My guess is that, while JAWS can read the cell contents to you, the cell width is actually not wide enough to show all the text you typed visually.  I’ve had this before when printing handouts for people.  Unfortunately, I cannot find a verbosity setting in JAWS to turn on a notification.  I used to have a setting turned on that would say “Clipped” when the text was cut off, but I wonder if that was back when I used Window Eyes, because I’m not finding a setting to toggle for that.

Hi,

I am using excel and ms word.

When i save files as pdf, jaws reads out text even if it cannot be seen.

I had my son look at a particular document, and this is basically what he told me.

I had 8 cells of excel merged.

In this i had “if you have any questions in relation to this, please contact the company using the details above”.

When i look at it in excel, jaws reads out the entire thing.

When i save it as a pdf, jaws reads out the entire thing.

However, when my son looks at the pdf, he only sees the text as far as the word “using”.

Everything after this is truncated.

With regard to word, if i create a table, and things are not properly presented in the columns, jaws just reads it as if everything is ok.

For example, if there is too much text in a column of a table, to the eye, it looks like it is “pushed” up.

At least, thats the way my son explained it to me.

However, as i said, jaws reads it just fine in word and as a pdf.

I suppose, basically what i am trying to get at here, is:

Does anyone know of a way, to have jaws just read out what someone with sight would actually see?

To have jaws speaking text that is hidden from the eye, is causing problems.

Regards,

pat

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Just curious if anyone has given new Chromium-based Edge an whirl with regard to reading PDFs?  Early reports in the Win10 for Screen Reader Users group were quite positive.  Even if you don't use it for anything else, it might be useful for PDFs if it does what you (some random you) are looking for.

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On Jul 17, 2020, at 5:41 PM, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:



I think I paid including taxes $159 for 3 Tbs of storage with drop box.  Using Marie’s logic, $120 for 1 Tb per user and you can have 5 different users is still the best bang for your buck. Strictly mathematically it is $120 for 5 Tbs of storage.   

Hi,

I have several nas devices on my network with different web interfaces.

The buffalo link station is particularly inaccessible.

There are various button controls on it, depending on what you are doing.

With jaws, there seems to be no way to activate them.

I have tried:

Using the “enter” key.

Pressing “spacebar”.

Routing pc to jaws and left-clicking.

Same thing but right-clicking.

Does anyone have any ideas as to how these controls might be accessed?

Buffalo say that they are addressing this, but i wont hold my breath.

I have tried it with jaws 2018 and 2020 (latest update).

Most likely, whoever developed the interface didn’t label anything.

It also doesn’t seem to matter what browser is being used.

I have tried:

Internet explorer, edge (latest version), google chrome (latest version) and brave.

pat

If you think about it, One year of DropBox with 1TB is around $120. You can get a one year subscription to Office 365 which you can share with family members. Each member can install on five systems and each one gets their own 1TB of One Drive space. In addition, as long as you are subscribed you get all updates to all the Office programs.

It's not rocket science!

I believe with an outlook or Hotmail account you get 5 Gs free of one drive space.  Not bad if you don’t need it.  Myself I ran out of the 5 Gs rather quickly as basically everything in my drop box is in my one drive now. 

Hi Adrain,

 

Why not go with, J2020, just to cut down on what you have to listen to?  And with subsequent version shortcuts you or someone else has on their desktop, J19, J2018....

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Adrian Spratt

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

I skipped past several messages on this topic and so I don't know if this suggestion was also made.

I used to have the problem of the disappearing control-alt-j shortcut until an FS tech support guy told me to rename the icon. Ever since, I've added the word "shortcut" in the icons for every version of JAWS on my desktop. I'm trying to remember if I created the control-alt-j shortcut before or after renaming the icon. I'm guessing I do that first.

Example: JAWS 2020 shortcut

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost.  Doublecheck in properties that it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter.  This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay.  sometimes you get an error message saying that only an administrator can make this change.  Okay the message, then you can okay the change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to be sure it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>
>
>I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open
>JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open
>NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and
>she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the
>problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or
>something like that? If so, what do you do?
>
>
>
>Any assistance is appreciated.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>David
>
>
>

i get this sometimes. and i have to go into the properties and the shortcut will be there but will not work until i put it back to none, click on ok to save it and re set it back to control alt j again. then it will start working again.

-----Original Message----- From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

Sometimes that keystroke seems to get lost. Doublecheck in
properties that it is still assigned.
1. Go to the desktop.
2. Locate the JAWS icon, do not press enter.
3. Press alt+enter. This should give you properties.
4. Tab to shortcut, and be sure it is set to ctrl+alt+j.
5. Tab to okay. sometimes you get an error message saying that only
an administrator can make this change. Okay the message, then you
can okay the change.
6. While still on the JAWS icon, press alt+enter again and check to
be sure it worked.

Good luck!

At 08:23 AM 7/17/2020, you wrote:

Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David

On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:03 PM, Marty Hutchings <mhutchings152730@...> wrote:



If you have a desktop icon for your JAWS or any ap, just hit Windows D and hit the first letter of the ap that you wish to open.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
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From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 5:09 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Everyone experiencing this, please contact Freedom Scientific.

 

Changing the icon name does nothing for me, no desktop shortcuts work.

This is not true for everyone, but for those of us for whom it is true, it is a pain in the butt!

 

I now either use the Windows 1 through 0 keys for programs pinned to the task bar, or I tap the Windows Key and type enough of the name to get a match and hit enter.

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 2:49 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

I too have had no joy with desktop shortcuts ever since installing JAWS 2020.  It is not only the JAWS hot key that doesn’t work, but all of my short cuts that quit working.

 

Love in Christ
Marty
If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020

 

From: Richard Turner

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 9:06 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

From a fellow sufferer of this bug, I’m guessing she is running Jaws 2020 on Windows 10, or 2019 on Windows 10.  I reported this bug last year to FS and discovered that only a few people had this issue.

Eric Damery did a tandem session with me and he could observe it on my machine, this  was still with Jaws 2019.

They thought they had solved it in 2020, which did work fine for about 4 days.

Then, I lost the ability to use the shortcuts I had created.

So, I switched to using the pin to task bar, I think it is called, where Windows Key plus 1 launches the first program in the order pinned, etc.

 

I am the only user of this machine, I have admin rights up the ying yang, yet, they do not seem to know what causes this.

This is a Del Inspiron  57 something or other, laptop.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Kingsbury
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 6:23 AM
To: 'JAWS Main Discussion List' <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Control Alt J Not Working to Open JAWS

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt J to open JAWS, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt N to open NVDA. I know that it is set correctly in JAWS shortcut Properties and she has admin privileges, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David