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Re: Using icloud.com
Hi, One of the key developers of Windows Eyes is now heading up Narrator for Microsoft, last I heard, so Narrator may have the last laugh. Seriously JAWS is a fine product but needs a good competitor though NVDA and Narrator are getting there.
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:45 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using icloud.com Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers. Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro. It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared. They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program. I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice. But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws. Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws. Have a good day everyone. ------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe. -------------------------------------------------------------- Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market. Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows… On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari. On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner
Shirley, I use an Epson Perfection scanner but also have a Brother 4 in 1 printer / scanner which Open Book recognizes and is able to use if needed. The Brother is great on ink and has an on screen interface that is fairly accessible with JAWS. Not the fastest printer or scanner though if you are looking for speed. Dan
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner Good morning list, My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer. Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒 Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New
Well I don’t think will as long as it's quiet in the room your in.
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On 9/10/2020 1:24 PM, William
Vandervest wrote:
Will
the voice assistant cause feedback when using a laptop
internal mic?
Thanks
William Vandervest
timelord09@...
Win10 latest revision
There are none so blind, as those who will not
see.
William
Vandervest
u
I'm happily testing now. Love saying Sharky LOL!
On 9/10/2020 12:29 PM, Mike B wrote:
Here's
the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit
systems, what's new in this release and a link to the
FSCast that has demonstrations.
Download
Link 32 & 64 Bit:
• FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new
and exciting features in the upcoming 2021 release.
New
Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021
PictureSmart Improvements
Introduced
in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to
choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A
description of the image is then displayed
in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture
Smart layer. You can then press A to describe
a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed
scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows
Explorer, C to describe the current control,
or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard.
JAWS and
Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering
several improvements including:
list of
3 items
• Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image
that is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook,
pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
• Submitting images to multiple services to help improve
accuracy: By default, images are submitted to Microsoft
for analyzing. However, the Results Viewer
now contains a More Results link which submits the image
again to additional services for analyzing and displays
an updated description. You can also add
SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple
services. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by
SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B.
• Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are
using JAWS or Fusion in a language other than English
and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display
descriptions in the particular language. You can also
manually choose from 38 languages for displaying
results, configurable using the new Picture Smart
Language option in Settings Center.
list end
Please
note that these changes, especially the machine
translation for other languages, is still experimental,
so things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this
functionality.
For more
information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P
followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart
topic in the JAWS help.
OCR Text
Directly into a Word Document
The
Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature
has been enhanced to support sending recognized text
directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the
image and displays this information in the Results
Viewer. This includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an
inaccessible PDF opened in Adobe Reader, a currently
selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed
scanner.
If
Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can
now:
list of
2 items
• Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R
to perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer
or the Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press
the APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word
with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu.
• Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top
of the Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
For more
information about using Convenient OCR, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to
the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS help.
New
Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and
Fusion Commands and Features
The new
Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS,
ZoomText, and Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input.
Supported languages include English,
Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you
out with various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural
speech. This means that the same action
can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead
of a single predefined voice command. For instance, to
launch JAWS Settings Center, you could
say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike
keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember,
natural voice commands are an easier way to interact
with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to
control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with
certain conditions which prevent them from
using a keyboard effectively.
The JAWS
Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone
or you can talk to it using an external microphone or
headset. To tell the Voice Assistant
to begin listening for a specific command, there are
three options:
list of
2 items
• Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion).
• Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to
begin listening for a voice command, similar to using an
Alexa or Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and
Fusion. Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or
ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
Note:
The wake word is not available if you are using a
Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the
keystroke before speaking the voice command.
list of
1 items
• From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the
Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and
then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
When the
Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a
short audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator is
displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the
command is processed. After processing, the visual
indicator is removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action
is performed.
If the
Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message,
"Sorry, I didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice
Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry,
I didn’t catch that" is spoken.
Note:
Since all voice recognition processing is performed over
the Internet using Microsoft Services in the cloud,
there will be a slight delay depending
on your connection. Be patient and experiment with
different commands. This is a new technology being added
to our software products and will continue
to change and evolve over time. We welcome your
suggestions and feedback.
To turn
off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as
whether or not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake
word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
list of
2 items
• For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the
Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Settings.
• For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press
DOWN ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button, and
select Settings.
list end
To learn
more and to view a full list of voice commands for
specific actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help."
You can also select Getting Started
from the Voice Assistant menu.
Here are
a few commands you can try to help you get started.
For JAWS
(Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR
before speaking each command):
list of
10 items
• Help
• Talk faster
• Talk slower
• Change settings
• Command search
• What time is it
• OCR PDF
• List links
• List headings
• List spelling errors
list end
For
ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press
CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
list of
10 items
• Increase zoom level
• Zoom out
• Set zoom level to 5
• Where is my focus
• What time is it
• Activate speech
• Talk faster
• Open Reader app view
• Launch finder
• Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
Improved
Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
• If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list
which opens the inaccessible document viewer, you can
now press ESC to return to the files list. You
are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and
open the document in the desktop application, which is
the suggested method.
