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moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

Bill,

Thanks so much for your suggestion, which led me to the solution. After a bit of trial and error I discovered that it was my default.jcf file which was causing the odd behavior in Brave. Once I discovered this I removed it, adjusted some default settings and things are working perfectly now. Thank you again for helping me to troubleshoot and correct this annoying behavior.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

 

Hi, David. The only thing I can recommend is, before you do your repair, go into Utilities>Explore My Settings, and remove all settings files. This is based on the behavior of INSERT plus SPACE, followed by Z. This runs JAWS with no settings configuration files in effect. Then do a JAWS repair, and see if this fixes the problem.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

 

First, I want to say that the problem I’m about to describe is likely not a reproducible JAWS bug but is something which seems to be some sort of corruption unique to my profile.

I’m using JAWS 2021, Brave 1.18.75, Windows 10 Pro, 20H2, Dell Lattitude E7270.

This problem did not occur using my old Dell OptiPlex.

The problem does not occur with other browsers.

When I open a page in Brave all navigation commands work as expected until I navigate to the address bar by either pressing ctrl-L or alt-D.

When the address bar gains focus JAWS speaks it as it should. However, cursor navigation commands do not speak as I navigate with left/right arrow keys and selection commands along with ctrl-C do not allow me to copy the URL to the clipboard.

If I press insert-space, followed by Z to open a temporary default profile navigation commands work as expected.

As soon as I toggle back to my own profile I cannot navigate, select or copy the URL.

Here is what I have done so far.

  1. Run the JAWS 2021 installer to initiate a repair. Same behavior after the repair.
  2. As I use Leasey I then uninstalled that program. Restarting the PC without Leasey still did not fix the problem.
  3. Reinstalled Leasey with no change after PC restart.

I’m wondering if there are specific files in my user settings folder (not shared settings) which I could delete to see if that might fix the issue.

Feedback is appreciated.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

 


moderated Re: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting mailing list

Mario
 

well, there's https://groups.io/g/jawsscripting but there's only 9 subscribers and I don't know how active it is since it was created on Nov of 2017.

a couple of other resources to check out besides the built in help system:

learning Jaws Scripting: a walkthrough
https://gist.github.com/BeastlyTheos/177004102bafda4b20e9b6e72863d29a?fbclid=IwAR3LNsFC3Ny66yAx8RknBpDEMXnJwa8h9lHj53NMkMMNEwFhd3F4X3WKH1s

Basics of JAWS Scripting intro and TOC:

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Content/Documents/Other/ScriptManual/01-0_Introduction.htm

-------- Original Message --------
From: Leo [mailto:literophilus@myself.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 5:42 PM
Subject: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting mailing list
Mario, I'm wondering the same here...!


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 12/23/2020 2:25 PM, Mario wrote:
the scripting list on freelists doesn't sound like it's a good list if
one is just starting out in writing scripts. I wonder if there's a
more suitable list for newbee scripters with plenty of basic questions?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
[mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 12:33 PM
Subject: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting
mailing list
Hello,
It is possible that FS put script definitions in default.jsd that are
not in default.jss. Default.jss does include several "use" statements
that include code from other libraries. Also, the psd d files are used
for the command to insert a function in code, and for the  verification
that parameters are correctly listed for functions.
There is a JAWS scripting list on freelists. This list has most of the
professional scripters on it, so they get impatient if people ask fairly
simple questions. Also, if you ask can I get a script for Application X,
nobody will answer.
Please try to search the archive of over 10 years of scripting history
before asking a question.
Best of luck!
Jonathan Cohn












.


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Glenn / Lenny
 

Most things in the startup don't need to be there, like Office for example.
Many programs put something into the startup to make them open faster when
initially opened.
All you really need in startup are any anti virus/malware programs and any
access technology.
Anything else slows bootup and is taking some resources.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason White via groups.io" <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?


What's turned on in Startup Apps under System Settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

If you go to task manager and to the start up tab you can disable such
things as Microsoft edge from starting.

On 12/23/2020 6:38 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 02:03 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at
start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

-
This is in no way, shape, or form "normal behavior." I don't have any
idea what's coming up, but if you have the opportunity to get sighted
assistance or use a service like Be My Eyes to have a look at what's
going on if the screen reader is not making it easy to figure out I'd
suggest going that route.

I have never seen Edge "starting automatically" such that it presents
a window and a webpage, whether at system startup or otherwise. I
would be very curious to know what's actually occurring here.

