 

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is

lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview

reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an

email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail

without even opening it.

 

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some

reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just

pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am

aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it

with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before

sending this message back to you.

 

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative

than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in

the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of

accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook

Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not

personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I

really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first

rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich

may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

.

 

this

 

load.

 

You have to get used to using the shift

 

.

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos

*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all

I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a

email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.

I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,

but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing

something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make

these work better with Jaws 2019?

 

Thank you

 

Nickus

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Leo
 

oh yes, about that, as you supposed, it's an issue for n v d a users, not jaws users, I'm pretty sure of it!


Best,
   Leo
On 4/10/2020 10:22 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

I have not installed the latest version of thunderbird but there have been numerous complaints over the last few days on the  NVDA list that  the latest version has become unusable as it has become too verbose and there was wide disappointment that Mozeilla had failed to test it with screenreaders. There were complaints that it was now unusable and  looking to downgrade to previous versions.

 

It may be that Jaws users are getting a different experience but   I had assumed that there would be a relatively similar screenreader experience. Certainly in the past NVDA and Jaws had performed relatively similarly when I have used Thunderbird in the past.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 10 April 2020 15:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?

I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

 

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose

focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

 

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus

from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a

press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of

my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

 

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is

lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview

reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an

email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail

without even opening it.

 

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some

reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just

pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am

aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it

with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before

sending this message back to you.

 

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative

than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in

the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of

accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook

Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not

personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I

really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first

rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich

may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

.

 

this

 

load.

 

You have to get used to using the shift

 

.

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos

*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all

I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a

email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.

I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,

but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing

something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make

these work better with Jaws 2019?

 

Thank you

 

Nickus

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

I did some switching: I turned place marker into P, then use K for Any Link. I don’t tend to use P for paragraph, as ctrl+down arrow works.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

 

I set mine to Y.  I think the default is that Y does the next span element and I just don’t navigate with that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

 



Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the  free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option.  I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button  and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key                 

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moderated Re: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

Bill White
 

I had the same problem, and I had to start Narrator to be able to answer Yes in the $$ window.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel Wolak
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 6:07 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Window coming up alongside UAC dialogue

 

Hi all,

I’m running into an issue with jaws 2020 on Windows10 1909,x64.

Every time a uac dialogue comes up, I’m not presented with the dialogue as normal.

Rather, the window that comes up is something entitled $$$Secure UAP Background Window.

Jaws seems to lag significantly, although I am able to alt+tab into the uac dialogue and then hit alt+y to accept.

I’ve sent this to Vispero, but am just wondering if anyone on the list has any ideas about this?

Cheers,

 

Daniel

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


moderated Re: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

Van Lant, Robin
 

I set mine to Y.  I think the default is that Y does the next span element and I just don’t navigate with that.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 10:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: What navigation key should I use for the any link key

 



Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the  free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option.  I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button  and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key                 

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moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

David Griffith
 

 

I have not installed the latest version of thunderbird but there have been numerous complaints over the last few days on the  NVDA list that  the latest version has become unusable as it has become too verbose and there was wide disappointment that Mozeilla had failed to test it with screenreaders. There were complaints that it was now unusable and  looking to downgrade to previous versions.

 

It may be that Jaws users are getting a different experience but   I had assumed that there would be a relatively similar screenreader experience. Certainly in the past NVDA and Jaws had performed relatively similarly when I have used Thunderbird in the past.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mario
Sent: 10 April 2020 15:34
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?

I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.

 

 

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]

To: <main@jfw.groups.io>

Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019

I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

 

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

 

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose

focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

 

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus

from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a

press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of

my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

 

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is

lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview

reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an

email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail

without even opening it.

 

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some

reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just

pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

 

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am

aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it

with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before

sending this message back to you.

 

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative

than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in

the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of

accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook

Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not

personally use this.

 

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I

really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first

rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich

may have even more access challenges.

 

David Griffith

 

.

 

this

 

load.

 

You have to get used to using the shift

 

.

 

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos

*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08

*To:* main@jfw.groups.io

*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi all

I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a

email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.

I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,

but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing

something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make

these work better with Jaws 2019?

