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moderated how do I uninstall what I believe is a corrupted download of draws 2020?

Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 

hi,
I downloaded Jaws 2020 onto a new computer today and ran the install. The computer got hung up for several hours, after which I shut down the computer and rebooted. Upon rebooting,Jawsspoke, but only haltingly.
can someone please remind me of the best way to completely uninstall what I believe to be a corrupted download so I can reinstall a clean version?

Many, many thanks in advance. Keith

moderated Re: upgrading Jaws

Vaughn Brown
 

I second Richard on all accounts.
Did you try cleaning between the keys? I use a small amount of rubbing
alcohol as it evaporates after a short time and will not damage any
sticky areas.
I am using JAWS 2020 and enjoy it. I did the $90/year subscription.
Again, your situation with JAWS is based on affordability.
Hope this helps.
Vaughn

On 1/12/20, Richard Turner <richardturner42@...> wrote:
First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be
a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve
your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would
need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them
in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right
into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your
situation.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane
Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:


I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like
to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you
want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current
version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key
appearing as jammed down?
Alison




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Vaughn Brown
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moderated Re: upgrading Jaws

Richard Turner
 

First, the problem with the keys acting like they are jammed down may not be a Jaws issue, so no one should say one way or the other if that will solve your problem.
Maybe you could specify what you have tried already to resolve that issue.
The current version is Jaws 2020, so if you have just Jaws 18, you would need 2018, 2019 and 2020, but since you get a little better deal doing them in groups of two, you may want to do through 2021.
Or, you could go with the subscription model at $90 per year and jump right into the 2020 version.
You'll have to do the math to see which makes the most sense in your situation.
HTH,




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 12, 2020, at 8:01 AM, CJ &AA MAY <chrisalismay@...> wrote:



I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: upgrading Jaws

CJ &AA MAY
 

I was given a free migration from Window-eyes to Jaws 18 but would now like to upgrade. I see the price varies dependent upon how many upgrades you want. How many would I need to have the current version? Would the current version get rid of this problem I am having with the alt and windows key appearing as jammed down?

Alison

moderated Re: jaws announcing tables

Mike B
 

Hi George,
 
What did FS do to fix your issue?  Please share.

Take care.  Mike.  Sennt from my iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: george b
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: jaws announcing tables

No f s fixed mine for me that was a cop out on behalf of that agent

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: January 12, 2020 6:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws announcing tables

When I talked with FS about this, the suggestion was to copy into Notepad
instead of Word, so the table formatting isn't shone.
At 01:15 AM 1/12/2020, you wrote:
>Is there a way to turn off Jaws' announcements of tables when reading
>documents?
>I'm helping an elderly friend who receives a lot of interesting
>articles that have been copied from a web site, then saved in Word.
>When reading, Jaws announces the Table with so many rows and columns.
>Is it possible to turn that off so it just reads the text?
>Thanks,
>Richard
>
>
>
>
>Richard
>"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
>-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
>Jane Wagner
>
>







moderated Re: jaws announcing tables

george b
 

No f s fixed mine for me that was a cop out on behalf of that agent

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: January 12, 2020 6:11
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: jaws announcing tables

When I talked with FS about this, the suggestion was to copy into Notepad
instead of Word, so the table formatting isn't shone.
At 01:15 AM 1/12/2020, you wrote:
Is there a way to turn off Jaws' announcements of tables when reading
documents?
I'm helping an elderly friend who receives a lot of interesting
articles that have been copied from a web site, then saved in Word.
When reading, Jaws announces the Table with so many rows and columns.
Is it possible to turn that off so it just reads the text?
Thanks,
Richard




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by
Jane Wagner

moderated Re: jaws announcing tables

Ann Byrne
 

When I talked with FS about this, the suggestion was to copy into Notepad instead of Word, so the table formatting isn't shone.

At 01:15 AM 1/12/2020, you wrote:
Is there a way to turn off Jaws' announcements of tables when reading documents?
I'm helping an elderly friend who receives a lot of interesting articles that have been copied from a web site, then saved in Word.
When reading, Jaws announces the Table with so many rows and columns.
Is it possible to turn that off so it just reads the text?
Thanks,
Richard




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

David Goldfield
 

I'm familiar with Jackie. She definitely knows her business but I had no idea she could write JAWS scripts. I'm not surprised, though.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/12/2020 7:52 AM, Rod wrote:

Jackie McBride on this list is also superb and talented. You can’t go wrong with her.
 
