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Re: wireless network

Jason White
 

Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@gmail.com> wrote:

Nothing that comes to mind. Although besides alt f4 for shutting down there
is the windows key plus x menu which has programs and features network
command prompt and other things.
I discovered this yesterday. I also found out that there's an option in the
settings to use PowerShell as your command prompt in this menu, instead of
running the old DOS-style command interpreter. In addition, this menu offers
an option to run the command prompt as administrator, which is very
convenient.


Re: Downloading and installing Vocalizer Expressive voices.

Jason White
 

Shane clark <hshaneclark@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks very much for the explanation, I was able to do the install. For
some reason, I was having trouble finding the dialog box which asked me to
either save or run the file. Butt after a few more attempts, I was able to
get it going.

Which browser is set as your default? Make sure it is not Microsoft Edge,
which won't be very accessible at least until the next major Windows 10
update.

are there any other new things I need to know about with the new features
in Jaws 17 and Windows 10?

The desktop and the start menu will be different from whatever you've
experienced in older versions of Windows. There is a new settings application
for configuring your system (new, at least, since Windows 7, which is my point
of comparison). There are other major and minor differences - it all depends
on what you've used previously.

The Windows 7 system at work only arrived this week, so I'm also new to it.


Re: wireless network

Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@...>
 

Hi,

Nothing that comes to mind. Although besides alt f4 for shutting down there is the windows key plus x menu which has programs and features network command prompt and other things.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kristoffer Gustafsson
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:30 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless network

Hi.
thanks, that solved a lot of my problems.
I fixed the system tray a while ago, but I didn't get everything there i wanted, but now I have this in other place.
is thre any other shortcuts for some tasks you think I need to know?
/Kristoffer


2016-05-12 15:52 GMT+02:00, Mike and Jenna <schwaltze@gmail.com>:
Hi,

If you do a windows b then arrow over to connections are avaible then
just hit enter on it. It will bring up the list then to the connection
you want hit enter, and tab again to connect. When it asks for the key
type it in and hit enter.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2016 11:06 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: wireless network

Hi.
I just want to connect to my wireless network so I can use internet on
the computer.
/Kristoffer

2016-05-09 16:50 GMT+02:00, Kristoffer Gustafsson
<kg.kristoffer@gmail.com>:
Hi.
I'm lookinng at windows 10.
how do I connect to a wireless network. I can't find anything about that.
/Kristoffer

--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934




--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934







--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
tel:033-12 60 93
mobil: 0730-500934


Re: Downloading and installing Vocalizer Expressive voices.

Soronel Haetir
 

An easy way to restart jaws is to hit jaws+windows+f4.

That has worked for many years now.

On 5/12/16, Shane clark <hshaneclark@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jason,
Thanks very much for the explanation, I was able to do the install. For
some reason, I was having trouble finding the dialog box which asked me to
either save or run the file. Butt after a few more attempts, I was able to
get it going.
When it ask me to restart Jaws, I did an alt f4, butt when starting the
computer back up, I had trouble getting speech to come back on. So I had to
get my wife to help me with this. Should I have quit Jaws in some other
way? I'm going to be taking a refresher course in Jaws in the next few
weeks starting on Tuesday. I still remember a good bit about how to
navigate with it, but haven't worked with Windows 10 before. The commission
for the blind, just delivered the computer yesterday, so I'm just wondering
are there any other new things I need to know about with the new features
in Jaws 17 and Windows 10?
Thanks, Shane.

On Thu, May 12, 2016, 12:23 PM Jason White via Groups.io <jason=
jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

Shane clark <hshaneclark@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm currently running Jaws Professional 17.0.2007. I went to the page
to
download the vocalizer voices, but I'm not sure where to find them 2
install them. I clicked on the link, butt I'm not able to go any
further
from here.

If you're on the correct page, you'll find two combo boxes, one to select
the
voices (you want Vocalizer Expressive) and another to choose the
language.
Once you've done this, you should be able to navigate through the page to
find
the download links. The next step is to download the installer, run it,
and
follow the prompts to complete the installation. Finally, restart JAWS
and
select the new voice in your voice profile.

I hope something in the above explanation helps you to move beyond
whatever
the problem might be.




--
Soronel Haetir
soronel.haetir@gmail.com


Re: track changes Word 2016

"Kevin Hourigan " <kevinthourigan@...>
 

Hello Maryann,

I stumbled across this post from the Jaws list in my notes, and accept neither credit nor blame for its content. My apologies to its author for the lack of recognition.

