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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Bill White
To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS:
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Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Brad Martin
Russell,
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I think you're right on several counts. Whether to update or not is a personal decision. My question was more a fact finding mission to understand what I'd be getting if I updated. I'm the same way before I buy anything--I want to know what it's going to do--either for me or to me--when I get it. I also think that if I were running Windows 8.1, I'd be more likely to update just to get back some of the Windows 7 feel and functionality I lost with Windows 8.1. But since I have Windows 7 already, I think I'll just wait until I hear something compelling about 10, or until July 29, 2016 when the upgrade ceases to be free. Brad
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I wish that had been the case. I bought a Lenovo on sale. It has 12 gb RQAM
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and 1 tb memory. My husband calls it "a Hummer." I said on Facebook that it set me back but was not a set back.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Dave Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Carolyn, Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 installations. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
Dear List,
I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1) does read search results automatically in Windows 10. So, if you have Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150809/8e2ce461/attachment.html>;
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon?
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I have the same problem with the Alt-V, C, V.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:07 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com> Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says "blank". Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
I upgraded to Windows 10, and I don't plan to roll back to 8.1 because for
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the most part, it works well for me.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:35 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: j Bron <jbron@optonline.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? When I first read about windows 10 being a free download for a time it was exciting. Right now I think I'll stick with windows 7 until all the kinks are worked out. Judith -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 2:17 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Brad Martin Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What's worse, if you have Windows 10 Home, you won't be able to delay the "updates" until JAWS figures out what to do with them. Ready or not, here they come. Windows 10 Pro users will be able to delay updates to a point, unspecified is how long you'll be able to delay them. I just read that tonight. Fun fun fun. Brad On 8/8/2015 11:42 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote: Joseph,refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. the year. documents. mall?(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to ----__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/cf760b25/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I definitely agree with waiting until around the first of the year. That was
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my initial intention until my programs began to die on me one at a time.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:08 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, Correct (Gabriel Aul from Microsoft tweeted that there will be a service release this month). As for bad side of continuous refinements and updates, that's one thing I'm slightly worried about: accessibility issues. For this reason, I advised some knowledgeable blind people (including some JAWS users here) to stay as Windows Insiders to help Microsoft iron out accessibility problems before the general public receives updates. But as with any software releases, Windows 10 will have flaws (a trending topic on various social networking sites and newspaper articles is privacy concerns, and for screen reading, Microsoft did something with UIA where performance degradation was observed for some screen reader users). As for upgrade period: yes, Windows 10 will be free for properly licensed users until July 2016. Many would say, "take advantage of Windows 10 now". However, I and others would like to advise you to hold off for a while (especially for screen reader users; for JAWS users, please don't upgrade until JAWS 17 comes out; there are certain things JAWS 16.0.4350 doesn't support, including not reading Start search results automatically (to fix this, JAWS may need to listen to a specific UIA event), no forms mode nor virtual cursor in Edge (Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA) and not announcing Action Center notifications for some users (to fix this, FS may need to refine which controls are toasts, and toasts in Windows 10 are not tool tips anymore, rather they are actual windows)). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Let me know if I spoke too much geekspeak. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Joseph, I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements will be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing. Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps together into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple desktops with apps for different purposes opened in each desktop. By default, when you install Windows 10 and with multiple desktops opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle among apps on the current desktop (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to change this behavior). This isn't the same as having two or more user accounts (I for one use two user accounts and switch between them for various purposes). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, Windows10 won't be free anymore. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? 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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Allen Childs <lightnin60@...>
Also using Windows 10 here, with JAWS and loving it.
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Allen I use to have a handle on life, but it broke.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Dave...
Carolyn,
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Do I understand that you can still receive a free copy of Windows 10 for an XP installation? I thought it was only available to Windows 7 and Windows 8 installations. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer
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From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:47 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it! -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
My good computer guy is coming over today to import my address, and I will
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try to ask him about that extra desktop.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Brad, One other feature Windows 10 introduces is virtual desktops. I have not yet tried it out, but if I understand correctly, you could, for instance, have separate desktops for work and personal data. I guess this feature is intended to help users become and stay organized. I don't know, however, if it is accessible. Michal -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
I came from XP, and wow, am I glad that I did. I never had 7, so I can't
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speak for that. I've just been working on mine for about 24 hours, and I do like it!
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Bill White
Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing:
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ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Hi,
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Yes - go to Settings (Windows+I)/Ease of Access/Other Options, then go to Show Notifications For combo box. You can select between 5 seconds to 5 minutes (I may need to send a feedback regarding this control, as there is a delay when changing them). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Looks like I'm serving as "Windows 10 Answer Man" here...
