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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Pablo Morales
Russell, yes you are right. I installed on a old computer and it didn't work
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well with any program, it took for ever to open outlook, or just to restart, jaws wasn't able to read the start menu, and some times crashed. Now I have on a ACER laptop windows 10 installed, and it is working perfectly. Now I am installing windows 10 on a dell desktop with an i7 processor, and I will see how it works, but I believe that the hardware too old, could be a problem on windows 10, like in whatever operating system or software.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi Adrian, I think it's more the age of the computer being updated than whether it's Windows 7 or 8.1... I have an old Lenovo laptop... 10 years old, and I don't think I'd like to update it to Windows 10... I had Windows 7 on it and updated it to Windows 8.1 and was sorry because it ran so slow with Windows 8.1. If you have a relatively new laptop or desktop running Windows 7 I wouldn't hesitate updating to Windows 10, if you're so inclined. Cheers, Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:03 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Russell, To me, you make an argument for Win7 users to stay with Win7 but for Win8 and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to Win10 will be unavoidable. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi Brad, I purchased a new laptop last November, a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 running Windows 8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. I updated to Windows 10, and like the fact that the start menu is back. When I press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows 7. If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, which is really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when she isn't able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish the search results could be switched to Google, but at least for now, Bing is the only choice. I am looking forward to trying Edge once Jaws support is available for it. I think whether or not to update to Windows 10 is a very personal choice, and, I also feel that we shouldn't be advised not to update just because we use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated if my laptop wasn't fairly new. I've been reading the various forums and many people are experiencing troubles with the Windows 10 update, not only users of assistive technology, so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one. For me, I'm glad I updated, but we'll see how things go once Microsoft starts pushing out those updates! Ha ha. Like you say, fun, fun, fun! :) Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. 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stubborn remnances
Mario
after running the tool from fs to remove prior versions of JAWS, I checked the programs and features applett and found:
Freedom Scientific Synthesizer Eloquence Freedom Scientific 7/ 13/ 2015 10.9 MB 6.1.004 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 28/ 2012 15.3 MB 13.0.1006.400 Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 14.0 Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 35.2 MB 14.0.6005.400 Freedom Scientific Video Intercept Freedom Scientific 8/ 27/ 2013 12.6.305.0 opting to uninstall the 13 talking installer, I got the following which also happens with the 14 talking installer: The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in the box below. C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\ OK The path 'C:\Users\Mario\AppData\Local\Temp\RuntimeJAWS.msi' cannot be fo und. Verify that you have access to this location and try again, or try to find the installation package 'RuntimeJAWS.msi' in a folder from which you can install the product Freedom Scientific Talking Installer 13.0. Cancel The installation source for this product is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it. I figure the Eloquence driver and Video Intercept are needed components, so left those alone. how to cleanly remove both talking installers?
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Re: repairing jaws
Nicki keck <jesusgirl71@...>
I am not the one who tried to connect to his computer, but I did get him
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afterward. Whenever he calls in, we groan because honestly, the man cannot hear what you say to him. If you connect to him via tandem, the way you have to give him the code is he will say, "1, 2, 3" and you stop him at the right number/letter. H knows how many letters and numbers, but still. When I got him, he asked me if it was hard to repair JAWS. I told him it might be or might not, as that is subjective, but I did think it would be hard for me to try to explain to him how to do it. I knew I'd never get across to him how to do it with his hearing problems. He didn't understand and just kept asking if it is hard to repair JAWS. I finally told him it might or might not be depending on his computer abilities and I don't know if he understood, but he hung up. That is why whoever it was probably told him he needed a sighted person because if she couldn't stay connected, then trying to walk him through it would be impossible, and I am not exaggerating. Usually, if you try to explain something to him, he will eventually try to get one of his family members on the phone and have you explain it to them and then they will yell loudly to him and try to get him to understand. Usually they will tell him something bluntly like Addison you can't do it or Addison you have to upgrade JAWS or whatever and tell him they'll come over and help him later. He doesn't necessarily need a sighted person, but he does need someone who can hear. Doubt anyone who could come to help him would be blind and hearing so in that case a sighted person would be necessary. He is really hard to work with. If you can get connected via tandem, what Keith has done, and it was actually a good idea, is to open his notepad and type to him what he wanted to say and then have JAWS read it to him. He seems to be able to understand JAWS better. But he needs to be using relay, and if there are connection problems with tandem then it's hopless, literally. I might have tried to help him with tandem but he just kept asking is it hard to repair JAWS and I couldn't get anything at all across to him.