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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Les Kriegler <kriegler@...>
I think the instructions Bill is referring to is that as you tab, the
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keystrokes for accessing the various options from within the ribbon are given. Personally, I can live without that. I've had a real struggle with the ribbons ever since I started to use them, and I think it's because virtual ribbons were checked. I wondered why NVDA seemed to handle the ribbons more effectively than Jaws, and now I think I understand why that was the case. In retrospect, use of the virtual ribbons caused me more trouble than they were worth. Perhaps FS will improve on that feature, but for now, I won't be using that feature. Les
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or where I am? -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: notes
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Hello Kimsan,
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It is too bad your brain is frozen; it looks like your memory is the only one with that info, lol. Cheers Kevin.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 4:07 PM To: jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com> Subject: notes I'm having a brain freeze at the moment, but, when writing a note in outlook 2013, since I'm using outlook 2013, if I was dumb enough to not input when I wrote it is there a setting to have jaws echo that information? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/6de3878f/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
Same here: all my programs open quickly and are running smoothly. If I
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hadn't done the upgrade myself, I would have thought my computer was built for Windows 10.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 9:20 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 is working great for me... I don't mind the fact that Jaws doesn't automatically read search results, as it's usually not the first result I am looking for, so must arrow down the list anyway. Mostly Jaws is quite responsive and all my programs open very quickly. Cheers, Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:55 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I definitely agree with waiting until around the first of the year. That was my initial intention until my programs began to die on me one at a time. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:08 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, Correct (Gabriel Aul from Microsoft tweeted that there will be a service release this month). As for bad side of continuous refinements and updates, that's one thing I'm slightly worried about: accessibility issues. For this reason, I advised some knowledgeable blind people (including some JAWS users here) to stay as Windows Insiders to help Microsoft iron out accessibility problems before the general public receives updates. But as with any software releases, Windows 10 will have flaws (a trending topic on various social networking sites and newspaper articles is privacy concerns, and for screen reading, Microsoft did something with UIA where performance degradation was observed for some screen reader users). As for upgrade period: yes, Windows 10 will be free for properly licensed users until July 2016. Many would say, "take advantage of Windows 10 now". However, I and others would like to advise you to hold off for a while (especially for screen reader users; for JAWS users, please don't upgrade until JAWS 17 comes out; there are certain things JAWS 16.0.4350 doesn't support, including not reading Start search results automatically (to fix this, JAWS may need to listen to a specific UIA event), no forms mode nor virtual cursor in Edge (Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA) and not announcing Action Center notifications for some users (to fix this, FS may need to refine which controls are toasts, and toasts in Windows 10 are not tool tips anymore, rather they are actual windows)). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Let me know if I spoke too much geekspeak. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Joseph, I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements will be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing. Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps together into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple desktops with apps for different purposes opened in each desktop. By default, when you install Windows 10 and with multiple desktops opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle among apps on the current desktop (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to change this behavior). This isn't the same as having two or more user accounts (I for one use two user accounts and switch between them for various purposes). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, Windows10 won't be free anymore. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? 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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Russell Solowoniuk
Windows 10 is working great for me... I don't mind the fact that Jaws
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doesn't automatically read search results, as it's usually not the first result I am looking for, so must arrow down the list anyway. Mostly Jaws is quite responsive and all my programs open very quickly. Cheers, Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:55 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? I definitely agree with waiting until around the first of the year. That was my initial intention until my programs began to die on me one at a time. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:08 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, Correct (Gabriel Aul from Microsoft tweeted that there will be a service release this month). As for bad side of continuous refinements and updates, that's one thing I'm slightly worried about: accessibility issues. For this reason, I advised some knowledgeable blind people (including some JAWS users here) to stay as Windows Insiders to help Microsoft iron out accessibility problems before the general public receives updates. But as with any software releases, Windows 10 will have flaws (a trending topic on various social networking sites and newspaper articles is privacy concerns, and for screen reading, Microsoft did something with UIA where performance degradation was observed for some screen reader users). As for upgrade period: yes, Windows 10 will be free for properly licensed users until July 2016. Many would say, "take advantage of Windows 10 now". However, I and others would like to advise you to hold off for a while (especially for screen reader users; for JAWS users, please don't upgrade until JAWS 17 comes out; there are certain things JAWS 16.0.4350 doesn't support, including not reading Start search results automatically (to fix this, JAWS may need to listen to a specific UIA event), no forms mode nor virtual cursor in Edge (Microsoft Edge is filled with UIA) and not announcing Action Center notifications for some users (to fix this, FS may need to refine which controls are toasts, and toasts in Windows 10 are not tool tips anymore, rather they are actual windows)). Cheers, Joseph P.S. Let me know if I spoke too much geekspeak. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:43 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Joseph, I understand your point about continuous refinements, but the first refinements will amount to a service pack even if not given that name. I'll be content to wait. I assume the "bad" part you refer to is that from time to time, a "refinement" may disrupt accessibility because screenreader developers may find it hard to keep up. I agree. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:14 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Joseph Lee Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, There will be no service packs as in the past. Continuous refinements will be the norm from now on, which are good thing and a bad thing. Virtual desktops (called Task View) are a way to group running apps together into workspaces. In other words, you can open multiple desktops with apps for different purposes opened in each desktop. By default, when you install Windows 10 and with multiple desktops opened, pressing Alt+TAB will cycle among apps on the current desktop (go to Settings/System/Multitasking to change this behavior). This isn't the same as having two or more user accounts (I for one use two user accounts and switch between them for various purposes). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:05 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Windows 10 won't be free after a year. I believe the 2020 date refers to the end up MS support. But for now, as Brad says, who has the time? I'm waiting for the first service pack (MS always comes out with one) and FS's first rounds of fixes, all of which I expect will appear within the year. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 11:49 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, Windows10 won't be free anymore. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Martin via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Brad Martin" <brad@formyfriends.org> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:03 PM Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? 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Re: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results
Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
It does, but not automatically as you type your search term; you have to use
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the arrow keys to get JAWS to read them.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:38 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Debbie April Yuille <debbiey1982@optusnet.com.au> Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results Are you saying that JAWS does read the start search entries. I was under the impression that it didn't read them. Thanks Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 8:10 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results I down arrow to list the results. I think it would be annoying if jaws read hundreds of results automatically... -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:34 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Subject: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results Dear List, I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1) does read search results automatically in Windows 10. So, if you have Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/8e2ce461/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Russell Solowoniuk
Hey Brad,
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For sure, that makes total sense. If therrre's some great new functionality with Edge when Jaws is able to support it, I'll let the list know. Cheers, Russell
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 12:52 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Russell, I think you're right on several counts. Whether to update or not is a personal decision. My question was more a fact finding mission to understand what I'd be getting if I updated. I'm the same way before I buy anything--I want to know what it's going to do--either for me or to me--when I get it. I also think that if I were running Windows 8.1, I'd be more likely to update just to get back some of the Windows 7 feel and functionality I lost with Windows 8.1. But since I have Windows 7 already, I think I'll just wait until I hear something compelling about 10, or until July 29, 2016 when the upgrade ceases to be free. Brad On 8/9/2015 9:20 AM, Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw wrote: Hi Brad,Windows 8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. II press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows7. If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, whichis really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when sheisn't able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish thewe use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated ifmy laptop wasn't fairly new.technology, so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one.-- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/13c9aa6b/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Russell Solowoniuk
Well, I'm glad it's working for you on your newer laptop, and hope it does
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the same on your desktop! :)
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:42 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Russell, yes you are right. I installed on a old computer and it didn't work well with any program, it took for ever to open outlook, or just to restart, jaws wasn't able to read the start menu, and some times crashed. Now I have on a ACER laptop windows 10 installed, and it is working perfectly. Now I am installing windows 10 on a dell desktop with an i7 processor, and I will see how it works, but I believe that the hardware too old, could be a problem on windows 10, like in whatever operating system or software. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 1:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi Adrian, I think it's more the age of the computer being updated than whether it's Windows 7 or 8.1... I have an old Lenovo laptop... 10 years old, and I don't think I'd like to update it to Windows 10... I had Windows 7 on it and updated it to Windows 8.1 and was sorry because it ran so slow with Windows 8.1. If you have a relatively new laptop or desktop running Windows 7 I wouldn't hesitate updating to Windows 10, if you're so inclined. Cheers, Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:03 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Russell, To me, you make an argument for Win7 users to stay with Win7 but for Win8 and Win8.1 users maybe to think about it. Nothing I've read suggests any immediate gains for Win7 users and several negatives. In time, upgrading to Win10 will be unavoidable. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:20 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Cc: Russell Solowoniuk Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi Brad, I purchased a new laptop last November, a Lenovo Yoga Pro 2 running Windows 8.1. While I did get accustomed to Windows 8.1, I wasn't crazy about it. I updated to Windows 10, and like the fact that the start menu is back. When I press the Windows key, I am placed in a search field, similar to Windows 7. If I down arrow, I am placed in a list of my 6 most used programs, which is really convenient. I am finding Cortana to work quite well... when she isn't able to answer my query, she opens up a search page in Bing... wish the search results could be switched to Google, but at least for now, Bing is the only choice. I am looking forward to trying Edge once Jaws support is available for it. I think whether or not to update to Windows 10 is a very personal choice, and, I also feel that we shouldn't be advised not to update just because we use Jaws. Having said that though, I don't think I would have updated if my laptop wasn't fairly new. I've been reading the various forums and many people are experiencing troubles with the Windows 10 update, not only users of assistive technology, so, as I say, the choice to update is a personal one. For me, I'm glad I updated, but we'll see how things go once Microsoft starts pushing out those updates! Ha ha. Like you say, fun, fun, fun! :) Russell -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Brad Martin via Jfw Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:04 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org> Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Hi, I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first): So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best. So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function. P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall? -- Brad Martin brad@formyfriends.org <mailto:brad@formyfriends.org> My Facebook page where I post online shopping coupons and deals: facebook.com/ucoupons <http://www.facebook.com/ucoupons>; My SmarterBucks signup link <http://bit.ly/1w5FCPu>; -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results
Debbie April Yuille
Are you saying that JAWS does read the start search entries. I was under the
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impression that it didn't read them. Thanks Debbie
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Re: submitting tickets to Zendesk sites
Brad Martin
Brent,
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I'm afraid I'm not going to be any help to you. After I sent my previous message, it occurred to me (derf dederf derf) that I could access what I needed at home as easily as at work. We do use a vendor that uses Zendesk, but there are no dropdowns on their portal. There's an edit field for Subject, and edit field for Description, and an edit field for the name of the organization for which we work. Then there's a browse button in case we need to attach any files to the request, and then a submit button. So apparently the vendor doesn't use any categories. The last time I used Zendesk with a different vendor, we did have categories to select, but it wasn't a problem in 2011-2012. But I no longer have access to that instance of Zendesk. I suspect you're suffering from a move to a mobile friendly platform for Zendesk, which often breaks accessibility. Sorry not to be of more help. Brad
On 8/9/2015 3:39 PM, Brent Harding via Jfw wrote:
I need to submit a ticket to a site that uses Zendesk. However, whether I use JFW with Chrome or Firefox, or even try to do it on my phone with iOS, I can't get past the drop down boxes to select the category. They don't identify as any link or combo box for me to use them, and turning virtual cursor off lands me on the wrong category most of the time. Apple and Uber are just two examples of sites that use this. How can I get my ticket submitted? --
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
That might help me get better acquainted with these ribbons.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:11 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hello Carolyn, Initially you arrow and tab around until you find what you want, but as you do Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the particular items. Then when you want to go there the next time you just press the keystroke. You can press alt to go to the upper ribbon, arrow left or right to go to the view menu, and tab until you come to the current view dialog, or you can press alt, V, C, V. Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 4:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the "Virtual Ribbon" for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? Iproperly. If __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Oh, I can see that once I knew the keystrokes, that would be way better. I
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have some written from 2010 and think they will probably work on 2013.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 8:03 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hello Les, I presume you mean unchecking the use of the virtual ribbon. Some people prefer to use the virtual ribbon and keyboard around through the various sections of the ribbons viewing all of the available options. The virtual ribbon is quite useful when one is first acquainting themselves with the features on the ribbon, and Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the various features as well. But once one is familiar with what is there, and has memorized the keystrokes for what they want done, it is simpler and quicker to use the keystroke rather than arrowing and tabbing all over the place, "Short term pain for long term gain". It is one's personal preference Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 3:15 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
Thanks. That is what I've been doing, seems maybe a little slow, a little
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clumsy, but probably the more I do it, the more I'll get used to it.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:44 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@gmail.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 If you are using the virtual ribbon, you can press alt, left or right arrow to view, and then tab around until you come across the current view. Cheers Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 11:30 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:33 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Les and Barbara. Could this problem with pressing: ALT plus V, followed by C, followed by V, be related to whether the Virtual Ribbon is checked or unchecked in your Default Configuration Menu? This keyboard shortcut may work only if the Virtual Ribbon option under Miscellaneous is unchecked. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12067 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
So, Bill, if I lose JAWS instructions, I might not know what I'm doing or
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where I am?