• You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to
the first five tab pages.
• Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates
the back button from anywhere in Teams.
• You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
• You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree
view, if visible. Note that it is usually only visible
if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be
maximized to ensure this control is visible.
• Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a
meeting.
list end
Teams
also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate
windows with fewer controls. To do this, press
CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select the
check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New
meetings and calls will open in separate windows.
Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS specific
keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this
split mode, Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes
you can review by pressing CTRL+PERIOD.
New
Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
You can
now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle
through the four punctuation levels which controls how
much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some,
Most, and All. Similar to toggling Screen Echo
(INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the punctuation
level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS
or Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation
level, use the JAWS Startup Wizard or
Settings Center.
Announce
Most Recent Windows Notification
You can
now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR
followed by N to have JAWS repeat the last notification
that was spoken. Notifications include
an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message,
a new email in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus
braille display, you can also press RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your
Windows notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke
WINDOWS Key+A.
FS
Support Tool for Gathering System Information
The FS
Support Tool is a new utility that collects information
about your computer and sends a report to our Technical
Support and Software Development
teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be
experiencing while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion.
You will typically be asked to run this utility
during a technical support session if it is determined
that additional details about your system are needed.
Some information that is collected includes:
list of
9 items
• System information such as processor, RAM, operating
system, architecture, and more
• Event logs
• Version of Adobe Reader (if installed)
• Versions of all installed web browsers
• Information on installed Microsoft Office applications
• Crash dumps
• Installation logs
• Currently running system processes
• User settings
list end
The FS
Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS,
or the Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you
through collecting and submitting
a report.
Announce
Accessible Notification Events
By
default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows
generated accessible event notifications in both speech
and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars
in Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these
announcements, open Settings Center and
clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check
box.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
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Re: Describing the contents of a region?
insert + F1 describes the whole page. I'm hoping there's a way to describe the contents of a single region within the whole page.
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Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New
Will the voice assistant cause feedback when using a laptop internal mic? Thanks William Vandervest timelord09@... Win10 latest revision There are none so blind, as those who will not see. William Vandervest u
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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 12:35 To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New I'm happily testing now. Love saying Sharky LOL! On 9/10/2020 12:29 PM, Mike B wrote: Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations. Download Link 32 & 64 Bit: • FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in the upcoming 2021 release.
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart Improvements Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can then press A to describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to describe the current control, or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard. JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several improvements including: list of 3 items • Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by C now describes the photo. • Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the Results Viewer now contains a More Results link which submits the image again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated description. You can also add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple services. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B. • Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for displaying results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option in Settings Center. list end Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected. Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality. For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help. OCR Text Directly into a Word Document The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner. If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now: list of 2 items • Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu. • Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete. list end For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS help. New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands and Features The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the same action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings Center, you could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands are an easier way to interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain conditions which prevent them from using a keyboard effectively. The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three options: list of 2 items • Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion). • Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level." list end Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the voice command. list of 1 items • From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText. list end When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed. After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed. If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t catch that" is spoken. Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and will continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions and feedback. To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do one of the following: list of 2 items • For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Settings. • For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings. list end To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting Started from the Voice Assistant menu. Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started. For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command): list of 10 items • Help • Talk faster • Talk slower • Change settings • Command search • What time is it • OCR PDF • List links • List headings • List spelling errors list end For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command): list of 10 items • Increase zoom level • Zoom out • Set zoom level to 5 • Where is my focus • What time is it • Activate speech • Talk faster • Open Reader app view • Launch finder • Change the color enhancement scheme list end Improved Microsoft Teams Support list of 6 items • If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files list. You are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method. • You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab pages. • Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from anywhere in Teams. • You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress. • You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible. Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this control is visible. • Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting. list end Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode, Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing CTRL+PERIOD. New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS Startup Wizard or Settings Center. Announce Most Recent Windows Notification You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press RIGHT SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A. FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run this utility during a technical support session if it is determined that additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is collected includes: list of 9 items • System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture, and more • Event logs • Version of Adobe Reader (if installed) • Versions of all installed web browsers • Information on installed Microsoft Office applications • Crash dumps • Installation logs • Currently running system processes • User settings list end The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and submitting a report. Announce Accessible Notification Events By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box. Take care. Mike. 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Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:29 AM To: JList <main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit systems, what's new in this release and a link to the FSCast that has demonstrations. Download Link 32 & 64 Bit: • FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting features in the upcoming 2021 release.
