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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Mario
 

are you aware that NVDA has an addon called Mozilla Enhancements?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 5:12 PM
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding
Even NVDA is doing the same thing for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it
with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?































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moderated Re: Zoom and Skype scripts?

Lino Morales
 

                                Zoom scripts are already encluded in JAWS 2020.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 9:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Zoom and Skype scripts?

 

Doug Lee has several flavors of Skype scripts on his page;

https://www.dlee.org/

 

Jonathan Mosen has made his audio tutorial for Zoom free and he also has a link on his page to get the basic zoom scripts free.  Here is the link to the page where you can get the audio book followed by the link for the Zoom scripts.

https://mosen.org/zoom/

 

Hartgen Consultancy have produced free JAWS scripts which enhance the Zoom Cloud Meeting experience even further. Download the free JAWS scripts.

http://www.hartgen.org/zoom

 

 

We wish you health, safety, and very frequently-washed hands during these challenging times.

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:46 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Zoom and Skype scripts?

 

I think I heard or read somewhere that there are scripts for the Zoom conferencing Program? And Skype ones? Thanks for info.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

JM Casey
 

You can, yes, although virtual buffer in JAWS for instance is supposed to circumvent this and usually does, but of course copying that way, you lose formatting and other stuff. Good enough for me to get away with it sometimes, though.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: March 20, 2020 9:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

That could potentially be simply because the website doesn't let you copy anything. I am not a web developer, but I believe you can make it so copying just doesn't work.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I agree, this step will solve most problems copying passages from webpages while using Chrome. However, I have encountered several websites where I can't copy anything while using chrome. The Washington Post comes to mind, as does the Guardian. I can select text, but nothing happens when I press control-c. In the applications menu, "copy" is greyed out. In these cases, I have to open the same page in another browser, usually IE11, and make the copy there.

A fast way to get to the "copy" option in the JAWS quick settings menu is to type "copy" in the edit field when settings opens.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Mote
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 2:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

Hi there. If you are in Chrome, you will want to change the following setting. Press Insert plus V to access the Chrome Quick Settings. In the search box, type copy. Use the arrow key to find the option that says copy find the options. If it is set to copy content from screen, hit your spacebar once. The option will change to copy from virtual cursor. Use the tab key to move to the OK button and press enter. See if this resolves your issue. Good luck!

On 3/20/20, Abraham Sweiss <abrahamsweiss8@...> wrote:
I do not know what the processes for non-US users to engage with support.

Also hopefully you’ll have better luck than I do. Every time I called,
they tandems into my computer and all of a sudden the copy started to work.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@...>
wrote:

Can I call them outside the US? I am willing to do it even now.
BTW, a funny thing has happened. Your message said something along
the lines “We can only report it to support”, right after my TTS
finished reading it I heard a message from Outlook: “Not available
outside the open message”

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I agree. Only thing we can do is keep reporting it to support.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki
<nuno69a@...>
wrote:

I don’t like it, honestly. Is there anything we can do about it?
That’s a basic thing that should be fixed.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abraham
Sweiss
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 4:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Cannot copy text in Chrome

I have the same issue with Firefox.
Think this is a known design flaw with jaws, which they have not been
able to fix.
Would suggest calling support to see if they can provide any help.

Thanks,abraham

On Mar 20, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Arkadiusz Świętnicki <nuno69a@...>
wrote:

Hi list,
Sometimes when in Chrome, I cannot copy the selection to the
clipboard. It happens only with JAWS, and only with Chrome. What shall. I do?



moderated QCast?

ann
 

Hi,


 For years, I have used the QCast program to download or play podcasts, but although I was able to install and even activate it, it either won't download podcast episodes or in many cases won't even add the podcast at all.


Anyone have any suggestions or a suggestion for other programs?


Thanks,

~Ann


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Marty Hutchings
 

Are you uninstalling and reinstalling the same Firefox executable? You may have a corrupted file. Go to Firefox site and get a new download. Save the executable, disconnect from the internet by removing the plug from your modem, install Firefox and turn off automatic updates then plug in your internet.