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mario via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:57 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Mario <mrb620@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? can the time to display of toast notifications be adjusted like in windows 7? On 8/9/2015 10:25 AM, Joseph Lee via Jfw wrote: Hi,as such. Once this appears, it'll go away after a few seconds, and you canJfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 2:22 AMmust dismiss?that." LOL._______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Hi,
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Yes, you'll hear a sound when they appear. Cheers, Joseph
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Onwardbob via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:48 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Onwardbob <onwardbob@roadrunner.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Joseph, I haven't gone for W-10 yet. Is there an audio clue when one of those notifications pops up? BOB SOUTAR.ONWARD THRU THE FOG -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 7:25 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, Hmmm, how can I explain this... A toast notification is like a help balloon except it doesn't really act as such. Once this appears, it'll go away after a few seconds, and you can actually interact with it by pressing Windows+V while it is shown. You can ignore them, and if you do, they'll live in Action Center until you clear them all (pressing Windows+A will open Action Center). Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 2:22 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? So josef, if they don't have help balloons anymore but windows, then does that mean that I will get a pop up window when something happens wich I must dismiss? On 09/08/2015, Kimsan via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote: Lmao! That was a good one!care. MikeLOL.
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
Hi,
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I'm having the same problem Barbara is having. I press Alt-V followed by C and V and hear nothing. Tabbing yields a blank area which Jaws speaks. Les
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:01 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Kevin Hourigan Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hello Barbra, I am using Windows 7, 64 bit, Jaws 16.0. 4350, and Outlook 2013, and pressing alt V, C, V, while in the inbox of Outlook brings up "Current view group box", with a list of options, Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Hansen via Jfw Sent: August-08-15 12:33 PM To: Jfw lists <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Barbara Hansen <the2skibears@embarqmail.com> Subject: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi List friends, Regarding the info on losing messages in outlook, and the suggestion to change the view menu, I need to know how to do this. The suggestion, alt-V, c, v, did not work for me. When I bring up the ribbons menu and enter on the "view" menu, nothing happens. It just says "blank". I also tried arrowing and tabbing and still says "blank". Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Barbara arrow over to -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/e1d0ad4d/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Russell Solowoniuk
Hi Adrian,
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I think it's more the age of the computer being updated than whether it's Windows 7 or 8.1... I have an old Lenovo laptop... 10 years old, and I don't think I'd like to update it to Windows 10... I had Windows 7 on it and updated it to Windows 8.1 and was sorry because it ran so slow with Windows 8.1. If you have a relatively new laptop or desktop running Windows 7 I wouldn't hesitate updating to Windows 10, if you're so inclined. Cheers, Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:03 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Russell, To me, you make an argument for Win7 users to stay with Win7 but for Win8 and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to Win10 will be unavoidable. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi Brad, I purchased a new laptop last November, a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 running Windows 8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. I updated to Windows 10, and like the fact that the start menu is back. When I press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows 7. If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, which is really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when she isn't able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish the search results could be switched to Google, but at least for now, Bing is the only choice. I am looking forward to trying Edge once Jaws support is available for it. I think whether or not to update to Windows 10 is a very personal choice, and, I also feel that we shouldn't be advised not to update just because we use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated if my laptop wasn't fairly new. I've been reading the various forums and many people are experiencing troubles with the Windows 10 update, not only users of assistive technology, so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one. For me, I'm glad I updated, but we'll see how things go once Microsoft starts pushing out those updates! Ha ha. Like you say, fun, fun, fun! :) Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 08/8183d0e8/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Russell Solowoniuk
I agree Maria. :)
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:24 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Maria Campbell <lucky1@ct.metrocast.net> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 is an indication of the future of Microsoft with the introduction of Cortana and the Edge browser. There's no getting around that, no matter if and when one upgrades. And these two new features will revolutionize Windows computing when they are perfected. There are always growing pains with a new system, and the sooner one deals, the better, especially considering free versus having to pay the longer one waits. That is the value of this list, helping with those growing pains. On 8/9/2015 11:03 AM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote: Russell,and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to Win10 will be unavoidable. Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AMWindows 8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. II press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows7. If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, whichis really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when sheisn't able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish thewe use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated ifmy laptop wasn't fairly new.technology, so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one.-- Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Trials without God will break you. Trials with God will make you. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Installation of Windows 10
Russell Solowoniuk
Hi Maria,
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You can find the tool, as well as other Windows 10 update info on the following FS page... http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade HTH Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Maria Campbell via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:05 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Maria Campbell <lucky1@ct.metrocast.net> Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10 That's very interesting. Where does one find this tool? On 8/9/2015 10:42 AM, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw wrote: FS has a tool you can download and run that will automatically uninstall all versions of Jaws prior to Jaws 16.-- Sunny Day Maria Campbell lucky1@ct.metrocast.net Trials without God will break you. Trials with God will make you. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Mario
can the time to display of toast notifications be adjusted like in windows 7?
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On 8/9/2015 10:25 AM, Joseph Lee via Jfw wrote:
Hi,
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