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart Improvements Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can then press A to describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner, F to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to describe the current control, or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard. JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several improvements including: list of 3 items • Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by C now describes the photo. • Submitting images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By default, images are submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the Results Viewer now contains a More Results link which submits the image again to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated description. You can also add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple services. For example, INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B. • Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion in a language other than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS and Fusion will use machine translation to display descriptions in the particular language. You can also manually choose from 38 languages for displaying results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language option in Settings Center. list end Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for other languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as expected. Results will improve as we continue refining this functionality. For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help. OCR Text Directly into a Word Document The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been enhanced to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR enables you to access images containing text that is part of the image and displays this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images such as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF opened in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or a document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner. If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now: list of 2 items • Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and place the recognized text directly into a Word document. You can also press the APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from the context menu. • Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete. list end For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS help. New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion Commands and Features The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the same action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings Center, you could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike keyboard shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands are an easier way to interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain conditions which prevent them from using a keyboard effectively. The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you can talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three options: list of 2 items • Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion). • Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin listening for a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level." list end Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the voice command. list of 1 items • From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to JAWS. From the ZoomText or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText. list end When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a voice command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is processed. After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different, short, audio indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is performed. If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or if the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t catch that" is spoken. Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and will continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions and feedback. To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds, do one of the following: list of 2 items • For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Settings. • For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button, and select Settings. list end To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting Started from the Voice Assistant menu. Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started. For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command): list of 10 items • Help • Talk faster • Talk slower • Change settings • Command search • What time is it • OCR PDF • List links • List headings • List spelling errors list end For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command): list of 10 items • Increase zoom level • Zoom out • Set zoom level to 5 • Where is my focus • What time is it • Activate speech • Talk faster • Open Reader app view • Launch finder • Change the color enhancement scheme list end Improved Microsoft Teams Support list of 6 items • If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which opens the inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC to return to the files list. You are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the document in the desktop application, which is the suggested method. • You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the first five tab pages. • Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back button from anywhere in Teams. • You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress. • You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view, if visible. Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized to ensure this control is visible. • Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting. list end Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode, Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing CTRL+PERIOD. New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the four punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All. Similar to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS Startup Wizard or Settings Center. Announce Most Recent Windows Notification You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N to have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press RIGHT SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A. FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run this utility during a technical support session if it is determined that additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is collected includes: list of 9 items • System information such as processor, RAM, operating system, architecture, and more • Event logs • Version of Adobe Reader (if installed) • Versions of all installed web browsers • Information on installed Microsoft Office applications • Crash dumps • Installation logs • Currently running system processes • User settings list end The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and submitting a report. Announce Accessible Notification Events By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of notifications are found in a variety of places including business bars in Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings Center and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box. Take care. Mike. 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Re: JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New
I'm happily testing now. Love saying Sharky LOL!
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On 9/10/2020 12:29 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi All,
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both
32 & 64 bit systems, what's new in this release and a link
to the FSCast that has demonstrations.
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
• FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and
exciting features in the upcoming 2021 release.
• New Features in 2021
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021
PictureSmart Improvements
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows
you to choose a photo and submit it to be analyzed. A
description of the image is then displayed
in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, followed by P to activate the Picture Smart
layer. You can then press A to describe
a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner, F
to describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to
describe the current control,
or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard.
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by
offering several improvements including:
list of 3 items
• Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image that
is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed
by C now describes the photo.
• Submitting images to multiple services to help improve
accuracy: By default, images are submitted to Microsoft for
analyzing. However, the Results Viewer
now contains a More Results link which submits the image again
to additional services for analyzing and displays an updated
description. You can also add
SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple services. For
example, INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or
SHIFT+B.
• Using Picture Smart in multiple languages: If you are using
JAWS or Fusion in a language other than English and you
attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS
and Fusion will use machine translation to display
descriptions in the particular language. You can also manually
choose from 38 languages for displaying
results, configurable using the new Picture Smart Language
option in Settings Center.
list end
Please note that these changes, especially the machine
translation for other languages, is still experimental, so
things may not always work as expected.
Results will improve as we continue refining this
functionality.
For more information on Picture Smart, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the
Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature
has been enhanced to support sending recognized text directly
to Word. Convenient OCR enables
you to access images containing text that is part of the image
and displays this information in the Results Viewer. This
includes onscreen images such
as the graphical setup screen for an application, an
inaccessible PDF opened in Adobe Reader, a currently selected
image file in Windows Explorer, or a
document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can
now:
list of 2 items
• Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R to
perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer or the
Desktop and place the recognized
text directly into a Word document. You can also press the
APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS
or Fusion from the context menu.
• Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of the
Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete.
list end
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the
Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS help.