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:08 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@gmail.com> Subject: FW: repairing jaws -----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: FW: repairing jaws -----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:47 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hello there, I need to know how to repaired Jaws 16 ? I never know how to repaired jaws and download from fs website but I have jaws 16 disc !! One of FS support was trying to do it for me but when she try to jaws tandem she couldn't stay connect because jaws crashed so she told me that I need to repaired jaws and download from FS website ! Here what she say in e-mail below !! Hi, Here is what I was trying to say on the phone. It seems to me that your jaws needs to be repaired. when I tried to do tandem while we were on the phone, jaws stopped speaking and then the tandem crashed, and I could not stay connected to your computer. it would be helpful if there was a sighted person on hand to help do the repair since I cannot stay connected to your computer through tandem. In order to repair jaws, we need to download jaws from the freedom scientific web site, and then run a repair. Is it hard for me to repaired jaws without sighter help and I'm hard of hearing ? Addison -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hi, I typed from the run dialog, jaws16 /type repair and only heard Jaws Professional. Can you provide the syntax again? Thanks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Mike and Jenna Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hi, I am not sure if this has been responded to or not but if you go to the run box brous to ware you have your jaws.exe then hitand hit space and at the end do /type repair and that will work as well. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:56 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: repairing jaws Mark, I think if you run the jfw.exe file, you will eventually be given an option to perform a repair of Jaws. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:52 AM To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Mark Furness Subject: repairing jaws Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But, that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair? Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!! Mark _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Adrian Spratt
Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Clarification of my question, and thank yous
Brad Martin
Hi all,
Just to be clear, I wasn't saying that anyone shouldn't upgrade to Windows 10, or that I never would. I'm sure I will eventually--quite possibly next year if it works well enough. The intent of my question was that with all of the new features that are available but which we can't use yet, I wasn't clear what I would gain by going through that process today, right now, this week. I have a desktop that's not quite two years old, but I've got lots of horsepower in it; it won't have any trouble meeting the Windows 10 requirements. Then I have a cheap laptop which is not quite a year and a half old, and it's pretty basic, but should also function fine with Windows 10. Both are running Windows 7. Both are doing very well for me. Nothing's slow. Everything I need for home and work just works. It's really a blessing. So the goal of my inquiry was to understand what great improvements I should expect from upgrading to Windows 10 right now. To this point, I haven't heard anything that's made me want to drop what I'm working on to upgrade my perfectly functioning machines before I go to bed tonight. It does sound like Windows 8.1 users may be very grateful to get back the Windows 7 functionality that Microsoft should never have taken away in the first place, and I think if I had 8.1, I'd be thinking more seriously about diving into the Windows 10 pool. On a completely separate note, I thought an interesting item is the fact that for a limited time, people who upgrade to Windows 10 will get a DVD player for free to replace their current Windows Media Center; but later adopters will have to pay separately for Microsoft's DVD player de jour. This would be compelling if I hadn't abandoned Windows Media Player years ago for the free VLC Media Player. Thank you to all who have contributed to this discussion. It has been most helpful. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Brad -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150809/149e5932/attachment.html>
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FW: repairing jaws
O.Addison Gethers
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From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list Subject: FW: repairing jaws -----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:47 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hello there, I need to know how to repaired Jaws 16 ? I never know how to repaired jaws and download from fs website but I have jaws 16 disc !! One of FS support was trying to do it for me but when she try to jaws tandem she couldn't stay connect because jaws crashed so she told me that I need to repaired jaws and download from FS website ! Here what she say in e-mail below !! Hi, Here is what I was trying to say on the phone. It seems to me that your jaws needs to be repaired. when I tried to do tandem while we were on the phone, jaws stopped speaking and then the tandem crashed, and I could not stay connected to your computer. it would be helpful if there was a sighted person on hand to help do the repair since I cannot stay connected to your computer through tandem. In order to repair jaws, we need to download jaws from the freedom scientific web site, and then run a repair. Is it hard for me to repaired jaws without sighter help and I'm hard of hearing ? Addison -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Les Kriegler Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hi, I typed from the run dialog, jaws16 /type repair and only heard Jaws Professional. Can you provide the syntax again? Thanks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna via Jfw Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:25 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Mike and Jenna Subject: RE: repairing jaws Hi, I am not sure if this has been responded to or not but if you go to the run box brous to ware you have your jaws.exe then hitand hit space and at the end do /type repair and that will work as well. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:56 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: repairing jaws Mark, I think if you run the jfw.exe file, you will eventually be given an option to perform a repair of Jaws. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness via Jfw Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:52 AM To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Mark Furness Subject: repairing jaws Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But, that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair? Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!! Mark _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:
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Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Brad Martin
Russell,
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I think you're right on several counts. Whether to update or not is a personal decision. My question was more a fact finding mission to understand what I'd be getting if I updated. I'm the same way before I buy anything--I want to know what it's going to do--either for me or to me--when I get it. I also think that if I were running Windows 8.1, I'd be more likely to update just to get back some of the Windows 7 feel and functionality I lost with Windows 8.1. But since I have Windows 7 already, I think I'll just wait until I hear something compelling about 10, or until July 29, 2016 when the upgrade ceases to be free. Brad