Love in Christ
Marty
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
Ephesians 6:12, 13

-----Original Message-----
From: netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:04 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not
turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it
reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it
reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10
64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

Even NVDA is doing the same thing for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 2:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it
with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Chris
 

Remove the profile folder under appdata then fire up firefox and if that doesn’t work nothing will

 

 

From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: 27 March 2020 20:44
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

I tried that, and it still keeps hanging on upon reinstallation.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: John Covici <covici@...>

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

 

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you

have to buy it.  I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

 

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,

Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> Leasey? What's that?

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John

> Covici

> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM

> To: main@jfw.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> Do you have Leasey installed?

> On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,

> Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

> >

> > What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that

> > when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.

> > I press

> > Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS

> > can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I

> > Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I

> > press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has

> > stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it

> > still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is

> > checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been

> > happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen

> > Firefox, the

> whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list.  each method

> > works differently.

> > there is control shift b,  this one closes the list as soon as you

> > press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.

> > control i opens the  entire list of links and you have the option to

> > search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again

> > with

> control i.

> > but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the

> > bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or

> > browse mode for window eyes.

> > also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the

> > bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to  put focus

> > back on

> the list.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B.  What

> > does

> > Control+I do?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > one thing  with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control

> > i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a

> > minute before speech will come back.

> > it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main

> > point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In

> > fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on

> > the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not

> > responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until

I exit Firefox.

> What's up with that, I wonder?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.

> > a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.

> > but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet

> > connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM

> > To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'

> > Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > Yes indeed I did.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of

> > netbat66

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> > did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?

> > if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.

> > you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off

> > automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i

> > think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.

> >

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: Annabelle Susan Morison

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM

> > To: main@jfw.groups.io

> > Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding

> >

> >

> > This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with

> > Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my

> > Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it

> > was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries

> > updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've

> > turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> --

> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

> How do

> you spend it?

>          John Covici wb2una

>          covici@...

 

--

Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:

How do

you spend it?

 

         John Covici wb2una

         covici@...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

make sure the bookmark list is closed. this hangs firefox when you open it with the virtual cursor on.
have you tried n v d a? it seems to work better without hanging it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

i don't know now.
for awhile the 64bit version would not even work with jaws 2020. i could not turn the virtual cursor on. Links still worked but that was all. Wen it reverted to the 32 bit version jaws started working.
i installed firefox 64bit several times and every time it did a update it reverted me back to the 32 bit version. I have windows 7 64bit and windows 10 64 bit.
in both cases i was reverted back to the 32 bit version when it updated.
i have benn able to use the 64bit of the portable version so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

That's strange! How is the 64-bit version more unstable than the 32-bit
version of Firefox 52.6.0?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 8:41 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

are you useing the 32 or 64bit version of firefox?
the 64bit is more unstable then the 32bit version.
even with jaws i had to go back to the 32bit version.
it has been this way for years. even though i have the 64bit version of
windows
7 and 10.
i am also find that firefox does not crash as much when i use n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when I open
Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press Alt+Tab to get
to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS can read the other
programs and they respond just fine, but when I Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it
says "Firefox not responding". When I press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not
Responding", or "Firefox has stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program
To Respond", and it still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says
"Windows is checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has
been happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method works
differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you press
escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to search
the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the bookmark
list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse mode for window
eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the bookmark
list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i without
turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute before speech
will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point at the
headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I unplugged the
cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of my computer, and I
still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and it just hangs there with
my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox. What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off automatic
updates and i also turn off the background services i think its called. this
is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with Windows
XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my Windows 7 machine
since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was working fine. When I
reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to Firefox 60, and I don't
understand why, because I've turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else
had this happen to them?


moderated Re: Audible.com

Van Lant, Robin
 

I’m currently on the $15.95 plan and have been pleased to have gotten two recent offers where I get two books for 1 credit.  There is a link I havent’ used yet where I can get 3 extra credits for something like $30.  I’m not even sure I’ll keep the subscription going after another month or two, but have liked that I’ve gotten a bit more for my money while in it without making a huge commitment like the platinum plan.  I’ve also done Chirp Audio books, where I get an daily email of discounted books that come in around $6 or $7 each.  The player is quite accessible on iPhone; havent’ tried it with JAWS. 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 11:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

I currently have the Light membership which just gets me some discounts and costs, $9.95 per year..