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText,
and Fusion Commands and Features
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with
JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input.
Supported languages include English,
Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out
with various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech.
This means that the same action
can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a
single predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS
Settings Center, you could
say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike keyboard
shortcuts, which can be hard to remember, natural voice
commands are an easier way to interact
with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to
control JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain
conditions which prevent them from
using a keyboard effectively.
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal
microphone or you can talk to it using an external microphone
or headset. To tell the Voice Assistant
to begin listening for a specific command, there are three
options:
list of 2 items
• Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion).
• Speak a specific wake word which alerts to software to begin
listening for a voice command, similar to using an Alexa or
Google Home device. The wake
word is "Sharky" for JAWS and "Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion.
Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or ZoomText
command, such as, "Sharky, list
links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom level."
list end
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a
Bluetooth microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke
before speaking the voice command.
list of 1 items
• From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the Utilities
menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk
to JAWS. From the ZoomText
or Fusion main window, select Talk to ZoomText.
list end
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice
command, a short audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator
is displayed. After hearing a voice
command, a different audio indicator plays until the command
is processed. After processing, the visual indicator is
removed, a different, short, audio
indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is
performed.
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message,
"Sorry, I didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice
Assistant does not understand or if
the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I
didn’t catch that" is spoken.
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed
over the Internet using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there
will be a slight delay depending
on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different
commands. This is a new technology being added to our software
products and will continue
to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions
and feedback.
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options,
such as whether or not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake
word or to turn off the sounds, do
one of the following:
list of 2 items
• For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the Voice
Assistant submenu, and then select Settings.
• For ZoomText or Fusion, select the Tools tab, press DOWN
ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button, and select
Settings.
list end
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for
specific actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You
can also select Getting Started
from the Voice Assistant menu.
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get
started.
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press
INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
list of 10 items
• Help
• Talk faster
• Talk slower
• Change settings
• Command search
• What time is it
• OCR PDF
• List links
• List headings
• List spelling errors
list end
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press
CAPS LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
list of 10 items
• Increase zoom level
• Zoom out
• Set zoom level to 5
• Where is my focus
• What time is it
• Activate speech
• Talk faster
• Open Reader app view
• Launch finder
• Change the color enhancement scheme
list end
Improved Microsoft Teams Support
list of 6 items
• If you press ENTER on a document in the Files list which
opens the inaccessible document viewer, you can now press ESC
to return to the files list. You
are also prompted to use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open
the document in the desktop application, which is the
suggested method.
• You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go directly to the
first five tab pages.
• Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now automatically activates the back
button from anywhere in Teams.
• You can now press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress.
• You can now press ALT+T to set focus to the Teams tree view,
if visible. Note that it is usually only visible if CTRL+3 has
been pressed to show the
teams and channels list. The screen should also be maximized
to ensure this control is visible.
• Pressing ALT+R now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting.
list end
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in
separate windows with fewer controls. To do this, press
CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select the
check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New
meetings and calls will open in separate windows. Requires
restarting Teams.)" While JAWS specific
keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split
mode, Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review
by pressing CTRL+PERIOD.
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle
through the four punctuation levels which controls how much
punctuation JAWS and Fusion speak
while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and
All. Similar to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo
(INSERT+2), the punctuation
level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or
Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level,
use the JAWS Startup Wizard or
Settings Center.
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR
followed by N to have JAWS repeat the last notification that
was spoken. Notifications include
an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new
email in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille
display, you can also press RIGHT
SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows
notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects
information about your computer and sends a report to our
Technical Support and Software Development
teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be
experiencing while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will
typically be asked to run this utility
during a technical support session if it is determined that
additional details about your system are needed. Some
information that is collected includes:
list of 9 items
• System information such as processor, RAM, operating system,
architecture, and more
• Event logs
• Version of Adobe Reader (if installed)
• Versions of all installed web browsers
• Information on installed Microsoft Office applications
• Crash dumps
• Installation logs
• Currently running system processes
• User settings
list end
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in
JAWS, or the Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you
through collecting and submitting
a report.
Announce Accessible Notification Events
By default, JAWS now automatically announces
Windows generated accessible event notifications in both
speech and braille. These types of notifications
are found in a variety of places including business bars in
Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these
announcements, open Settings Center and
clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check box.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!
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JAWS2021 Beta V 2009.13.40 Download Link + What's New
Hi All,
Here's the J2021 Beta download link for both 32 & 64 bit
systems, what's new in this release and a link to the FSCast that has
demonstrations.
Download Link 32 & 64 Bit:
• FSCast web page, provides demonstrations of the new and exciting
features in the upcoming 2021 release.