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 
From: David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts
 

For customized JAWS script writing I highly recommend Brian Hartgen, who is just amazing.

You can also contact Level Access as well as the Paciello Group.




David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 11:57 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:
HI Sieghard,

Will do, thank you so much!

Sarah

On 1/10/2020 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
You could contact Brian Hartgen from Hartgen Consultancy<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hartgen.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C613d1841d00b4e83e24008d795ee3dc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637142722772780854&amp;sdata=MHezIWISODf%2F9ePGHMoRdixkTMzpgzcbFJQJxCJR9rM%3D&amp;reserved=0>, he's probably as good as they get.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts



Hi all,



I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with inof on this I'd really appreciate it.



Thanks in advance,



Sarah














moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

Rod
 

Jackie McBride on this list is also superb and talented. You can’t go wrong with her.
 
 

Rod Alcidonis, Esq.
 

From: David Goldfield
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 3:01 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts
 

For customized JAWS script writing I highly recommend Brian Hartgen, who is just amazing.

You can also contact Level Access as well as the Paciello Group.




David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 11:57 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:
HI Sieghard,

Will do, thank you so much!

Sarah

On 1/10/2020 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
You could contact Brian Hartgen from Hartgen Consultancy<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hartgen.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C613d1841d00b4e83e24008d795ee3dc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637142722772780854&amp;sdata=MHezIWISODf%2F9ePGHMoRdixkTMzpgzcbFJQJxCJR9rM%3D&amp;reserved=0>, he's probably as good as they get.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts



Hi all,



I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with inof on this I'd really appreciate it.



Thanks in advance,



Sarah














moderated Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

Adrian Spratt
 

Tom, where is the “default settings section”? I’m still having the problem, and I’m hoping your solution will also be mine. Thanks.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 2:44 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

Hi,

 

Thanks to all those who answered my query regarding jaws reading some  emails as tables.

 

The problem now seems to have been fixed after changing all tables to data tables in the default settings section.

 

Cheers

 

Tom

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2020 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

Tom,

You have to be very specific in how you search for this item, as follows:

 

Open an email message in Outlook and place focus in it. The “Layout table” item won’t appear otherwise.

Press JAWS key+v.

An edit field appears.

Type the six letters t a b l e s.

Now press enter.

Arrow down until JAWS verbalizes “Layout table, ignore.”

Once there, press the spacebar to cycle between checked or unchecked. You want the item checked.

 

I hope it makes a difference on your system. Sadly, it hasn’t on mine.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

Hi Jonathan and thanks for your reply.

 

Unfortunately I was unable to locate anything using the term, “layout tables”in the Jaws quick settings.   

 

Tom

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2020 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

First off verify that you have "layout" tables ignored  in your JAWS quick settings.  Also, there is aa Outlook function to "View in Browser", this used to be in the ribbon, but it seems to be hidden these days, and if activated warns you that the Browser is has a different security configuration from Outlook. You can add it into the Quick Access Bar if you think it would be useful.

Hopefully one of these will help,
Jonathan
 

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

David Goldfield
 

I'm actually working my way through Brian Hartgen's JAWS script writing course. I'm finding it very easy but I am in no way an expert and am not ready to write customized scripts for others, as of now.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 11:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

You could contact Brian Hartgen from Hartgen Consultancy, he's probably as good as they get.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

 

Hi all,

 

I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with inof on this I'd really appreciate it.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sarah

 

 

 

moderated Re: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts

David Goldfield
 

For customized JAWS script writing I highly recommend Brian Hartgen, who is just amazing.

You can also contact Level Access as well as the Paciello Group.




David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/10/2020 11:57 AM, Rayn Darren wrote:

HI Sieghard,

Will do, thank you so much!

Sarah

On 1/10/2020 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
You could contact Brian Hartgen from Hartgen Consultancy<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hartgen.org%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C613d1841d00b4e83e24008d795ee3dc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637142722772780854&amp;sdata=MHezIWISODf%2F9ePGHMoRdixkTMzpgzcbFJQJxCJR9rM%3D&amp;reserved=0>, he's probably as good as they get.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:05 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: ISO someone who writes Jaws scripts



Hi all,



I have a client who's looking for a particular script to be written for Jaws, he has 2020. This script needs to announce the numbers as they change in a stock ticker. These are updated in real time. If anyone could help with inof on this I'd really appreciate it.



Thanks in advance,



Sarah














moderated Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

tom x
 

Hi,

 

Thanks to all those who answered my query regarding jaws reading some  emails as tables.