--

Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
the shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide


moderated Re: OCR with HP office pro 8020

Pat Byrne
 

It is solved Glen. We initially installed H P Smart. This time we had the option to install that package or the entire H P setup package. We chose that option and apparently there were perhaps more drivers or perhaps Openbook being a bit long in the tooth required a legacy driver not provided in H P Smart.
Whatever, the problem is solved and F S has been notified.
Pat, K9JAU


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Jason White
 

What's turned on in Startup Apps under System Settings?

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

If you go to task manager and to the start up tab you can disable such things as Microsoft edge from starting.

On 12/23/2020 6:38 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 02:03 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at
start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

-
This is in no way, shape, or form "normal behavior." I don't have any
idea what's coming up, but if you have the opportunity to get sighted
assistance or use a service like Be My Eyes to have a look at what's
going on if the screen reader is not making it easy to figure out I'd
suggest going that route.

I have never seen Edge "starting automatically" such that it presents
a window and a webpage, whether at system startup or otherwise. I
would be very curious to know what's actually occurring here.

--

Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042

*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of
the shore for a very long time.*

~ André Gide


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Don H
 

If you go to task manager and to the start up tab you can disable such things as Microsoft edge from starting.

On 12/23/2020 6:38 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 02:03 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:
Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at
start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.
How do I get rid of this intrusion?
-
This is in no way, shape, or form "normal behavior."  I don't have any idea what's coming up, but if you have the opportunity to get sighted assistance or use a service like Be My Eyes to have a look at what's going on if the screen reader is not making it easy to figure out I'd suggest going that route.
I have never seen Edge "starting automatically" such that it presents a window and a webpage, whether at system startup or otherwise.  I would be very curious to know what's actually occurring here.
--
Brian -Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042
*One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.*
~ André Gide


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

 

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 02:03 PM, Stan Holdeman wrote:

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

 

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

-
This is in no way, shape, or form "normal behavior."  I don't have any idea what's coming up, but if you have the opportunity to get sighted assistance or use a service like Be My Eyes to have a look at what's going on if the screen reader is not making it easy to figure out I'd suggest going that route.

I have never seen Edge "starting automatically" such that it presents a window and a webpage, whether at system startup or otherwise.  I would be very curious to know what's actually occurring here.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.

           ~ André Gide


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Randy Barnett
 

in task manager Did you press on the more details button? if you our just trying to get to the start up tab another way is to use  msconfig.EXE. Just press the windows key type MSCONFIG. EXC then hit enter and go to the start up tab and that will have a link that will take you directly to the start up tab of task manager.

Randy Barnett

On Dec 23, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:


Glen:
 
Task Manager starts as it should but, when I use the keystrokes to move around the program, they do not work.
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Not sure Dave,
If task manager does not come up, there's something wrong.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Glen:
 
I pressed CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, to start Task Manager, JAWS says, "Task Manager, list of items, list box. When I pressed CTRL+TAB, nothing happenes.
 
Any other suggestions?
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Hi Stan,
Call up task manager with shift control + escape and control tab to the startup tab and uncheck it.
Assuming you are using windows 10.
In 7, you need to run a utility called msconfig with the run edit box which you get with windows + R.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dear List: I am running J 2021 and Google Chrome is my default browser.

 

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

 

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

 

Stan

 


moderated Openbook setting for typed text.

Tim Ford
 

Hello All,

 

The old versions of Openbook had a scanner option for what they referred to as type or printed text; for typewriter and for more modern proportional font stuff.  Is that option still in OB9?

 

Thanks,

Tim Ford

 


moderated Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Adrian Spratt
 

For the record, my new Outlook problem is with 2016, which doesn’t update via Microsoft. It could be a combination of changes in JAWS 2021 and MS 365, but in my case, I can blame only JAWS 2021.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Jason:

 

You might be right about this.

 

And, that makes problems harder to resolve, because not everyone has the same experiences.

 

Recently, for example, I’ve been having issues with my Outlook address books.

 

I’m now no longer able to navigate through and edit e-mail group lists, and I have had to figure out an alternate way to copy e-mail addresses from my address books when needed.

 

I’ve contacted Freedom Scientific about these issues, and they acknowledge them.

 

They say they are related to Microsoft 365 updates.

 

It’s very frustrating, to say the least.

 

It makes me wonder whether the Microsoft accessibility people ever collaborate with Freedom Scientific prior to releasing updates.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

I’ve been receiving regular Office 365 (now Microsoft 365) updates, with no problems of this kind at all. In fact, I can’t remember the last time I encountered any sort of Office 365 regression The bugs that affect me seem to stay around from one version to another.