• New Features in 2021
New Features Added in JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion 2021 PictureSmart
Improvements
Introduced in JAWS and Fusion 2019, Picture Smart allows you to choose a
photo and submit it to be analyzed. A description of the image is then
displayed in the Results Viewer. To use Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR,
followed by P to activate the Picture Smart layer. You can then press A to
describe a photo acquired from the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner, F to
describe a selected image file in Windows Explorer, C to describe the current
control, or B to describe an image on the Windows Clipboard.
JAWS and Fusion 2021 continues to expand this feature by offering several
improvements including:
list of 3 items • Describing images on web pages: If focused on an image
that is part of a web page, such as a photo on Facebook, pressing
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by C now describes the photo. • Submitting
images to multiple services to help improve accuracy: By default, images are
submitted to Microsoft for analyzing. However, the Results Viewer now
contains a More Results link which submits the image again to additional
services for analyzing and displays an updated description. You can also
add SHIFT to a Picture Smart command to use multiple services. For example,
INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by SHIFT+F, SHIFT+C, or SHIFT+B. • Using Picture
Smart in multiple languages: If you are using JAWS or Fusion in a language other
than English and you attempt to use Picture Smart, JAWS and Fusion will use
machine translation to display descriptions in the particular language. You can
also manually choose from 38 languages for displaying results, configurable
using the new Picture Smart Language option in Settings Center. list
end
Please note that these changes, especially the machine translation for
other languages, is still experimental, so things may not always work as
expected. Results will improve as we continue refining this
functionality.
For more information on Picture Smart, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, P followed by
QUESTION MARK or refer to the Picture Smart topic in the JAWS help.
OCR Text Directly into a Word Document
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature has been
enhanced to support sending recognized text directly to Word. Convenient OCR
enables you to access images containing text that is part of the image and
displays this information in the Results Viewer. This includes onscreen images
such as the graphical setup screen for an application, an inaccessible PDF
opened in Adobe Reader, a currently selected image file in Windows Explorer, or
a document acquired by the PEARL camera or a flatbed scanner.
If Microsoft Office is installed on your system, you can now:
list of 2 items • Use the new command INSERT+SPACEBAR, O followed by R
to perform OCR on a selected image file in File Explorer or the Desktop and
place the recognized text directly into a Word document. You can also press
the APPLICATIONS key and choose Convenient OCR to Word with JAWS or Fusion from
the context menu. • Use the new Open in Word link that appears at the top of
the Results Viewer once the OCR process is complete. list end
For more information about using Convenient OCR, press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O
followed by QUESTION MARK or refer to the Convenient OCR topic in the JAWS
help.
New Voice Assistant to Help with Various JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion
Commands and Features
The new Voice Assistant provides a way to interact with JAWS, ZoomText, and
Fusion in Windows 10 using speech input. Supported languages include
English, Dutch, German, Spanish, and French. Ask it to help you out with
various JAWS or ZoomText features using natural speech. This means that the same
action can be performed by more than one similar phrase instead of a single
predefined voice command. For instance, to launch JAWS Settings Center, you
could say "Settings Center" or "change settings." Unlike keyboard shortcuts,
which can be hard to remember, natural voice commands are an easier way to
interact with the JAWS or ZoomText software. Using voice input to control
JAWS or ZoomText can also benefit users with certain conditions which prevent
them from using a keyboard effectively.
The JAWS Voice Assistant uses your computer's internal microphone or you
can talk to it using an external microphone or headset. To tell the Voice
Assistant to begin listening for a specific command, there are three
options:
list of 2 items • Press the key combination, INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR (CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR for ZoomText and Fusion). • Speak a specific wake word
which alerts to software to begin listening for a voice command, similar to
using an Alexa or Google Home device. The wake word is "Sharky" for JAWS and
"Zoomy" for ZoomText and Fusion. Speak this word followed by a specific JAWS or
ZoomText command, such as, "Sharky, list links," or "Zoomy, increase zoom
level." list end
Note: The wake word is not available if you are using a Bluetooth
microphone. In this case, you must use the keystroke before speaking the voice
command.
list of 1 items • From the JAWS main window, press ALT+U to open the
Utilities menu, expand the Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Talk to
JAWS. From the ZoomText or Fusion main window, select Talk to
ZoomText. list end
When the Voice Assistant starts listening for a voice command, a short
audio indicator plays, and a visual indicator is displayed. After hearing a
voice command, a different audio indicator plays until the command is
processed. After processing, the visual indicator is removed, a different,
short, audio indicator plays, and the desired JAWS or ZoomText action is
performed.
If the Voice Assistant does not hear anything, the message, "Sorry, I
didn’t hear anything" is spoken. If the Voice Assistant does not understand or
if the voice command is not supported, the message, "Sorry, I didn’t catch
that" is spoken.
