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moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Richard Turner
 

Everyone experiencing this, please contact Freedom Scientific.

 

Changing the icon name does nothing for me, no desktop shortcuts work.

This is not true for everyone, but for those of us for whom it is true, it is a pain in the butt!

 

I now either use the Windows 1 through 0 keys for programs pinned to the task bar, or I tap the Windows Key and type enough of the name to get a match and hit enter.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

I too have had no joy with desktop shortcuts ever since installing JAWS 2020.  It is not only the JAWS hot key that doesn’t work, but all of my short cuts that quit working.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:06 AM

Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

From a fellow sufferer of this bug, I’m guessing she is running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, or 2019 on Windows 10.  I reported this bug last year to FS and discovered that only a few people had this issue.

Eric Damery did a tandem session with me and he could observe it on my machine, this  was still with Jaws 2019.

They thought they had solved it in 2020, which did work fine for about 4 days.

Then, I lost the ability to use the shortcuts I had created.

So, I switched to using the pin to task bar, I think it is called, where Windows Key plus 1 launches the first program in the order pinned, etc.

 

I am the only user of this machine, I have admin rights up the ying yang, yet, they do not seem to know what causes this.

This is a Del Inspiron  57 something or other, laptop.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Downloading files from a shared Google Drive folder

Brian Vogel
 

Am I safe in presuming you have a link to the file you wish to download, e.g., https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B98uELZbPFnOejZOVWlyRVBYYzg/view?usp=sharing?

If you activate such a link on the view screen there is a download control.  If you activate it you'll get a regular file save dialog.

I personally prefer to snag the FileID field from the link, in this case it's the long string of characters that starts with 0B and ends with zq, and tacking it on the end of this URL where FILEID is at the end:  https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=FILEID

So I'd end up with https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOejZOVWlyRVBYYzg 
which should cause a save dialog to come up immediately when activated.  I wish I knew a way to tell Google Drive to treat any file I attempt to access as though the intention is to download it, but I know of no way of doing that.

If you don't have a link to the file, what are you being supplied with?
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moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Marty Hutchings
 

I too have had no joy with desktop shortcuts ever since installing JAWS 2020.  It is not only the JAWS hot key that doesn’t work, but all of my short cuts that quit working.
 
Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
 

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS
 

From a fellow sufferer of this bug, I’m guessing she is running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, or 2019 on Windows 10.  I reported this bug last year to FS and discovered that only a few people had this issue.

Eric Damery did a tandem session with me and he could observe it on my machine, this  was still with Jaws 2019.

They thought they had solved it in 2020, which did work fine for about 4 days.

Then, I lost the ability to use the shortcuts I had created.

So, I switched to using the pin to task bar, I think it is called, where Windows Key plus 1 launches the first program in the order pinned, etc.

 

I am the only user of this machine, I have admin rights up the ying yang, yet, they do not seem to know what causes this.

This is a Del Inspiron  57 something or other, laptop.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 
moderated Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Adrian Spratt
 

I skipped past several messages on this topic and so I don't know if this suggestion was also made.

I used to have the problem of the disappearing control-alt-j shortcut until an FS tech support guy told me to rename the icon. Ever since, I've added the word "shortcut" in the icons for every version of JAWS on my desktop. I'm trying to remember if I created the control-alt-j shortcut before or after renaming the icon. I'm guessing I do that first.

Example: JAWS 2020 shortcut

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you can okay the change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open
JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open
NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and
she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the
problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or
something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David
moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Adrian Spratt
 

I tried to open a PDF file in Word 2016 the other day, but I got a message requiring a subscription fee.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Martineau
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

With Microsoft 365, and probably with stand-alone Word versions for a while, opening in PDF is a free feature.  I used to use the SendTo menu to send documents to Word, now I’ve just made it the default.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.

 

I can't remember the name.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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moderated Downloading files from a shared Google Drive folder

Chantal Ferreira
 

Good afternoon All

How does one download a file from a shared Google Drive folder? I'm
using Jaws 2020 and Google Chrome.

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

--
Kind regards

Chantal
moderated Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

David Griffith
 

 

I have used Zoom on many occasions on a laptop without a camera so no you do not need one. The participants hear you but there is no view obviously of you just an icon with your name.

