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Re: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

Brad,

One other feature Windows 10 introduces is virtual desktops. I have not yet
tried it out, but if I understand correctly, you could, for instance, have
separate desktops for work and personal data. I guess this feature is
intended to help users become and stay organized. I don't know, however, if
it is accessible.

Michal

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Cc: Brad Martin <brad@formyfriends.org>
Subject: What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I
just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing
that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should
use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows
7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents.
(I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate
that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know
if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that
I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that
Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will
not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to
want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't
fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in
particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just
something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still
function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

No, but if I use the arrow keys, JAWS does read the result that has focus.
So, while not having results read automatically is an inconvenience, at
least there is a way to navigate and activate them.

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 9:16 PM
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Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
And when you type something, does JAWS read results automatically? I and
other WinTen users observed it doesn't.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

When I bring up the start menu, JAWS says, "Search Box".

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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core, that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine, some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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Re: Calling All Script Writers

Robert Logue
 

Thanks for this tip. I'm trying to apply it to iTunes move forward and backward through a track. The command is control+alt+LeftArrow and control+alt+RightArrow. Jaws assigns those keys to table commands. So, we have to press passkey a lot if moving forward and back through a track.

I tried it but now the keystrokes skip to the next or previous tracks instead.

Also, it looks like the table commands don't work in iTunes help, even after I removed the keys from itunes.jkm.

Looks like they mean it when Jaws worns me this action will overwright the table commands. How do one make key commands for an application that conflict with Jaws? I don't get it. Had to remove Jaws totally as I don't know.

Bob

On 7/28/2015 2:54 PM, Soronel Haetir via Jfw wrote:
Also, if all you want to do is pass a key through you can simply
assign the PassKeyThrough script to the key in the .jkm for the
application. I'm not aware of a way to use the key manager to
accomplish that but it's not a hard thing to do.

I use the script editor, open the .jkm in question then add a line like:

Alt+DownArrow=PassKeyThrough

On 7/28/15, john.falter via Jfw<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
HelloEd:
Try this line:
TypeKey ("DownArrow")
This compiled for me.
You were missing the quotes around downarrow.

On 7/27/2015 10:51 PM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:
About half the time, when I need a script, what I really need is a
macro.

I am stumped with the simplest problem.

I have an application which will work fine if only I pass the down
arrow through to the application, not permitting JAWS to process
it. I know this works because I've done it manually.

So, I want a simple script, which I've assigned to Windows down
arrow.

The first script command is the ByPass command, and I think that
works.

I'm then thinking I should send the TypeKey command followed with
the parameter (DownArrow).

So the line reads:

TypeKey (DownArrow)

Well, I get a compile error on the TypeKey command.

I think I am overlooking something pretty simple.

as the parameter.





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I. Edward Marquette

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Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Re: Installation of Windows 10

 

Hi,
And when you type something, does JAWS read results automatically? I and
other WinTen users observed it doesn't.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 7:09 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

When I bring up the start menu, JAWS says, "Search Box".

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core, that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine, some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Nermin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
Nermin


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get windows 10 access

Robert Logue
 

I haven't upgraded yet but I did sign up for the free upgrade. Sometimes I have a "Get Windows 10" window that appears to be blank with Jaws. Need to OCR it to get any text. I'm not planning to upgrade now but just wondered if others have noticed this. It keeps nagging me "rEIME!!!!!!!
Your FREE Winiiows
upgrade is ready!
upgrade is ready!"

Bob


Re: Installation of Windows 10

Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@...>
 

When I bring up the start menu, JAWS says, "Search Box".

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
I was able to reproduce this on my brief testing with JAWS, so this isn't
unique to your system. I hope FS knows how to use UIA to resolve this...
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Pablo Morales
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I have the same problem, I repaired jaws several times, but I can't read the
start menu, some times jaws says cortana, other timesjaws says start, but
anything else jaws is able to read. I know that my computer is a little bit
old, it has quad core, that I bought in 2008. Originally this computer came
with windows vista, and I bought windows 7, and now I am trying to with
windows 10. Looks like this computer is working fine, some times works a
little bit slow, but with jaws I can't read anything in the start menu, no
matter if I repair jaws.
My question is, it could be a hardware problem due to the age of this
computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Joseph Lee
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,
Yes, and there are other issues that should be fixed soon, some of which are
issues with somewhat fundamental Windows 10 features, which makes me wonder
if FS came out with a half-baked solution last month (I hope FS is doing
something these days to fix them and to support Edge).
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: Nermin via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Date sent:
Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:02:15 +0200
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi all,

I upgraded my Win 8.1 to 10, but JAWS refuses to announce the start menu.
It will sometimes say Cortana, but other than that it stays pretty silent.
I've already uninstalled JAWS completely, restarted and reinstalled JAWS,
but the problem still persists.