Note: Since all voice recognition processing is performed over the Internet
using Microsoft Services in the cloud, there will be a slight delay
depending on your connection. Be patient and experiment with different
commands. This is a new technology being added to our software products and will
continue to change and evolve over time. We welcome your suggestions and
feedback.
To turn off the Voice Assistant or change other options, such as whether or
not JAWS or ZoomText listens for the wake word or to turn off the sounds,
do one of the following:
list of 2 items • For JAWS, open the JAWS Utilities menu, expand the
Voice Assistant submenu, and then select Settings. • For ZoomText or Fusion,
select the Tools tab, press DOWN ARROW on the Voice Assistant drop down button,
and select Settings. list end
To learn more and to view a full list of voice commands for specific
actions, say "Sharky, help," or "Zoomy, help." You can also select Getting
Started from the Voice Assistant menu.
Here are a few commands you can try to help you get started.
For JAWS (Remember to say "Sharky" or press INSERT+ALT+SPACEBAR before
speaking each command):
list of 10 items • Help • Talk faster • Talk slower • Change
settings • Command search • What time is it • OCR PDF • List
links • List headings • List spelling errors list end
For ZoomText or Fusion (Remember to say "Zoomy" or press CAPS
LOCK+ALT+SPACEBAR before speaking each command):
list of 10 items • Increase zoom level • Zoom out • Set zoom level
to 5 • Where is my focus • What time is it • Activate speech • Talk
faster • Open Reader app view • Launch finder • Change the color
enhancement scheme list end
Improved Microsoft Teams Support list of 6 items • If you press ENTER
on a document in the Files list which opens the inaccessible document viewer,
you can now press ESC to return to the files list. You are also prompted to
use the SHIFT+F10 context menu and open the document in the desktop application,
which is the suggested method. • You can now press ALT+1 through 5 to go
directly to the first five tab pages. • Pressing ALT+LEFT ARROW now
automatically activates the back button from anywhere in Teams. • You can now
press ALT+H to hang up a call in progress. • You can now press ALT+T to set
focus to the Teams tree view, if visible. Note that it is usually only visible
if CTRL+3 has been pressed to show the teams and channels list. The screen
should also be maximized to ensure this control is visible. • Pressing ALT+R
now raises or lowers your hand in a meeting. list end
Teams also allows you to show meetings and calls in separate windows with
fewer controls. To do this, press CTRL+COMMA to open Preferences and select
the check box labeled: "Turn on new meeting experience (New meetings and
calls will open in separate windows. Requires restarting Teams.)" While JAWS
specific keystrokes for meetings and calls will not work in this split mode,
Microsoft has their own set of keystrokes you can review by pressing
CTRL+PERIOD.
New Keystroke for Changing the Punctuation Level
You can now press INSERT+SHIFT+2 on the number row to cycle through the
four punctuation levels which controls how much punctuation JAWS and Fusion
speak while reading. The available levels are None, Some, Most, and All.
Similar to toggling Screen Echo (INSERT+S) or Typing Echo (INSERT+2), the
punctuation level will revert back to the previous setting when JAWS or
Fusion is restarted. To permanently set a punctuation level, use the JAWS
Startup Wizard or Settings Center.
Announce Most Recent Windows Notification
You can now perform the new layered command INSERT+SPACEBAR followed by N
to have JAWS repeat the last notification that was spoken. Notifications
include an incoming Teams or Skype call, a recent Zoom message, a new email
in Outlook, and more. If you use a Focus braille display, you can also press
RIGHT SHIFT+N (DOTS 1-3-4-5). To view and manage all your Windows
notifications, use the Microsoft keystroke WINDOWS Key+A.
FS Support Tool for Gathering System Information
The FS Support Tool is a new utility that collects information about your
computer and sends a report to our Technical Support and Software
Development teams to help us troubleshoot any issues you may be experiencing
while running JAWS, ZoomText, or Fusion. You will typically be asked to run this
utility during a technical support session if it is determined that
additional details about your system are needed. Some information that is
collected includes:
list of 9 items • System information such as processor, RAM, operating
system, architecture, and more • Event logs • Version of Adobe Reader (if
installed) • Versions of all installed web browsers • Information on
installed Microsoft Office applications • Crash dumps • Installation
logs • Currently running system processes • User settings list
end
The FS Support Tool can be started from the Help menu in JAWS, or the
Support menu in ZoomText or Fusion and guides you through collecting and
submitting a report.
Announce Accessible Notification Events
By default, JAWS now automatically announces Windows generated accessible
event notifications in both speech and braille. These types of
notifications are found in a variety of places including business bars in
Microsoft Office. If you do not want to hear these announcements, open Settings
Center and clear the Enable Accessible Notification Events check
box.
Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.
Go dodgers!