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 7:13 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Carolyn. You can either use the shortcuts, or you can use the arrow keys plus the tab key to navigate the ribbon. You just lose some of the JAWS instructions while navigating. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Gary King
The free feed is to lure the deer into the killing ground. I don't think the free Windows 10 upgrade offer is quite that sinister though. Just good old Microsoft's way of trying to keep it's dominant position.
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Gary King w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 10:06 AM Subject: RE: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? Are you saying Win10 smells? Hard to make out the meaning of this, um, adage.
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Hello Carolyn,
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Initially you arrow and tab around until you find what you want, but as you do Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the particular items. Then when you want to go there the next time you just press the keystroke. You can press alt to go to the upper ribbon, arrow left or right to go to the view menu, and tab until you come to the current view dialog, or you can press alt, V, C, V. Cheers Kevin.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 4:04 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@windstream.net> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 So, if we take the check off the virtual ribbon, how do we navigate for ribbon information? Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 6:53 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Hi, Les. The argument for not unchecking the Virtual Ribbon is this: JAWS put in the "Virtual Ribbon" for those who wanted to manually navigate the ribbons using the arrows and the Tab key. It is supposed to make the menus more accessible, but I haven't found this to be true in most instances. Brad was saying that people may say to uncheck the Virtual Ribbon without telling the person the down side of unchecking the Virtual Ribbon. This may be true. However, some of the techs at FS tell you to check the Virtual Ribbon, without telling you that this blocks the function of some of the shortcuts. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Kriegler via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Les Kriegler" <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? Iproperly. If __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?
Gary King
Bill,
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I don't think I'll be upgrading my current Windows 7 computer to Windows 10 in 2020. It will be 9 years old by then if it's still running. I'll just buy a shiny new computer with Windows 10, or whatever is the latest operating system, already installed. If I had a relatively new computer running Windows 8 or 8.1 though, I would probably take advantage of the free Windows 10 upgrade. Gary King w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Bill White via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person? What you gain is that, in 2020, when you finally decide to upgrade, Windows10 won't be free anymore.