If you do not have an account, you may want to set up one just to get through to the next screen. After logging in from Alan's link, this is what I got. Gold Monthly

1 Credit/Mo.

You pay $14.95per credit

$14.95 per month

Platinum Monthly

2 Credits/Mo.

You pay $11.48per credit

$22.95 per month

Gold Annual Special

12 Credits/Yr.

You pay $9.96 per credit in year one, $12.46 per credit thereafter

$119.50 1st year, $149.50/yr. thereafter

All Gold and Platinum membership plans include

·         Exclusive member-only savings. Get 30% off any additional audiobooks

·         Keep your books forever

·         Exchange any audiobooks you don’t love

·         Two free Audible Original titles every month from our curated selection

 



Richard

"There's a nap for that." 

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

 



On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95.  I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month
after.  It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means...  Not sure how the books are formatted though.  I am tempted to
check it out...  Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership
plans:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=LbF7FbSSomtkpaNCzLtpM%2F5xR%2BxVI4GMaQ5UslfLHN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
tch_membership
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=nOIAveCYlAAxKYsqazFRMQkiPGOpBthFhJaY4DqDaJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fwxrqlf5&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=obtQGfqMREMvm0a4gGaqyFy9hxm5Aw1oENkODsZIPus%3D&amp;reserved=0



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

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course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you



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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I tried that, and it still hangs.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of netbat66
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your
bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will
bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have
to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen
until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

netbat66
 

the problem is this will not do a clean install.
some of the settings are retained and not erased.
have you tried a factory reset? the problem is this will also erase your bookmarks and passwords and screen colors if you changed them.
but you hold down the shift key when you click on the desktop icon. this will bring up some options to try running it with add ons disabled.
or resetting firefox back to the factory defaults.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

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covici@...


moderated Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

JM Casey
 

Sure, I have the NVDA add-on. it's useful but it doesn't really solve the problem in preferences dialogue etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: March 27, 2020 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

for NVDA, there is an addon for VLC. do you have it installed?

I don't have any problem using Winamp on Windows 10, but someone mentioned about the VLC addon for NVDA, and in my case, it would be nice to have an alternative, just in case Winamp gets wonky.
-------- Original Message --------
From: JM Casey [mailto:jmcasey@...]
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2020, 12:35 PM
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?
nVDA still won't read preferences etc though for me. Does it work for you? Otherwise, yeah there is certainly more feedback for status and things like that.

I have no trouble with Winamp and the latest build of windows 10, and I use it for audio -- but I play a lot of vieos and VLC is hands down the best player I have found for that. There's a lot of power under the hood and really I've only scratched the surface.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March 27, 2020 10:38 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?


There are masses of keystroke which work with VLC - in particular I love the ability to speed up and slow down podcasts on the fly but I agree that there is a big gap for scripts providing information.

I have looked in vain for VLC scripts.

As a guide to what could be done you only have to load the NVDA VLC addon which completely transforms VLC information feedback. For example or all the information you require you only have to press the I key.

Often I quit Jaws when I am going to be using VLC as the experience is so much better supported.

to given that WinAmp is increasingly unsupported and to some extent obsolete, I moved to VLC as WinAmp kept on crashing under Windows 10, and failed to play some streams that VLC had no problem with, it seems utterly bizarre that Jaws provides no support for VLC at all.

David Griffith

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: 27 March 2020 11:54
To: Jaws for Windows support EMail List <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Accessibility of Vlc with Jaws?