In fact for many Zoom meetings   you do not even need a computer or smart phone being able to access them with a normal landline phone.

About 50% of those attending my NFB meetings access Zoom in this way.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rick Miller
Sent: 17 July 2020 21:45
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I don’t have one on my computer either.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sherri
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

 

Sherri

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jon Nixey
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

 

Cheers, Jon

 
moderated Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

Rick Miller
 

I don’t have one on my computer either.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sherri
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

 

Sherri

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jon Nixey
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

 

Cheers, Jon
moderated Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view

Rick Miller
 

I am taking part in a class at church via zoom. The host had e-mailed everybody saying that if you just wanted to listen then you could be in the full screen view, but if you wanted to talk you had to be in the Gallery view.



Rick Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Covici
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view

What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? Maybe we could give
you better advise.

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:51:16 -0400,
Rick Miller wrote:

So would that mean I would have to purchase a webcamera?



Rick Miller


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 5:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom--gallery view

In the Zoom book from Carol Center it gives the keystrokes alt+f2,
and to switch to speaker view is alt+f1. You can also tab to these
settings, a third one being full screen. the book points out that if
video is turned off, so are gallery view and speaker view.
At 03:47 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
I tried that too, but it didn't work.



Rick Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:53 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom

I read somewhere that ctrl+f2 would do it.
At 01:26 PM 7/14/2020, you wrote:
Okay, but does anybody know how to get into the Gallery view?



Rick Miller

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS and Zoom

Hi. I can answer a couple of your questions.
First, you get to the participant list by pressing alt-U. You have
to tab around until you get to the list of names; then you can arrow
up and down. This is somewhat buggy. They claim they're going to fix
it so that every time you get into the participant list you'll be
put in the list of names by default, but they haven't fixed it yet.
To chat with a participant, you have to open the chat panel. You do
this by pressing alt-H. That opens the chat panel. You then tab
around until you find the names of participants and press enter on
the name of the person you want to chat with. By default it's set to
send a chat to everyone.
Hope this helps.
John Riehl


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 12:19 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS and Zoom

Dear Listers:

I am taking part in a class at church via Zoom. I know how to join
a meeting and how to mute and unmute my microphone, but there are a
few things I am having problems with. First, when you join a
meeting, how do you get to the Gallery view using JAWS? Also, when
I get to the list of participants JAWS won't read the list whenever
I arrow up and down. Also, I know there is a spot where it says,
"Find a participant." I assume you enter the person's name and then
the person's name will show. But if you want to send a message to
that participant, how do you do it? Whenever I find the "Find
Participant," link and enter the person's name, when I tab again it
just gives me the option to either clear the search or cancel. So
what does this mean?



Rick Miller











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moderated Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

Sherri
 

I’m pretty sure you have to have a camera.  I don’t have one on my computer and that’s what I was told by Jaws.

 

Sherri

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 4:41 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jon Nixey
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

 

Cheers, Jon
moderated Re: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

Rick Miller
 

I did try this when I was in a meeting, but I didn’t hear a sound or a word of confirmation.  I think Gallery is a visual setting, and I don’t think you can enter into it unless you have a camera.  I could be wrong.

 

 

 

Rick Miller

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jon Nixey
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 2:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Alt + F2 takes you in to the gallery view in Zoom

 

According to the latest release of Zoom, Alt F2 takes you into the gallery view. I believe you have to be on a meeting screen for this to take effect.

 

Cheers, Jon
moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

Marie
 

If you think about it, One year of DropBox with 1TB is around $120. You can get a one year subscription to Office 365 which you can share with family members. Each member can install on five systems and each one gets their own 1TB of One Drive space. In addition, as long as you are subscribed you get all updates to all the Office programs.

It's not rocket science!