Cheers Kevin.

Track Changes

In  a document with tracked changes, you can choose whether to have all the changes visible on screen, or to hide them. Sounds like your document has them on screen and you want to hide them.

You need to go to the Review tab and in the tracking group, change the setting for the "display for review" combo box from "show markup" to "final". 

There are a number of ways you can get to this option. Here are two: 

If you're not using the virtual ribbon, you can press Alt, R, TD, and Down-arrow to Final and press Enter.

If you are using the virtual ribbon, you could use Alt, R, R, Enter, T, Down-arrow, and Enter

 

I assigned the "Next" and "Previous" commands to the quick access

toolbar. That way, when I want to go forward I use Alt plus 4, 

and if I want to go backwards, I use Alt plus 3. That way, I move

by revision. It is at least fast. I thought you said you were in Word 2010. When I checked the key sequence, I found that Alt followed by r and then f moves back a change and Alt followed by r and then h moves forward to the next change. (I had to check since I assigned these keys so long ago that I forgot them.)  Actually, that key sequence does not has semantic significance at first blush, but "r" does relate to "revisions," though it actually stands for "review" in the Microsoft world, and f is to the left (going backwards on a line) and h is to the right (going forward on a line. So, it isn't impossible to remember. To assign a key sequence to the quick access toolbar, just hit alt and then r. be sure to hit tab next. Then, hit right arrow until you come to the end of the comment section. The track change sequence of ribbon commands                       should come next. Then use the tab                                       key (otherwise, you will skip over some of the commands). You will come to a series of 4 ribbon commands. The first is previous revision, then comes accept and move to next. Then follows reject and move on. Finally you come simply to next revision.  Once you have landed on the option you want, JAWS should announce the key sequence to get there faster. Confirm that the key sequences I gave you (above) are correct. Again, once there, hit the applications key and choose to put the command you want on the quick access toolbar. You should do previous first. That should assign it a lower numbered hotkey (like my Alt plus 3 for previous). Then assign your next revision key to the quick access toolbar (or QAT). That should give you a  higher number, e.g., Alt plus 4. Of course, your numbers will depend upon what you already have on the QAT. Out of the box,  Word has some utterly worthless commands (commands where other shortcut keys are faster). Get rid of those, and put useful ones on the QAT. Of course, Alt plus r and then f and Alt plus r and then h isn't really all that bad. The only unfortunate thing is that "f" gets associated in my mind with "forward," when it is really backward. As for comments, the same principles apply. JAWS, however, in my experience, does a lousy job with comments. Once inside them, it is nearly impossible to get out and not land somewhere entirely unexpected.  Using the Windows plus semicolon is about as good as any. Find the comment you want that way and then tab to OK. Press ENTER and  you'll be in the document (right in front of the comment. If, in your verbosity menu, you have turned on the reading of comments,  as your cursor passes over the comment, you will hear it. If you ever get inside a comment and want to get out, may God have mercy on you? The only way I've found to get out of a comment halfway gracefully is to make sure you are in "draft" before you start the adventure. If you are in "Print," you may have to closedown Word to get out. If you are in "Draft," escape will get you out, but you may be thrown to the top of the document. Also, you know JAWSKEY plus z allows you to use navigation keys. In a small document, those work OK. In a big document, not so much. Hope this helps. As I mentioned in a recent post DO NOT depend on JAWS commands to tell you the color of the track changes. JAWS,  especially JAWS 16, is hopelessly unreliable.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marianne Denning
Sent: May 12, 2016 6:03 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: track changes Word 2016

 

I have office 365 on my computer.  I tried to put in track changes using ctrl shift E but my words went into the document instead of into track changes.  Did track changes switch commands or did I use the wrong command?


--

Marianne Denning, TVI, MA

Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired

(513) 607-6053


Re: Open office

Maria Campbell
 

I'm only using Open Office for the word processor.

On 5/12/2016 8:23 PM, Carolyn Arnold wrote:
I wish I'd have known about Open Office before spending the money I did for Office 2013, because I could have downloaded an e-mail client.

Bye for now,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Open office

Hi,
I use Open Office with JAWS, and it is as good and accessible with JAWS, for what I want to do, as MS Office since I am not in school anymore LOL!
From: Stephanie Switzer <mailto:emmanrusty@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Open office
Also Google results say that it is now accessible for screen readers. I'm assuming that includes jaws. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> > wrote:



It's been repeatedly stated on this particular forum that Open Office is accessible via JAWS. I can't say how "fully" qualifies as "fully" to any given user, but there are lots of folks here who are using Open Office as their suite of choice.



Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson





Re: Open office

Carolyn Arnold <4carolyna@...>
 

I wish I'd have known about Open Office before spending the money I did for Office 2013, because I could have downloaded an e-mail client.

Bye for now,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 6:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Open office

Hi,
I use Open Office with JAWS, and it is as good and accessible with JAWS, for what I want to do, as MS Office since I am not in school anymore LOL!


From: Stephanie Switzer <mailto:emmanrusty@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Open office

Also Google results say that it is now accessible for screen readers. I'm assuming that includes jaws. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com> > wrote:



It's been repeatedly stated on this particular forum that Open Office is accessible via JAWS. I can't say how "fully" qualifies as "fully" to any given user, but there are lots of folks here who are using Open Office as their suite of choice.



Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
~ Poul Anderson


Re: JAWS startup after logging in under Windows 10

Chris Chaffin
 

This is exactly what started happening to me at my work on a Windows 7 machine.
The only way I was able to get Jaws to start after logging in was to put the executable file in the startup folder as suggested.

Chris

On May 12, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi there! I can tell you how I have gotten around this. If it is a work
policy, the network admins would have to make changes. Your best bet would
be to add the JAWS executeable to the start-up folder in windows. Here is
how to do this:
1. Go to your Desktop, and copy the JAWS Icon to your clipboard.
2. Go to the Windows Run dialog, by pressing Windows plus the letter R.
3. In the run dialogue box, type the following minus the quotes:
"Shell:Startup"
4. Paste the JAWS shortcut into the folder.
5. Restart your computer, and see if JAWS will start then.
Good luck!


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason
White via Groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 11:19 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS startup after logging in under Windows 10

Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi! Just wondering if this is a work computer? Sometimes, group
policies block JAWS from starting like it should. This may be happening
here.

It's a work computer. I have administrative access to it, but the account
I'm logging in from is a domain account (I assume it's Microsoft Active
Directory).

Is there a way to find out whether account policies might be responsible? I
can certainly change settings on the local machine, but, obviously, not on
the server.








Re: Downloading and installing Vocalizer Expressive voices.

Shane clark
 

Hi Jason,
Thanks very much for the explanation, I was able to do the install. For some reason, I was having trouble finding the dialog box which asked me to either save or run the file. Butt after a few more attempts, I was able to get it going.
When it ask me to restart Jaws, I did an alt f4, butt when starting the computer back up, I had trouble getting speech to come back on. So I had to get my wife to help me with this. Should I have quit Jaws in some other way? I'm going to be taking a refresher course in Jaws in the next few weeks starting on Tuesday. I still remember a good bit about how to navigate with it, but haven't worked with Windows 10 before. The commission for the blind, just delivered the computer yesterday, so I'm just wondering are there any other new things I need to know about with the new features in Jaws 17 and Windows 10?
Thanks, Shane.


On Thu, May 12, 2016, 12:23 PM Jason White via Groups.io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:
Shane clark <hshaneclark@...> wrote:
> I'm currently running Jaws Professional 17.0.2007. I went to the page to
> download the vocalizer voices, but I'm not sure where to find them 2
> install them. I clicked on the link, butt I'm not able to go any further
> from here.


If you're on the correct page, you'll find two combo boxes, one to select the
voices (you want Vocalizer Expressive) and another to choose the language.
Once you've done this, you should be able to navigate through the page to find
the download links. The next step is to download the installer, run it, and
follow the prompts to complete the installation. Finally, restart JAWS and
select the new voice in your voice profile.

I hope something in the above explanation helps you to move beyond whatever
the problem might be.





Re: mouse pad and jaws

David Moore
 

Hi Mark,
With JAWS, nothing will be spoken when you trace around the touch pad. With Narrator, If you press Caps Lock+num Lock, you will toggel the function. You can hear what is spoken under your finger as you trace the touch pad if you turn that on in Narrator, and you can turn it back off with the same command. With NVDA, you get a lot of information when you trace your finger around the touch pad. Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Furness
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: mouse pad and jaws

I am looking at an Asus laptop.
When I put on narrator and dragged my finger around nothing was spoken.
Will jaws 17 work the same way or should it speak what ever is invoked?

Thank you for all your help.