Seems to me that Vlc with Jaws isn’t that accessible? I did a Jaws+h command, but I didn’t get any kind of help info. Can you with Jaws and Vlc, see how long the audio is, how much time Elapsed and other info, maybe with Jaws scripts? Thanks for experiences you guys might have with this combo.

Gera
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moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I tried that, and it still keeps hanging on upon reinstallation.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don Mauck
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you
have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until
I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






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How do
you spend it?

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covici@...


moderated Re: Desktop Shortcut Problem

Bill White
 

Hi, David. Yes, I have been experiencing the same problem from time to time with the latest update to JAWS. If I close all windows and try the shortcut again, the folder usually opens with no problem.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Desktop Shortcut Problem

 

HI all,

 

Windows 10, JAWS 2020

 

In recent weeks, I have frequently heard “unavailable” when hitting a desktop shortcut. Especially the Downloads, Documents,and a few other folders. Only folders, not shortcuts to programs or web pages. Does anybody have similar problems? Does anybody have a solution? It happens quite frequently and is very annoying. And I know the desktop shortcuts have been put in correctly, so that’s not the problem.

 

Thanks for any help on this,

David

 

 

 


moderated Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Andy,

 

Sorry my Audible subscription link didn't work. I'm always a bit leery of providing links when I'm signed into an online account because they often don't work for others. I'd suggest you contact Audible directly using their contact form website found here:

 

https://www.audible.com/contactus?ref=a_hp_b1_dlp_footer_0&pf_rd_p=23f76a2e-f2a3-4461-b7a1-4c79e93aaa08&pf_rd_r=TH4NZ0VWCZQRAPNCSD6H

 

Otherwise, you can call them directly at (888) 283-5051 with your subscription questions.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:16 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape, romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for $14.95.  I am looking at another audio book club that you can download unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each month after.  It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other means...  Not sure how the books are formatted though.  I am tempted to check it out...  Andy and Shubert

 

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Audible.com

 

Andrew,

 

 

I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for membership

plans:

 

 

https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi

tch_membership

<https://www.audible.com/account/switch?ref=a_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw

itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB

228SPT78Q1Y4H>

&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H

 

 

They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership plans.

 

 

And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to the same site:

 

 

https://tinyurl.com/wxrqlf5

 

 

Alan Lemly

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.

LaPointe

 

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

 

To: jfw@groups.io

 

Subject: Audible.com

 

 

Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum membership plan?  It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly.  Of course, there are no customer reps there at this time.  Thank you

 

 

Andrew J. LaPointe, President

 

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

 

34 Raymond Ave.

 

Salem, MA. 01970

 

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

 

 

Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook Talking Information Center

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


moderated Desktop Shortcut Problem

David Kingsbury
 

HI all,

 

Windows 10, JAWS 2020

 

In recent weeks, I have frequently heard “unavailable” when hitting a desktop shortcut. Especially the Downloads, Documents,and a few other folders. Only folders, not shortcuts to programs or web pages. Does anybody have similar problems? Does anybody have a solution? It happens quite frequently and is very annoying. And I know the desktop shortcuts have been put in correctly, so that’s not the problem.

 

Thanks for any help on this,

David

 

 

 


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Don Mauck
 

I think I would uninstall Firefox and reinstall it.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@...>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but you have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that
when I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang.
I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen
Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again
with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or
browse mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus
back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control
i without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a
minute before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main
point at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In
fact, I unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on
the back of my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not
responding", and it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i
think its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it
was working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries
updating to Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've
turned off updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

John Covici
 

Its Jaws scripts which enhance Jaws with a lot of neat features, but
you have to buy it. I didn't realize you had old version of ff and
Jaws.

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:41:18 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

Leasey? What's that?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Covici
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

Do you have Leasey installed?