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Good points, I don’t have an all-in-one but most should offer twain drivers, which work better because they are simple and straight forward and do not require any other software.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:22 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner
Shirley,
If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires. I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work. My HP all in one printer cannot be set to
work with Kurzweil. I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers. This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers. Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother
scanner is already clued into this aspect. We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger
ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain. We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years. I once had a simple HP black
and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles.
Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!
I’ll let you know what I end up with.
Cheers,
Shirley Tracy
We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.
I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.
Joe
Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer
Dr.
Joe L. Todd CVRT
Phone: 616.951.2142
Good morning list,
My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and
don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.
Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up.
😒
Thanks for any help.
Shirley
Shirley Tracy
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Thanks for reminding me about the TWAIN drivers. Yes, Open Book requires them, as best I remember. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.ioSent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:22 AM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner Shirley, If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires. I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work. My HP all in one printer cannot be set to work with Kurzweil. I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers. This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers. Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother scanner is already clued into this aspect. We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain. We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years. I once had a simple HP black and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles. From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:12 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully! I’ll let you know what I end up with. Cheers, Shirley Tracy We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad. I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color. Joe Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT Phone: 616.951.2142 Good morning list, My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer. Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒 Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information. It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.
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Shirley,
If you want to use it for Open Book, you’ll want to be sure you know which drivers it uses and what OpenBook requires. I use Kurzweil 1000 and the scanner must run with TWAIN drivers to work. My HP all in one printer cannot be set to
work with Kurzweil. I have an Epson desktop scanner at work that has TWAIN drivers. This is food for thought, as I don’t know if Open Book also requires TWAIN drivers or if the scanner can have other drivers. Also, maybe the person who suggested the Brother
scanner is already clued into this aspect. We just bought an Epson all-in-one printer that looks pretty simple, but we havent’ set it up, so I cannot tell you how easy it is to use yet. The reason we picked this one, over staying with HP, is that it has larger
ink reservoirs that are supposed to e much cheaper to maintain. We bought it at Staples and also bought the warranty/support option so we can have telephone support of any setup or maintenance issues for the next 4 or 5 years. I once had a simple HP black
and white laser printer that I loved. If I were doing a lot of printing, I’d go that route again, but this new printer purchase is for the family and needed more bells and whistles.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shirley Tracy
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:12 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner
Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully!
I’ll let you know what I end up with.
Cheers,
Shirley Tracy
We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.
I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.
Joe
Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer
Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT
Phone: 616.951.2142
Good morning list,
My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and
don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.
Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up.
😒
Thanks for any help.
Shirley
Shirley Tracy
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Thank you, Joe and Richard, for responding. I’ll consider your ideas. I do have sighted help to set it up—thankfully! I’ll let you know what I end up with. Cheers, Shirley Tracy
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From: Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:52 AM To: main@jfw.groups.ioSubject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad. I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color. Joe Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT Phone: 616.951.2142 Good morning list, My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer. Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒 Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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We like the Brother brand of printers and some are all in ones, that are also WiFi enabled and even AirPrint enabled if you have an iPhone or iPad.
I don’t have a specific model to recommend, just know you will likely need sighted help to set it up.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Joe
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:49 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Need help choosing printer/scanner
I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color.
Joe
Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer
Dr. Joe L. Todd
CVRT
Phone: 616.951.2142
Good morning list,
My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and
don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer.
Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up.
😒
Thanks for any help.
Shirley
Shirley Tracy
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I think that the safe mode feature did a registry hack to get the sound driver into safe mode, so maybe you could find that hack and and maybe Jaws would work in safe mode after all. On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 10:05:45 -0400, Richard Turner wrote: [1 <text/plain; utf-8 (base64)>] Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features. The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via groups.io Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote: Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers. Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro. It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes. I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared. They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program. I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice. But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io><mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shan Noyes Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner via groups.io Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:26 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe. -------------------------------------------------------------- Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Dan Longmore Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:20 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Randy Barnett <blindmansbluff09@gmail.com<mailto:blindmansbluff09@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows… Randy Barnett
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io<mailto:jimweiss72=icloud.com@groups.io>> wrote: Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@wi.rr.com<mailto:kman2020@wi.rr.com>> wrote: Hello, Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them. Thanks, Kevin
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I would suggest that you purchase a laser printer. Unlike an ink jet the nozzles do not clog since it uses a different Process. A black and white model costs about as much as an ink jet if you do not need color. Joe Picture of Owl with Mortar Board and Computer Dr. Joe L. Todd CVRT Phone: 616.951.2142
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shirley Tracy Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:59 AM To: main@jfw.groups.io Subject: Need help choosing printer/scanner Good morning list, My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer. Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒 Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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Sadly, they never followed through with incorporating those features. The Safe Mode speech with Window-Eyes worked quite well.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gerald Levy via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
And exactly which wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature actually
worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella
group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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WARNING, this email originated from outside of SaskTel.
Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Need help choosing printer/scanner
Good morning list, My printer has finally given up. Can anyone please give me a suggestion of an easy-to-use printer and scanner that works well with JAWS? I also need one that will work well with Open Book—although I don’t normally scan large batches and don’t need one that has that ability. I’m using a DEL Computer with JAWS 2020, latest update, and Windows 10. My computer doesn’t have BlueTooth, so I don’t need that in a printer. Thankfully, I know someone who is willing to install it for me. I do well to use it, much less understand how it works or how to set it up. 😒 Thanks for any help. Shirley Shirley Tracy
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Re: Using icloud.com
And exactly which
wonderful features of Window Eyes have been incorporated into
JAWS? For instance, Window Eyes allegedly had a feature that
provided speech when booting into safe mode. If this feature
actually worked, which isdebatable, then why hasn't it been
incorporated into JAWS?
Gerald
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On 9/10/2020 9:44 AM, Richard Turner
wrote:
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after
Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over
place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the
makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned
Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes
staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as
part of the umbrella group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of
following through with that, they pulled the plug on
Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and
they ended up having to give some severance packages to people
formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in
favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than
NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have
little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for
speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room,
I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that
cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must
pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the
cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable
that while I have regretted not granting grace to others,
I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom
Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted
to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes
murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the
Window-eyes vendor. Anyways, its expensive to run 2
development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop
development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in
Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who
use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Just because I was primarily a
Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was
Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then
the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that
cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he
must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can
break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is
notable that while I have regretted not granting grace
to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
Edward Herbert
It has a lot
to do with them wanting you to use their products on their
platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the
same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of
the market.
Yes,
but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I
can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on
the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes
for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io
<jimweiss72@...>
wrote:
Yes,
I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and
I use Safari.
On
Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...>
wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To
me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has
pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot
access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Using icloud.com
Actually, Freedom Scientific was after Window-eyes for years even filing a frivolous law suit over place markers.
Window-eyes merged with AI Squared, the makers of zoomText, and then The conglomerate that owned Freedom Scientific bought AI Squared and told the Window-eyes staff/AI Squared that they would continue to be developed as part of the umbrella
group which became Vespiro.
It did not take long before instead of following through with that, they pulled the plug on Window-eyes.
I know, personally, some of the people, and they ended up having to give some severance packages to people formerly of Window-Eyes/AI Squared.
They did dump their own Magic program in favor of ZoomText which is now part of the Fusion program.
I use Jaws because it is still better than NVDA or Narrator and because they killed Window-Eyes so I have little choice.
But, before I get kicked off this list for speaking the truth about the 800 pound gorilla in the room, I’ll shut up about this.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Shan Noyes
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 6:34 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Using icloud.com
Sorry I saw the comment about Freedom Scientific pushing Windows-eyes out of the market. But wanted to point out that Freedom and the vendor of Window-eyes murged. Which is kind of like saying Freedom purchased the Window-eyes vendor.
Anyways, its expensive to run 2 development groups and so after a year or so Freedom stop development on Window-eyes, but many of the ideas in Window-eyes are being incorporated into Jaws.
Not to mention a lot of the developers who use to work on Window-eyes are now working on Jaws.
Have a good day everyone.
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Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender and believe the contents are safe.
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Just because I was primarily a Window-Eyes user before this happened, the program name was Window-Eyes, which is the word Window then a hyphen and then the word Eyes.
Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted
not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert
It has a lot to do with them wanting you to use their products on their platforms. It’s sad but it’s across-the-board kind of the same way that Freedom Scientific pushed window wise out of the market.
Yes, but for us Windows users it is not much fun at all. I can't understand why Apple does such an awesome job on the iPhone has such a crappy job on iCloud and iTunes for windows…
On Sep 9, 2020, at 4:33 PM, Jim Weiss via groups.io <jimweiss72@...> wrote:
Yes, I use it all the time. I will say I am a Mac user, and I use Safari.
On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:15 PM, kevin meyers <kman2020@...> wrote:
Hello,
Has anyone used icloud.com? To me it doesn’t seem to friendly. I know it has pictures and videos from my IPhone. I just cannot access them.
Thanks,
Kevin
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Re: Describing the contents of a region?
Mark, if not already responded, the keystroke is insert+f1. hope this is what you're looking for.
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-------- Original Message -------- From: Mark [mailto:mweiler@alumni.sfu.ca] To: main@jfw.groups.io Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 7:41 PM Subject: Describing the contents of a region? Is there a command or script that would make JAWS describe the contents of a region? For example, it might say that the main region has 3 headings, 4 lists, 10 links, and so on. It could save time from figuring it out more manually.
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