 

I don’t know why some people are encountering issues and others aren’t – it’s probably related to very specific configurations.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 15:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

I have noticed this too, just this morning.

 

I had to go in and set view to draft, and now all is ok again.

 

Also, this morning, when my e-mail downloaded, it was arranged in some sort of a weird view which was not readable by Jaws.  Had to go in and manually change the view to descending order by date.

 

I suspect all of this might have been caused by yet another Microsoft 365 update.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Hi, Shirley,

I have not noticed this, but when I try reading a document later, I will see what happens.

 

On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hello everyone,

 

Are any of you beginning to have trouble reading documents in MS Word? Or is it just me?

 

I wrote an important letter to a company a few days ago, and I was trying to read it today to make some changes before sending it. I had trouble simply reading line by line. Did something change? Or am I in The Twilight Zone?

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dave Durber
 

Glen:
 
Task Manager starts as it should but, when I use the keystrokes to move around the program, they do not work.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Not sure Dave,
If task manager does not come up, there's something wrong.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Glen:
 
I pressed CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, to start Task Manager, JAWS says, "Task Manager, list of items, list box. When I pressed CTRL+TAB, nothing happenes.
 
Any other suggestions?
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Hi Stan,
Call up task manager with shift control + escape and control tab to the startup tab and uncheck it.
Assuming you are using windows 10.
In 7, you need to run a utility called msconfig with the run edit box which you get with windows + R.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dear List: I am running J 2021 and Google Chrome is my default browser.

 

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

 

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dave Durber
 

Glen:
 
Unfortunately not. If I press TAB, SHIFT+TAB, CTRL+TAB, CTRL+SHIFT+TAB, LEFT/RIGHT/UP/DUWN arrows, nothing happens. I tried restarting the computer, then, I opened Task Manager and tried all the above keystrokes, again, nothing happened. I even went as far as to restore the computer to a previous date and time and tried using Task Manager again but, there was no improvement. I would really not like to have to reinstall Windows 10, just to get Tast Manager to behave as it should.
 
Dave
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dave,
Can you left and right arrow after you open task manager?
If so, you can arrow to start up and then tab to the list of programs and find Edge and uncheck it with the space bar.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Glen:
 
I pressed CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, to start Task Manager, JAWS says, "Task Manager, list of items, list box. When I pressed CTRL+TAB, nothing happenes.
 
Any other suggestions?
 
Dave
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Hi Stan,
Call up task manager with shift control + escape and control tab to the startup tab and uncheck it.
Assuming you are using windows 10.
In 7, you need to run a utility called msconfig with the run edit box which you get with windows + R.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 1:03 PM
Subject: how to get rid of Edge in start up?

Dear List: I am running J 2021 and Google Chrome is my default browser.

 

Edge and a site called personal Microsoft comes up frequently at start up. Seems to slow up start up quite a bit.

 

How do I get rid of this intrusion?

 

Stan

 


moderated Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Jason White
 

The changes are made available to Office Insiders for some time before release, so there’s certainly opportunity for any issues to be reported to Microsoft before a new version is offered publicly.

 

I don’t know how many screen reader users are actively testing and reporting any problems found, though.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 16:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Jason:

 

You might be right about this.

 

And, that makes problems harder to resolve, because not everyone has the same experiences.

 

Recently, for example, I’ve been having issues with my Outlook address books.

 

I’m now no longer able to navigate through and edit e-mail group lists, and I have had to figure out an alternate way to copy e-mail addresses from my address books when needed.

 

I’ve contacted Freedom Scientific about these issues, and they acknowledge them.

 

They say they are related to Microsoft 365 updates.

 

It’s very frustrating, to say the least.

 

It makes me wonder whether the Microsoft accessibility people ever collaborate with Freedom Scientific prior to releasing updates.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

I’ve been receiving regular Office 365 (now Microsoft 365) updates, with no problems of this kind at all. In fact, I can’t remember the last time I encountered any sort of Office 365 regression The bugs that affect me seem to stay around from one version to another.

 

I don’t know why some people are encountering issues and others aren’t – it’s probably related to very specific configurations.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 15:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

I have noticed this too, just this morning.

 

I had to go in and set view to draft, and now all is ok again.

 

Also, this morning, when my e-mail downloaded, it was arranged in some sort of a weird view which was not readable by Jaws.  Had to go in and manually change the view to descending order by date.

 

I suspect all of this might have been caused by yet another Microsoft 365 update.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Hi, Shirley,

I have not noticed this, but when I try reading a document later, I will see what happens.