On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 02:07:24 -0400,
Annabelle Susan Morison wrote:

What's actually happening is, no matter what I do, it seems that when
I open Firefox, everything freezes, and Firefox seems to hang. I press
Alt+Tab to get to several other programs, and it works, because JAWS
can read the other programs and they respond just fine, but when I
Alt+Tab back to Firefox, it says "Firefox not responding". When I
press Alt+F4, it says "Firefox is not Responding", or "Firefox has
stopped working.". I press "Wait For The Program To Respond", and it
still hangs on. I press "Close The Program", and it says "Windows is
checking for a solution". What drives me really mad is this has been
happening since February 14, 2020. Even worse, when I reopen Firefox, the
whole vicious cycle begins again! What do I do next?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:18 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

there is 3 different ways to get to the book mark list. each method
works differently.
there is control shift b, this one closes the list as soon as you
press escape. alt b. this one does not show all the bookmark links.
control i opens the entire list of links and you have the option to
search the entire list. it stays opened until you close it again with
control i.
but as i said both jaws and window eyes will hang when you open the
bookmark list unless you turn off the virtual cursor first. or browse
mode for window eyes.
also the virtual cursor will turn back on every time you leave the
bookmark list and will hang again when you press f6 to put focus back on
the list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I thought the shortcut to open the bookmarks menu was Alt+B. What
does
Control+I do?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

one thing with firefox. if you open the bookmark menu with control i
without turning off the vertual cursor it will hang for over a minute
before speech will come back.
it does this with both jaws and window eyes. it does not with n v d a.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:37 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I actually go through an ethernet connection which has its main point
at the headquarters of the apartment complex where I live. In fact, I
unplugged the cable I have from the ethernet connection on the back of
my computer, and I still get the same "Firefox is not responding", and
it just hangs there with my whole machine frozen until I exit Firefox.
What's up with that, I wonder?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:55 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

by unplugging the modem if you don't have it on a power strip.
a few modems have a button you can press to disconnect from the net too.
but you have to do this right after firefox has been installed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 5:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

I wonder if there's a way to change those options while the Internet
connection is off. If so, how would I do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison [mailto:foristnights@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:36 PM
To: 'main@jfw.groups.io'
Subject: RE: Firefox Is Not Responding

Yes indeed I did.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
netbat66
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:56 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Firefox Is Not Responding

did you turn off the internet connection as soon as you re installed it?
if you don't it will upgrade you as soon as you open it.
you have to leeve your internet connection off until you turn off
automatic updates and i also turn off the background services i think
its called. this is in the same advanced settings area.


-----Original Message-----
From: Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Firefox Is Not Responding


This is rather strange, since I can run it fine on this machine with
Windows XP, same version (52.6.0), but I can't seem to run it on my
Windows 7 machine since February 14 of this year. Before then, it was
working fine. When I reinstall it, it automatically tries updating to
Firefox 60, and I don't understand why, because I've turned off
updates to Firefox. Has anyone else had this happen to them?





























--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...






--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?

John Covici wb2una
covici@...


moderated Re: Audible.com

James English
 

Hello,

In the UK audible is 7.99 per month, or at least it was in 2008 when
we set up our account. I'm one of those 'few long-term members' who
still uses a username to log in.

On 3/27/20, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...> wrote:
Thanks Richard. I have an account currently and it doesn’t offer me
anything but the escape membership or the $14.95 per credit per month.
Maybe I’ll try that and see if it kicks in other offers….At this time, I
have no membership plan but, have a credit that they gave me due to one of
the books I purchased a few years ago disappeared from my Library.. I bet
you that if I do sign up to the $14.95 membership that it will kick in…I
think that that is the difference. I trully appreciate what you do for
email lists for those of us that are not that savy with many of computer and
phone teck. Andy and Shubert



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 1:46 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com



I currently have the Light membership which just gets me some discounts and
costs, $9.95 per year..