 

The problem now seems to have been fixed after changing all tables to data tables in the default settings section.

 

Cheers

 

Tom

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, 10 January 2020 2:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

Tom,

You have to be very specific in how you search for this item, as follows:

 

Open an email message in Outlook and place focus in it. The “Layout table” item won’t appear otherwise.

Press JAWS key+v.

An edit field appears.

Type the six letters t a b l e s.

Now press enter.

Arrow down until JAWS verbalizes “Layout table, ignore.”

Once there, press the spacebar to cycle between checked or unchecked. You want the item checked.

 

I hope it makes a difference on your system. Sadly, it hasn’t on mine.

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of tom x
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 11:15 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

Hi Jonathan and thanks for your reply.

 

Unfortunately I was unable to locate anything using the term, “layout tables”in the Jaws quick settings.   

 

Tom

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2020 6:17 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: latest Jaws and emails reading as tables

 

First off verify that you have "layout" tables ignored  in your JAWS quick settings.  Also, there is aa Outlook function to "View in Browser", this used to be in the ribbon, but it seems to be hidden these days, and if activated warns you that the Browser is has a different security configuration from Outlook. You can add it into the Quick Access Bar if you think it would be useful.

Hopefully one of these will help,
Jonathan
 

moderated Re: jaws announcing tables

David Goldfield
 

Richard,

When in Microsoft Word press insert+V for the JAWS Quick Settings dialog.

Down arrow to Tables and you should find three options. You can disable any of these, including table detection.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 1/12/2020 2:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

Is there a way to turn off Jaws' announcements of tables when reading documents?
I'm helping an elderly friend who receives a lot of interesting articles that have been copied from a web site, then saved in Word.
When reading, Jaws announces the Table with so many rows and columns.
Is it possible to turn that off so it just reads the text?
Thanks,
Richard




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

moderated jaws announcing tables

Richard Turner
 

Is there a way to turn off Jaws' announcements of tables when reading documents?
I'm helping an elderly friend who receives a lot of interesting articles that have been copied from a web site, then saved in Word.
When reading, Jaws announces the Table with so many rows and columns.
Is it possible to turn that off so it just reads the text?
Thanks,
Richard




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

Cristóbal
 

Generally yes I would agree. There is a site I use from time to time for more technical stuff, but on a whole, Google Translate is probably the answer.

On a side note, I actually just finished installing the Google translate extension on my laptop with Chrome and one thing I noticed when running the extension for a word I was trying to get the translation for, was that the buttons seem to be unlabeled. I tried turning off the virtual cursor and tabbing around since sometimes I can get the description that way, but nope. Jaws just says button.

I don’t know if you can lend your eyes and take a peak Brian and maybe give a quick hand? To be clear this isn’t in regards to the Google Translate site, but rather the extension itself.

Thanks,

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

 

I have to believe that Google Translate is accessible, and it would take only a few moments to test out if it would meet your need.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

 

I have to believe that Google Translate is accessible, and it would take only a few moments to test out if it would meet your need.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or accepting them.

        ~ Joshua Liebman

moderated Re: Accessible English-Spanish translation program?

Richard Turner
 

I've used the Microsoft Translator app, but here is the web site. Worth a try.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/translator/





Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 11, 2020, at 7:16 PM, Tim Ford <ttford@...> wrote:

Hello All,

I have a friend whose English is very limited, and my Spanish is worse.  Is there any easy and accessible program, web page, whatever, that we can use to communicate by typing back and forth on my computer?  

Sincerely,
Tim Ford





moderated Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
I should add here that if that i7 processor is less than $100 extra, by all means go for it. But any more than that and it's a pure waste. But based on your use case scenario it's not going to give you a noticeable difference in performance either way.
Take a look at notebookcheck, especially the models they review with both i5 and i7 processors. The i5's usually score better in batterylife and cooling, and in very few cases can even perform faster than the i7's that, on paper, look the part of outperforming them.
My previous surface book was a prime example.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

It looks under powered with not enough RAM. Spend the extra money for
a faster processor with at least 16 GB of memory. You will be happy
you did. The question should not be what I minimally need but what
could I optimally benefit from?

Kelly

On 1/11/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I would look at the HP envy line of laptops for a more reasonable priced
computer

On 1/11/2020 1:52 PM, Loy wrote:

I am no expert but a 1.7 G Most processors now are in the upper 2 or 3
GHZ.HZ seems very slow. I have 12 year laptop that has a 1.7 GHZ
processor.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwood12@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Hi,

This looks fine.