 

Thank you

 

Nickus

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated What navigation key should I use for the any link key

Luke
 



Hi! My first post here I have dabbled with JAWS before in which it seems a long time ago. Most of that previous info is gone. I have been a NVDA user for the last while. I’m taking advantage of the  free download of JAWS so I can learn a second screenreader. I found it a little frustrating that if I wanted to skip through just links I potentially had to use 2 different buttons. I’m talking about the unvisited and visited buttons. So I did some googling and yay! I came across info about the anylink option.  I am thinking I am going to make the anylink key the K button  and move the place marker key to the J button but, what should I do with the jump to line command which is J at the moment? It seems all the letter navigation keys are taken. I could be wrong about that though. I don’t have any plans on using the jump to line feature at the moment so burying it somewhere doesn’t bother me that much. I’m also open To hear in which what navigation key you used for the Anylink key                  


moderated Re: sound card crackles

Dan Longmore
 

Hi,

  In addition to what others have written I just want to add my experience.

From time to time my sound card will begin to crackle.  Dumping and re starting JAWS fixes the issue.  I have never traced what causes the problem and as it is intermittent it is hard to determine .  I am using Win 10 ,latest version, and latest release of JAWS on an HP with dedicated video memory and 16gb of memory. 

No solution I know rather just a note that I have seen the issue and a JAWS re start takes care of it.

 

Dan

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Juan Hernandez
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 1:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: sound card crackles

 

Hi All,

 

I was just wondering if any of you have ever noticed your sound card device crackle when using speech?  I just got a new Lenovo p52 mobile workstation computer and there is some annoying crackle when speech occurs.  I would appreciate if anyone has any good ideas on how to fix this.

 

Best,

 

Juan


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

I also have Office 365 and while I am now on Jaws 2020, I have been using Outlook via Office 365 for many years with all versions of Jaws and both under Windows 7 and 10. It would help if you specifically listed the issues you have.

Don’t forget that you can always fall back on Microsoft Accessibility for specific problems.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Leo
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 7:43 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

 

Hi, I use jaws 2020 latest compilation and thunderbird, but the only accessibility issue I find is the option menu.

 

Best,
   Leo

On 4/10/2020 8:34 AM, Mario wrote:

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?
I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM
Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019
I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose
focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus
from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a
press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of
my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is
lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview
reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an
email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail
without even opening it.

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some
reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just
pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am
aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it
with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before
sending this message back to you.

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative
than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in
the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of
accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook
Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not
personally use this.

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I
really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first
rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich
may have even more access challenges.

David Griffith

.

this

load.

You have to get used to using the shift

.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos
*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a
email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,
but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing
something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make
these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus






moderated Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS + additional questions

Marilyn Bland <tinkerbelltx@...>
 

Good morning all,

 

I’m feeling overwhelmed by all the on-line things that are now being used. My employer is using Meet.google.com for meetings and collaboration. I know this is different from Zoom, but is it also different fromTeams? Are there others on the list using Google Meets? Is Hangouts the same as any of these?  Please clarify and give me some good places to learn how to use Google Meets.

 

Many thanks.

 

Marilyn

       

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:50 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

 

Hi Sameer,

 

I’m hardly using Teams for three weeks now on a laptop running Windows 10 with jaws 2020 latest update because this is my employer’s recommended tool for remote working.

 

This app is globally accessible except for defining a “contact group” in the “Chat” tab, “Contacts” subtab.

 

In order to learn how to use it, I started from this web page:

 

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows

 

I did not install any Jaws script yet but if there are some, I’d also like to know.

 

Hope this helps. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:36 PM
To: JFW Group <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

 

Dear List Friends,

 

Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.

 

Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Shan Noyes
 

when inside teams use your control key and hit the. And that will list shortcuts for the product


On Apr 10, 2020, at 8:36 AM, Sameer <salatey@...> wrote:


 
Dear List Friends,
 
Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.
 
Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.
 
Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.
 
Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

Delaunay Christophe
 

Hi Sameer,

 

I’m hardly using Teams for three weeks now on a laptop running Windows 10 with jaws 2020 latest update because this is my employer’s recommended tool for remote working.

 

This app is globally accessible except for defining a “contact group” in the “Chat” tab, “Contacts” subtab.

 

In order to learn how to use it, I started from this web page:

 

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-microsoft-teams-538a8741-f21b-4b04-b575-9df70ed4105d#picktab=windows

 

I did not install any Jaws script yet but if there are some, I’d also like to know.

 

Hope this helps. Have a nice day. Chris D

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sameer via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:36 PM
To: JFW Group <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Using Microsoft Teams with JAWS

 

Dear List Friends,

 

Is Microsoft Teams accessible with JAWS or do we need to install additional JAWS scrips to make it accessible? If we need to install additional JAWS scrips, kindly inform me where I can get these scrips.