Anyone ran into that on their path to Windows 10?
I am using a netbook with Win 10 32 bit on it, a Medion 98700.

Regards,
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What do I gain with Windows 10 as a blind person?

Brad Martin
 

Hi,

I've been following all this Windows 10 stuff with great interest, and I just have a question (with a lot of background first):

So FS says you shouldn't use Edge, you should use Firefox or IE. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) You can't use the built in mail program; you should use something like Thunderbird or Outlook. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) And you should use Adobe Reader for PDF documents. (I'm doing that now in Windows 7.) Reviews I've read all seem to indicate that Cortana is iffy at best.

So why should I upgrade again? I'm not being smart; I'd really like to know if I'm going to gain anything other than having a new operating system that I have to use in the same old ways. The only benefit I can see is that Windows 10 will be supported beyond January of 2020, where Windows 7 will not. Am I overlooking some wonderful new feature that should cause me to want to hurry and upgrade? Or does the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," apply here? I'd really honestly like to know if JAWS users in particular are finding anything beneficial in the upgrade, or if it's just something fun to do to your functioning computer to see if it will still function.

P.S. Anybody on this list from Louisiana and thinking Cortana, as in mall?
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Re: testing

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Addison, I went back and looked at the Repair email you sent and you are
correct. Nothing in it other than email header stuff from several emails.
I don't know about Repairing JAWS so I didn't look closely at the content
when it was received. Not sure what is happening. Wish I could help.
Best,
Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: testing

Hello Andre,
I don't see my own message in here and don't see the reply I ask about jaws
repaired either !! What's going on with all the e-mail not posted and reply
in here ?
Addison


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: testing

Email seem to come through ok.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: testing

Hello All,

I have reply some of the message in here and I don't see my reply to get
answer from anyone in this list!! Is my e-mail coming through here?



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Re: testing

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello Andre,
I don't see my own message in here and don't see the reply I ask about jaws
repaired either !! What's going on with all the e-mail not posted and reply
in here ?
Addison

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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 9:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: testing

Email seem to come through ok.

-----Original Message-----
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Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: testing

Hello All,

I have reply some of the message in here and I don't see my reply to get
answer from anyone in this list!! Is my e-mail coming through here?



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Re: testing

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Email seem to come through ok.

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Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support mailing list
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: testing

Hello All,

I have reply some of the message in here and I don't see my reply to get
answer from anyone in this list!! Is my e-mail coming through here?



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Re: testing

Laura Shumate
 

Loud and clear! :-) Your fellow musician Laura

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2015, at 8:14 PM, "O.Addison Gethers via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

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I have reply some of the message in here and I don't see my reply to get
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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Pablo Morales
 

Ok, I need to ask you this because Jaws is not reading the start menu. What
I need to run to go back to the installation point. I need to type it not
reading on the start menu, so can you please give me the item or utility
that I need to open to downgrade my old computer to windows 7 again?
Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nermin via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 7:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Nermin
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Hi Pablo,

I don't think it has anything to do with age.
If you want to go back to Windows 7, there is an easier way.
From within Windows 10, you can downgrade and restore the old system during
30 days from the point of installation. Try to see if that works. You won't
have to fiddle with JAWS activations, and your authorisation number should
be retained.
And no, you cannot put the authorisation back onto the FS server.


And here's a tip for anyone wanting to spare the hastle when reinstalling.
Provided your machine stays the same and does not change its locking code
after a reinstall, you can always authorise JAWS by putting JAWS.cps back
onto the drive.
This file can be found in c:\program Files\Freedom Scientific\Activator.

Copy that to a save place, and whenever you have to reinstall your OS, copy
it back to the same place.
You will not have to reauthorise, provided the locking code of the machine
hasn't changed.

Regards,
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O.Addison Gethers
 

Hello All,

I have reply some of the message in here and I don't see my reply to get
answer from anyone in this list!! Is my e-mail coming through here?



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FW: repairing jaws

O.Addison Gethers
 

-----Original Message-----
From: O.Addison Gethers [mailto:O.AddisonGethers@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 8:47 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hello there,
I need to know how to repaired Jaws 16 ? I never know how to repaired jaws
and download from fs website but I have jaws 16 disc !! One of FS support
was trying to do it for me but when she try to jaws tandem she couldn't stay
connect because jaws crashed so she told me that I need to repaired jaws and
download from FS website ! Here what she say in e-mail below !!
Hi,

Here is what I was trying to say on the phone. It seems to me that your jaws
needs to be repaired. when I tried to do tandem while we were on the phone,
jaws stopped speaking and then the tandem crashed, and I could not stay
connected to your computer. it would be helpful if there was a sighted
person on hand to help do the repair since I cannot stay connected to your
computer through tandem. In order to repair jaws, we need to download jaws
from the freedom scientific web site, and then run a repair.