 

On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hello everyone,

 

Are any of you beginning to have trouble reading documents in MS Word? Or is it just me?

 

I wrote an important letter to a company a few days ago, and I was trying to read it today to make some changes before sending it. I had trouble simply reading line by line. Did something change? Or am I in The Twilight Zone?

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting mailing list

Leo
 

Mario, I'm wondering the same here...!


Leo

“Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional.”
― haruki murakami,

On 12/23/2020 2:25 PM, Mario wrote:
the scripting list on freelists doesn't sound like it's a good list if
one is just starting out in writing scripts. I wonder if there's a
more suitable list for newbee scripters with plenty of basic questions?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io
[mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 12:33 PM
Subject: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting
mailing list
Hello,
It is possible that FS put script definitions in default.jsd that are
not in default.jss. Default.jss does include several "use" statements
that include code from other libraries. Also, the psd d files are used
for the command to insert a function in code, and for the  verification
that parameters are correctly listed for functions.
There is a JAWS scripting list on freelists. This list has most of the
professional scripters on it, so they get impatient if people ask fairly
simple questions. Also, if you ask can I get a script for Application X,
nobody will answer.
Please try to search the archive of over 10 years of scripting history
before asking a question.
Best of luck!
Jonathan Cohn






moderated Re: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

Hi, David. The only thing I can recommend is, before you do your repair, go into Utilities>Explore My Settings, and remove all settings files. This is based on the behavior of INSERT plus SPACE, followed by Z. This runs JAWS with no settings configuration files in effect. Then do a JAWS repair, and see if this fixes the problem.

 

Bill White

billwhite92701@...

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:07 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

 

First, I want to say that the problem I’m about to describe is likely not a reproducible JAWS bug but is something which seems to be some sort of corruption unique to my profile.

I’m using JAWS 2021, Brave 1.18.75, Windows 10 Pro, 20H2, Dell Lattitude E7270.

This problem did not occur using my old Dell OptiPlex.

The problem does not occur with other browsers.

When I open a page in Brave all navigation commands work as expected until I navigate to the address bar by either pressing ctrl-L or alt-D.

When the address bar gains focus JAWS speaks it as it should. However, cursor navigation commands do not speak as I navigate with left/right arrow keys and selection commands along with ctrl-C do not allow me to copy the URL to the clipboard.

If I press insert-space, followed by Z to open a temporary default profile navigation commands work as expected.

As soon as I toggle back to my own profile I cannot navigate, select or copy the URL.

Here is what I have done so far.

  1. Run the JAWS 2021 installer to initiate a repair. Same behavior after the repair.
  2. As I use Leasey I then uninstalled that program. Restarting the PC without Leasey still did not fix the problem.
  3. Reinstalled Leasey with no change after PC restart.

I’m wondering if there are specific files in my user settings folder (not shared settings) which I could delete to see if that might fix the issue.

Feedback is appreciated.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

 


moderated Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Tom Behler
 

Jason:

 

You might be right about this.

 

And, that makes problems harder to resolve, because not everyone has the same experiences.

 

Recently, for example, I’ve been having issues with my Outlook address books.

 

I’m now no longer able to navigate through and edit e-mail group lists, and I have had to figure out an alternate way to copy e-mail addresses from my address books when needed.

 

I’ve contacted Freedom Scientific about these issues, and they acknowledge them.

 

They say they are related to Microsoft 365 updates.

 

It’s very frustrating, to say the least.

 

It makes me wonder whether the Microsoft accessibility people ever collaborate with Freedom Scientific prior to releasing updates.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

I’ve been receiving regular Office 365 (now Microsoft 365) updates, with no problems of this kind at all. In fact, I can’t remember the last time I encountered any sort of Office 365 regression The bugs that affect me seem to stay around from one version to another.

 

I don’t know why some people are encountering issues and others aren’t – it’s probably related to very specific configurations.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 15:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

I have noticed this too, just this morning.

 

I had to go in and set view to draft, and now all is ok again.

 

Also, this morning, when my e-mail downloaded, it was arranged in some sort of a weird view which was not readable by Jaws.  Had to go in and manually change the view to descending order by date.

 

I suspect all of this might have been caused by yet another Microsoft 365 update.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Hi, Shirley,

I have not noticed this, but when I try reading a document later, I will see what happens.

 

On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hello everyone,

 

Are any of you beginning to have trouble reading documents in MS Word? Or is it just me?