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Re: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results
Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
And, I meant I like down arrowing to read the results.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:45 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results That's not what I meant. WindowEyes does not read all results automatically, only the one that has focus. That is how JAWS behaved in Windows 7, 8, and 8.1. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 5:10 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Kimsan <kimsansong@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results I down arrow to list the results. I think it would be annoying if jaws read hundreds of results automatically... -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:34 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com> Subject: Accessing Windows 10 Start Menu Search Results Dear List, I wanted to let you all know that the latest version of WindowEyes (9.2.1) does read search results automatically in Windows 10. So, if you have Office 2010 or later, you can take advantage of this by installing WindowEyes for Office users, at least until FS releases a fix. Michal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201508 09/8e2ce461/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010
Kevin Hourigan <kevinthourigan@...>
Hello Les,
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I presume you mean unchecking the use of the virtual ribbon. Some people prefer to use the virtual ribbon and keyboard around through the various sections of the ribbons viewing all of the available options. The virtual ribbon is quite useful when one is first acquainting themselves with the features on the ribbon, and Jaws is announcing the keystrokes for the various features as well. But once one is familiar with what is there, and has memorized the keystrokes for what they want done, it is simpler and quicker to use the keystroke rather than arrowing and tabbing all over the place, "Short term pain for long term gain". It is one's personal preference Cheers Kevin.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler via Jfw Sent: August-09-15 3:15 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Okay, what are the consequences of unchecking the use of ribbons? I followed Bill's instructions to uncheck it, and the shortcut keys are easier to use, but I would like to know the argument for not doing this. If it matters, I'm running Outlook 2013 with Jaws 16. Thanks. Les -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 3:25 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Yes, but some people may want to stay with the virtual ribbon, which is the FS attempt to make ribbon navigation easier for visually impaired users. Personally, I stayed with the regular ribbon, which is fine once you get used to it. All I'm saying is that people considering unchecking this option need to be aware of the consequences. -----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Bill White Subject: Re: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 To check your settings for the Virtual Ribbon Menu in JAWS: Press JAWS KEY plus F2. Arrow down to Settings Center and press Enter. Press the letter M until it says Miscellaneous. Press Right Arrow to Open Miscellaneous. Arrow down to Virtual Ribbon Menu. It will probably tell you that this setting is unavailable except in the default configuration of JAWS. To load the default configuration: Press Shift plus Control plus the letter D as in dog. Once your default configuration is loaded, you can Press the Up and Down Arrow to see if your Virtual Ribbon Menu is checked or not. You want it to be unchecked if you want all of the keyboard shortcuts to work properly. If it is checked, press the Space Bar to uncheck it. Then Tab to OK and press Enter to save these settings. I hope this helps you. Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Arnold via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Cc: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: RE: changing the "view" in outlook 2010 Where is it that you go to check about the virtual ribbon? __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 12068 (20150809) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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FW: Possibly Off Topic: Strange Outlook 2010 problem
Tom Behler
Just re-sending this in case it didn't go through the first time.
Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan From: Tom Behler [mailto:TomBehler@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:51 PM To: Jaws users list (jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com); 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: Possibly Off Topic: Strange Outlook 2010 problem Hello, everyone. I have a strange Outlook 2010 problem on my work laptop that I could use some help with. It is a Windows 7 laptop with Jaws 16.0.4350. To give a bit of background, I have Outlook 2010 running with two e-mail accounts. One is my work e-mail account, and the other is my personal g-mail account for which I use the IMAP interface. Most of the time, when I write an e-mail in my g-mail IMAP account, two copies of my note end up in my sent file. I have always thought this to be a bit strange, but never worried about it too much since most of my e-mails are simple text messages that don't take up much space. Recently, I have noticed that sometimes, when I write an e-mail in my personal g-mail account, one copy of the message goes into my sent file, but the other copy winds up in the sent file for my work account. I know that the e-mails go out, but I'm just not sure why this is happening. Furthermore, I can't find a consistent explanation for, or patterning to this behavior. Any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated. If this quiry is considered to be off topic for this list, feel free to respond to me at: tombehler@gmail.com Thank you! Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150809/c3ef3a6c/attachment.html>;
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Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks, Mike.
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Found it. Did it. Keeping fingers crossed. Keith
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via Jfw Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 6:23 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Cc: Michael B. Subject: Re: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem Hi Keith, Try the following: While in Windows Explorer, go to Tools and then folder options. Next, move to the view tab, and then the tree-view, and uncheck the following: show preview handlers in preview payne. This problem does not occur on every Win7 machine, but it has been found that unchecking this option has corrected the problem on several systems. This crops up on some 32 and 64-bit systems. HTH, Take care. Mike This email was sent from my, iBarstool. Go Dodgers! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 3:29 PM Subject: Help with recurring Windows Explorer problem Hi, Running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit and latest JAWS 16. When I go in to Windows Explorer and look at folders and files, it seems to hang on me. I get the following message after receiving a dialog to Wait for program to resume or Exit the program. What does this mean, and what should I do next? Thanks. explorer.exe explorer.exe dialog explorer.exe The remote procedure call failed and did not execute. OK _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20150809/d3b8cfdd/attachment.html>; _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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