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I wish that had been the case. I bought a Lenovo on sale. It has 12 gb RQAM
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and 1 tb memory. My husband calls it "a Hummer." I said on Facebook that it set me back but was not a set back.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Carolyn, Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 installations. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
Dear List,
I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1) does read search results automatically in Windows 10. So, if you have Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150809/8e2ce461/attachment.html>
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I have the same problem with the Alt-V, C, V.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:07 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com> Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says "blank". Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
I upgraded to Windows 10, and I don't plan to roll back to 8.1 because for
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:35 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: j Bron <jbron@optonline.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? When I first read about windows 10 being a free download for a time it was exciting. Right now I think I'll stick with windows 7 until all the kinks are worked out. Judith -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:17 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Brad Martin Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What's worse, if you have Windows 10 Home, you won't be able to delay the "updates" until JAWS figures out what to do with them. Ready or not, here they come. Windows 10 Pro users will be able to delay updates to a point, unspecified is how long you'll be able to delay them. I just read that tonight. Fun fun fun. Brad On 8/8/2015 11:42 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote: Joseph,refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. the year. documents. mall?(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to ----__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/cf760b25/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I definitely agree with waiting until around the first of the year. That was
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:08 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, Correct (Gabriel Aul from Microsoft tweeted that there will be a service release this month). As for bad side of continuous refinements and updates, that's one thing I'm slightly worried about: accessibility issues. For this reason, I advised some knowledgeable blind people (including some JAWS users here) to stay as Windows Insiders to help Microsoft iron out accessibility problems before the general public receives updates. But as with any software releases, Windows 10 will have flaws (a trending topic on various social networking sites and newspaper articles is privacy concerns, and for screen reading, Microsoft did something with UIA where performance degradation was observed for some screen reader users). As for upgrade period: yes, Windows 10 will be free for properly licensed users until July 2016. Many would say, "take advantage of Windows 10 now". However, I and others would like to advise you to hold off for a while (especially for screen reader users; for JAWS users, please don't upgrade until JAWS 17 comes out; there are certain things JAWS 16.0.4350 doesn't support, including not reading Start search results automatically (to fix this, JAWS may need to listen to a specific UIA event), no forms mode nor virtual cursor in Edge (Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA) and not announcing Action Center notifications for some users (to fix this, FS may need to refine which controls are toasts, and toasts in Windows 10 are not tool tips anymore, rather they are actual windows)). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Let me know if I spoke too much geekspeak. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Joseph, I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements will be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing. Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps together into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple desktops with apps for different purposes opened in each desktop. By default, when you install Windows 10 and with multiple desktops opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle among apps on the current desktop (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to change this behavior). This isn't the same as having two or more user accounts (I for one use two user accounts and switch between them for various purposes). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, Windows10 won't be free anymore. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12065 (20150808) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Allen Childs <lightnin60@...>
Also using Windows 10 here, with JAWS and loving it.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Dave...
Carolyn,
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Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 installations. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
My good computer guy is coming over today to import my address, and I will
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Brad, One other feature Windows 10 introduces is virtual desktops. I have not yet tried it out, but if I understand correctly, you could, for instance, have separate desktops for work and personal data. I guess this feature is intended to help users become and stay organized. I don't know, however, if it is accessible. Michal -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't
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speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it!
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons> My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
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ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Hi,
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Yes - go to Settings (Windows+I)/Ease of Access/Other Options, then go to Show Notifications For combo box. You can select between 5 seconds to 5 minutes (I may need to send a feedback regarding this control, as there is a delay when changing them). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Looks like I'm serving as "Windows 10 Answer Man" here...
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:57 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? can the time to display of toast notifications be adjusted like in windows 7? On 8/9/2015 10:25 AM, Joseph Lee via Jfw wrote: Hi,as such. Once this appears, it'll go away after a few seconds, and you canJfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 2:22 AMmust dismiss?that." LOL._______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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