Re: voice assistant question
Marty Hutchings
But, that is just it. I feel that the AI is deciding how I talk by inserting those words.
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Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
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From: Randy Barnett Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 9:12 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question The reality is a lot of people swear and it is just a fact of life. Also it is not up to an AI to decide how you or I talk. That is a personal choice that an AI has no business deciding for us. On 2/6/2021 10:53 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
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Re: voice assistant question
Randy Barnett
The reality is a lot of people swear and it is just a fact of life. Also it is not up to an AI to decide how you or I talk. That is a personal choice that an AI has no business deciding for us.
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On 2/6/2021 10:53 AM, Marty Hutchings wrote:
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Re: voice assistant question
Randy Barnett
On a IPhone the time it takes to correct a message often out ways the effect it will have on the communication. I just don't have the time to go through and retype all the dictation errors in a message. I will if it makes the message unreadable or it is a professional communication.
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On 2/6/2021 8:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes.
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Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.
Randy Barnett
I need to know your secret as I have had this issue with jaws
since 1995...
On 2/6/2021 7:15 AM, Chris Hill wrote:
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Crosspost: Importing Saved Passwords From One Browser To Another
Jasmine Kotsay
Hi, I am trying to sign into a couple of email accounts in Microsoft Edge. I have the passwords from those accounts saved in Chrome, and was wondering if it is possible to import them into Edge, and if so, how to do this?
Sincerely, Jasmine
"Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do." Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
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Re: replying to a gmail message using html view
Jim Ruby
For the hell of it I imported my 2020 settings in to 2021 and still
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did not resolve the problem. 2020 works just fine with no problems. Guess I'll just go back to 2020. I did write to jaws help, but all they wanted me to do was zoom out and keep zooming out until it started working. Well that did nothing and did not fix the issue. .
On 2/6/21, Jim Ruby via groups.io <jimruby67=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
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Re: replying to a gmail message using html view
Jim Ruby
Hi,
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I just fired up jaws version 2020 and it is working just fine. I sent myself an email and I could reply to it just fine. I could stay on that page and send myself multiple replies with no issues.
On 2/6/21, Jim Ruby via groups.io <jimruby67=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
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Re: replying to a gmail message using html view
Jim Ruby
Hi,
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This was not happening in the previous version of jaws 2020. I will have to go to the other machine and try it out again and see if it is still the case. If 2020 works fine still then it is something in jaws 2021.
On 2/5/21, Mike B <mb69mach1@fastmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,
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Re: voice assistant question
Joseph Hudson
Is anybody no if you can say hey Sharky when you're writing a reply to an email and she will insert the text of what you said into an email?
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On Feb 6, 2021, at 10:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@live.ca> wrote:
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Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another
On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 02:53 PM, Barbara Black wrote:
I was using alt F4 which clearly just closed Drive- You're welcome and you're a perfect example of why I generally avoid CTRL+F4. ALT+F4 becomes almost entirely engrained and automatic as frequently as it's used, and you have to think actively about CTRL+F4. Often even when you are doing so, you'll slip up. Since CTRL+W closes a browsing tab in any browser I've ever used I suggest it instead. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another
Barbara Black
Excellent – thank you Brian and Edward! I was using alt F4 which clearly just closed Drive
Barbara
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Edward Green wrote:
- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks
Cristóbal
We just upgraded to QuickBooks desktop after using QB 2009 all this time. My wife does the books for the business so as far as accessibility, I’m not really involved. I do know that we paid $650 for a three year license that includes full support and updates for that time period. The $650 was for two licensed users as my mom needed to upgrade for her business as well. It would have otherwise been something like $400 for just one user for three years. We also used eBates that gave us back 7.5% plus the credit card that gives us back 2% on purchases so that helped cancel out the sales tax. QB should work like any other accounting software after that three year period as it’s just accounting after all, but without the benefits of tech support and whatever bells and whistles they come up with. The only reason we needed to upgrade is because of change of certain tax forms for subcontractors that QB 2009 wasn’t able to generate.
Cristóbal
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:40 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Jaws scripts for QuickBooks
I wonder how long QuickBooks will continue to offer their desktop version since they really push QuickBooks Online. I don't know about the pricing of the desktop version, but I assume that in addition to the initial purchase price you still would also have some sort of annual cost. I now subscribed to the QuickBooks Online Plus plan which here in Canada ist $50 a month, but as a member of the Canadian Fedderation of Independent Business I get a 20% discount, so I am paying $40/month or $480 a year which is actually I think about the same or a bit less than I used to pay for the Sage 50 annual plan which gave me access to their yearly release version as well as bad technical support which I never used. For many people the Essential subscription which here in Canada is $35 a month or even the Simple Start which is $20 a month probabably is enough, but for my retail business QuickBooks will be integrated with my point of sale system and if you want QuickBooks to handle inventory you need the Plus version. I believe when I once inquired years ago the scripts were $750, add to this the cost of QuickBooks desktop and potentially an annual upgrade/maintenance plan and the subscription for the online version sounds pretty good. Of coruse there is also the benefit of being able to use the very accessible iOS app and to use it wherever you are and not just one your computer.