If you can at all afford it, I would recommend making that 2 x 8 gb
ram, especially if you plan on keeping the machine for years to come.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jim
Rawls
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 12:44 PM
*To:* jimrawls <jazzpiano@... <mailto:jazzpiano@...>>
*Subject:* FW: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Hi all, I am thinking of getting this computer. I will be using it
for the usual stuff, email, surfing the net, and getting music to
use for my internet radio show. Does this look good enough for this?
I would appreciate your comments. Thanks, Jim

**

**

*Dell Latitude 7390*

Dell Latitude 7390, CTO

*Processor*

8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-8350U Processor (Quad Core, 6MB Cache,
1.7GHz,15W)

*Operating System*

Windows 10 Pro 64bit English, French, Spanish

*Windows AutoPilot*

No Windows AutoPilot

*Processor information*

Intel® UHD Graphics 620 with Displayport over USB Type C with Core
i5 vPro

*Systems Management*

Intel vPro™ Technology’s Advanced Management Features

*Memory*

8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4 2400MHz Memory

*Hard Drive*

M.2 512GB SATA Class 20 Solid State Drive

*LCD*

13.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) Embedded Touch Anti-Glare, IR Cam/Mic, WLAN
capable, Narrow Bezel, Aluminum

*Internal Keyboard*

Internal English Keyboard, Backlit

*Mouse*

No Mouse Selected

*Driver*

Intel® Dual-Band Wireless-AC 8265 Wi-Fi + BT 4.2 Wireless Driver
(2x2)

*Wireless*

Intel® Dual-Band Wireless-AC 8265 Wi-Fi + BT 4.2 Wireless Card
(2x2), SAR

*PalmRest*

Single Pointing, 82 key, Smartcard, Contactless Smartcard, FP
Reader, Displayport Type C, Aluminum

*Mobile Broadband*

No Mobile Broadband Card

*Primary Battery*

(4-cell) 60 Whr Express Charge Capable

*Power Supply*

65W AC Adapter, 3-pin

*Cable*

Power Cord, US

*Placemat*

Quick Reference Guide, English/French

*Canada Ship Options*

US No Canada Ship Charge

*Diagnostic CD / Diskette*

No Resource DVD

*Documentation/Disks*

Safety/Environment and Regulatory Guide (English/French)

*ENERGY STAR*

Not ENERGY STAR Qualified

*FGA Module*

No FGA

*Label*

Regulatory Label Included

*Packaging*

MIX SHIP Config (DAO)

*Configuration Details*

Flex 4

*Processor Branding*

8th Gen Intel Core i5 vPro Label

*TAA*

No TAA

*Transportation from ODM to region*

Standard Shipment

*UPC Label*

No UPC Label

*Hardware Support Services*

3 Years Hardware Warranty with Onsite/In-Home Service after Remote
Diagnosis

*Microsoft Office*

Microsoft Office 30 Day Trial

*Security Software*

McAfee® Small Business Security 30 Day Free Trial

*Docks & Port Replicators*

No Docking Station

*Non-Microsoft Application Software*

Software for Windows 10

*Operating System Recovery Options*

No Media

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laptops $699 or more!Details

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On Jan 10, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Shen Kuan <SKuan@...
<mailto:SKuan@...>> wrote:

Hi,
Sorry screenshots don't help me. But Jim did include the model
number in his email so I will use that to see what it is.




Shen Kuan
Access Technology Coordinator
LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1155 Market ST FL10
San Francisco, CA 94103
415-694-7312
lighthouse-sf.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alta Rawls <blickeybear@...
<mailto:blickeybear@...>>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 8:39 PM
To: Shen Kuan <SKuan@...
<mailto:SKuan@...>>
Subject: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls



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moderated Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
<rant time>
The difference between that i5 and a faster processor in 2019-2020 is minimal at best - we're talking literally 100 to 200 MHZ and absolutely 0 percent in real world performance - might as well call it 1 mhz per dollar. You will however add yourself a nice chunk of batterylife when getting that i5, as well as just a little less heat. Gone are the days when an i7 was 20-30% faster on a laptop of this size. Jaws won't care that your computer is running at 3.8 ghz rather than 4 ghz, and neither will anything else. And at the end of the day, that i5 may actually run better - i7's of this generation are notoriously bad for thermal throttling when working hard.
Put that money elsewhere - perhaps towards a 1 tb SSD or 16 gb of ram instead of 8. <end rant>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

It looks under powered with not enough RAM. Spend the extra money for
a faster processor with at least 16 GB of memory. You will be happy
you did. The question should not be what I minimally need but what
could I optimally benefit from?