On 7/17/2020 11:22 AM, David Diamond wrote:

I believe with an outlook or Hotmail account you get 5 Gs free of one drive space.  Not bad if you don’t need it.  Myself I ran out of the 5 Gs rather quickly as basically everything in my drop box is in my one drive now. 

moderated Re: drag and drop with Jaws

Teresa
 




 10R

On Jul 13, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:


Hi Teresa,
 
Sometimes it requires more than 1 or 2 attempts:
Use the keystroke, CTRL, INSERT, + NUMPAD SLASH) for Drag and Drop .
This is used to drag items from one location and drop them in another.
Position the JAWS Cursor on the item you wish to move and press,
CTRL, INSERT + NUMPAD SLASH
You can leave the JAWS Cursor active, or you can switch to the PC Cursor. JAWS will keep speaking as you navigate. Once you have positioned
the JAWS or PC Cursor in the location to which you would like to move the item press,
CTRL, INSERT + NUMPAD SLASH
again, and the item will be moved to the position of the active cursor.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody.
----- Original Message -----
From: Teresa
To: JFW
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 6:55 AM
Subject: drag and drop with Jaws

Good morning list: I have jaws 2020 and I am running windows 10. Is it possible to drag and drop with Jaws? If yes, how would I do that? Thanks in advance. Teresa

  10R my iPhone  10O

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moderated Re: Question for those using One Drive at home

David Diamond
 

I believe with an outlook or Hotmail account you get 5 Gs free of one drive space.  Not bad if you don’t need it.  Myself I ran out of the 5 Gs rather quickly as basically everything in my drop box is in my one drive now. 

moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Bill White
 

Hi, Sharon. In order to copy text through speech history, you must first have JAWS read the text through Say All, then, once JAWS has read the text, use JAWS key plus SPACE, followed by the letter H.

This will take you to JAWS Speech History. Speech History will only save a few lines, however. Once in Speech History, CONTROL plus A will select all text within Speech History, and once selected, all the text within Speech History can be copied to the clipboard, and pasted into whichever application as desired, such as Notepad, Microsoft Word, or into an email message.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:33 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Copy text through speech history?
Can you elaborate on how to do so?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Only problems in Chrome are:
A. Copying text directly is not possible. You have to do it through speech history.
B. More importantly, you cannot navigate the document in para-wise form. Either you must go line by line or say all. The paras are not cleanly presented, as they are in Adobe.

But still better than Adobe.

Rahul
On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm a fan of opening them in Word by default, but Chrome is good
also. I'm not sure on what basis to choose one over the other.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi,

The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to
select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its
own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to
another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to
bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried.
That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail
to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around
it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff
up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page
word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do?

Rahul
moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Brian Vogel
 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 01:29 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts them to word.
Unless you have a really, really old version of Office, Word itself has been able to read in PDFs and save them out as MS-Word format it you so choose.  Many don't bother saving the converted result, but prefer to read the PDF in MS-Word.

The conversion is not always perfect, but it's generally pretty darned good if the PDF is not an ancient image-scanned PDF.
 
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moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

With Microsoft 365, and probably with stand-alone Word versions for a while, opening in PDF is a free feature.  I used to use the SendTo menu to send documents to Word, now I’ve just made it the default.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.

 

I can't remember the name.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Sharon
 

Copy text through speech history?
Can you elaborate on how to do so?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:10 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Only problems in Chrome are:
A. Copying text directly is not possible. You have to do it through speech history.
B. More importantly, you cannot navigate the document in para-wise form. Either you must go line by line or say all. The paras are not cleanly presented, as they are in Adobe.

But still better than Adobe.

Rahul
On Jul 17, 2020, at 8:44 PM, Dean Martineau <topdot@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm a fan of opening them in Word by default, but Chrome is good
also. I'm not sure on what basis to choose one over the other.



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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:58 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi,

The best reading experience for PDF files is in Chrome I believe.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: 24 June 2020 19:42
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to
select all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.

Bill White
billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence

Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its
own accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to
another. and has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to
bring it back where I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried.
That I might miss some vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail
to notice the jump. Does anyone else face this? How do you get around
it? Converting every pdf into word is not very viable.. and can muff
up footnotes. Copy pasting it into word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page
word doc. And makes quick reading very hard. So what can one do?

Rahul
moderated printing to pdf

Sharon
 

Why can I print to pdf using Google Chrome sometimes, but not be able to do so on other web pages?

Can MS Edge do this as well?

Sometimes I want to safe a web page but cannot seem to select all text or if I can select it, copy and paste do not work.

Sharon

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

Justin Williams
 

I remember hearing about a pdf converter which converts thme to word.

 

I can't remember the name.

 

Justin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 1:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence

 

Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

The purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it.
       ~ Lawrence Krauss
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