Is it hard for me to repaired jaws without sighter help and I'm hard of
hearing ?
Addison


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:06 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Les Kriegler
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I typed from the run dialog, jaws16 /type repair and only heard Jaws
Professional. Can you provide the syntax again? Thanks.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and Jenna
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 10:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Hi,

I am not sure if this has been responded to or not but if you go to the run
box brous to ware you have your jaws.exe then hitand hit space and at the
end do /type repair and that will work as well.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Les Kriegler <kriegler@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: RE: repairing jaws

Mark, I think if you run the jfw.exe file, you will eventually be given an
option to perform a repair of Jaws.

Les

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:52 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Mark Furness
Subject: repairing jaws

Every time I start my computer, jaws keeps on saying there is 2 things that
are not installed correctly. I have tried a reboot as it suggested. But,
that did not fix the problem. It also suggested to do a repair. All I haave
is the downloaded filees. How then do I do a repair?

Thank you for getting me out of this mess!!!

Mark
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Re: removing jaws license

Russell Solowoniuk
 

Hi,

I think you have 30 days from the date you updated to Windows 10 to roll
back to your previous operating system. I'm not sure if Jaws will still be
there when you roll back though. If it's not, FS gives you 3 activations of
Jaws, so, it depends on how many of those you have used. If you don't have
any activations left, you just need to contact FS and they will re-set your
count back to 3. If you are interested in rolling back to Windows 7, here
are the instructions...

How to downgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 7 or Windows 8.1

Introduction

So Windows 10 is finally here. You've taken your free upgrade, poked around
with the new flat design, Microsoft Edge, Cortana, and the whole shebang -
yet something isn't sitting right.

Whether you've run into issues with hardware, incompatible work apps, or
just plain don't like the direction Microsoft went with Windows 10, you may
want to consider rolling back to Windows 8.1 or 7. Thankfully, what may have
been a bit of a pain in the past is now a fairly simple process.

Because breaking up with Cortana can be hard to do, we've put together this
quick guide to help you make it through the emotional turmoil.

Some things to consider

There are a couple of things you should know before starting the rollback
process. The first is that you only have a month to decide whether you want
to stick with Microsoft's latest or ditch it for more familiar digs. Once
that month is up, you'll have to resort to recovery media that either came
with your computer or that you created yourself.

It's also unclear right now if users coming from Windows XP will be able to
roll back. So far, Microsoft has been quiet on that front, only mentioning
Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 as options.

Before you start

Now, with the fine print out of the way, you'll want to ensure your data is
safe and perform a quick check to make sure you can roll back. First, as
with any major system-wide change, we'd recommend backing up your important
files and pictures. Cloud storage offerings, like Dropbox and OneDrive, are
your friends here. However, if you have any sensitive files to back up, we'd
recommend doing so locally on an external hard drive.

And because you're rolling back to a previous install, this process will
obviously only work if you upgraded directly from Windows 7, 8, or 8.1. One
thing you'll want to look for is a folder called "Windows.old" in your C
directory. This contains the necessary files from your old Windows install,
and the rollback won't work without it.

It's go time

After you've backed up your important files and checked that you can indeed
roll back, the process is incredibly simple. To get started, click the start
menu and navigate to the settings app. Once it's open, you'll click through
to the section called "Update & Security."

You'll be taken to the Windows Update page by default, but that isn't what
we're concerned with. In the left pane, there will be an option called
"recovery," and that's where we'll be doing our work. You should now see
several recovery options, but the one that you'll want to go with is called
"Go back to a previous version of Windows." Simply click the button to get
started, and Windows will do its thing.

A few odds and ends

Before Windows dives into the process of rolling everything back, you'll be
prompted to provide the reason you are rolling back. Consider doing
Microsoft a solid and leaving some feedback here. And don't worry: you won't
hurt their feelings.

You'll then go through a couple of screens telling you to keep your PC
plugged in and which files will be preserved in the transition. As a note,
you might need your old password when this is finished, so be sure to
consult your password stash for that.

After you click through the screens, Windows will ask you one last time if
you want to roll back. After clicking through, Windows will restart and
begin the process. This may take a while depending on a number of things, so
you may want to read a book or play some Angry Birds while you wait
Welcome back!

And with that, you should find yourself back to Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 once
Windows finishes doing its thing. There's a chance that you could be missing
some important files, but as long as you heeded our advice and backed things
up, it should be easy to restore them.

If for some reason something went wrong with the process and you find
yourself in an unsavory place, you may have to resort to a clean install
using the recovery media that came with your machine or a USB install disk.
This can be a bit of a pain if you don't have one lying around, but our
guide to creating a Windows 8 USB installer should be of some use

Here is the website this is taken from...