Mark


Re: Open office

David Moore
 

Hi,
I use Open Office with JAWS, and it is as good and accessible with JAWS, for what I want to do, as MS Office since I am not in school anymore LOL!
 
 

Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Open office
 
Also Google results say that it is now accessible for screen readers. I'm assuming that includes jaws. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

It's been repeatedly stated on this particular forum that Open Office is accessible via JAWS.  I can't say how "fully" qualifies as "fully" to any given user, but there are lots of folks here who are using Open Office as their suite of choice.

 

Brian
--
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     Poul Anderson


Re: JAWS startup after logging in under Windows 10

Jason White
 

Michael Mote <miketmote73@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there! I can tell you how I have gotten around this. If it is a work
policy, the network admins would have to make changes. Your best bet would
be to add the JAWS executeable to the start-up folder in windows.

Thanks for the detailed suggestion. I'll try it during the next few days.


Re: Open office

Stephanie Switzer
 

Also Google results say that it is now accessible for screen readers. I'm assuming that includes jaws. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

It's been repeatedly stated on this particular forum that Open Office is accessible via JAWS.  I can't say how "fully" qualifies as "fully" to any given user, but there are lots of folks here who are using Open Office as their suite of choice.


Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: Open office

 

It's been repeatedly stated on this particular forum that Open Office is accessible via JAWS.  I can't say how "fully" qualifies as "fully" to any given user, but there are lots of folks here who are using Open Office as their suite of choice.


Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: Open office

Stephanie Switzer
 

I honestly have no idea because I don't have Jaws on any of my machines anymore.
Sorry i can't help
Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2016, at 11:41 AM, John Gurd <j.gurd@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Is the whole thing fully accessible to JFW users?

John


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephanie
Switzer
Sent: 10 May 2016 20:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Open office

Yes they just changed it's name is all. I think the official website is
openoffice.org if that helps you. I'm not near a computer so I can't
doublecheck that. So you might want to check it out for yourself.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com> wrote:

When I went looking for open office I found Apache open office. Is that
the same thing?
Don't want any bugs in my new laptop.



On 5/10/2016 2:58 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Yea!
Thanks.



On 5/10/2016 2:45 PM, Stephanie Switzer wrote:
No open office uses menus.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Maria Campbell <lucky1inct@gmail.com>
wrote:

Does open office use ribbons?

Maria Campbell

lucky1inct@gmail.com





Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

James Homuth
 

You need to be actually looking at the contents of your second account before you can delete your first one. Deleting your first account will not be an option as long as your first account is the one Outlook considers active.


From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lauren Snyder
Sent: May-12-16 3:11 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

Hi Brian:

 

I have 2 accounts. I can read them with Jaws when Outlook first opens in the tree view. However, when I go to account settings, the account I wish to delete, which may have been my first one created, does not appear.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

 

Lauren,

             I suspect that this is the account whose inbox is currently open.  You cannot delete any account when any one of its folders is the one that has active focus.  If you have only one account, this means that you cannot delete it until you have created a second account and have focus on that account in the tree view of messages before trying to delete the first one.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

Lauren Snyder
 

Hi Brian:

 

I have 2 accounts. I can read them with Jaws when Outlook first opens in the tree view. However, when I go to account settings, the account I wish to delete, which may have been my first one created, does not appear.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

 

Lauren,

             I suspect that this is the account whose inbox is currently open.  You cannot delete any account when any one of its folders is the one that has active focus.  If you have only one account, this means that you cannot delete it until you have created a second account and have focus on that account in the tree view of messages before trying to delete the first one.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Re: Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

 

Lauren,

             I suspect that this is the account whose inbox is currently open.  You cannot delete any account when any one of its folders is the one that has active focus.  If you have only one account, this means that you cannot delete it until you have created a second account and have focus on that account in the tree view of messages before trying to delete the first one.

Brian
-- 
I have yet to see any problem, however complicated, which, when looked at in the right way, did not become still more complicated.
     ~  Poul Anderson


Deleting an account in Outlook 2013

Lauren Snyder
 

Hi:

 

I am using Outlook 2013 with Windows 10. When I open Outlook, I can see an account I want to delete. However, when I go to account settings, it does not appear. How can I delete this account?

Sincerely,

 

Lauren


mouse pad and jaws

Mark Furness
 

I am looking at an Asus laptop.
When I put on narrator and dragged my finger around nothing was spoken.
Will jaws 17 work the same way or should it speak what ever is invoked?

Thank you for all your help.

Mark