If you do not have an account, you may want to set up one just to get
through to the next screen. After logging in from Alan's link, this is what
I got. Gold Monthly


1 Credit/Mo.


You pay $14.95per credit

$14.95 per month

Platinum Monthly


2 Credits/Mo.


You pay $11.48per credit

$22.95 per month

Gold Annual Special


12 Credits/Yr.


You pay $9.96 per credit in year one, $12.46 per credit thereafter

$119.50 1st year, $149.50/yr. thereafter

All Gold and Platinum membership plans include

* Exclusive member-only savings. Get 30% off any additional
audiobooks

* Keep your books forever

* Exchange any audiobooks you don’t love

* Two free Audible Original titles every month from our curated
selection

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View All Categories



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<https://www.audible.com/contactus?ref=a_account_s_b1_mobile_footer_stacked_1&pf_rd_p=a25dfc05-2746-4c69-bab1-b3f9a2e396af&pf_rd_r=HZJV23GVT7E3CHGWCBGM>
Contact Us



<https://audible.custhelp.com/?pf_rd_p=a25dfc05-2746-4c69-bab1-b3f9a2e396af&pf_rd_r=HZJV23GVT7E3CHGWCBGM>


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Help



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<https://www.audible.com/ep/giftcenter?ref=a_account_s_b1_mobile_footer_stacked_4&pf_rd_p=a25dfc05-2746-4c69-bab1-b3f9a2e396af&pf_rd_r=HZJV23GVT7E3CHGWCBGM>
Gifts



<https://www.audible.com/legal/conditions-of-use?pf_rd_p=a25dfc05-2746-4c69-bab1-b3f9a2e396af&pf_rd_r=HZJV23GVT7E3CHGWCBGM>
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Interest-Based Ads
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Cookies
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Full Site

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"There's a nap for that."

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
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On Mar 27, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe <alapointe89@...>
wrote:

Hi Allan, I don't see anything on any subscriptions except Audible escape,
romance books that you borrow or 1 credit of the regularmembership for
$14.95. I am looking at another audio book club that you can download
unlimited books for free for the first month and $19.95 per month each
month
after. It says that you can read the books on the computer or any other
means... Not sure how the books are formatted though. I am tempted to
check it out... Andy and Shubert

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 12:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Audible.com

Andrew,



I'm reposting my previous message in html format in order to keep the link
from breaking when it spans more than one line. Here is the link to the
Audible website to which I was taken when checking my account for
membership
plans:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_swi&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=LbF7FbSSomtkpaNCzLtpM%2F5xR%2BxVI4GMaQ5UslfLHN4%3D&amp;reserved=0
tch_membership
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.audible.com%2Faccount%2Fswitch%3Fref%3Da_account_o_c2_account_detail_sw&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=nOIAveCYlAAxKYsqazFRMQkiPGOpBthFhJaY4DqDaJ0%3D&amp;reserved=0
itch_membership&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB
228SPT78Q1Y4H>
&pf_rd_p=935889bd-1b43-4bad-b2ac-246de54598d0&pf_rd_r=FSNNFSB228SPT78Q1Y4H



They still seem to have gold and platinum annual and monthly membership
plans.



And in case the above link gets messed up again, here's a TinyURL link to
the same site:



https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2Fwxrqlf5&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C795eca140a4b45d523b708d7d2728fab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637209261780896573&amp;sdata=obtQGfqMREMvm0a4gGaqyFy9hxm5Aw1oENkODsZIPus%3D&amp;reserved=0



Alan Lemly



-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andrew J.
LaPointe

Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 3:41 PM

To: jfw@groups.io

Subject: Audible.com



Hello, does anyone know if Audible.com discontinued the gold or platinum
membership plan? It seems that it is not listed on their website... I only
find the $14.95 per month or one other plan for $12 or so monthly. Of
course, there are no customer reps there at this time. Thank you



Andrew J. LaPointe, President

Friends of the Salem Council on Aging

34 Raymond Ave.

Salem, MA. 01970

Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185



Editor, Commission Commuter Update and the Safe Disabled Traveler Notebook
Talking Information Center