Best regards, Sieghard
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
I strongly advise you to just pay for those scripts from My Blind Spot. Without them there is no way to run that program accessibly. Trust me, you will be bumbling about in the dark with nowhere to turn. You cant beat their customer support either.
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Re: voice assistant question
Richard Turner
I've never had any voice assistant, Siri, Sharky, Alexa, use swear words.
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I know it happens, but I think one could make sure to speak distinctly and not in a noisy environment to reduce the errors. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:54 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: "Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 -----Original Message----- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice assistant question Hi all, On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004. Thanks Madison
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Re: voice assistant question
Marty Hutchings
My question is, why do voice assistant AI assume you want to use swear words? Can't they be programmed to be nice?
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Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020
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From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice assistant question Hi all, On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004. Thanks Madison
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Re: voice assistant question
David Diamond
I agree. 98% of the time the dictate function gets what I am trying to say. Yes, it is ultimately the responsibility of the sender to make sure what is being sent is what one is truly saying with no grammatical or spelling mistakes. I find the dictate function invaluable when I need to check the weather or some such thing. If it is sunny currently but there is a chance of rain, I do not want to be caught on a mountain trail during a down poor. Dogs by enlarge don't care if they get wet, I don't want to be drenched just because I was too lazy to check the weather.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: February 6, 2021 8:42 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question Dictation is never perfect, but I find it amazingly useful especially if I am just replying to a text message with a brief message of my own. It is everybody's responsibility to check what SIRI or whichever device or assistant you are using is writing and to correct mistakes, embarrassing or not. The email signatures I sometimes see about that dictation was used and to excuse any mistakes are a pet peeve of mine, there is no reason why you can't check your dictation results and correct any mistakes. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Diamond Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 2:42 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: voice assistant question I did not know it even existed. I tend to stay away from voice assistive things if at all possible. I've had some interesting experiences with the dictate function on my iPhone as in saying , "Thrift store. " It came out something entirely different which is not suitable for this list. I've never enabled "sharky" So, don't understand Madison why it would be turned on in the first place on your computer. -----Original Message----- From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin Sent: February 5, 2021 12:07 PM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: voice assistant question Hi all, On the topic of the Jaws voice assistant, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it or turn it off? I tried going into utilities and I thought I'd turned it off, but it would seem not, as it still goes off even though I've never said any wake word to it ever. It's annoying and I'd like to have it turned off permanently if at all possible. I'm running the latest build of Jaws 2021 and Windows 10 2004. Thanks Madison
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Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another
On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:40 PM, Edward Green wrote:
Control f4 should do it.- While it does, I've seen far too many accidents where the automatic ALT+F4 gets used and shuts down the browser. Just a word of caution. There's nothing wrong with CTRL+F4, I just prefer CTRL+W if you're dealing with browser tabs as it's less accident prone. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another
I have never changed the defaults, and any time I open a document in Google Docs (regardless of the specific type, docx, xlsx, etc.) that gets opened in its own tab (or window, if you have your browser set up to use new windows instead). Just closing the tab with CTRL+W throws me right back to the Google Drive tab to look for the next thing. Mind you, if you open multiple documents the Google Drive tab will be several steps to the left of where you are, and if you don't close all the things you've opened you'll need to navigate back there manually.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042 One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time. ~ André Gide
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Re: moving from 1 Google doc to another
Edward Green
Hi Barbara, Control f4 should do it. Cheers, Ed
On 6 February 2021 17:37:08 "Barbara Black" <barbarablack413@...> wrote:
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moving from 1 Google doc to another
Barbara Black
Hi- I’m sure this is very simple and obvious but I cann’t figure out how to close a Google Doc while staying in Drive. For instance, I go to my Drive, open a Google Doc, read it and want to close it and go to another Google Doc on my Drive.
Instructions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks Barbara
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Re: Two questions regarding Jaws 2021.
Chris Hill
Yeh, that happens now and then. I have yet to find a pattern to
it.
On 2/6/2021 10:45, Dan Longmore wrote:
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