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/how-to-downgrade
-from-windows-10-to-windows-8-or-windows-7-1300286

HTH

Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:51 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Pablo Morales <pablocmd2014@gmail.com>
Subject: removing jaws license

Hi all guys,

I think that my old computer, doesn't like windows 10 so much, and it is
working very slow, opening programs like Outlook 2007, it takes forever to
open. So I am thinking that probably will be healthy for my old computer go
back to windows 7. I have been reading on internet, that If I have the media
of windows 7, I just need to reinstall windows 7 on my computer like
formatting the whole hard drive. But I am trying to keep my jaws
authorization key, and I read that if I uninstall the license on my older
computer, I will not add this key in the fs server, so I will need to call
FS and ask them another key. It is true?
It doesn't make any sense, but can someone confirm that if I uninstall the
license in my computer, I will not be able to use it again, unless I call FS
and ask them for another key?
Thanks


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Re: removing jaws license

Mario
 

I believe you need to call FS for another license. removing the existing license does not put the key back.

On 8/8/2015 6:51 PM, Pablo Morales via Jfw wrote:
Hi all guys,

I think that my old computer, doesn't like windows 10 so much, and it is
working very slow, opening programs like Outlook 2007, it takes forever to
open. So I am thinking that probably will be healthy for my old computer go
back to windows 7. I have been reading on internet, that If I have the media
of windows 7, I just need to reinstall windows 7 on my computer like
formatting the whole hard drive. But I am trying to keep my jaws
authorization key, and I read that if I uninstall the license on my older
computer, I will not add this key in the fs server, so I will need to call
FS and ask them another key. It is true?
It doesn't make any sense, but can someone confirm that if I uninstall the
license in my computer, I will not be able to use it again, unless I call FS
and ask them for another key?
Thanks


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Thanks for making this more clear. Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 4:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

I don't see why not. Before they do anything, though, make sure to retrieve
your Windows 10 product key. Otherwise, you may not be able to activate
Windows 10.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 10:40 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

My computer needs repair. Can tech take all software off hard disc, put
win10 and Office 2010 then download J16 without doing a repair on J16?

Could be a silly question but I would like to know for sure.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:45 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Aidan
Subject: Re: Installation of Windows 10

Because the upgrade will change technical components and the way jaws
interact with windows so you must repair jaws.
So josef, just too things. If I use the media creation tool, can I build an
iso wich include a product key and where will I find the key if it being the
case? And also, will I stil need sighted help or a talking desktop bootable
when using that tool for install? If not, does that mean you build the
complete install, or just the windows iso you need like it comes on the dvd?

On 08/08/2015, Jim Portillo via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:
Why do I need to run an repair on JAWS?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike and
Jenna via Jfw
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:10 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Mike and Jenna
Subject: RE: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I used both jfw 16 and narrator and I had no problems. Once you are
upgraded you need to run a repair on jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Portillo via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Jim Portillo <portillo.jim@gmail.com>
Subject: Installation of Windows 10

Hi,

I know there's been much discussion of various aspects related to this
topic. However, I'd like to know if anyone here has successfully
installed
or upgraded to Windows 10 independently.
Did you use JAWS 16 or Narrator or both? I'm ready to install this
but don't know that I'll have a sighted person around to help, so want
to make sure I can do this with one or two screen readers.
Any tips will be helpful.
I've got my machine set and ready to go.
Jim


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Re: Installation of Windows 10

Nermin
 

Hi Pablo,

I don't think it has anything to do with age.
If you want to go back to Windows 7, there is an easier way.
From within Windows 10, you can downgrade and restore the old system during
30 days from the point of installation. Try to see if that works. You won't have to fiddle with JAWS activations, and your authorisation number should be retained.
And no, you cannot put the authorisation back onto the FS server.


And here's a tip for anyone wanting to spare the hastle when reinstalling.
Provided your machine stays the same and does not change its locking code after a reinstall, you can always authorise JAWS by putting JAWS.cps back onto the drive.
This file can be found in c:\program Files\Freedom Scientific\Activator.

Copy that to a save place, and whenever you have to reinstall your OS, copy it back to the same place.
You will not have to reauthorise, provided the locking code of the machine hasn't changed.

Regards,
Nermin


Basics of Scripting Manual

Paul Martz <skewmatrix@...>
 

The JAWS Basics of Scripting Manual is located here:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/ScriptManual/01-0_I
ntroduction.htm

I found a reference to this in the JAWS help topics, under Script Manager,
but the link in the help topic erroneously took me to the Freedom Scientific
downloads page. So, I did a web search to find where it actually lives, and
thought I'd post it here.
-Paul


Re: balarc advisor:

Charles Krugman
 

regardless if its compatible you could copy the product key information from Belarc advisor in to a word document and enter it that way.
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenny via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 2:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Kenny
Subject: balarc advisor:

Hi what version of balarc advisor is compatible with windows 10?
Kenny Peyatt

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