 

Also, request you to kindly point me to a source for keystrokes to be used with Microsoft Teams. I am using the latest version of JAWS 2020 on a Windows 10 machine.

 

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

 

Regards

Mr. Sameer Latey
Mumbai, India


moderated Re: Email client for Jaws 2019

Leo
 

Hi, I use jaws 2020 latest compilation and thunderbird, but the only accessibility issue I find is the option menu.


Best,
   Leo
On 4/10/2020 8:34 AM, Mario wrote:

what access issues in the latest version of Thunderbird?
I'm using JAWS 2018 and haven't experienced any issues.


-------- Original Message --------
From: David Griffith [mailto:daj.griffith@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, April 10, 2020, 9:22 AM
Subject: Email client for Jaws 2019
I am using both Outlook subscription version and Windows Mail

I use Jaws 2020 but have also used Jaws 2019 without issues.

Windows Mail in particular takes a little getting used to as you lose
focus from the inbox list every time new messages arrive

If you hear navigation bar or loading this will mean you have lost focus
from the inbox but you will then become a fan of the shift tab key as a
press or two of this should land you back on the inbox. This is part of
my muscle memory so this has ceased to be annoying.

The advantage of Windows Mail for me over Outlook is that it is
lightning fast, easy to set up and has a fantastic automatic preview
reading feature which allows you to hear the first 2 or 3 lines of an
email as you cursor down the inbox. This often allows me to delete mail
without even opening it.

Occasionally Mail will crash with Jaws, though not with NVDA for some
reason. However Mail is so fast at loading I again have got used to just
pressing the windows key and pressing Mto launch it again.

Outlook is slower but with more bells and whistles but as far as I am
aware has absolutely no access issues of any significance. I am using it
with Jaws 2019 at the moment to check that nothing has changed before
sending this message back to you.

I think at the moment it would be difficult to find a better alternative
than Mail and Outlook as I believe that there has been access issues in
the latest version of Thunderbird which was the other mainstay of
accessible email clients. There are some legacy version of Outlook
Express which apparently have accessibility support but I do not
personally use this.

What exactly are the issues you are having with Mail and Outlook? I
really think you may be better served trying to sort these out first
rather than going from the frying pan to the fire of other optionswhich
may have even more access challenges.

David Griffith

.

this

load.

You have to get used to using the shift

.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Nickus de Vos
*Sent:* 10 April 2020 12:08
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io
*Subject:* Email client for Jaws 2019

Hi all
I'm running the latest Windows 10 with Jaws 2019. I'm battling to find a
email client which is accessible with Jaws 2019.
I tried MS Office since I have Office 365 and I also tried Windows Mail,
but Jaws 2019 seams to have issues with both. Unless I'm missing
something, is there maybe settings to be changed or layouts which make
these work better with Jaws 2019?

Thank you

Nickus







moderated Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

Leo
 

well, I know that English language represent a challenge when it comes to how synthesizers pronounce homophones, but I believe I was misunderstood.

All I want is someone willing to share their default.jfd file, of course, assuming that as an native English speaker has already added the correct pronunciation in many cases.

For example, if you guys try to read the following word using eloquence, and then try to read it using vocalizer, you'll notice the difference.

the word is

voila



Best,
   Leo
On 4/9/2020 9:45 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Marie,

 

Interestingly, my Dectalk Express synthesizer read “read” correctly both times in your example, that is, present tense first, then past tense. Whoever is behind this engine, or possibly the JAWS pronunciation itself, figured out a way to tell a synthesizer when to read certain words a certain way. Not all words work as well. “Polish” comes to mind. Whether it’s the surface smoother or a person from Poland, the pronunciation is the same.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 2:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Part of the problem could be the weird issue in the English language of spelling words the same but having a different pronunciation depending on where the word is used. Unfortunately a screen reader can only have one way of pronouncing these word so they pick the most common usage.

Example is you might read a text today or you may have read it yesterday.

 

Marie

 

From: Leo

Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:05 AM

Subject: Would someone share a default.jdf file, please?

 

Hi everyone,

I like to use eloquence synthesizer because it’s very responsive, and I’m used to it. However, if you use this voice on a regular basis, you’ll have probably noticed that eloquence awkwardly mispronounce lots of words, some of them very common words. So, I wonder if someone has a default dictionary for jaws that is willing to share. Besides, given that I’m not a native English speaker, all too often I can’t figure out how a word is accurately pronounced.

If someone could share with me their default.jdf file, I’d really appreciate it.

 

Tanks in advance

 

 

 

 

 

--
Best,
   Leo