Kelly

On 1/11/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I would look at the HP envy line of laptops for a more reasonable priced
computer

On 1/11/2020 1:52 PM, Loy wrote:

I am no expert but a 1.7 G Most processors now are in the upper 2 or 3
GHZ.HZ seems very slow. I have 12 year laptop that has a 1.7 GHZ
processor.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tyler Wood <mailto:tcwood12@...>
*To:* main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:06 PM
*Subject:* Re: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Hi,

This looks fine.

If you can at all afford it, I would recommend making that 2 x 8 gb
ram, especially if you plan on keeping the machine for years to come.

*From:*main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Jim
Rawls
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 12:44 PM
*To:* jimrawls <jazzpiano@... <mailto:jazzpiano@...>>
*Subject:* FW: Screen shots of Dell cart for Jim Rawls

Hi all, I am thinking of getting this computer. I will be using it
for the usual stuff, email, surfing the net, and getting music to
use for my internet radio show. Does this look good enough for this?
I would appreciate your comments. Thanks, Jim

**

**

*Dell Latitude 7390*

Dell Latitude 7390, CTO

*Processor*

8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-8350U Processor (Quad Core, 6MB Cache,
1.7GHz,15W)

*Operating System*

Windows 10 Pro 64bit English, French, Spanish

*Windows AutoPilot*

No Windows AutoPilot

*Processor information*

Intel® UHD Graphics 620 with Displayport over USB Type C with Core
i5 vPro

*Systems Management*

Intel vPro™ Technology’s Advanced Management Features

*Memory*

8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4 2400MHz Memory

*Hard Drive*

M.2 512GB SATA Class 20 Solid State Drive

*LCD*

13.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) Embedded Touch Anti-Glare, IR Cam/Mic, WLAN
capable, Narrow Bezel, Aluminum

*Internal Keyboard*

Internal English Keyboard, Backlit

*Mouse*

No Mouse Selected

*Driver*

Intel® Dual-Band Wireless-AC 8265 Wi-Fi + BT 4.2 Wireless Driver
(2x2)

*Wireless*

Intel® Dual-Band Wireless-AC 8265 Wi-Fi + BT 4.2 Wireless Card
(2x2), SAR

*PalmRest*

Single Pointing, 82 key, Smartcard, Contactless Smartcard, FP
Reader, Displayport Type C, Aluminum

*Mobile Broadband*

No Mobile Broadband Card

*Primary Battery*

(4-cell) 60 Whr Express Charge Capable

*Power Supply*

65W AC Adapter, 3-pin

*Cable*

Power Cord, US

*Placemat*

Quick Reference Guide, English/French

*Canada Ship Options*

US No Canada Ship Charge

*Diagnostic CD / Diskette*

No Resource DVD

*Documentation/Disks*

Safety/Environment and Regulatory Guide (English/French)

*ENERGY STAR*

Not ENERGY STAR Qualified

*FGA Module*

No FGA

*Label*

Regulatory Label Included

*Packaging*

MIX SHIP Config (DAO)

*Configuration Details*

Flex 4

*Processor Branding*

8th Gen Intel Core i5 vPro Label

*TAA*

No TAA

*Transportation from ODM to region*

Standard Shipment

*UPC Label*

No UPC Label

*Hardware Support Services*

3 Years Hardware Warranty with Onsite/In-Home Service after Remote
Diagnosis

*Microsoft Office*

Microsoft Office 30 Day Trial

*Security Software*

McAfee® Small Business Security 30 Day Free Trial

*Docks & Port Replicators*

No Docking Station

*Non-Microsoft Application Software*

Software for Windows 10

*Operating System Recovery Options*

No Media

$2,885.71

Hide savings

Price includes 69% off through Dell Small Business.Details

- $1,999.06

No interest if paid in full within 90 days on qualifying Latitude
laptops $699 or more!Details

*Item Total:***

*$886.65***

On Jan 10, 2020, at 5:30 PM, Shen Kuan <SKuan@...
<mailto:SKuan@...>> wrote:

Hi,
Sorry screenshots don't help me. But Jim did include the model
number in his email so I will use that to see what it is.




Shen Kuan
Access Technology Coordinator
LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired
1155 Market ST FL10
San Francisco, CA 94103
415-694-7312
lighthouse-sf.org

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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 8:39 PM
To: Shen Kuan <SKuan@...
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