 

I wrote an important letter to a company a few days ago, and I was trying to read it today to make some changes before sending it. I had trouble simply reading line by line. Did something change? Or am I in The Twilight Zone?

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated JAWS 2021 and Brave Browser: Not Allowing Me To Navigate With Left/Right Arrow Keys In The Address Bar

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>
 

First, I want to say that the problem I’m about to describe is likely not a reproducible JAWS bug but is something which seems to be some sort of corruption unique to my profile.

I’m using JAWS 2021, Brave 1.18.75, Windows 10 Pro, 20H2, Dell Lattitude E7270.

This problem did not occur using my old Dell OptiPlex.

The problem does not occur with other browsers.

When I open a page in Brave all navigation commands work as expected until I navigate to the address bar by either pressing ctrl-L or alt-D.

When the address bar gains focus JAWS speaks it as it should. However, cursor navigation commands do not speak as I navigate with left/right arrow keys and selection commands along with ctrl-C do not allow me to copy the URL to the clipboard.

If I press insert-space, followed by Z to open a temporary default profile navigation commands work as expected.

As soon as I toggle back to my own profile I cannot navigate, select or copy the URL.

Here is what I have done so far.

  1. Run the JAWS 2021 installer to initiate a repair. Same behavior after the repair.
  2. As I use Leasey I then uninstalled that program. Restarting the PC without Leasey still did not fix the problem.
  3. Reinstalled Leasey with no change after PC restart.

I’m wondering if there are specific files in my user settings folder (not shared settings) which I could delete to see if that might fix the issue.

Feedback is appreciated.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

 


moderated Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Jason White
 

I’ve been receiving regular Office 365 (now Microsoft 365) updates, with no problems of this kind at all. In fact, I can’t remember the last time I encountered any sort of Office 365 regression The bugs that affect me seem to stay around from one version to another.

 

I don’t know why some people are encountering issues and others aren’t – it’s probably related to very specific configurations.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 15:32
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

I have noticed this too, just this morning.

 

I had to go in and set view to draft, and now all is ok again.

 

Also, this morning, when my e-mail downloaded, it was arranged in some sort of a weird view which was not readable by Jaws.  Had to go in and manually change the view to descending order by date.

 

I suspect all of this might have been caused by yet another Microsoft 365 update.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Hi, Shirley,

I have not noticed this, but when I try reading a document later, I will see what happens.

 

On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hello everyone,

 

Are any of you beginning to have trouble reading documents in MS Word? Or is it just me?

 

I wrote an important letter to a company a few days ago, and I was trying to read it today to make some changes before sending it. I had trouble simply reading line by line. Did something change? Or am I in The Twilight Zone?

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

Tom Behler
 

I have noticed this too, just this morning.

 

I had to go in and set view to draft, and now all is ok again.

 

Also, this morning, when my e-mail downloaded, it was arranged in some sort of a weird view which was not readable by Jaws.  Had to go in and manually change the view to descending order by date.

 

I suspect all of this might have been caused by yet another Microsoft 365 update.

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Trouble reading MS word documents

 

Hi, Shirley,

I have not noticed this, but when I try reading a document later, I will see what happens.



On Dec 23, 2020, at 8:53 AM, Shirley Tracy <shirleytracy16@...> wrote:



Hello everyone,

 

Are any of you beginning to have trouble reading documents in MS Word? Or is it just me?

 

I wrote an important letter to a company a few days ago, and I was trying to read it today to make some changes before sending it. I had trouble simply reading line by line. Did something change? Or am I in The Twilight Zone?

 

Shirley Tracy

 


moderated Re: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting mailing list

Mario
 

the scripting list on freelists doesn't sound like it's a good list if one is just starting out in writing scripts. I wonder if there's a more suitable list for newbee scripters with plenty of basic questions?

-------- Original Message --------
From: Cohn, Jonathan via groups.io [mailto:jonathan.c.cohn=icloud.com@groups.io]
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2020, 12:33 PM
Subject: Scripts in default user disappeared and Jaws scripting mailing list
Hello,
It is possible that FS put script definitions in default.jsd that are
not in default.jss. Default.jss does include several "use" statements
that include code from other libraries. Also, the psd d files are used
for the command to insert a function in code, and for the  verification
that parameters are correctly listed for functions.
There is a JAWS scripting list on freelists. This list has most of the
professional scripters on it, so they get impatient if people ask fairly
simple questions. Also, if you ask can I get a script for Application X,
nobody will answer.
Please try to search the archive of over 10 years of scripting history
before asking a question.
Best of luck!
Jonathan Cohn

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